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Most ... Dylan song - your vote!

Little Hawk 04 Feb 01 - 12:09 PM
Amos 04 Feb 01 - 02:14 PM
Little Hawk 04 Feb 01 - 02:54 PM
poor lonesome boy 04 Feb 01 - 04:04 PM
GUEST,khandu 04 Feb 01 - 07:59 PM
rube1 04 Feb 01 - 08:07 PM
rube1 04 Feb 01 - 08:27 PM
poor lonesome boy 04 Feb 01 - 08:29 PM
Bill D 04 Feb 01 - 10:14 PM
wdyat12 05 Feb 01 - 12:06 AM
Little Hawk 05 Feb 01 - 09:46 AM
Grab 05 Feb 01 - 10:18 AM
Steve Latimer 05 Feb 01 - 10:44 AM
cowboypoet 05 Feb 01 - 10:55 AM
GUEST,Matt_R 05 Feb 01 - 12:24 PM
GUEST,Rikki 05 Feb 01 - 12:30 PM
catspaw49 05 Feb 01 - 02:54 PM
Little Hawk 05 Feb 01 - 04:47 PM
Steve Latimer 05 Feb 01 - 05:11 PM
GUEST,khandu 05 Feb 01 - 07:19 PM
Matt_R 05 Feb 01 - 07:29 PM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 05 Feb 01 - 07:39 PM
catspaw49 05 Feb 01 - 08:05 PM
DancingMom 05 Feb 01 - 08:06 PM
hesperis 06 Feb 01 - 02:26 AM
Little Hawk 06 Feb 01 - 02:29 AM
wdyat12 06 Feb 01 - 03:01 AM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 06 Feb 01 - 08:05 AM
catspaw49 06 Feb 01 - 08:33 AM
GUEST,Matt_R 06 Feb 01 - 02:04 PM
Lonesome EJ 06 Feb 01 - 03:00 PM
Superdad 06 Feb 01 - 03:10 PM
GUEST,jaze 06 Feb 01 - 03:24 PM
Peter T. 06 Feb 01 - 04:37 PM
catspaw49 06 Feb 01 - 05:50 PM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 06 Feb 01 - 06:46 PM
GUEST 06 Feb 01 - 08:01 PM
Little Hawk 06 Feb 01 - 08:11 PM
GUEST,jaze 06 Feb 01 - 08:27 PM
Matt_R 06 Feb 01 - 08:37 PM
catspaw49 06 Feb 01 - 09:18 PM
catspaw49 06 Feb 01 - 09:22 PM
jaze 06 Feb 01 - 11:55 PM
jaze 06 Feb 01 - 11:55 PM
catspaw49 07 Feb 01 - 12:21 AM
GUEST,pata del gato 07 Feb 01 - 12:56 AM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 07 Feb 01 - 08:06 AM
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Subject: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 12:09 PM

A subject dear to my heart! All y' gotta do is pick out of Dylan's almost endless catalog the following:

1. Most ANGRY Dylan song:

2. Most sarcastic Dylan song:

3. Most ribald Dylan song:

4. Most mystical Dylan song:

5. Most humorous Dylan song:

6. Longest Dylan song:

7. Shortest Dylan song:

8. Most brilliant Dylan lyric:

9. Worst Dylan song of all time:

10. Best Dylan love song:

11. Most memorable Dylan song:

12. Happiest Dylan song:

13. Least comprehensible Dylan song:

NO COVER TUNES, PLEASE! These have gotta be originals. Trad songs can sometimes be included, however, if he changed them enough...which he often does.

I know what you're saying...WHO CARES!!!!

Well, if that's how you feel, then be like the 50% who didn't vote in your last election...and bitch about the results afterward! Actually, this is at least as significant an exercise as your last election on a number of levels, so git out thar and vote! Yeee-hah!

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Amos
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 02:14 PM

Most obscure: Where Have You Been (Hard Rain's Gonna Fall). Most enduring: Girl of the North Country Most rockin': Subterranean Homesick Blues Most aesthetic love song: Love Minus Zero/No Limit or perhaps Ramona

Whaddya MEAN you don't agree!!! It's OBVIOUS!! :>)

A


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 02:54 PM

Well, that's a reasonable start...I like your picks for the love songs, particularly.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: poor lonesome boy
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 04:04 PM

funniest has got to be Talking Bear Mountain Picnic Blues. I plug it into the tape deck every now and then and it never loses its humour. ... or Master of War for those with a more, um, refined sense of humour


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,khandu
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 07:59 PM

You left out "Most Drunken"; gotta be "All I Really Wanna Do".

1. Most ANGRY Dylan song: Idiot Wind

2. Most sarcastic Dylan song: Postively 4th Street

3. Most ribald Dylan song: Dirty World (Traveling Wilburys)

4. Most mystical Dylan song: Man in the long black coat

5. Most humorous Dylan song: Handy Dandy

6. Longest Dylan song: I guess "Sad Eyed Lady"

7. Shortest Dylan song: hell if I know

8. Most brilliant Dylan lyric: Ah,if there's an original thought out there, I sure could use one now" Brownsville Girl

9. Worst Dylan song of all time: Don't know the name, nor if he wrote it. "Baby can I walk your Dog from "The Last Waltz"

10. Best Dylan love song: I Believe in You / I threw it all away

11. Most memorable Dylan song: When He Returns

12. Happiest Dylan song:Tonight, I'll be staying here with you

13. Least comprehensible Dylan song: Unbelievable


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: rube1
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 08:07 PM

most ribald: vd blues-on bootleg lp longest: Sad eyed lady of the lowlands-no question most sarcastic: Can you please crawl out your window happiest: jokerman

most obscure: ballad of omie wise


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: rube1
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 08:27 PM

khandu, good choices. #9 is Baby Can I Follow You Down (from Last Waltz)


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: poor lonesome boy
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 08:29 PM

here's a shortest one fer ya:

Hava Nagila Blues (did I spell that right?).. it lasts about 30 seconds from Dylan's bootleg package


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 10:14 PM

you missed one category..."Cutest song about Dylan

thank you, Eric Bogle

(now, I DO like "The Times They Are a'Changin", "Hattie Carrol" and "It's Alright, Ma" ...moving songs all....


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: wdyat12
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 12:06 AM

The Dylan song I listened to most while getting divorced (and still do) was and is "Positively 4TH Street." "You gotta lotta nerve"...Sweetie! wdyat12


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 09:46 AM

Well, the lawyers don't help, do they?

Khandu - You know your stuff! Good choices!

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Grab
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 10:18 AM

Least comprehensible - boy, there's some competition for that one! Where do you start?!

Grab.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 10:44 AM

Pretty good choices all. My vote for funniest is "I Shall Be Free" from Freewheelin'.

Love Song, "Forever Young"


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: cowboypoet
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 10:55 AM

Never was much of a Dylan fan (gasp!) but every time I hear "My Back Pages" I see myself in college, so serious about everything and so angry about so much. "Ah, but I was so much older then -- I'm younger than that now."

So what does that make the song for me, Dylan's most embarrassing?


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 12:24 PM

1. Most ANGRY Dylan song: Idiot Wind
2. Most sarcastic Dylan song: Ballad of a Thin Man
3. Most ribald Dylan song: ?
4. Most mystical Dylan song: Golden Loom
5. Most humorous Dylan song: Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat
6. Longest Dylan song: Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands
7. Shortest Dylan song: Suze
8. Most brilliant Dylan lyric:
"And I said 'Oh I did not know that!
Cuz the only one I met
First he smoked my eyelid
Then he punched my cigarette'"

9. Worst Dylan song of all time: Sad Eyed Lady of The Lowlands
10. Best Dylan love song: The Wedding Song
11. Most memorable Dylan song: Lily, Rosemary, And the Jack of Heart...this one stayed with me for weeks
12. Happiest Dylan song: Down Along The Cove?

13. Least comprehensible Dylan song: anything on Highway 61 Revisited


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Rikki
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 12:30 PM

It's hard to pick 'the most' anything where Dylan is concerned. I love it all. The one that is in my heart the most is 'Love Minus Zero, No Limit'. It has a very special meaning for me. Rikki


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 02:54 PM

Khandu, you really are making me eat my words on Mississippi aren't you? Got some fine choices there!!!

I thought Jet Pilot was the shortest, but I haven't timed it or checked.

Idiot Wind hits a lot of those categories for me as its angry, sarcastic, even a bit of a song of unrequited love..........

Forever Young ties with Love Minus Zero in the love department. Too many other choices though........

Humor....I lean a bit towards Bob's 115th Dream or Talkin' WW III.

Most memorable??? That's tough............There are a couple that are incredibly beautiful and hold a very special place within me. Bob Dylan's Dream and Lay Down Your Weary Tune are both very special to me.

There are too damn many in each category Hawk. Those are a few picks from me in a couple.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 04:47 PM

Agreed, Spaw...there are simply too many. But I thought it would be interesting to see what people would say.

Matt - Nice picks! Pretty damn good for a recent convert to Dylan. I'm impressed, though I don't agree with your rating of "Sad-Eyed Lady"...I think it's very beautiful and full of remarkable poetic images. It was about Sarah Dylan, apparently, though Joan Baez apparently thought it was about her (at one time she did, anyway). I wouldn't be surprised if it was about both of them in some degree or another, as well as about Bob himself.

You are dead right about "Suze (The Cough Song)"...that, I believe, is the shortest...if you could call it a song at all.

I think the longest is...SURPRISE!...not "Sad-Eyed Lady", but "Highlands" (off the album "Time Out of Mind"). Then too, it might be "Brownsville Girl", but I still think it's "Highlands".

My vote for least comprehensible is "Yea, Heavy, and a Bottle Of Bread". Hard to say what the hell it's about.

"Golden Loom" is an excellent choice for most mystical. My vote for that one might be "Angelina" or even "Jokerman", but it's a tough choice to be sure.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 05:11 PM

Can't say the most brilliant lyrics, but a few of my favourites are: "Beauty walks a razor's edge, someday I'll make it mine", "It was Rockaday Johnny singing 'Tell your ma, tell your Pa, our loves a gonna grow, wa wa", "I asked him what his name was and how come he didn't drive a truck, he said it was Columbus, and I just said good luck", "I can't even touch the books you've read"

Lost love songs that moved me, Girl of the North Country and Boots of Spanish Leather"

Little Hawk, I think you're right about Highlans being the longest. I love that CD, but I don't often have the patience to Listen to Highlands in it's entirety. Sad Eyed Lady although long holds my attention until the end. I think it's a wonderful song.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,khandu
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 07:19 PM

Best song that many THOUGHT was a Dylan Song: Stuck in the Middle With You- Steeler's Wheel

Song I'd love to hear BOB cover: ANYTHING I wrote!!! ;-D

khandu


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Matt_R
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 07:29 PM

I don't know...Sad Eyed Lady just seems to go on and on...but then again, I LOVE Lily Rosemary & The Jack of Hearts, so don't take my opinion too seriously!


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 07:39 PM

Matt, I never do. (just kidding)


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 08:05 PM

Hey Steve....How about "He asked me for some collateral and I pulled down my pants".????

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: DancingMom
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 08:06 PM

Most "played" Dylan song (at our house)-"Tangled up in Blue"


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: hesperis
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 02:26 AM

Spaw, that is an utterly classic line that my friend Johnny "Death" and I have repeated many times...we are both major Dylan fanatics. Johnny also likes any song with violent death in it for some reason, which is how he got the nickname. He enjoys making bizarre and extremely right wing statements in front of the rest of us folkies, who are mostly liberal to left leaning. Not to worry...he still loves Dylan, so there's hope for him!

Dylan's capacity for humour in his song lyrics has often been underrated, and the "collateral" line is a fine example of that.

How about in "Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat" when he remarks sarcastically..."I saw you makin' love to him...you forgot to close the garage door. You may think he loves you for your money, but I know what he really loves you for...it's your brand new leopard skin pillbox hat!"

Talk about a wicked putdown! He has a deadly way with words.

Khandu - What kind of songs do you write?

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 02:29 AM

Shit! Screwed up the damn cookie again! It's late and I'm not thinking straight. Sorry...

The above posting was from Little Hawk.

(Argh!)

= LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: wdyat12
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 03:01 AM

Still, my alltime favorite is for many reasons, not just Sweetie...." "Positively 4th Street." wdyat12


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:05 AM

Yeah that's a great line 'Spaw.

Little Hawk, I was trying to think of profound Lyrics last night, but I kept reverting back to his humour. Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat, Stuck Inside of Mobile (and like a fool I mixed them..." Grandpa died last week..."), I Shall Be Free, his various Dreams are all very funny songs. I think he came up with these to strike a balance with the very dark material that also showed up on most of his albums.

How about Protest song? Tough one, but in my opinion "With God on Our Side" nudges out "Masters of War".

"It may be the Devil, It may be the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody"


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:33 AM

Masters of War comes in as a pretty angry one too.

Hawk, I think the sarcastic humor is generally the best and most darkly funny........."You asked me how I was doing. Was that some kind of joke?"......"I know them, they're quite lame. I had to rearrange their faces and give them all another name."

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 02:04 PM

Well dang, how could I forget? Replace "Down On The Cove" as Happiest Dylan Song with "'Cept You".

--Matt


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 03:00 PM

Best line- "Grandpa died last Tuesday/and left us all alone/everyone was shocked about it/calling on the phone/but me I was expecting it/I knew he'd lost control/when he built a fire on Main Street/and shot it full of holes"

Most cryptic- All Along the Watchtower

Most Humorous- Quinn the Eskimo or Leopard Skin Pillbox

Best Love Song- Lay Lady Lay

Sarcastic- Have to agree with Pos 4th St, maybe Like a Rolling Stone

Spiritual- I have always liked Chimes of Freedom

Memorable- My Back Pages

Angry- Masters of War (he did write that one, didn't he?)


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Superdad
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 03:10 PM

Favourite Dylan song by another artist:

"A Hard Rains Gonna Fall" Brian Ferry

Best Dylan Line

" To live outside the law, you must be honest"

Just my .02

David aka superdad


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 03:24 PM

So what songs were about Joan Baez besides "Oh Sister"?


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Peter T.
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 04:37 PM

"Can't use the pump, cause the vandals took the handles."

"She was born in spring, but I was born too late",


"I can't hear the echo of my footsteps,
Can't remember the sound of my own name."

"You will start out standing, proud to steal her anything she sees,
You will start out standing, proud to steal her anything she sees,
But you will wind up peeking through a keyhole down upon your knees."

"When you're lost in the rain in Juarez and it's Eastertime too."
Oh, hell, one could go on all night.....
yours, Peter T. (I wonder if that is a Dylan line....)


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 05:50 PM

Reading Peter's post and realizing I do the same thing......write a phrase assuming we all know the song.....So far I have got them all, but a fun thread would be "Identify the Song from a word or two" you'd have to keep it to a real low word count though and they'd be too easy for anyone to look up...........skip it.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 06:46 PM

Most Names dropped? Tombstone Blues

Like the idea 'Spaw. I'll be back.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:01 PM

"my skin will surely crawl".......anyone?


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:11 PM

Actually, I believe that "Oh, Sister" was about Sarah Dylan. I may be wrong, but I think it was.

Some Dylan songs about Joan Baez:

Queen Jane Approximately

She Belongs To Me

Visions of Johanna

some references in "I Shall Be Free" (in one verse..."she's a humdinger...folksinger"

And probably a dozen or so others between 1964 and 1966, but who can be sure? Because..."He just walked along alone, with his guilt so well-concealed, and muttered underneath his breath 'nothing is revealed'."

- LH

p.s. I believe the lyric is "you will wind up peeking through her keyhole down upon your knees". What a difference one little word can make! Talk about a loaded line...


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:27 PM

I thought Joan Baez wrote a "response" song "Oh Brother" in retaliation for "Oh Sister".


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Matt_R
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:37 PM

Nothing is revealed? Ballad of Judas Priest and what's his name


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 09:18 PM

That'd be Frankie Lee, Matt. I think Hawk missed it, I almost did, but the Guest above his post left a lyric chunk........Okay Guest, that's from "Seven Curses." I gotta' give you credit, you started with a toughie!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 09:22 PM

Okay....Here's a little simpler one:

The water smooth ran like a hymn

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: jaze
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 11:55 PM

Way to go ,Spaw! Right on the money.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: jaze
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 11:55 PM

Way to go ,Spaw! Right on the money.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:21 AM

Thanks jaze.....Wanna' take a shot at mine or do we wait for Steve Latimer who just got the album its on?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,pata del gato
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:56 AM

we sang a Dylan in Havana.



They seated together in the park like the sky that equaled grew dark, she watched it and it felt a spark to hum to his bones ' then Twas that it felt single and wished that he gone straight and watched towards outside for a simple twist of but.

They crossed ahead by the old channel Too little confused, affluent memory and unemployed in a strange hotel with burnin of shining neon '. It felt that the heat at night struck it like a train of the load that moved with a simple twist of but.

Someplace of saxophone far from played because it was walkin ' by the arches. Then the light bust with beat - for above the curtain where it was wakin ' for above, it fell a currency in the cup of an hidden man in the door and she forgot on a simple twist but

He woke up, fourth was discovered he did not see it anywhere. He said himself that he did not take care of, pushed wide the open one of the Window, felt emptiness inside to which he just he could not be related brought ignition by a simple twist of but.

He hears along with do tictac of the clocks and the long walks a parrot that the negotiations, down look for it by the wharves of the coastline where they come sailers inside all. Perhaps it will choose it towards outside again, how long the necessity he waits for a simple twist once again of but.

People say to me that it is a sin to know and to feel too much inside. Still I believe that it was my sister, but lost the ring. It was born in means, but it was too last fault born he in a simple twist of but.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 08:06 AM

'Spaw, it's "Lay Down Your Worried Tune" one of the ones I had never heard before getting Biograph. Like the song a lot.

From the same album; "What can I say about Claudette?, Ain't seen her since January, she could be repsectably married, or running a whorehouse in Buenos Aires."


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 08:19 AM

Is it really "her keyhole"? I personally think "a keyhole" is better (it could be anywhere, one has sunk so low), but "her keyhole" is good too -- the symbolism gets a bit odder.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 09:15 AM

Jaze - I'm sure that Joan had "Oh Sister" in mind when she wrote some of the lyrics in "Oh, Brother!" (and it's pretty good too). However, I still suspect that "Oh Sister" was about Sarah. On the other hand, it could be about both Sarah and Joan! With Bob, you never know, cos he's good at "keeping things vague" (now who is that quote from?...).

Joan clearly thought that "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" was written for her (and some of the lyrics would certainly suggest it..."with your matchbook songs and your gypsy hymns"), but it seems that it was for Sarah, according to Bob.

Again, who knows? "Nobody ever knew for sure where they were really at".

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 09:43 AM

Peter T.,

It's definately "her" keyhole.

Little Hawk, I believe it was Bob himself who said that (along with I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours.)


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