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BS: Fishing

GUEST,bert 14 Jan 01 - 12:15 PM
Mooh 14 Jan 01 - 12:44 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 14 Jan 01 - 01:50 PM
Sorcha 14 Jan 01 - 02:10 PM
Bert 14 Jan 01 - 02:16 PM
Bert 14 Jan 01 - 02:19 PM
paddymac 14 Jan 01 - 02:23 PM
SINSULL 14 Jan 01 - 02:34 PM
Greyeyes 14 Jan 01 - 02:41 PM
Cobble 14 Jan 01 - 02:49 PM
walkinman 14 Jan 01 - 02:50 PM
Benjamin 14 Jan 01 - 03:21 PM
black walnut 14 Jan 01 - 04:49 PM
Jimmy C 14 Jan 01 - 05:47 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 14 Jan 01 - 06:44 PM
Liam's Brother 14 Jan 01 - 07:21 PM
Allan C. 14 Jan 01 - 08:13 PM
wysiwyg 14 Jan 01 - 08:21 PM
Mark Clark 14 Jan 01 - 08:34 PM
Amergin 14 Jan 01 - 09:01 PM
Little Neophyte 14 Jan 01 - 10:06 PM
Jimmy C 14 Jan 01 - 10:21 PM
SINSULL 14 Jan 01 - 10:35 PM
john c 15 Jan 01 - 01:44 AM
GUEST,Ribbit 15 Jan 01 - 02:04 AM
okthen 15 Jan 01 - 05:21 AM
SINSULL 15 Jan 01 - 08:51 AM
Mooh 15 Jan 01 - 09:06 AM
Gern 15 Jan 01 - 09:11 AM
jeffp 15 Jan 01 - 10:33 AM
black walnut 15 Jan 01 - 10:38 AM
Bert 15 Jan 01 - 11:57 AM
Little Neophyte 15 Jan 01 - 12:22 PM
Bert 15 Jan 01 - 12:23 PM
black walnut 15 Jan 01 - 12:51 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 15 Jan 01 - 12:57 PM
Little Neophyte 15 Jan 01 - 02:17 PM
mousethief 15 Jan 01 - 02:27 PM
Bert 15 Jan 01 - 02:51 PM
Eric the Viking 15 Jan 01 - 03:50 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 15 Jan 01 - 06:09 PM
Little Neophyte 15 Jan 01 - 06:16 PM
Lonesome EJ 15 Jan 01 - 08:38 PM
catspaw49 15 Jan 01 - 08:56 PM
Dave Wynn 15 Jan 01 - 09:07 PM
Bert 16 Jan 01 - 01:08 PM
Mark Clark 16 Jan 01 - 01:34 PM
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Subject: Fishing
From: GUEST,bert
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 12:15 PM

Hi guys, any fishermen out there?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Mooh
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 12:44 PM

Yup, and I'm one of them. Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 01:50 PM

Bert, I fish but only salt water fishing... streams, rivers and lakes, No.. Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 02:10 PM

Bert's a GUEST!!! hee hee hee!!!
Dave, I believe you are also a "fisher of men....." of a sort?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 02:16 PM

Yeah! it's me. I'm posting from home and couldn't be bothered to reset my cookie.

And it's salt water for me too. I started the thread to demonstrate Mudcat to a neighbor who is an avid fisherman. He has a trailer at Sea Isle NJ. and I go down there once or twice a year and we fish and drink and fish and eat fish and drink.... You know how it goes.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 02:19 PM

The funny thing is that the folks at Sea Isle think that Skate is a garbage fish and they throw it away. They won't even allow it on their boats. Weird folks!

Bert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: paddymac
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 02:23 PM

Most skates and rays are good eating - and lots easier to skin after you cook 'em. Hmmm, good!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 02:34 PM

Salt water only. I love being out on the water more than catching the fish. Always want to throw them back so that they can tell all the other fishies about their adventures and near catastrophes above.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Greyeyes
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 02:41 PM

Chalk stream dry-fly in the south of England. Salisbury and District Angling Club, to be precise, tho' I'm living in Plymouth at the moment, which is a long way (by UK reckoning) from the nearest chalk stream, but whenever I can.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Cobble
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 02:49 PM

Standing at my favorite rocky spot at Greshornish on The Isle of Skye sea spinning, camera by my side nobody within a mile, sheeeeeer heaven.

Cobble dreaming of June or July.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: walkinman
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 02:50 PM

I have been blessed with some outstanding saltwater trips, mainly on two boats, the "Audacious" and the "June Rose".

Eight separate weeks on the "Audacious", our of Cabo San Lucas,Zihuatanejo,Panama(Tropic Star Lodge), Tortola BVI., Lyford Cay Bahamas, and Kennebunkport Maine.

Two separate weeks on the "June Rose" out of La Paz and Cabo.

Love to swap stories...

walkinman


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Benjamin
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 03:21 PM

I love fly fishing! My last trip got canceled though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: black walnut
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 04:49 PM

would you like to know if there are any fisherwomen?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Jimmy C
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 05:47 PM

I love to fish, at least once a week, when the saesons are open. IN the summer it's Lake ontario for salmon and lake trout. In winter it's lake Scugog for walleye, perch and rock bass. Was out last night on Scugog, 17 inches of ice. caught 5. Fried them up today. Great.

Have also fished Lough Neagh, The Shannon, The Moyola and the Bann in Ireland, also a few lakes and rivers in Scotland.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 06:44 PM

Sorcha, Those I catch and release the others I fry em and eat em... unless too small. LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 07:21 PM

Fishing? Yes! Fresh water. There is a stream and a river near my home in Connecticut. The stream is warm water with largemouth bass, perch, bluegill and pumpkinseed sunfish, pickerel (small pike), dace, golden shiners, eels, suckers and brown bullhead catfish. We have caught everything but eels. There are also beavers, snapping and painted turtles, and muskrats. The river has brown, rainbow and native brook trout.

Big Mick and I went fishing in Maryland during the last FSGW Getaway which was attended by many Mudcatters. I've also fished with Sandy Paton's son, Dave. They're both a lot of fun at the water.

I'm a retired airline employee and I have, in the past, fished once a year in various places in Iceland for brown and sea trout and for salmon. I was supposed to go to Co. Waterford, Ireland with Icelandic friends last year but illness in their family cancelled the trip.

I fish with lures, bait and fies. I don't have years of experience as a fly fisherman so my "luck" with that medium has more to do with whether or not I'm in the company of someone who can pick the proper bugs.

Chalk streams in southern England! Ice fishing in Ontario! Sounds great!

All the best,
Dan Milner


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Allan C.
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 08:13 PM

Anything, anytime, anywhere! I like it all. But in recent years I have discovered the same thing about fishing as I did about hunting: simply being there is far more important than the actual fishing or hunting. I do all of my hunting with my camera nowadays and would do the same about fishing if I had the scuba equipment, certification, etc..

I love eating the fish I have caught. Recipes? Nah! In my opinion there is nothing better for fish than salt, pepper, and butter. To me, anything else disguises the flavor rather than enhances.

So, Bert, when do we organize the First Annual Mudcat Party Boat?!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 08:21 PM

Hardi's a flycaster.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Mark Clark
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 08:34 PM

I love to go fresh water fishing. Never had the opportunity to try salt water fishing so I don't have any of the right tackle for it. I prefer using a good free spool bait casting reel and assorted spinner baits although I do use ultra light gear and tiny silver and white jigs for smallmouth over on the Wapsipinicon river.

I don't do much bait fishing or still fishing although it would be fun to learn all the details of bobber (float) fishing as practiced in the U.K.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Amergin
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 09:01 PM

I like going pub fishing from time to time.....when I'm feeling adventurous...


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 10:06 PM

I'm a pretty keen fisherlady.
I learned from my dad. He was the greatest fisherman of all. At the cottage I'd head out with my dad at the crack of dawn to go fishing. We would take along cold roast beef sandwiches and a thermos of something hot to drink for breakfast. I would fish for hours with my father. Other fisherman would wait until my dad headed out onto the lake. They wanted to see where he was going. My dad always knew where the fish were biting. Usually around some old sunken crib dock.
There were always live fish swimming in our bathtub and our fridge was stocked with worms and leeches. Usually the night before we would cook up some cornmeal to make mama ligga balls for catching fresh water pike. Some of the pike were so big you could pick them up right out of the water into your arms.
My dad also taught me how to scale and fillet a fish properly too. It is a disgusting job but someones got to do it.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Jimmy C
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 10:21 PM

Hi Walkinman, how's this for a true fishing story. Two years ago a friend of mine "Pedro" was ice fishing on Lake Scugog in Ontario. After drilling the hole (with a manual auger) through 14 inches of ice, he baited his short rod with a dead minnow, He then went over to a second hole to set up a tip-up with a live minnow. Glancing around he noticed his rod moving but was too late to prevent it going down the hole. Fortunately he had a spare. anyway about 2 hours later - the same hole he felt something nibbling on his bait, he carefully set the hook and drew the fish out of the hole, a 2.5 lb walleye with his missing rod still attached. I was not there that day but I do believe him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jan 01 - 10:35 PM

Oh Neo - you brought back some nasty memories of Chinese food cartons filled with huge worms in the refrigerator. I was punished and banned to the chum bucket every time I snarled myself in a paying customer's line. Spent a lot of time chumming.
My favorite time was the trip home after night fishing. I had a sleeping bag set up on top and was rocked to sleep with the stars.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: john c
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 01:44 AM

Dont want to spoil your fun - but isnt it handy that fish cant SCREAM? What other animal would you kill by dragging it along with a hook in its mouth until its too weak to put up a fight? Imagine a fish with vocal chords and imagine the sound it would make as you pull it out of the water. Or could it be that fish dont feel any pain??


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: GUEST,Ribbit
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 02:04 AM

By gee crow, hits a good ting dat vegetables can't talk eder. Himagine de cry of de wailing wheat as she is mowed down. Or de scream of de little baby cabbages. what about all de trees dat are cut down or de grass dat is mowed maybe dey want to scream too eh. Hi tink you carrying dis animal rights ting too far. Ribbit


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: okthen
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 05:21 AM

I don't think fish feel pain in the same way that we do,their senses come from audio, so I think shouting at them would cause more "pain" than the hook.I don't think singing quietly to them would do much good either.

I could however be totaly wrong.

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 08:51 AM

There was some quack on TV in the 70s who recorded the screams of flowers and vegetables as they were cut. It led to Soupy Sales "Save the radish" campaign.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Mooh
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 09:06 AM

Freshwater only, as I live in the cradle of the Great Lakes. I've got secret little spots around the Bruce Peninsula which will still cough up some nice smallmouth bass. The big perch are gone, but my Dad used to help us catch 'em when I was a kid...what passes for a jumbo these days is ridiculous.

Anyone want to set up a trip? Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Gern
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 09:11 AM

Yes I fish, and it's the only regular sporting act of cruelty I indulge in. Living in Indiana confines me to fresh water most of the time, although I've had fun trying my luck in salty places like Nassau and Orange Beach, FL and Oguncuit, ME. I'm strictly catch-and-release in fresh waters, because I don't enjoy bony meals. Ocean fish are another story. Overall, I find it an excellent excuse to drink outdoors.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: jeffp
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 10:33 AM

I love to fish, mostly freshwater. I keep trout and throw back most everything else. I've gone out on the Chesapeake Bay for rockfish (striped bass to everyone else) and went out on a party boat in Florida one time. I've done some flyfishing and had a little success, but flyfishing is fun even if you don't catch anything.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: black walnut
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 10:38 AM

i used to do a lot of fishing with my grandpa at Shand Dam...he would put on the minnows, and i would catch the perch. i fished until i started to feel sorry for the minnows.

~'nut


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 11:57 AM

Sorry Ladies. I'm such an old fart that when I learned English, back in the Middle Ages, we were taught that the word 'man' could be synonymous with 'mankind' and therefore it 'included' women. Women were something special and had a word that was exclusively for them.

I'm sorry that some have deemed it necessary to change the language since I learned it. But until us old farts all die out you'll have to live with the fact that some of us still remember how to speak English.

...'One short step for man'...

Bert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 12:22 PM

But Bert, I don't look like a fisherman. Even with waders on and all.
Being a fisherlady has its advantages too. When you have to pee, you get taken ashore and don't have to play that aiming distance game over the gunnels.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 12:23 PM

Actually, on the best of vessels they keep a bucket down in the cabin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: black walnut
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 12:51 PM

bert, i accept your explanation, hook, line and sinker.

~'nut


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 12:57 PM

Just out of interest did you know that in Discharge books it is written Seaman he/she etc......As Sir Winston said "Man embraces woman"


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 02:17 PM

Bert, I thought that bucket was for the boys to take a dump in. There is no way you are going to find me squatting over that bucket.
How about I make you a deal. You take me to shore and I will build a fire, make some beer batter and fry you up some mighty fine fish.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 02:27 PM

I fish. Therefore I am.

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 02:51 PM

Aha! beer batter. You've got me hooked!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 03:50 PM

Oh yes, when I get the chance (which isn't often nowadays) but I will fish for anything, anywhere I can. Sea, canal, lake, river, gravel pit, stream. Even take a short 4 metre whip on cycle tours!! Taken fishing rods to Spain, Malta, Greece, Holland, Belgium, France, Switzerland and collapsable rods almost evrywhere I go.

Maggots up!

tight lines all.

Eric


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 06:09 PM

Bert, best fish and chips are in Nova Scotia. My boat should be in the water by May if you come this way; and I have a flush toilet (head) aboard fer the ladies. Yours, Aye. Dave (MV Heart Of Oak)


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 06:16 PM

I have a funny story about fishing.
One time while fishing with my dad he got his pole snagged. I was dragging the boat backwards to help him loosen it up the line but something went wrong. Not sure what, but some how the pole fell into the water and sunk. My dad was terribly upset because that fishing pole cost him a lot of money. We were in a deep part of the lake. There was no way that pole was to be found.
The following year we were out fishing one day and my dad has something big biting. When he reels it in guess what he caught?
The old fishing pole. Can you believe it? We laughed so hard, I peed in my pants. Only time I should have used the bucket Bert.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 08:38 PM

There's nothing like sneaking up on a pool in a trout stream where you've spotted a big lunker surface feeding. You watch a fly flutter above the surface, and mentally try to match it to a dry fly pattern in your box. As you note that the wings are a slight blue tint, the body black, it lands upon the water and floats slowly into the vision of the trout. He rises slowly so as not to frighten the fly, then with a sudden jump and gulp he has his tasty morsel.

Your fingers tremble a bit as you tie your pattern on your tippet line, then, being careful not to throw a shadow or move your rod or line in the sight of the fish, you pump out some line and hold your breath as you release it, hoping the cast will be perfect, because you may not get another. You watch the fly land upon the stream gently, and float, displaying a slight, slow spin in the water with the vagaries of current, and it floats into the trout's feeding zone. Again you watch as the trout rises, looking closely at the fly, the moment of truth as he gulps it, the pressure of line, tension of rod, the thrill in connection.

Yeah, it's ok.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 08:56 PM

Well, I like getting my worm wet now and then but I don't give a damn about fishing.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 15 Jan 01 - 09:07 PM

What about those fishermen stories...I once caught a 42Lb trout on a size 30's hook and some spiders web.....took me 3 days playing the fish night and day , a real drama , took some pictures but would you believe they were lost by the photo processor....Still I know it happened...eh

Spot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Bert
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 01:08 PM

We were on this stern trawler at Rye (Sussex, England) that we'd rented for a day's fishing. Half a dozen working class guys dressed all scruffy for the occasion to do some real fishing.

We'd just got on the boat and were waiting for the captain to get his act together and get moving. When at the nearby launching ramp there arrives a real fancy speedboat bright metallic red, fancy stripes and the biggest outboard you've ever seen.

Two skinny young men and two gorgeous girls in skimpy bikinis. Well these you folks were really Putting on the Style strutting about and making quite a show of getting their boat into the water. They were making quite sure that everyone was watching their VERY expensive boat.

They finally get in the boat, but instead of heading slowly down the channel obeying the speed limit; they make a high speed full circle around the channel throwing up a huge wake. By this time of course all eyes were upon them. They go haring downstream right over the loading ramp which they have just used. There is this loud CRUMP as their outboard hits the concrete loading ramp. Then complete silence as they drift slowly out of control downstream with everyone watching them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Mark Clark
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 01:34 PM

And people say there's no justice. Thanks, Bert, you made my day with that one. Sound as though they may still be in the gene pool though.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 02:39 PM

Debbie McClatchey, that great singer-with-banjo, introduces one of her songs like this:

"Down in the southern mountains, we have a saying that men have two things they really, REALLY like to do, over everything else in the world.

The next-to-favorite is going fishing. [Pause}

The FAVORITE thing is to sit around, drink beer, and talk about going fishing!

Then she sings "It's my lazy day."

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 02:52 PM

TEE HEE.

I saw a news headline today about a group of ex-Navy men,70 + years old,who (against the advice of the Coast Guard) sailed a retired WWII ship from Europe to be used as part of a museum. A year ago I would have cheered them on. Now all I could think was "Great! Damn fools won't be satisfied to get themselves killed, they will drag Dave (the ancient mariner) down with them." Am I just getting old and crotchety?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fishing
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Jan 01 - 02:57 PM

Is this a good place for me to talk about sailors versus fishermen, as in snagging lines on keels as we sail by?

Probably not.

Spaw


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