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GUEST,leila 02 Feb 01 - 05:03 PM
MMario 02 Feb 01 - 05:05 PM
Bert 02 Feb 01 - 05:07 PM
sophocleese 02 Feb 01 - 05:11 PM
MMario 02 Feb 01 - 05:13 PM
katlaughing 02 Feb 01 - 05:15 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 02 Feb 01 - 05:23 PM
McGrath of Harlow 02 Feb 01 - 05:31 PM
Noreen 02 Feb 01 - 08:09 PM
Bugsy 02 Feb 01 - 08:11 PM
GUEST,joe 02 Feb 01 - 08:31 PM
Noreen 02 Feb 01 - 09:27 PM
SeanM 02 Feb 01 - 09:55 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 03 Feb 01 - 06:11 AM
GUEST,leila 03 Feb 01 - 03:47 PM
GUEST 03 Feb 01 - 03:59 PM
Mooh 03 Feb 01 - 04:02 PM
Susanne (skw) 03 Feb 01 - 05:30 PM
McGrath of Harlow 03 Feb 01 - 07:46 PM
John Routledge 03 Feb 01 - 07:52 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 04 Feb 01 - 07:01 AM
Mooh 04 Feb 01 - 08:41 AM
Noreen 04 Feb 01 - 10:20 AM
Annegi 04 Feb 01 - 04:07 PM
nutty 04 Feb 01 - 04:53 PM
Helen 04 Feb 01 - 05:30 PM
blt 05 Feb 01 - 04:04 AM
Susanne (skw) 07 Feb 01 - 04:58 PM
Mary in Kentucky 08 Feb 01 - 03:48 PM
Mooh 09 Feb 01 - 02:04 PM
sledge 10 Feb 01 - 03:19 AM
Janice in NJ 12 Mar 04 - 06:00 PM
mg 12 Mar 04 - 08:26 PM
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The Villan 13 Mar 04 - 07:58 AM
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GUEST,Hugh Jampton 14 May 04 - 10:07 AM
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Subject: Women's music
From: GUEST,leila
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:03 PM

I'm new here first off, but I'd like to ask for information if it's ok.

I am looking for women's folk songs. No specific region or style, just women's songs - women's music. Folk/tradtional songs that would traditionally been sung by women.

Any help, tips, sources posted would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Leila


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: MMario
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:05 PM

leila - welcome. try putting "women's" into the filter box (without the qoutes) and then set the "age" range back a year or two. you should find a number of interesting threads to peruse.

You also might want to read the newcomers FAQ at the top of the forum list of threads. I has a bunch of handy hints about how to get around the site.

If you have problems , yell for help. someone will probably be along shortly.

Oops! Sorry, GAQ was edited by a Joeclone.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Bert
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:07 PM

here's one such thread


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: sophocleese
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:11 PM

So MMario a GAQ would be Genially Asked Questions?


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: MMario
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:13 PM

I always thought a GAQ was the sound you made when you find half a worm in the apple you just bit.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:15 PM

Welcome to the Mudcat, Leila. You can also search the DigiTrad database where over 8,000 song lyrics, and sometimes, tunea are available. Just go to the top righthand corner and enter keywords in the search box.

We have many women members who I am sure will be able to help you. One, Animaterra, is director of a women's choral group by the same name. If you become a member of the Mudcat (it's free) then you could send her a personal message. Her group has some wonderful tapes and CD's available with beautiful songs on them.

Like MMario said, holler, questions are always welcome around here.

kat


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:23 PM

I'd love to chat with you, Leila! There are so many songs out there. Waulking songs for working the wool, mill songs, cradle songs, "my man done left me" songs- if you take the time to search the DT as kat suggested you'll have enough material for a lifetime of singing!


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:31 PM

I think you'll likely find that any song you want to sing will in fact have been sung by women.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Noreen
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 08:09 PM

I've realised that my repertoire leans heavily on 'abandoned women' songs- I'll let you have a list if you like, leila... *grin*

But I've also been told that I'm abandoned... not sure about that...

Noreen


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Bugsy
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 08:11 PM

I don't make the distinction.. If I like a song, I sing it. Whether it be from the male or female perspective.

Never had a problem with it.

CHeers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: GUEST,joe
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 08:31 PM

leila, are you in pasadena? ( i didn't do it!)


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Noreen
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 09:27 PM

Bugsy, I agree- within reason. The song's the thing, and if you have a feel for it, you are likely to put it over well.

Noreen


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: SeanM
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 09:55 PM

McGrath... tell me about it.

I've got a couple CDs with the Grehan sisters singing "Black Velvet Band" and "Orange & the Green", both in traditional male versions. Then again, I've also got the Clancy's doing "Old Maid in the Garret"...

M


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 06:11 AM

Still, it's a very moving thing to sing a song like Still I love him and be able to identify with it as a woman-to-a-woman, reaching hands across time and space in a way. And yes, I sing mostly non-gender-specific songs, a lot of "men's" songs ( Griselda being one of my favorites!). But I also understand Leila's interest.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: GUEST,leila
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 03:47 PM

Thanks for all the tips everyone! I really appreciate friendly forums such as this. I will try out all of your advice.

I agree that any song can be a womans song, and I sing a lot of songs no matter what the subject. I just thought it would be nice to learn some new ones that were designed and obviously sung from the woman's point of view.

For example there are a lot of beautiful folk/trad. songs about working in the mines, or on ships about the hard work and frequent difficulties, but what about contemporary songs about how the women felt about losing their men (father, lovers, husbands, sons) to these travails?

As time permits I will certainly search the past threads and databases. Thanks again!

Cheers, leila (not in pasadena)


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 03:59 PM

Poverty, poverty,knock, and the collier lass are "working women" songs "the sun and the moon is a lullaby about a man killed in a mine".Think you'll find them in the database


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Mooh
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 04:02 PM

This is not really my area of expertise, but The Irish Woman's Songbook, published by The Mercier Press (1986), has 50 songs, 6 in Irish and the rest in English. These are intended to be sung by the female voice and from the female perspective. Unfortunately, I haven't had the opportunity to accompany anyone singing these, but many of them look very good.

The publisher's address is: The Mercier Press, 4 Bridge Street, Cork. and 24 Lower Abbey Street Dublin.

Interesting topic, thanks. Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 05:30 PM

Ieila, I'm sure you've heard of 'Mothers Daughters Wives', Judy Small's song about women seeing their men go to war again and again. It should be in one of the older threads, and also in the DT. 'Whaur Dae Ye Lie' by Karine Polwart is one that may not have made it to the Forum yet, about women in former Yugoslavia lamenting their murdered menfolk. Simple but haunting. I haven't got the words down yet, or I'd end them.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 07:46 PM

"For example there are a lot of beautiful folk/trad. songs about working in the mines, or on ships about the hard work and frequent difficulties, but what about contemporary songs about how the women felt about losing their men (father, lovers, husbands, sons)"

There's a fair bunch of these, such as this one or this one, The Recruited Collier with the lines that always send a shiver down my spine:

He hewed the very coals we burn
And when the fire I'm lighting
To think the coals was in his hands
It sets my heart to beating


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: John Routledge
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 07:52 PM

Historically in the UK male songs have been sung by females and vice-versa.GB


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 07:01 AM

The Irish Woman's song book is great! So is Here's to the Women (click here) "This anthology of 100 traditional and contemporary songs (words and music) is the first major collection to tie women's songs to their culture and history."


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Mooh
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 08:41 AM

Thanks for the support Animaterra! Maybe I'll show it to some friends.

Sorry if I mention THE BOOK which is not always favoured around here but Rise Up Singing has some possibilities, doesn't it?

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 10:20 AM

I've been thinking about this a lot since this thread came up, and I've come to the conclusion that there are certain songs which are best sung by a woman, for example Lord Gregory (The Lass of Loch Royal)- what do you think?

Noreen

(BTW The place should be Cappoquin.)


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Annegi
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 04:07 PM

There are some lovely songs on 'A Woman's Heart'- a compilation of various Irish singers including Maura O'Connell, Frances Black, Mary Black, Eleanor McEvoy. Marketed by Dolphin Traders. Annegi


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: nutty
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 04:53 PM

There are all the songs telling of the different jobs women undertook:-

Poverty Knocks
The Doffing Mistress
Cushie Butterfield
Caller Herring
The Broom of Cowdenowles
Call the Yowes
The shearings not for you
Jute Mill Song
To name but a few


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Helen
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 05:30 PM

Judy Small's songs all relate to women's experiences. If you put [Judy Small] - with the square brackets - in the blue search box at top right of this page you will find a few of her songs in the DT (Digital Traditions) database.

Her home page is here:


Click here http://www.netspace.net.au/~sdyson/home.html

Also the Scottish folk harp duo called Sileas - Patsy Sedden & Mary McMaster, also half of the Poozies - have some wonderful, funny, raunchy women's songs on their albums.

Ifyou want to be totally overwhelmed by choices for CD's go and check out the Ladyslipper music site.


Click here http://www.ladyslipper.org/

There were also some really good threads on women's songs. I tried to find them yesterday but totally timed out my request and crashed my Netscape browser - after I had typed all of the above in here and hadn't saved it. Oh well.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: blt
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 04:04 AM

Maybe this will turn into a thread listing favorite women folksingers/musicians. Some of the women I listen to a lot (now and in the past) include Odetta, Maybelle Carter, Peggy Seegar, all those blues ladies, Hazel and Alice, Holly Near, a singer I think that goes by the name of Frankie Armstrong (she's blind? I can't remember her name which is embarrassing), Jean Ritchie, Sweet Honey in the Rock, and I know there's about a million others but it's late and I'm perimenopausal.

blt


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 04:58 PM

Frankie Armstrong is right, and luckily she isn't blind any more. She had an operation some years ago which restored a good deal of her eyesight. She's a great singer and has also published a women's songbook together with Sandra Kerr and ??? (sorry!). She also does voice workshops round the world, I think. Thistakes you to a website concerning her.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 03:48 PM

I noticed that blt mentioned several Appalachian ladies. I think many times a song is not only representative of male/female or a particular time in history, but rather, it represents the culture of a region. I'm thinking of Hard is the Fortune/Wagoner's Lad/Pretty Saro. It plaintively expresses the feelings of a woman in a society which doesn't always place much emphasis on a woman's feelings.

Spaw had a nice comment about this here.

If you put the words "hard is the fortune" in the search box (without the quotes) you'll find discussions about this song. I would also recommend hearing Tinker sing it on PalTalk.

Don't forget to do a search on lullabies. They are not strictly for women, but some of the ballads seem to be telling a story from the woman's point of view.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Mooh
Date: 09 Feb 01 - 02:04 PM

After I sent a link to this thread to my Mum and 3 sisters, who are all heavily involved in the Girl Guides and have active interest in women's issues, it occurred to me that the various Girl Guide Associations around the world will have song books and other resources containing music for women. Perhaps a quick net search would turn something up. As for titles, I could maybe find some when Mum returns from a GG trip. PM me if you're interested.

Mooh (the eternal Boy Scout).


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: sledge
Date: 10 Feb 01 - 03:19 AM

One of the best I've heard was performed by the Poozies called Cotten Mill Girls, and Helens right some of their material is pretty raunchy and full of humour.

Stuart


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 06:00 PM

Women in Harmony Music Camp for Women

Women in Harmony is a camp for women of all musical abilities and interests. It will be held July 9 to 11, 2004, at Camp Pleiades, near Asheville, North Carolina. You'll find lots of wonderful teachers, workshops, song circles, and an open microphone, as well as great meals, comfortable cabins or camping space, gorgeous forest land, and a pond for swimming. For more information, please go to:

Jamie Anderson's website


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: mg
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 08:26 PM

Penny Sidor of Vancouver, B.C., Canada, used to or maybe still does put on a singing camp for women....she is an excellent singer and teacher. mg


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: matai
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 06:34 AM

A musician called Ray Fisher, a gorgeous woman not at all young, came to New Zealand a few years ago and she had some very interesting traditional songs from the women's perspective. She was also very funny in between songs...gave her bloke such a hard time I'd not be surprised if he's done gone and left her...(just joking) She's from somewhere in England but of Scottish extraction. She put me in mind so much of my McNeil aunties and their funny stories that I laughed all the way through her show. She'd be worth checking out. I'm sure she's recorded.

matai


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 07:58 AM

Well guys, its time to become a Mrs Doubtfire or a Tootsie, and then head on over there. The mind boggles. A womens camp of women artists.
Oops the wife has just seen this post, and has banned me. Ah well you can't win them all. :-)


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 03:22 PM

In the female prison
There are seventy-five women
And I wish it was among them
That I did dwell...


From The Ould Triangle by Brendan Behan


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 03:25 PM



Ray is Archie Fisher's sister.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 05:32 PM

Does that make Cilla her sister then?


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 05:33 PM

Yes.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 05:36 PM

The Fisher Family


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: open mike
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 04:19 AM

fun that the women's camp is by Pleiades..the constellation of the seven sisters!@
i was invited by a woman d.j. friend to sing on the radio today in honor of women's history month.
i sang 3 songs by and about women..
Old Friend by Laurie Lewis,
Piney Wood Hills by Buffy St. Marie
Geraldine and Ruthie May by Sarah Elizabeth Campbell (bag ladies' song)
a girl i had met earlier in the day was asking for donations for a
project. When i asked her what the project was for she said a "Tattered
Women's Shelter" What a great term!
I have always had an affinity for songs by for and about women.
such as: Tecumseh Valley by Townes Van Zant,
Darcy Farrow, by Steve Gillette, and Tom Campbell,
star of the county down and others.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: open mike
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 01:57 PM

I went to concert over 20 years ago by an amazing collection of women
..the Women on Wheels tour...in Oakland, CA. the performance was by
Holly Near ,
Chris Williamson , Meg Christian and Margie Adam .
This was the ipitome (opitamy) (*oh gosh i guess i do not know how to
spell that word) any way this whole tour featured women performers, the light and sound crew was women, the stage hands and road crew were women....very impressive! (should i put a link to this on the all-women band thread?)


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Amos
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 02:09 PM

I assume you mean epitome, and not episeotomy? A


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: open mike
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 02:39 PM

yes, a slice above, not a slice below!!


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 14 May 04 - 08:09 AM

Yes, it's a change of direction, but the title of this thread seems right for this message!

Want to get a pure estrogen high? Then come to the...

Brooklyn Women's Chorus
Annual Spring Concert
Friday, June 25, 2004
8:00 PM


at the...

Brooklyn Society for Ethical Culture
53 Prospect Park West
(corner of 2nd Street)
Brooklyn, New York


Admission: $10.

Special guests:
Colleen Kattau
Jolie Rickman
Barry Kornhauser
Bruce Markow

Chorus director: Bev Grant

Brooklyn Women's Chorus website link.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: SallyM
Date: 14 May 04 - 09:50 AM

It is nice to sing all types of songs, however I do like to sing songs from the woman's perspective and identify with the sentiments expressed, happy, funny, sad. Here is a link (- that is if I can make this work - being a mere untechy woman after all!) that lists some resources, I have a heavily used copy of the "My song is my own" by Sandra Kerr which lists about 100 songs of all types but all from the woman's perspective.
http://creativefolk.com/folk.html

Sally


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 14 May 04 - 10:07 AM

"My old man said follow the van and don`t dilly-dally on the way".
It is undoubtedly music hall but is patently a womans` song. But, perhaps in 2004 I am being a little presumptuous.


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 08:47 AM

plenty of background bibliography, discography and discussion topics in the course syllabus for "Women, Representation, and Music in Selected Folk Traditions of the British Isles and North America" seminars taught by Ruth Perry (MIT) and Judith Tick (Northeastern)
background info at http://www.radcliffe.edu/students/gcws/courses/03-04_courses.php and detailed syllabus at http://www.radcliffe.edu/students/gcws/courses/Perry-Tick_syllabus.pdf


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 10:21 AM

In my contribution for the Eurogathering 2004 The Blue Stork we have to songs put together; from stanza 4 on it is a discussion between mother and daughter about marrying. Another version, in German, you may find here.

Songs which no man would sing are songs about spinning. In Germany they were sung by women when sitting together in winter time spinning and having a good time with singing and telling stories while working; especially bachelors joined these gatherings to have a good look at the nubile girls.
Spin, girl
Spin, dear daughter
Turn araund, spinning wheel


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Subject: RE: Women's music
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 08:53 AM

Women in Harmony
Music Camp for Women
June 22-25, 2006
The Mountain Retreat & Learning Centers
Highlands, North Carolina

Information is on-line at http://www.mountaincenters.org/ or call the Mountain Retreat & Learning Centers at 828-526-5838. No matter what your level of playing or singing, this camp is for you. There will be workshops in guitar, voice, songwriting, mandolin, drumming and more, plus several song circles and open mikes. Instructors this year are Jamie Anderson, Phyllis Free, Mary Hocks and Elaine Townsend. The cost is $350 if you register before May 22 and $397 if you register later. This fee covers all programming, comfortable lodge housing and delicious food.


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