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Most ... Dylan song - your vote!

Little Hawk 04 Feb 01 - 12:09 PM
Amos 04 Feb 01 - 02:14 PM
Little Hawk 04 Feb 01 - 02:54 PM
poor lonesome boy 04 Feb 01 - 04:04 PM
GUEST,khandu 04 Feb 01 - 07:59 PM
rube1 04 Feb 01 - 08:07 PM
rube1 04 Feb 01 - 08:27 PM
poor lonesome boy 04 Feb 01 - 08:29 PM
Bill D 04 Feb 01 - 10:14 PM
wdyat12 05 Feb 01 - 12:06 AM
Little Hawk 05 Feb 01 - 09:46 AM
Grab 05 Feb 01 - 10:18 AM
Steve Latimer 05 Feb 01 - 10:44 AM
cowboypoet 05 Feb 01 - 10:55 AM
GUEST,Matt_R 05 Feb 01 - 12:24 PM
GUEST,Rikki 05 Feb 01 - 12:30 PM
catspaw49 05 Feb 01 - 02:54 PM
Little Hawk 05 Feb 01 - 04:47 PM
Steve Latimer 05 Feb 01 - 05:11 PM
GUEST,khandu 05 Feb 01 - 07:19 PM
Matt_R 05 Feb 01 - 07:29 PM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 05 Feb 01 - 07:39 PM
catspaw49 05 Feb 01 - 08:05 PM
DancingMom 05 Feb 01 - 08:06 PM
hesperis 06 Feb 01 - 02:26 AM
Little Hawk 06 Feb 01 - 02:29 AM
wdyat12 06 Feb 01 - 03:01 AM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 06 Feb 01 - 08:05 AM
catspaw49 06 Feb 01 - 08:33 AM
GUEST,Matt_R 06 Feb 01 - 02:04 PM
Lonesome EJ 06 Feb 01 - 03:00 PM
Superdad 06 Feb 01 - 03:10 PM
GUEST,jaze 06 Feb 01 - 03:24 PM
Peter T. 06 Feb 01 - 04:37 PM
catspaw49 06 Feb 01 - 05:50 PM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 06 Feb 01 - 06:46 PM
GUEST 06 Feb 01 - 08:01 PM
Little Hawk 06 Feb 01 - 08:11 PM
GUEST,jaze 06 Feb 01 - 08:27 PM
Matt_R 06 Feb 01 - 08:37 PM
catspaw49 06 Feb 01 - 09:18 PM
catspaw49 06 Feb 01 - 09:22 PM
jaze 06 Feb 01 - 11:55 PM
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catspaw49 07 Feb 01 - 12:21 AM
GUEST,pata del gato 07 Feb 01 - 12:56 AM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 07 Feb 01 - 08:06 AM
Peter T. 07 Feb 01 - 08:19 AM
Little Hawk 07 Feb 01 - 09:15 AM
Steve Latimer 07 Feb 01 - 09:43 AM
GUEST,Matt_R 07 Feb 01 - 10:35 AM
Steve Latimer 07 Feb 01 - 10:38 AM
catspaw49 07 Feb 01 - 10:39 AM
Steve Latimer 07 Feb 01 - 12:02 PM
GUEST,Matt_R 07 Feb 01 - 12:06 PM
catspaw49 07 Feb 01 - 12:15 PM
Steve Latimer 07 Feb 01 - 12:15 PM
Lonesome EJ 07 Feb 01 - 12:16 PM
GUEST,Matt_R 07 Feb 01 - 12:21 PM
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Rev 07 Feb 01 - 12:44 PM
GUEST,Matt_R 07 Feb 01 - 12:54 PM
Steve Latimer 07 Feb 01 - 01:13 PM
Lonesome EJ 07 Feb 01 - 01:22 PM
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Marion 07 Feb 01 - 09:53 PM
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Subject: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 12:09 PM

A subject dear to my heart! All y' gotta do is pick out of Dylan's almost endless catalog the following:

1. Most ANGRY Dylan song:

2. Most sarcastic Dylan song:

3. Most ribald Dylan song:

4. Most mystical Dylan song:

5. Most humorous Dylan song:

6. Longest Dylan song:

7. Shortest Dylan song:

8. Most brilliant Dylan lyric:

9. Worst Dylan song of all time:

10. Best Dylan love song:

11. Most memorable Dylan song:

12. Happiest Dylan song:

13. Least comprehensible Dylan song:

NO COVER TUNES, PLEASE! These have gotta be originals. Trad songs can sometimes be included, however, if he changed them enough...which he often does.

I know what you're saying...WHO CARES!!!!

Well, if that's how you feel, then be like the 50% who didn't vote in your last election...and bitch about the results afterward! Actually, this is at least as significant an exercise as your last election on a number of levels, so git out thar and vote! Yeee-hah!

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Amos
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 02:14 PM

Most obscure: Where Have You Been (Hard Rain's Gonna Fall). Most enduring: Girl of the North Country Most rockin': Subterranean Homesick Blues Most aesthetic love song: Love Minus Zero/No Limit or perhaps Ramona

Whaddya MEAN you don't agree!!! It's OBVIOUS!! :>)

A


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 02:54 PM

Well, that's a reasonable start...I like your picks for the love songs, particularly.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: poor lonesome boy
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 04:04 PM

funniest has got to be Talking Bear Mountain Picnic Blues. I plug it into the tape deck every now and then and it never loses its humour. ... or Master of War for those with a more, um, refined sense of humour


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,khandu
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 07:59 PM

You left out "Most Drunken"; gotta be "All I Really Wanna Do".

1. Most ANGRY Dylan song: Idiot Wind

2. Most sarcastic Dylan song: Postively 4th Street

3. Most ribald Dylan song: Dirty World (Traveling Wilburys)

4. Most mystical Dylan song: Man in the long black coat

5. Most humorous Dylan song: Handy Dandy

6. Longest Dylan song: I guess "Sad Eyed Lady"

7. Shortest Dylan song: hell if I know

8. Most brilliant Dylan lyric: Ah,if there's an original thought out there, I sure could use one now" Brownsville Girl

9. Worst Dylan song of all time: Don't know the name, nor if he wrote it. "Baby can I walk your Dog from "The Last Waltz"

10. Best Dylan love song: I Believe in You / I threw it all away

11. Most memorable Dylan song: When He Returns

12. Happiest Dylan song:Tonight, I'll be staying here with you

13. Least comprehensible Dylan song: Unbelievable


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: rube1
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 08:07 PM

most ribald: vd blues-on bootleg lp longest: Sad eyed lady of the lowlands-no question most sarcastic: Can you please crawl out your window happiest: jokerman

most obscure: ballad of omie wise


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: rube1
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 08:27 PM

khandu, good choices. #9 is Baby Can I Follow You Down (from Last Waltz)


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: poor lonesome boy
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 08:29 PM

here's a shortest one fer ya:

Hava Nagila Blues (did I spell that right?).. it lasts about 30 seconds from Dylan's bootleg package


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 10:14 PM

you missed one category..."Cutest song about Dylan

thank you, Eric Bogle

(now, I DO like "The Times They Are a'Changin", "Hattie Carrol" and "It's Alright, Ma" ...moving songs all....


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: wdyat12
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 12:06 AM

The Dylan song I listened to most while getting divorced (and still do) was and is "Positively 4TH Street." "You gotta lotta nerve"...Sweetie! wdyat12


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 09:46 AM

Well, the lawyers don't help, do they?

Khandu - You know your stuff! Good choices!

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Grab
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 10:18 AM

Least comprehensible - boy, there's some competition for that one! Where do you start?!

Grab.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 10:44 AM

Pretty good choices all. My vote for funniest is "I Shall Be Free" from Freewheelin'.

Love Song, "Forever Young"


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: cowboypoet
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 10:55 AM

Never was much of a Dylan fan (gasp!) but every time I hear "My Back Pages" I see myself in college, so serious about everything and so angry about so much. "Ah, but I was so much older then -- I'm younger than that now."

So what does that make the song for me, Dylan's most embarrassing?


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 12:24 PM

1. Most ANGRY Dylan song: Idiot Wind
2. Most sarcastic Dylan song: Ballad of a Thin Man
3. Most ribald Dylan song: ?
4. Most mystical Dylan song: Golden Loom
5. Most humorous Dylan song: Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat
6. Longest Dylan song: Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands
7. Shortest Dylan song: Suze
8. Most brilliant Dylan lyric:
"And I said 'Oh I did not know that!
Cuz the only one I met
First he smoked my eyelid
Then he punched my cigarette'"

9. Worst Dylan song of all time: Sad Eyed Lady of The Lowlands
10. Best Dylan love song: The Wedding Song
11. Most memorable Dylan song: Lily, Rosemary, And the Jack of Heart...this one stayed with me for weeks
12. Happiest Dylan song: Down Along The Cove?

13. Least comprehensible Dylan song: anything on Highway 61 Revisited


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Rikki
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 12:30 PM

It's hard to pick 'the most' anything where Dylan is concerned. I love it all. The one that is in my heart the most is 'Love Minus Zero, No Limit'. It has a very special meaning for me. Rikki


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 02:54 PM

Khandu, you really are making me eat my words on Mississippi aren't you? Got some fine choices there!!!

I thought Jet Pilot was the shortest, but I haven't timed it or checked.

Idiot Wind hits a lot of those categories for me as its angry, sarcastic, even a bit of a song of unrequited love..........

Forever Young ties with Love Minus Zero in the love department. Too many other choices though........

Humor....I lean a bit towards Bob's 115th Dream or Talkin' WW III.

Most memorable??? That's tough............There are a couple that are incredibly beautiful and hold a very special place within me. Bob Dylan's Dream and Lay Down Your Weary Tune are both very special to me.

There are too damn many in each category Hawk. Those are a few picks from me in a couple.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 04:47 PM

Agreed, Spaw...there are simply too many. But I thought it would be interesting to see what people would say.

Matt - Nice picks! Pretty damn good for a recent convert to Dylan. I'm impressed, though I don't agree with your rating of "Sad-Eyed Lady"...I think it's very beautiful and full of remarkable poetic images. It was about Sarah Dylan, apparently, though Joan Baez apparently thought it was about her (at one time she did, anyway). I wouldn't be surprised if it was about both of them in some degree or another, as well as about Bob himself.

You are dead right about "Suze (The Cough Song)"...that, I believe, is the shortest...if you could call it a song at all.

I think the longest is...SURPRISE!...not "Sad-Eyed Lady", but "Highlands" (off the album "Time Out of Mind"). Then too, it might be "Brownsville Girl", but I still think it's "Highlands".

My vote for least comprehensible is "Yea, Heavy, and a Bottle Of Bread". Hard to say what the hell it's about.

"Golden Loom" is an excellent choice for most mystical. My vote for that one might be "Angelina" or even "Jokerman", but it's a tough choice to be sure.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 05:11 PM

Can't say the most brilliant lyrics, but a few of my favourites are: "Beauty walks a razor's edge, someday I'll make it mine", "It was Rockaday Johnny singing 'Tell your ma, tell your Pa, our loves a gonna grow, wa wa", "I asked him what his name was and how come he didn't drive a truck, he said it was Columbus, and I just said good luck", "I can't even touch the books you've read"

Lost love songs that moved me, Girl of the North Country and Boots of Spanish Leather"

Little Hawk, I think you're right about Highlans being the longest. I love that CD, but I don't often have the patience to Listen to Highlands in it's entirety. Sad Eyed Lady although long holds my attention until the end. I think it's a wonderful song.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,khandu
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 07:19 PM

Best song that many THOUGHT was a Dylan Song: Stuck in the Middle With You- Steeler's Wheel

Song I'd love to hear BOB cover: ANYTHING I wrote!!! ;-D

khandu


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Matt_R
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 07:29 PM

I don't know...Sad Eyed Lady just seems to go on and on...but then again, I LOVE Lily Rosemary & The Jack of Hearts, so don't take my opinion too seriously!


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 07:39 PM

Matt, I never do. (just kidding)


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 08:05 PM

Hey Steve....How about "He asked me for some collateral and I pulled down my pants".????

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: DancingMom
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 08:06 PM

Most "played" Dylan song (at our house)-"Tangled up in Blue"


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: hesperis
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 02:26 AM

Spaw, that is an utterly classic line that my friend Johnny "Death" and I have repeated many times...we are both major Dylan fanatics. Johnny also likes any song with violent death in it for some reason, which is how he got the nickname. He enjoys making bizarre and extremely right wing statements in front of the rest of us folkies, who are mostly liberal to left leaning. Not to worry...he still loves Dylan, so there's hope for him!

Dylan's capacity for humour in his song lyrics has often been underrated, and the "collateral" line is a fine example of that.

How about in "Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat" when he remarks sarcastically..."I saw you makin' love to him...you forgot to close the garage door. You may think he loves you for your money, but I know what he really loves you for...it's your brand new leopard skin pillbox hat!"

Talk about a wicked putdown! He has a deadly way with words.

Khandu - What kind of songs do you write?

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 02:29 AM

Shit! Screwed up the damn cookie again! It's late and I'm not thinking straight. Sorry...

The above posting was from Little Hawk.

(Argh!)

= LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: wdyat12
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 03:01 AM

Still, my alltime favorite is for many reasons, not just Sweetie...." "Positively 4th Street." wdyat12


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:05 AM

Yeah that's a great line 'Spaw.

Little Hawk, I was trying to think of profound Lyrics last night, but I kept reverting back to his humour. Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat, Stuck Inside of Mobile (and like a fool I mixed them..." Grandpa died last week..."), I Shall Be Free, his various Dreams are all very funny songs. I think he came up with these to strike a balance with the very dark material that also showed up on most of his albums.

How about Protest song? Tough one, but in my opinion "With God on Our Side" nudges out "Masters of War".

"It may be the Devil, It may be the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody"


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:33 AM

Masters of War comes in as a pretty angry one too.

Hawk, I think the sarcastic humor is generally the best and most darkly funny........."You asked me how I was doing. Was that some kind of joke?"......"I know them, they're quite lame. I had to rearrange their faces and give them all another name."

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 02:04 PM

Well dang, how could I forget? Replace "Down On The Cove" as Happiest Dylan Song with "'Cept You".

--Matt


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 03:00 PM

Best line- "Grandpa died last Tuesday/and left us all alone/everyone was shocked about it/calling on the phone/but me I was expecting it/I knew he'd lost control/when he built a fire on Main Street/and shot it full of holes"

Most cryptic- All Along the Watchtower

Most Humorous- Quinn the Eskimo or Leopard Skin Pillbox

Best Love Song- Lay Lady Lay

Sarcastic- Have to agree with Pos 4th St, maybe Like a Rolling Stone

Spiritual- I have always liked Chimes of Freedom

Memorable- My Back Pages

Angry- Masters of War (he did write that one, didn't he?)


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Superdad
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 03:10 PM

Favourite Dylan song by another artist:

"A Hard Rains Gonna Fall" Brian Ferry

Best Dylan Line

" To live outside the law, you must be honest"

Just my .02

David aka superdad


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 03:24 PM

So what songs were about Joan Baez besides "Oh Sister"?


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Peter T.
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 04:37 PM

"Can't use the pump, cause the vandals took the handles."

"She was born in spring, but I was born too late",


"I can't hear the echo of my footsteps,
Can't remember the sound of my own name."

"You will start out standing, proud to steal her anything she sees,
You will start out standing, proud to steal her anything she sees,
But you will wind up peeking through a keyhole down upon your knees."

"When you're lost in the rain in Juarez and it's Eastertime too."
Oh, hell, one could go on all night.....
yours, Peter T. (I wonder if that is a Dylan line....)


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 05:50 PM

Reading Peter's post and realizing I do the same thing......write a phrase assuming we all know the song.....So far I have got them all, but a fun thread would be "Identify the Song from a word or two" you'd have to keep it to a real low word count though and they'd be too easy for anyone to look up...........skip it.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 06:46 PM

Most Names dropped? Tombstone Blues

Like the idea 'Spaw. I'll be back.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:01 PM

"my skin will surely crawl".......anyone?


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:11 PM

Actually, I believe that "Oh, Sister" was about Sarah Dylan. I may be wrong, but I think it was.

Some Dylan songs about Joan Baez:

Queen Jane Approximately

She Belongs To Me

Visions of Johanna

some references in "I Shall Be Free" (in one verse..."she's a humdinger...folksinger"

And probably a dozen or so others between 1964 and 1966, but who can be sure? Because..."He just walked along alone, with his guilt so well-concealed, and muttered underneath his breath 'nothing is revealed'."

- LH

p.s. I believe the lyric is "you will wind up peeking through her keyhole down upon your knees". What a difference one little word can make! Talk about a loaded line...


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:27 PM

I thought Joan Baez wrote a "response" song "Oh Brother" in retaliation for "Oh Sister".


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Matt_R
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 08:37 PM

Nothing is revealed? Ballad of Judas Priest and what's his name


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 09:18 PM

That'd be Frankie Lee, Matt. I think Hawk missed it, I almost did, but the Guest above his post left a lyric chunk........Okay Guest, that's from "Seven Curses." I gotta' give you credit, you started with a toughie!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 09:22 PM

Okay....Here's a little simpler one:

The water smooth ran like a hymn

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: jaze
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 11:55 PM

Way to go ,Spaw! Right on the money.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: jaze
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 11:55 PM

Way to go ,Spaw! Right on the money.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:21 AM

Thanks jaze.....Wanna' take a shot at mine or do we wait for Steve Latimer who just got the album its on?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,pata del gato
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:56 AM

we sang a Dylan in Havana.



They seated together in the park like the sky that equaled grew dark, she watched it and it felt a spark to hum to his bones ' then Twas that it felt single and wished that he gone straight and watched towards outside for a simple twist of but.

They crossed ahead by the old channel Too little confused, affluent memory and unemployed in a strange hotel with burnin of shining neon '. It felt that the heat at night struck it like a train of the load that moved with a simple twist of but.

Someplace of saxophone far from played because it was walkin ' by the arches. Then the light bust with beat - for above the curtain where it was wakin ' for above, it fell a currency in the cup of an hidden man in the door and she forgot on a simple twist but

He woke up, fourth was discovered he did not see it anywhere. He said himself that he did not take care of, pushed wide the open one of the Window, felt emptiness inside to which he just he could not be related brought ignition by a simple twist of but.

He hears along with do tictac of the clocks and the long walks a parrot that the negotiations, down look for it by the wharves of the coastline where they come sailers inside all. Perhaps it will choose it towards outside again, how long the necessity he waits for a simple twist once again of but.

People say to me that it is a sin to know and to feel too much inside. Still I believe that it was my sister, but lost the ring. It was born in means, but it was too last fault born he in a simple twist of but.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 08:06 AM

'Spaw, it's "Lay Down Your Worried Tune" one of the ones I had never heard before getting Biograph. Like the song a lot.

From the same album; "What can I say about Claudette?, Ain't seen her since January, she could be repsectably married, or running a whorehouse in Buenos Aires."


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 08:19 AM

Is it really "her keyhole"? I personally think "a keyhole" is better (it could be anywhere, one has sunk so low), but "her keyhole" is good too -- the symbolism gets a bit odder.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 09:15 AM

Jaze - I'm sure that Joan had "Oh Sister" in mind when she wrote some of the lyrics in "Oh, Brother!" (and it's pretty good too). However, I still suspect that "Oh Sister" was about Sarah. On the other hand, it could be about both Sarah and Joan! With Bob, you never know, cos he's good at "keeping things vague" (now who is that quote from?...).

Joan clearly thought that "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" was written for her (and some of the lyrics would certainly suggest it..."with your matchbook songs and your gypsy hymns"), but it seems that it was for Sarah, according to Bob.

Again, who knows? "Nobody ever knew for sure where they were really at".

- LH


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From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 09:43 AM

Peter T.,

It's definately "her" keyhole.

Little Hawk, I believe it was Bob himself who said that (along with I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours.)


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From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 10:35 AM

"I try to pet your monkey
I get a facefull of paws
I say who's that in the fireplace
And you tell me 'Santa Claus'."

Classic line!!!!


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 10:38 AM

Favourite verse from one of my favourite Dylan songs.

I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more. No, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more. Well, she talks to all the servants About man and God and law. Everybody says She's the brains behind pa. She's sixty-eight, but she says she's twenty-four. I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more.


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From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 10:39 AM

Steve, its funny.....I listened to "Lay Down Your Weary Tune" a lot and never gave it a thought. Then one day it just hit me and went right to the top of my list. Songs are like that with me sometimes.................

"Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar"

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:02 PM

Another great line,

"I offered up my innocence, got repaid with scorn"


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:06 PM

Darn I'm no good at this!

I think I need more Dylan albums! :-(

I was checking out sound clips from Bringing It All Back Home...pretty darn cool stuff. I think I'll get that one next instead of Nashville Skyline. The songs seem to have that same bouncy jivin' feel as the original version of "It Takes A Lot To Laugh, A Train To Cry" and "Sitting On a Barber Wire Fence" from the Bootlegs.

--Matt


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From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:15 PM

"Shelter from the Storm".......a really great song filled with good lines!!!

Okay Matt.....Here's an easy one for you that I know you'll get:

Nothing is revealed

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:15 PM

Matt,

Did you get Planet Waves? If so,whadda ya think?

I'd place BIABH in my top five list of Dylan Albums.

Not a big fan of Nashville Skyline, although I haven't listnened to it in twenty some odd years.


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From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:16 PM

I like pata's Dylan song, and now feel that it has to be the most cryptic one

He hears along with do tictac of the clocks and the long walks a parrot that the negotiations, down look for it by the wharves of the coastline where they come sailers inside all. Perhaps it will choose it towards outside again, how long the necessity he waits for a simple twist once again of but.

Ah, yes, Dylan has a way with the words.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:21 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't get this "simple twist of but" thing?

And Spaw, someone already mentioned that! It's The Ballad of Frankie Lee & Judas Priest.

Here's one for you all.

"Million dollar man."


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From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:38 PM

Sorry Matt....I saw it had been mentioned but I didn't think that line had......look on the bright side....you got it!

"Catfish"

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Rev
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:44 PM

Maybe you'll be able to tell from my list what my favorite Dylan album is . . . then again, maybe not.

1. Most ANGRY Dylan song: I Don't Believe You (She acts like we never have meT)

2. Most sarcastic Dylan song: Ballad of a Thin Man

3. Most ribald Dylan song: Tangled up in Blue

4. Most mystical Dylan song: Rainy Day Women

5. Most humorous Dylan song: Talkin' Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Disaster Blues

6. Longest Dylan song: Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts

7. Shortest Dylan song: Mozambique

8. Most brilliant Dylan lyric: The entire song "Boots of Spanish Leather"

9. Worst Dylan song of all time: Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts

10. Best Dylan love song: One More Cup of Coffee

11. Most memorable Dylan song: Blowin' in the Wind

12. Happiest Dylan song: Mozambique

13. Least comprehensible Dylan song: Subterranean Homesick Blues


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 12:54 PM

Subterreanean Homesick Blues? Geez, haven't ANY of you read "Dylan: The Early Years"? You gotta get the scoop!


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 01:13 PM

Rev,

I'm guessing Desire. As mentioned earlier, I just got Biograph and am enjoying just about all of it, with the exception of a Live, rocked up version of Isis. Hate it, won't listen to it again. Really like the original.

Lilly, Rosemary & The Jack of Hearts the worst? One of my favourites. That's what makes horseracing, a difference of opinion.

Matt, please fill us in on what the book had to say about Subterranean Homesick Blues.

Joe Cocker did a pretty neat version of "Catfish" in the seventies.


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 01:22 PM

Then there's always this one

Talkin World-Worn Flea Blues

One time I goed crazy,a dream come to me
thought I's walkin with a world-worn flea
in my dream there's nobody else around
cept an orange in a tree, hangin down
climbed up th trunk highs I could go
but the fruit was outta reach, and I told th flea so
said th flea to me "don't worry yer head
I'll climb up on the branch instead
alls I really need from you is some means of travel
a rock or a shoe or a big chunk o gravel
or anything else that you can find
see I'll sit on it and you can send me flyin"
so down goes I and I walks around
lookin for flea-fliers on th ground
then what should I kick with my stumblin feet
some body dropped their bicycle seat!
well I picked it up and on jumps th flea
and I flung him up in that citrus tree
I said "come on, boy, drop that orange down"
but the flea just laughed sayin "Ain't you a clown!"
He said "I got better things to do
than sit in th dirt eatin lunch with you"
now I don't mind sayin,it made me swear
to watch that flea puttin on airs
and as I start to stomp and steam
thats where i wake up from this crazy dream
now a very wise man once said
all them dreams is just in yer head
but my advice is of a different kind-
you give me half of yer orange, I'll give you half of mine


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 01:26 PM

Lonesome EJ,

Where did you get that?

Steve


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Marion
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 09:53 PM

1. Most ANGRY Dylan song: Masters of War

5. Most humorous Dylan song: It's Alright Ma

6. Longest Dylan song: With God on Our Side

7. Shortest Dylan song: He didn't write short songs.

8. Most brilliant Dylan lyric: "He not busy being born is busy dying."

9. Worst Dylan song of all time: Oh Sister (because it sounds to me like he's saying, "If you won't go to bed with me you're going against God's plan.")

10. Best Dylan love song: Shelter From the Storm

11. Most memorable Dylan song: Blowing in the Wind (just because it's the one that everybody seems to know, even if they're sick of it).

12. Happiest Dylan song: You Ain't Going Nowhere

13. Least comprehensible Dylan song: I Married Isis


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Rev
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 10:12 PM

Hey Steve,

I'm not sure what my issue is with Lily, Rosemary, etc... except that maybe it sounds to me sometimes like Dylan doing a parody of himself, I think there are a few songs that give me that feeling. I love that Biograph - I still have my 5 album set of vinyl that I bought from the Columbia Record and Tape club in the 80s. I think my favorites on that are "Abandoned Love" and "Visions of Johanna."

How about Most Overplayed: Mr Tamborine Man (except for the version on "Live 1966")


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From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 11:40 PM

Rev,

I'm still new to it, but is Abandoned Love the outtake from Blood On The Tracks.

Love the acoustic Visoions of Johanna.

'Spaw,

Missed your post somehow about "Lay Down Your Weary Tune". I find Bob and a very few others do that from time to time, you'll hear a song a bunch of times, then a line or a phrase will grab you and your're hooked. This song is not yet my favourite tune from Biograph, but it might get me yet. I do like it though.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 02:44 PM

You got it guys! "Blowin' In The Wind" is the most memorable. The trick with this song is...when you play it, give it some kind of new feel, some kind of different expression. DON'T try to sound like Peter, Paul & Mary doing an instant replay!

Matt- I don't get "simple twist of but" Explain, please.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 03:23 PM

Hawk- I thought these were all matters of opinion. You mean there are right and wrong responses?! :>}


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 08:33 PM

Good one, LEJ! Nope. Just my opinion, that's all. :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: joshleik
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 09:14 PM

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From: GUEST,Amleik@aol.com
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 10:06 PM

Angry: Positively 4th Street Sarcastic: Most of the Time Ribald: It's All Over Now, Baby Blue Mystical: When He Returns Humorous: I Shall Be Free Longest: Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands Shortest: Country Pie (or Talkin' Hava neghilah Blues) Most Brilliant Lyric: "I Don't even remember what it was I came here to get away from" Worst Song: Wiggle, Wiggle Best Love Song: Born in Time Memorable: Seven Curses Happiest: Tonight I'll be Staying Here w/ You Least comprehendible: Jokerman (heard all the explanations, still not clear/haven't decided who "Jokerman" is)


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 05:26 PM

Yeah, Jokerman is a puzzler, but it's a great song...most mysterious. It remains one of Bob's greatest of all time, I think. "Changing of the Guards" is another great one. I agree that "Handy Dandy" is a pretty wretched lyric.

- LH


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From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 06:21 PM

Hawk, your point on "blowin" is well taken and what can either kill a song or keep it alive. When I began thinking of it as an angry protest, almost a rage (like "when is this shit gonna' end???"), it gave the song a new life for me. Its a style that some don't like (too much PPM influence), but I like doing it that way....it takes all the sappiness away.

Spaw


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 06:40 PM

Yeah, I heard a very neat live take of the song by Dylan from quite recently. I think it was on some bootleg that my friend Johny Death had of Dylan in concert during 1999 or 2000. Anyway, he did the verses very quietly and then came in strong on the choruses with harmony singers...quite interesting and different. Sort of like a gospel singalong.

- LH


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From: Steve Latimer
Date: 11 Feb 01 - 10:43 PM

I'm thinking that "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" was written about Joan Baez.

So I hate to sound like a broken record (CD), but the live version on Biograph is absolutely magical. I believe it is also the version that is on Live '66.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Feb 01 - 10:47 PM

Yeah! What a song!

I may have been written about Baez. She also recorded it in '65 and has sung it many times. It was my favourite Baez doing Dylan song of all time.

- LH


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From: GUEST,my vote
Date: 11 Jul 03 - 09:33 PM

most brilliant dylan lyric:
What can i say about Claudette, ain't seen her since january
She could be respectably married or runnin' a whorehouse in Buenos Aires.
from "The Groom's Still Waiting At The Altar"


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From: Sam L
Date: 12 Jul 03 - 10:12 AM

I always thought Jokerman was a song about Jesus from a point of view of disbelief, but with a strangely sympathetic tone. I've never heard any explanations.

Happiest and most incomprehesible--Santa Fe. If anyone knows the actual words I'd like to see them. Every lyric I've seen is wrong on a word or two, but I can't hear some of the others.

   My favorite line in Jack of Hearts is Be careful not to touch the wall, there's a brand new coat of paint. Dylan has the short-story gift for the passing detail that charges everything with reality.


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From: GUEST,boab d(as a guest again)
Date: 12 Jul 03 - 12:04 PM

Well since I'm named after him then I think that I should have a say in this wee thing dont you.
Well I dont know about all the catagories but well I dont even know loads of his songs
Best song though
Has to be I Threw It All Away
but to be honest with you any song that he sings is rotten as he's like the worst singer in the world and I dont even think that it's on purpose(I think he thinks he can sing) any way there you go on that one. This is the kind of question for my Da cos he thinks he's really good and stuff
Dylan


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jul 03 - 12:44 PM

Okay, well, if you think he thinks he can sing what do you think about the fact that I think he can sing, me being myself a very good singer according to most people? Good singing is based upon a number of things, among which are the ability to express and communicate both the emotion and the idea contained in the lyric in an effective manner. Some people sing on key beautifully, but are incapable of investing the song with any real life. Are they good singers? I don't think so.

Why do so many other good singers like the way Dylan sings? Gotta ask yourself that, son.

- LH


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From: GUEST,Boab D
Date: 12 Jul 03 - 01:26 PM

well Maw the thing is that even though I am neither a singer nor a person who has given the world beautiful music(apart from my own songs) In my OPINION he just isnt a good singer. If I can appreciate his songwriting ability but not like and enjoy his singing is that a crime?
I enjoy the voice of Mark Knopfler who is in a similar vein to Dylan and has also written some great songs. Both men are rightfully recognised as great writers but neither of them will ever go down in history as great or even good singers. If someone can sing in key beautifully then good for them others cant. No problem there and as for emotion well that goes with out saying only the songwriter can sing their songs the way they should be sang with the right emotion and experssion of their soul, feeling and passion. But it still doesnt make Dylan sound good through these ears.
Final wee point on this matter from me at the concert where sinead got booed off do you honestly think that he was the best performer on stage that night? cos he really was rotten. Or did some people sing his songs better than he did. I know that i have just contradicted my self in this wee sentence and I'm not affraid to admit it but for me he cant sing.
Speak to you later auld yin
Dylan

PS listen to aztec camera and I Threw It All Away and then tell me who sings it better. killermont street.com or something like that.


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From: Sam L
Date: 12 Jul 03 - 02:45 PM

Oh no, of course not. Kris Kristofferson singing I'll be your Baby Tonight was far and away the best singing performance at that concert.

In my opinion Dylan can sing.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jul 03 - 04:07 PM

That show was definitely not one of Dylan's better nights. I agree that a number of the other performers at that concert sang far better than he did. On the other hand, I've seen and heard him sing marvelously...on certain nights. Bob is very unpredictable. I can of course understand that you don't like the way he sings. I couldn't stand the way he sang either when I was a teenager, but when I hit 21 all of a sudden I started to love the way he sang. I guess my expectations changed at that point.

I also think Mark Knopfler is a great singer, although he's not what you'd call a singer with a flawlessly on-pitch perfect voice. He's a great singer because he's expressive in the manner that fits the song. Ditto for Dylan.

- LH


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From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jul 03 - 03:33 PM

Anyone remember the name of a Dylan song that Dave Van Ronk did with a Dixieland Jazz band? Something about "all over you". May bump out contenders in "ribald" category.


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From: melodeon king
Date: 13 Jul 03 - 06:30 PM

Blind Willie McTell - that's brilliant!


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jul 03 - 07:55 PM

Yep. Classic example of Dylan singing up a hurricane.


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From: Candyman(inactive)
Date: 13 Jul 03 - 10:30 PM

Anyone remember the name of a Dylan song that Dave Van Ronk did with a Dixieland Jazz band? Something about "all over you". May bump out contenders in "ribald" category.

On the recent CD reissue Two Sides of Dave Van Ronk, it's just called "All Over You." On the original LP, In the Tradition, it was called "If I Had To Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You."


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Subject: RE: Most '........' Dylan song - your vote!
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 03 - 12:06 PM

Thanks! My copy was stolen years ago, but it was almost warn out anyway from trying to learn "St. Louis Tickle".


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From: pdq
Date: 15 Jul 03 - 10:48 PM

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