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Banjer 25 Mar 01 - 09:23 AM
Sorcha 25 Mar 01 - 03:39 PM
Banjer 25 Mar 01 - 04:54 PM
Jim Dixon 06 Jun 02 - 09:05 PM
Banjer 07 Jun 02 - 06:01 AM
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Subject: Ms. Lucretia(?) Wainwright and the BC
From: Banjer
Date: 25 Mar 01 - 09:23 AM

I am not sure of the lady's name in this song. It is a story about a refined lady who is wanting to attend her first outdoor music festival and writes to inquire about the rest room accomodations. Being a refined lady she cannot bring herself to write the words restroom so she abbreviates them to BC. The respondent to her inquiry thinks she is talking about the Baptist Church and gives her a lengthy description about how many it will seat and offers to sit next to her the first time she attends to make her feel at home. I can't remmeber the artist doing it. Does anybody know of this song....??

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ms. Lucretia(?) Wainwright and the B
From: Sorcha
Date: 25 Mar 01 - 03:39 PM

No luck with what you've given, banj. Remember anything else at all?

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ms. Lucretia(?) Wainwright and the B
From: Banjer
Date: 25 Mar 01 - 04:54 PM

Unfortunately no....I can't recall anything else. It was played by a local PBS radio DJ, Netta Jean on her Bluegrass Show, that's the only place I've ever heard it. She has moved from the area and of course those left at the station know little if anything about folk, bluegrass, or oldtime music. If it isn't rap, hiphop, or metallica they aren't aware it exists!

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ms. Lucretia(?) Wainwright and the B
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 06 Jun 02 - 09:05 PM

I didn't know it was a song, but I have heard it as a story. Here's one version, copied from
    One day an English Lady was looking for a room in Switzerland. She asked the local schoolmaster if he could recommend anything she might like. She finally decided on a quaint little apartment and returned to the Hotel at which she had been staying. When she got back she suddenly remembered she had not seen a Water Closet (commonly known in America as a bathroom). She immediately wrote back to the schoolmaster asking him if the apartment had a W.C. The schoolmaster upon receiving the letter did not understand the meaning of the abbreviation, W.C. He took it to the local priest to see if he knew the meaning, and they finally decided it must stand for Wayside Chapel. This is how the schoolmaster answered the letter.

    Dear Madam:

    I am happy to inform you that we do have a W.C. It is located nine miles from the house in a beautiful garden surrounded by a grove of pine trees. It seats 300 people, and is open Monday, Wednesdays and Sundays, which is not real handy if you are in the habit of going regularly.

    My dearest ladyship, I suggest you go on Wednesdays for there is an organ accompaniment and even the most delicate sound is audible. The W.C. is very busy during the summer months, so I suggest you go early and get a seat even though there is plenty of standing room. Some families come with packed lunches and make a day of it.

    I am proud to say my daughter was married in the W.C. It was there she met her husband for the first time. I remember the rush for seats that day. There were ten people in the seat I usually occupy, and it was very uncomfortable. We have been planning a bazaar, and the proceeds are to go toward the purchase of plush seats, even though they are not needed. We recently had a bell erected on our W.C. which rings every time someone enters. My wife is a very delicate woman and cannot get to the W. C. very often. It has been six months since she last went, and it hurts her very much to go.

    Well, I must say good-bye for now, and if you are still interested, I shall be happy to save you a seat next to mine.

    The Schoolmaster

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ms. Lucretia(?) Wainwright and the B
From: Banjer
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 06:01 AM

I forgot about this thread but yes, Jim, that is the basic idea of the song about Lucretia Wainwright. Similar words set to music. I am still looking for that one on and off to add to the collection. Does Jim's post jog any memories? Thanks, Jim!!

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ms. Lucretia(?) Wainwright and the B
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 01:02 PM

The story I copied has one flaw that I can see. It's set in Switzerland, where people supposedly don't know what a WC is. I'd bet practically everyone in Europe knows what a WC is. It is the favored term used on signs in airports and other places where there are lots of international travelers, because it's so widely recognized.

WC is said to be a British term, and I suppose the Brits must have invented it, but they don't use it among themselves. Their signs in public places—pubs, for instance—usually say "Toilets" or perhaps "Ladies" and "Gents"—except, as I said, in places like airports.

The story would be more plausible, I think, if you had, say, a Swiss tourist visiting America, where people mostly DON'T know what a WC is. But it's precisely because Americans are unfamiliar with "WC" that variants of the story have arisen here in which "BC" is used. How in the heck does BC stand for "toilet" anyway?

And to be realistic, the story should say the woman was using the term WC because she assumed it would be recognized, and because she was trying to accommodate the AMERICAN tendency to use euphemisms. WE'RE the ones who invented terms like "bathroom" (when you don't go there to take a bath) and "restroom" (ditto for "rest").

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ms. Lucretia(?) Wainwright and the B
From: Banjer
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:35 AM

and "restroom" (ditto for "rest").

Don't you recall the line from Billy Ed Wheeler's 'Ode To The Little Brown Shack Out Back'?
'Them I'd sit me down to rest like a snowbird on his nest and read the Sears and Roebuck Catalog'

I think the term BC was her acronym for Bathroom Conviences. (I could and quite probably am mistaken)

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