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BS: Fishing

annamill 19 Jan 01 - 02:05 PM
catspaw49 19 Jan 01 - 01:18 PM
Bert 19 Jan 01 - 01:04 PM
SINSULL 19 Jan 01 - 12:59 PM
Allan C. 19 Jan 01 - 12:59 PM
annamill 19 Jan 01 - 12:54 PM
Allan C. 18 Jan 01 - 01:04 PM
SINSULL 18 Jan 01 - 01:01 PM
Allan C. 18 Jan 01 - 12:59 PM
GUEST,LEJ 18 Jan 01 - 12:48 PM
Bert 18 Jan 01 - 12:41 PM
AggieBethie 18 Jan 01 - 12:08 PM
Allan C. 18 Jan 01 - 11:55 AM
AggieBethie 18 Jan 01 - 11:49 AM
catspaw49 18 Jan 01 - 11:31 AM
Allan C. 18 Jan 01 - 11:13 AM
Jimmy C 18 Jan 01 - 10:40 AM
walkinman 18 Jan 01 - 07:59 AM
Ella who is Sooze 18 Jan 01 - 05:07 AM
mousethief 17 Jan 01 - 01:15 PM
catspaw49 17 Jan 01 - 01:07 PM
SINSULL 17 Jan 01 - 12:52 PM
GUEST,Matt_R 17 Jan 01 - 12:14 PM
SINSULL 17 Jan 01 - 12:04 PM
GUEST,Bob Schwarer 17 Jan 01 - 11:31 AM
catspaw49 17 Jan 01 - 11:13 AM
GUEST,Matt_R 17 Jan 01 - 10:07 AM
Gervase 17 Jan 01 - 09:50 AM
Ella who is Sooze 17 Jan 01 - 09:26 AM
catspaw49 16 Jan 01 - 06:15 PM
annamill 16 Jan 01 - 05:24 PM
Bert 16 Jan 01 - 05:24 PM
SINSULL 16 Jan 01 - 05:13 PM
Greyeyes 16 Jan 01 - 05:03 PM
FLUFF 16 Jan 01 - 04:51 PM
Bert 16 Jan 01 - 04:50 PM
SINSULL 16 Jan 01 - 04:41 PM
Liam's Brother 16 Jan 01 - 04:36 PM
annamill 16 Jan 01 - 04:18 PM
SINSULL 16 Jan 01 - 04:04 PM
Bert 16 Jan 01 - 03:48 PM
SINSULL 16 Jan 01 - 03:30 PM
SINSULL 16 Jan 01 - 03:26 PM
Greyeyes 16 Jan 01 - 03:14 PM
Bert 16 Jan 01 - 03:13 PM
catspaw49 16 Jan 01 - 03:10 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: annamill
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 02:05 PM

No, Sins, that's the best part. I don't know if they do it for men, but they bait your hooks (I bait my own) and take the fish off the line and clean the fish at the end of the trip. I love it!

Shhh, quiet, Allan!

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 01:18 PM

Bert, your worm wouldn't feed a guppy..............

Now if y'all are plannin' this trip, is there a sailboat rentall place nearby? I'd be happy to sail past and snag a few lines.....its a kind of specialty of mine.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 01:04 PM

SINS' me darlin', me worm is all agog at the thought of baiting your hook;-)
Anna, let's see how many nibbles we get before booking anything. We can talk about it on the 10th.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 12:59 PM

Well if I can't throw up and tangle lines, I just won't go! Bet they'd expect me to bait my own hook too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 12:59 PM

"Woman can be so much more civilized."

Yeah, yeah. You forget, Anna that some of us have aready seen you in action!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: annamill
Date: 19 Jan 01 - 12:54 PM

I have a friend from whom several women friends and I rent a boat. We go out along the Jersey shore monthly in the summer. We pay about 35 -45 dollars and that includes the tip for the first mate. (Michael, the captains son). His boat only carries about 8 people though and we always have a ball. It's funny, but all his buddies think we're all gay. We bring shrimp cocktail and subs (that's grinders to you Yankees), (Dagos to you westerners), and beer and wine. If we go on a night trip, we bring candles and linen and have a wonderful dinner from what each person brings.

We have caught many fish and we share them, so noone goes away empty handed.

Woman can be so much more civilized.

Well, anyway, Bert, we can get him, but we have to book him in February or he's all booked up. It's only eight people at a time because it's a small boat. I don't like the big charters. Everyone just throws up and gets their lines tangled.

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Allan C.
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 01:04 PM

Bert, I am thinking a new thread might be in order for that idea. As much as I would want to participate, my current situation does not look promising in terms of allowing me to attend such an event. However, anything can happen between now and then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 01:01 PM

Will you bait my hook, Bert?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Allan C.
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:59 PM

Yep, LEJ. I shared a boat with a Hot$hit. He felt so bad about it that he even tied on a grotesque silver spoon lure that I had made for him from a real spoon as a sort of gag gift. A six-pound bass immediatly devoured the lure! I guess that took some of the sting out of my going home with an empty cooler that day.

Mm-m-m-m-m. Perhaps I should market that sucker...


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: GUEST,LEJ
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:48 PM

Were you ever in a boat with two other fishermen and you were the only one catching anything? When you catch the first one, everyone cheers and pat you on the back. The second one gets you a mild "alright". After that, the situation deteriorates rapidly. Soon, no one will speak to you. You try bizarre salt-water lures that are sure to frighten the average lake trout, and they hit it like it's the Special of the Day. Soon, your companions no longer net your fish for you, they grab your line and haul it up, swinging the flopping fish into your lap. You have to get your own beer, even though the guy in the middle is sitting on the cooler. They refer to you as "the Kingfish" or "Mr Hot$hit".

This has happened to me twice.

Mr Hot$hit


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:41 PM

OK, who's interested in a Mudcatter fishing trip along the New Jersey Shore, say early August? We could rent a boat for a day and sing in the evening.

If there's enough interest, I'll set something up.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: AggieBethie
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 12:08 PM

I don't know what you're talking about, but my dad and I had a little shallow water boat with a motor that his father left him and one of those tiny motors to use in shallow water. And we never used one of those electronic fish-finders. To me, that just takes all the fun out of fishing and it's almost like cheating (in some odd way)


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Allan C.
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 11:55 AM

Yeah, I see those guys all the time. I put them in the same class as tourists. They don't really understand fishing in it's purest sense. Theirs is a game of technology and numbers. The fishfinder locates the fish and then after a zillion casts (cast&crank, cast&crank, cast&crank...) one of the fish gets so pissed off that he attacks the bait just to make it stop! If none of the fish responds, then the "fisherman" powers off to another site, washing the shoreline with his wake. I can't tell you how many times I (in my canoe or in a friend's small boat) have had to battle the waves caused by one of these contraptions. It has just about put me off entirely from lake fishing.

The other piece of this is that I cannot fathom how so many people seem to be able to afford all of that high-powered equipment. I am always amazed when I see a huge bassboat parked in front of a tiny hovel of a house. But, then, I am always amazed at how many people seem to make far more money than I do.

Disclaimer: I know that I am exhibiting a large amount of prejudice here. I am aware that there are some bassboaters who behave responsibly. I just haven't seen a lot of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: AggieBethie
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 11:49 AM

lol... ya'll are funny. I love fishing! I grew up in Corpus Christi, Texas, and fished the Laguna Madre every weekend with my father. We would get up at 4am, go and gas up the boat and be on his favorite spot at sunrise. We had all his homemade poles, a bucket of shrimp and minnow, and a cooler with beer, Diet Coke, cheese, and homemade sausage. We would be out there going from spot to spot until we caught the limit. And of course, nothing beats sitting around on the porch, fish frying in the deep fryer, drinking and telling stories of the one that got away. By the way, red fish and speckled trout are my absolute Favorite! Yeah, that's the only thing I miss about my father, the bastard. :-) If anyone gets a fishing trip together in the south, I am sooo there. Gig'em!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 11:31 AM

I dunno' Allan. For you, I can understand that, but I've had lots of folks I know who are real nuts for bass fishing.........They all got a megabucks boat with a monster outboard, 17 tackle boxes, 3841 crankbaits, exotic rods and reels, and a pickup with 92 B.A.S.S. stickers covering it and they go out and blast off to some spot, troll along, cast a lot, work the bait.........And then after about 45 minutes of nothing, the rest of the day is spent with a nimber 8 over the side waitin' for a crappie.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Allan C.
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 11:13 AM

I used to ponder why I found fishing to be so attractive. Then one day I discovered the answer in a quotation which, I believe, came from Issac Walton and which I can only produce from memory:

"Fishing is the everconstant renewal of hope."

- just one more cast...maybe behind that rock...over there, at the edge of the shadows...maybe if I switched to a Hulapopper...perhaps a midge...maybe a chunk of squid...gobbaworms...if I cast over there in the shallows...or maybe at the head of the pool...just beyond the sandbar...maybe I should cruise the wrecks...perhaps if I wait 'til the tide changes...those lillypads look promising... and so it goes - each cast filled with hope and promise.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Jimmy C
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 10:40 AM

I was out again on Tuesday night, caught 3 ( 2 walleye and a large perch), The lake was a bit sludgy after a recent warm spell, but I will be out again tomorrow. Remember " A bad day fishing is better that a good day working".


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: walkinman
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 07:59 AM


Father forgive us

for what we must do

you forgive us

we'll forgive you

we'll forgive each other>br>
till we both turn blue

then we'll whistle

and go fishin' up in heaven

lyrics: John Prine


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 18 Jan 01 - 05:07 AM

STOP STOP STOP it boys...

you'll go blind...


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 01:15 PM

C'mon, Spaw. Just a nibble? What I like is when they slam your pole so hard it's bent nearly double.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 01:07 PM

I remember the first time I got a nibble on my worm.................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 12:52 PM

Well, how about an outing to the Natural History Museum? ou see the dinosaurs and the Giant Blue Whale. There - now we're back to fishing.

Just remembered a day of fishing off a bridge with my brother - not a nibble. He wanted to go home. I complained that I wouldn't leave until I at least got a nibble on my worm. Yup - he grabbed the swollen dead slimy thing and ate it. We went home.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 12:14 PM

No way on the rollercoaster. My insides are so messed up from the UC that I can barely sit still without feeling like my guts are going to fall out of either end of me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 12:04 PM

Matt - You have never ridden a roller coaster, never gone fishing???? Get your butt to NYC. We'll spend a day at Coney Island - the Cyclone is still voted the "Best Wooden Roller Coaster" in the world. Then we'll go fishing - surf or deep water, your choice. Anybody want to join us????


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: GUEST,Bob Schwarer
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 11:31 AM

Used to live in Gulf Breeze, FL, a piece of land sticking out between Pensacola and Pensacola Beach. This was back in the '60s before it got built up. They used to bribe you to build on the beach, but that's another story. The old US Navy live oak reserve is there. Used live oak for masts, etc. back in the wooden ship days.

Well anyway I used to get up early and hit the fishing pier on the beach before heading to work. Occasionally I'd get lucky and bag 3 or 2 Spanish Mackeral. Brought them home and left them in the sink for my wife to clean. Not to popular, but she's still my wife.

Don't know why I did that. It only takes a minute to clean one. I guess because I could. Those years on the beach were the best.

Could buy a house on the beach then for 6-7000. Ten times that now or more.

Bob S


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 11:13 AM

Well Matt, I don't care for it either, but you oughta' go get your worm wet.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 10:07 AM

I never fished in my life!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Gervase
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 09:50 AM

Dry fly on chalkstreams for me (if there was a heaven, it would have the Kennet or the Test running through it, and I'd be allowed to fish it!) - plus salmon on the Tweed when I'm lucky/feeling flush.
I used to like pike-fishing, using plugs and spinners, because pike are bloody good to eat - a wonderful delicate flavour. I got put off, though, when I opened one up to find a half-digested rat inside. Irrational and squeamish, I know, but there you have it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 17 Jan 01 - 09:26 AM

I go trout fishing every now and then with my dad.

We go to this lovely stream/small river in the middle of some woods, on a hillside, all covered with trees.

The water is crystal clear, and the very tranquil. The wildlife carrys on around you... and the whole thing is idyllic.

I can see the trout swimming past - there's plenty of them - and I can see my little fly as the little gits swim past it, ignoring it totally.

Now, all this silence is broken, til I loose it completely and try to charm my fish by singing at them. I often think it would be quicker to get in the water with them and tickle them out.. Rather than stand there with me rod, fly and wait for the thickest stupidest trout in the West to pass by.

Ella

My dad thinks I am nuts.... so do the fish.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 06:15 PM

Geez, I'd LOVE to make this gathering. We have wild and wooly Sins, Xenajeri...........Sounds exciting. But the best part would be watching Bert cast his "gear" off the dock into that cold water. I guess you must have some real long gear that hangs down pretty good Bert! I guarantee that afterwards you'll look like half a cockatail wienie and two raisins, but whatever turns you on.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: annamill
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 05:24 PM

It's whatever we want it to be, Sins. We are never formal. And this belongs on the other thread and I apologize.

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 05:24 PM

And Jeri is wearing her Xena costume.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 05:13 PM

Annamill - is this a barbeque? Mid February? I will wear my woolies and bring a steak.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Greyeyes
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 05:03 PM

Best women to what?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: FLUFF
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 04:51 PM

Come to ENGLAND best trout fishing in europe best women to


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 04:50 PM

OK. Anna, will do, mmmmm, looking forward to it. Get that grill fired up.

Hi again, SINS, yes they ignored the coastguard warnings, but I would have done the same myself - (tee hee).

But a few points in their favour, 1. They were out of the jurisdiction of any coastguard for most of their journey, and 2. by the time they'd have got in range of the US coastguard they'd have been pretty much home and dry. And 3. Regarding the seaworthyness of their ship, it is a steel vessel which has been afloat for fifty years. Whereas many modern ocean going racing yachts are unproven plastic boats. But they get no warnings. When i first read of the warning I thought it was just age discrimination and I still do.

Bert. (speaking as a boilermaker whose family has been involved in shipbuilding for generations)


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 04:41 PM

Great story, Dan. You didn't let him loose down the toilet, did you? We have terrible time with the ones in the NY sewer system.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 04:36 PM

The stream near my home runs through a couple of golf courses, public parks and a nature center. It borders public land and roadways and it forms the boundary of many people's backyards. There are a few very private places in its 5 or 6 mile length which are kept that way by overgrown undergrowth and other natural obstacles.

There is one pool I particularly like for the variety of fish it holds, its stillness and its isolation. I can fly fish there backhanded and crosshanded with a short rod standing in shorts on the clear sandy bottom with sunfish nibbling my toes.

I was there one day with a lure that I had seen kids using somewhere else a few days earlier. The lure intrigued me because it made such an unholy row and because of the violent topwater strikes that it induced from largemouth bass all over the water they were fishing. You're going to laugh if you've never seen one in action. It was 2 inches long and had propellers on it. One on the front, one on the rear with a hook trailing. I bought one and took it to the pool to try, chugging it along the weedline. On the 2nd cast, it sent a shockwave to the stomach of a basking pickerel which launched itself from shallow water towards the plug.

If you have ever seen a car accident and have been unable to affect the outcome, that is about the closest I can come to describing what it looked like as the fairly large pickerel created a moving submarine-like hump and wake in the water as it closed in on the lure. It seemed to take the fish 10 minutes to reach its prey but, in reality, it was a sprint of a second or 2. The meeting was unstoppable and the impact was immense and violent.

I let the little alligator go afterwards and marvelled at the tooth marks in my plug.

All the best,
Dan Milner


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: annamill
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 04:18 PM

Bert, bring your gear to the gathering. You can cast right off my deck. I've caught a few. Last was a weak (week, weke) fish. It was small, about 12 in, but good to eat. The Captain of the charter boat my friends and I go out on taught me how to cook and eat Sea Robins. They're really good. No more waste.

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 04:04 PM

As long as I am your "darlin'", it's ok if we disagree, Bert.
Their age wasn't an issue with me. It was their decision to ignore the warnings of the Coast Guard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 03:48 PM

I see your point SINS me darlin' - just don't agree with it, that's all.

Anyone who goes to sea is taking a risk. These guys had a fair sized ship and some were experienced mature (they were all mature) sailors. They knew the risks and were prepared to accept them.

It's not as if they were weekend sailors. I think that, just because they were old, people thought that they might not be competant.
Well the young gainsayers were proved wrong. So three cheers for old farts everywhere.

Emergency services put their lives at stake in many fields, from ski rescue, mountain rescue, fire departments, coastguards, police, and so on and so on. But I don't hear anyone say we should stop people from skiing or mountain climbing. Of couse it's mostly YOUNG people who go skiing and mountain climbing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 03:30 PM

They, I mean


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 03:26 PM

I know Bert. I am going to see my GYN about some hormones and herbs.

Still have this annoying little voice telling me that if these men had died doing it, several 20 and 30 year olds with families and years ahead of them would have had to risk their lives to try to save them. Of course, thay are paid to do it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Greyeyes
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 03:14 PM

Lonesome EJ:

Lovely description, only ever happened to me like that once, but that's just how it was.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 03:13 PM

Chacun a son gout.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 03:10 PM

Well Bert, if you love taking a good crap while singing "La Traviata"......that ain't much of a way to go.

Personal opinion mind you.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 03:06 PM

You're just crotchety SINSULL. Old has nothing to do with it. Those guys were old and they had the guts to go out there and do something.
They have learned that you can't stop living for the fear of dying.

They did what they set out to do, thus proving all the grumps to be wrong. But if they had died doing it, they would have died doing something they they loved. Is there a better way to go?

Bert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 02:57 PM

Is this a good place for me to talk about sailors versus fishermen, as in snagging lines on keels as we sail by?

Probably not.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 02:52 PM

TEE HEE.

I saw a news headline today about a group of ex-Navy men,70 + years old,who (against the advice of the Coast Guard) sailed a retired WWII ship from Europe to be used as part of a museum. A year ago I would have cheered them on. Now all I could think was "Great! Damn fools won't be satisfied to get themselves killed, they will drag Dave (the ancient mariner) down with them." Am I just getting old and crotchety?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 02:39 PM

Debbie McClatchey, that great singer-with-banjo, introduces one of her songs like this:

"Down in the southern mountains, we have a saying that men have two things they really, REALLY like to do, over everything else in the world.

The next-to-favorite is going fishing. [Pause}

The FAVORITE thing is to sit around, drink beer, and talk about going fishing!

Then she sings "It's my lazy day."

Dave Oesterreich


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