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keberoxu 18 Oct 17 - 11:19 PM
GUEST 09 Apr 15 - 07:00 PM
GUEST,Truth-teller.com 13 Mar 12 - 11:56 AM
GUEST,abbey 21 Jun 10 - 03:16 PM
robomatic 02 Nov 09 - 11:12 PM
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Azizi 24 Jan 09 - 09:10 AM
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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 11:19 PM

The music period in elementary/grade school, where the chorus director taught us songs and had us sing them together,
she was partial to My Darling Clementine.

And certain students would sing My Darling Clementine as taught,
except for the name.

Oh, my daaaaa - rling FRANK-EN-STEIIIIIIIIIN!

The entire parody did no interest them. They just wanted to sing Frankenstein instead of Clementine. To make the chorus director cringe and the other students giggle.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Apr 15 - 07:00 PM

I'm a teenager, I learned these in 2nd and 3rd class, and I'm from North County Dublin, Ireland.
High ho, high ho, 'this off to school we go,
With bucket n' spade and a hand grenade,
High ho, high ho.

(From a South African exchange student)
Jingle Bells, jingle bells, Santa Claus is dead,
Teddy Bear, Teddy Bear, stabbed him in the head.
Barrie Girl, Barbie Girl, tried to save his life,
But Teddy Bear, Teddy Bear, stabbed her with a knife.
(I remember that kid getting in trouble for telling the infamous "sits in the corner and red all over" joke, so there might have been something up...)

(All from an older Scottish kid)
Good King Wencelas lookèd out
On the feast of Stephen
When a snowball gave him a clout, he shouted
"We'll get even!"

While shepherd washed their socks by night
While watching ITV,
The Angel of the Lord came down
And switched to BBC,
For the Angel of the Lord much preferred
BBC to ITV.

We three kings of Orient are,
One in a taxi, one in a car,
One on a scooter, blowing his hooted,
Smoking a big cigar.
O-oh star of wonder, star of light,
Sit on a box of Dynamite,
Pull the trigger, here we go-o-o
On our way to Mexico.

Also, a classic:
Crashing through the snow,
On a pair of broken skis,
Oh what fun it is,
Smashing into trees.
The snow is turning red,
I think I'm nearly dead, I woke up in the hospital
With stitches in my head.
Oh, Jingle Bells, Batman Smells, Robin laid an egg, the Batmobile, lost a wheel
And the joker got away, Oh...
Alternate second verse about Osama Bin Laden, but I learnt that somewhere else, and I'm not sure if it's authentic homegrown filth or a comedy YouTube vid. Ah well...


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,Truth-teller.com
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 11:56 AM

"Heigh Ho!, Heigh Ho!
We've joined the CIO
We pay our dues
To the dirty Jews
Heigh Ho!, Heigh Ho!"

This was also sung by the Cornell University Class of 1913 at their 1938 Reunion.
See page 3, of the ': Jewish Chronicle' for story 'Strictly Confidential' Date: 1938-08-05


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,abbey
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 03:16 PM

coco cola went to town diet pepsi knocked him down dr.pepper picked him up now we're drinking 7-UP 7-UP is full of stew now we're drinking mountain dew mountain dew fell off the mountain now we're drinking from the fountain fountain fountain it fell down now we're drinking from the ground ground ground now we're through now we're back to mountain dew mountain dew is full of smoke now we're back to drinking coke coke coke plain old coke case closed NOT!


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: robomatic
Date: 02 Nov 09 - 11:12 PM

to Stars and Stripes Forever:

"Be kind to your web footed friends
for a duck may be somebody's mother,
Be nice to your friends in the swamp
Where the weather is cold and dawmp
You may think that this is the end,
Well it is!"


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,gman
Date: 02 Nov 09 - 08:05 PM

just a slight variation of the hi ho

Hi ho hi ho
off to school we go
with hand grenades and rifles too!
hi ho Hi ho hi ho hi ho


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 05 Mar 09 - 03:31 PM

Here's a children's profanity avoidance rhyme that I had to read two times before I "got" it. Enjoy!

Subject: RE: I'm Rubber . You're Glue: Children's Rhymes
From: GUEST,Tom - PM
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 10:07 AM

Lemonade made in the shade and sold by Barnum Bailey.
A piece of ice in every glass as big as an elephant's
Ask your mother for 50 cents to see the monkeys sticking sticks up the elephant's
Hold on ladies! For those of you who can't swim the elephants are about to
Peanuts! 5 cents a bag!!

My grandfather (born 1922) used to quote this at the supper table after dinner. He was born, lived , and died in Berwyn, PA.

I'm Rubber You're Gue Children's Rhymes


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 24 Jan 09 - 09:10 AM

GUEST,Divanica, thanks for sharing the version you know of "Down Down, Baby".

Here's another Mudcat thread that contains some versions of that rhyme:

Down Down Baby-Race in Children's Rhymes


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,Divanica
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 06:06 PM

This is a clapping game my sister and I used to play.

Down Down Baby
Down by the Rollercoaster

Sweet Sweet Baby
Ill never let you go

Shimmy Shimmy cocoa pop
Shimmy Shimmy pow

Shimmy Shimmy cocoa pop
Shimmy Shimmy pow

I like coffee
I like tea
I like (insert name)
And he likes me!

So step back
black jack
you dont shine

I bet you five dollars
I can beat your behind!


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,Liz
Date: 29 Mar 08 - 09:40 PM

The version of Chinese Bakery. My best friend taught me thin when we were really little. We were in kindergarden and both of us loved clapping games like this. Its a little like what richd put up:

I went to a Chinese Bakery,
to buy a loaf of bread bread bread
He asked me what my name was,
and this is what I said said said
Ching chang Charley
I know karate
punch in the body
oops Im sorry
Chinese
Japanese
Look at these dirty knees
FREEZE


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Subject: RE: Parents dn't vst school / What Can the matter
From: GUEST,eye-rust
Date: 22 Feb 08 - 05:03 PM

The is a childrens song;

Oh dear what can the matter be
Oh dear what can the matter be
oh dear what can the matter be parents don't our school
they visit ???????
and they visit ??????????????
but parents don't visit our school


What are the ???????????

eye-rust wisc feb 2007


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 09 Feb 08 - 10:46 AM

Here's a couple of "teacher taunts" that were sent to my website:

Glory Glory Hallelujah
The version I learned in Monterey CA in the early 70s had a slight variation to the ones I see here; it concluded with Glory Glory Hallelujah, teacher hit me with a ruler. I hit her in the butt with a rotten coconut, and she ain't my teacher no more. Pretty uncouth, I suppose. As per the question of why did we sing it, well, some of my teachers were really mean. I don't ever remember have any intentions of violence towards them, of course, but to sing about burning down the school and hitting my teacher in the butt with a rotten coconut gave me a feeling of joy.
-Tim ; 2/4/08

****

From The Halls Of Maple
My personal favorite [rhyme] is one the children in my class wrote in grade four and having never encountered a version even similar anywhere, I'd guess we were actually creating a new one. Sung to the tune of the Marine Hymn: From the halls of Maple (our school) prison, to the shores of Bubblegum Bay We will fight our teachers battles with spits wads and red clay First to fight for longer recesses, and to keep our desks a mess We are proud to claim the title of the teachers little Pest.
-Susan S; 12/22/07 {Oregon}

http://www.cocojams.com/teacher_taunts.htm


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,Sdoran2
Date: 20 Jan 08 - 10:09 PM

Went to catholic grade school St Vincent De Paul Bedford IN in the 70's. The end of the song is "run run run I fear I hear a nun, grab the liquor and run! If a sister shall appear, say 'sister have a beer" in the cellars of old SVS. My brother thinks the song starts with "Give a cheer, give a cheer, to the boys who make the beer..."
If you know sdoran2@aol.com
Thanks


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jan 08 - 12:44 PM


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 18 May 07 - 02:50 PM

Thanks, GUEST,another college student and other guests & members for sharing your memories of rhymes on this thread.

I appreciate the fact that people are including demographical information with their examples.

It's interesting how so many of these rhymes are known in far flung places. It's also interesting to see the slight or the considerable differences that are found in different versions of the same rhyme over space and over time.

Special thanks, Guest another college student, for your Japanese handclap rhyme. It sounds like fun!

Btw, I don't know the "yellow, rocking/cradle?, cracker" rhyme.
Hopefully, somebody reading this will post a rhyme which will be the one you're thinking of.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: guitar
Date: 18 May 07 - 07:19 AM

Adam McNaughton made a tape/cd with school children songs on it it's called the Glasgow that I used to know.

Tom


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,another college student
Date: 18 May 07 - 07:06 AM

Honolulu, HI. Most between '94-'99 unless noted.

Hand-clap games:

Miss Mary Mack, Mack, Mack
All dressed in black, black, black
With silver buttons, buttons, buttons
All down her back, back, back

She asked her mother, mother, mother
For fifteen cents, cents, cents
To see the elephant, elephant, elephant
Jump over the fence, fence, fence

He jumped so high, high, high
He touched the sky, sky, sky
And didn't come back, back, back
'til the fourth of july, -ly, -ly
You lie!

Played with a partner. At the end, the person who shouts "you lie!" first is the winner.


A sailor went to sea, sea, sea
To see what he could see, see, see
But all that he could see, see, see
Was the bottom of the deep blue sea, sea, sea

Played with my mom quite a bit in elementary school. At sea/see parts, we'd raise our arms in a salute. I think she taught me this one. She grew up in the '60s.


There was another one I vaguely remember. I remember very few words: yellow, rocking/cradle?, cracker. Has anybody else heard something with those words? I remember the rocking part because the person's arms would form a cradle when the word was said.


Also Numbers. I remember playing it in high school, too.


Another one I learned in high school was from friends in 2004. They came to Hawaii from Japan. It can be played with as few as three people to a large group.

(The person beginning says their two-syllable nickname.) kara, hajimaru, 'ryzum' ni awa sete. This means that the person is starting and telling the participants to follow the rhythm they start. At the same time, everyone begins by patting their lap with both hands once, clapping once, snap right once, snap left once. Repeat all of this twice.
Then pat lap, clap, snap right, snap left again. At the right snap, the beginning person says another person's two-syllable nickname. At left snap, the numbers one through four in Japanese (ichi - one; ni - two; san - three; shi OR yon - four)
Pat lap, clap, snap right, snap left again. If ichi, at left snap person two says their two-syllable nickname.
Pat lap, clap, snap right, snap left again. If ni, at right snap and left snap person two says their nickname.
Pat lap, clap, snap right, snap left again. If san, at clap, right snap and left snap person two says their nickname.
Pat lap, clap, snap right, snap left again. If shi/yon, at all motions, person two says their nickname.
If successful, pat lap, clap, snap right, snap left again. At right snap, person two says yet another person's nickname, and so on.
If unsuccessful, the last successful person gets to start again.

(I really hope this is clear. It's a bit difficult since I haven't played this in a while.)


Rhyme:

Coca-cola went to town
Pepsi-cola shot him down
Dr. Pepper fixed him up
Now he's called 7-Up.

Learned this in kindergarten (very early '90s) from a girl volunteering there.


About mid-'90s at my younger brother's baseball games:

Row, row, row your boat
Roughly down the stream
Push the other team overboard
And listen to them scream
Ah!

Five days later
Chewing on their underwear
Wished they had another pair

Ten days later
Eaten by a polar bear
Oops, the polar bear died
Poor thing, not!


My grandpa taught us the following. He grew up in the '20s.

There's a hole in the wall
Where the people see it all
There's a place in France
Where the women wear no pants.

There's a Renaissance piece called "Hole in the Wall." A version of it is in harpist Laura Zaerr's book "Renaissance Rose." I don't think there's a connection, but it's a fun, upbeat piece.


Parodies:

Hi ho hi ho
it's off to work we go
with razor blades and hand grenades
Hi ho hi ho hi ho

hi ho hi ho
from work to home we go
with burned up butts and razor cuts
Hi ho hi ho hi ho...

Learned this from my younger brother maybe around 2000.


Here comes the bride
All dressed in white
Where is the groom?
He's in the dressing room.

Probably around '94-'97.


The first two lines of the following come from my harp teacher. The last two were my input. She wrote it so I could remember "Here comes the bride" when I play at weddings. My teacher went to early elementary school in the Mid-west then moved to Oregon. She's in her late 30s, I believe. First time I'm sharing the first bit outside of my teacher and a friend.

Here comes the bride
All fat and wide
Where is the groom?
He's in the dressing room.


Irritating:

Ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall,
Ninety-nine bottles of beer,
Take one down,
Pass it around,
Ninety-eight bottles of beer on the wall...

My friends and I used to try to sing this on the bus going back to school from field trips in third grade ('96-'97). We never got past ninety-five. Sometimes it was changed to 'pop' depending on the teacher.


This is a song that never ends,
It goes on and on my friends,
Some people started singing it
Not knowing what it was
And then they kept on singing it forever
Just because...


I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves, everybody's nerves, everybody's nerves,
I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves,
And this is how it goes...

I learned in high school that if you sing this in a very high pitch, it gets on people's nerves right away.


And remember Telephone? My grandpa loved playing this with my siblings and me.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: richd
Date: 06 May 07 - 02:30 PM

A variation on The Chinese grocer posted above, from south Wales:
I went to a Chinese fish shop
To buy a loaf of bread, bread bread
I wrapped it up in a five pound note
And this is what he said said said said.
My name is Elvis Presley
Girls are sexy
Sitting in the corner
Drinking Pepsi
Boys are wallies
Playing with the doliies,
Do me a favour drop dead.
What did you die of?
Raw Fish
What did you die like?
Like this
Blurgwaaaa-
(falls over )


Played in school currently.

And another one

Coca Cola, Coca Cola
Alabooshka, Alabooshka
Boys got the muscles,
teacher can't count,
Girls got the sexy legs
You better watch out.

Rich d.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,he he it's little me
Date: 03 May 07 - 09:58 PM

(to the tune of 'Mrs. Lucy')

My mother is an agent,
my father is a spy,
and I'm the little brat
who called the FBI


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 11:50 AM

connect me number nine and if u disconnect me ill kick you from behind the fridgerator theyre lay a piece of glass. mrs. susie sat upon it and broke her big fat ask me no more questions tell me no more lies the boys are in the bathroom zipping up their flys are in the meadow bees are in the park.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,hello
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 05:02 PM

buttcheeks


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Subject: Lyr: Add: Brr! It's cold in here {step chant}
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Jan 07 - 08:29 PM

BRR! IT'S COLD IN HERE

Brr! it's cold in here.
There must be some Alphas
in the atmosphere.
[I said-ah]
Brrr! it's cold in here.
There must be some Alphas
in the atmosphere.
-heard at various step shows

Editor: "Brrr" is meant to approximate the sound a person makes when he or she is freezing cold. "Alphas" refer to members of Alpha Phi Alpha, Inc, a Black Greek letter fraternity.

"Ice Ice" is an Alpha signature chant that also references this "cold" theme:

Ice Ice, Baby
Ice ice baby,
too cold too cold.
Ice ice baby,
The black and gold
-various sources,

-snip-

The "black and gold" refers to that fraternity's colors.

**

If you are interested in reading more about the nine African American fraternities and sororities that are members of the National Pan-Hellenic Council, click The National Pan-Hellenic Council, Incorporated

if you are interested in reading selected examples of African American fraternity or sorority chants or posting additional examples, and/or finding links to selected YouTube videos of AA Greek letter steppin & strolls {party walks}, check out my website http://www.cocojams.com/


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Subject: RE: cheers
From: GUEST,Clo
Date: 20 Jan 07 - 11:37 AM

2 4 6 8 who do we appreciate???
Manchester, Manchester
Oh no that's wrong lets go ………… sing this song
…………, ……………



2 4 6 8 who do we appreciate???
Not the king, not the queen
We support the …………. team!!!


burn, it's cold in hear
There must be some ………….. In the atmosphere
I said eo eo eo
ice ice ice
eo eo eo
ice ice ice
I said burn, its cold…


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 28 Dec 06 - 08:43 PM

GUEST,Looking for sally's steamboat,

check out this post in this thread GUEST
Date: 14 Oct 06 - 11:11 PM

and there are many other examples of this rhyme on other Mudcat threads and on this website: http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php

Usually the woman's name isn't Sally, though.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,Looking for sally's steamboat
Date: 28 Dec 06 - 08:39 PM

I was driving in my car with my tow boys singing songs with them. I remembered a song I herd when Iwas a child . It goes sometihing like this......
Sally had a stam boat
the steam boat had a bell
Sally went to heaven and
the steam boat went to
Hello operator?????????
If anyone can help me finish that would be great....


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 09:30 PM

AZIZI!!!

Thank you for collecting at http://www.cocojams.com

Duplication is good. Because, at some point a collection may be lost. It is always good to backup the oral traditions. It is also good, like at your site, to catalogue genre.

I will be adding some more to your page, from what I already have.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 01:34 PM

Gargoyle, thank you for acknowledging my interest in children's rhymes.

Needless to say, many Mudcat threads on children's rhymes were started long before I heard of this online community.
That said, I'm pleased to join you & other folks here and elsewhere who recognize the importance of collecting, preserving, studying, sharing, and enjoying examples of children's rhymes, cheers, and chants.

Here's an example of a "teacher's taunt" from my website www.cocojams.com . Actually this example is probably a combination of several teacher's taunts. I'm also including a portion of the poster's response to my emailed questions seeking demographical information and asking her about the meanings of the examples she sent in to that website.

Note: I've not corrected any typos or punctuation errors as in my opinion doing so would detract from the authenticity of the example.

The Story of The Burning Of The School
"Here is the story of the burning of the school. Iv broken every teacher and Iv broken every rule I BBQed the princeable and cooked the pizza yaaa and the kids go marching on. Row row row your boat gentaly down the stream throw your teacher overboard and listen to her scream 5 weeks later she was floting down the Delawar chewing on her underwear wish she had another pair 10 weeks later she was eaten by a poler bear and thats how the poler bear died On top of old smokey all covered in sand I shot my old teacher with a red ruber band I shot her with plesher I shot her with pride o how could I miss her she was 40 feet wide I went to her funaral I went to her grave when people threw flowers I threw a gernade then on the news they said shes alive o how I wish that teacher would die Glory glory hallelujah teacher hit me with a ruler poped her in the bean with a rotten tangareen and she aint gana teach no more

-Davonna; 7/15/2006

Davonna's comment:
"I am an african american 13 year old girl. at the moment I am in japan. That is were I learned the song. yes my teachers get on my nerves but I would never do any thing like whats in the songs to my teachers. The songs are funny.thats the only reason I like them.

Also (I have e-mailed before) there are teacher taunts here in japan. I learned teacher taunts from a 10 year old. the year is of course 2006. No one would realy kill there teachers or hang them. they are just for fun."


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Scoville
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 11:32 PM

[Denver, Colorado, early 1980's, from my music teacher. We used the same clapping pattern described below with "Miss Suzy". I ended up teaching the elephant/door verse to two little girls who were waiting for their dog to be seen at the vet clinic where I used to work here in Houston; they knew the other two verses already but not the door one.]

Miss Mary Mack, Mack, Mack,
All dressed in black, black, black,
With silver buttons, buttons, buttons,
All down her back, back, back.

She asked her mother, mother, mother,
For fifteen cents, cents, cents,
To watch the elephant ...
Jump over the fence...

He jumped so high...
He touched the sky...
and didn't come back...
'til the fourth of July, -ly, -ly.

She asked her mother ...
for five cents more...
to watch the elephant...
slide down the door...

he slid so low...
he stubbed his toe...
and that's the end...
of the elephant show...

*****

[From Denver, Colorado, mid-1980's. I learned them from a white kid but the neighborhood was about 80% black and I don't know where he learned them]

. . . met her at the bank with a Sherman army tank . . .

*****

We did "Miss Suzy" as a clapping rhyme, minus the underpants part. Two girls sat across from each other and clapped as fast as they could without messing up: Hands together, right hands together across, hands together, left hands together across, hands together, both hands together across, hands together, repeat.

*****

On top of Old Smoky, all covered in blood,
I shot my poor teacher with a .44 slug.

I went to her funeral, I went to her grave,
Some people threw flowers, I threw a grenade.

I looked in her coffin, she wasn't quite dead,
So I took a bazooka and blew off her head.

*****

Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to school we go,
With hand grenades and razor blades, Hi-ho, hi-ho.

Hi-ho, hi-ho, I bit the teacher's toe,
She bit me back, that dirty rat, hi-ho, hi-ho.

*****

[From Houston, Texas, early 1990's. Very white kids]

Sherman, what have you done to me?
Sherman, oh, Sherman, can't you see--
Sherman, you put your sperm in,
And now it's Sherman and Herman and me.

(to that tune they always use in movies about summer camp. I don't know what it's called, but kids are always whistling it.)

*****


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 10:58 PM

Thank You - COLLEGE STUDENT!!!!

DEAR - RANDOM C.S.

This is a very worthwhile contribution and probably falls closely in line with the threads Azizi has been gathering.

For the purposes of combined memory - could you also note:
Approximate Date (era)
Geographic Location (gps not necessary)
Interesting observations or side-notes, thoughts.
Age group involved

Thanks again for a most noteworthy contribution to the collection.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,Random college student
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 07:26 AM

I thought of a few more:

(A clapping game that we used to have contests at recess with. Everyone stood in a circle and you had to move your hand out of the way before you got hit on "boo", otherwise you were out. When it got down to two people, it became a sort of tug of war.)
Down by the riverside, the hanky panky side
East side, West side, hanky panky side
A E I O U Bamboo!

(Another clapping game)
A sailor went to sea sea sea
to see what he could see see see
But all that he could see see see
Was the bottom of the great blue sea sea sea

Some bus songs:
"There was a bear..."

Bubblegum song "My mommy gave me a penny, and told me to buy a henny...)

A ricky bamboo (a ricky bamboo)
Now what is that? (now what is that?)
It's something made (it's something made)
By the Princess Pat (by the Princess Pat)
It's red and go-old (It's red and go-old)
And purple, too (and purple, too)
That's why it's CALLED! (that's why it's CALLED!)
A ricky bamboo (a ricky bamboo)
Now Captain Jack (now Captain Jack)
Had a mighty fine crew (had a mighty fine crew)
He sailed across (he sailed across)
The ocean, too (the ocean, too)
But his ship did sink (but his ship did sink)
And yours will, too (and yours will, too)
If you don't HAVE! (if you don't HAVE!)
A ricky bamboo (a ricky bamboo)
[repeats from the top]


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,Random college student putting off her essay
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 06:54 AM

We had "Miss Suzie", "Heigh ho, heigh ho, it's off to school we go", and "Great big globs of greasy grimey gopher guts" in southeastern Wisconsin in the 90's. Here's a few more:

(to sing on a school bus)
Hail to the bus driver, bus driver, bus driver
Hail to the bus driver, bus driver man!
He drinks and he cusses and stinks up the buses.
Hail to the bus driver, bus driver man!

(a few to figure out who's it, by tapping people's toes)
Train train number 9 going down Chicago line
If the train should jump the track, do you want your money back?
Y-E-S and that spells yes!
(or)
N-O and that spells no!

Mickey Mouse built a house, how many bricks did he use?
(the person who's toe you land on picks a number, then the person reciting the rhyme counts to that number, and the final person landed on is it)

Bubblegum, bubblegum in a dish, how many pieces do you wish?
(works the same as Mickey Mouse above)

Eenie, meenie, miny, moe
Catch a tiger by the toe
If he hollars let him go
Eenie, meenie, miny, moe
My mother says that you are not it
Not because you're dirty, not because you're clean
But just because you kissed a boy behind a ma-ga-zine!
(there was another alternate line about a "dirty dirty dishrag on your big toe", too)

(to be sung on busses)
Give me a long M! EMMMMMM!
Give me a short M! EM!
Don't give me no pop, no pop, don't give me no tea, no tea, just give me that milk, moo moo moo moo, Wisconsin milk, moo moo moo moo.
(On the moo moo moo moo part, one person would lock their fingers together and turn their hands palms outward with their thumbs hanging down, and the other person would "milk" the thumb-utters. They'd switch for the second moo moo moo moo)
(This repeats for all the letters of the word 'milk', then...)
Give me a long milk! CHOCOLATE!
Give me a short milk! SKIM!
Don't give me no pop, no pop, don't give me no tea, no tea, just give me that milk, moo moo moo moo, Wisconsin milk, moo moo moo moo.

(some Christmas themed ones)
Jingle Bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg
The batmobile lost its wheel and Joker got away (or took ballet)
Batman's in the kitchen, Robin's in the hall, Joker's in the bathroom, peeing on the wall...(there was more, but I don't remember the rest)

Joy to the world, the teacher's dead.
We barbacued her head!
What happened to the body? We flushed it down the potty!
And round and round it goes, and round and round it goes,
forever and ever around it goes!

(A Barney one)
I hate you, you hate me,
we chased Barney up a tree.
With a 44 caliper shot him in the head,
aren't you glad that Barney's dead.

(This one has a little tune to it, although I don't know what the tune's name is.)
There's a place in France where the naked ladies dance.
There's a hole in the wall where the men can see it all.
But they don't care because they're eating underwear.

(To pop the head off a dandelion, you recite this)
Mama had a baby and her head popped off!

(an old classic)
Comet, it makes your teeth turn green.
Comet, it tastes like gasoline (alternately: vaseline)
Comet, it makes you vomit,
So buy your comet, and vomit, today!

(Songs that never end)
This is the sone that never ends,
It goes on and on my friends (alternately: it was made to annoy my friends)
Some people started singing it no knowing what it was, and they'll continue singing it forever just because (repeats from beginning)

I know the song that gets on everybody's nerves
I know the song that gets on everybody's nerves
I know the song the gets on everybody's nerves
And this is how it goes (repeat from the beginning)


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,Urbane Guerrilla
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 10:52 PM

Goodie, I get to add a quantum to the trivia pile:

"Kaiser Bill went up the hill
To take a look at France.
Kaiser Bill came down the hill
With bullets in his pants."

Sung to a shaved-down edition of "Jack and Jill Went Up the Hill."

Interestingly, this one was mutated among elementary school children in Rapid City, South Dakota sometime before about 1969 to "Custer Bill. . ." It is plausible the kids picked "Custer" after the fairly nearby Black Hills town of Custer, which they had heard of, rather than the alien word "Kaiser."

Turning to the Colonel Bogey March lyrics: I've seen in print, can't remember where:

"Hitler -- has only got one ball!
Rommel -- has two, but they are small.
Himmler -- his are dissimilar,
And poor old Goebbels, has no b'lls, at all!"

That's my favorite version of the verse, for the sheer Britishness of the rhyme for Himmler. I know the last line does not need the commas, but we know where the rests are.

It's a matter of historic record that the British prisoners of war on the Railway of Death substituted Japanese officials' names -- though they didn't let the Imperial Japanese Army in on it!

Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory tail-enders I heard in late 1960s elementary school ran:

"...met her at the gate/With a loaded .38..."
"...met her at the door/With a loaded .44..."
"...met her in the attic/With a German automatic..."


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 09:01 AM

Correction-

"And in almost 10 years of active collecting I have never seen it [Miss Susie Had A Steamboat] performed by Black children and no Black child or adult who I've asked has ever admitted any knowledge of it."


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 08:58 AM

Hello, Guest 14 Oct 06 - 11:11 PM.

Thanks for sharing that example.

Regarding "showing your underwear" at the end of the Miss Susie Had A Steamboat" rhyme, that's the first time I've read that ending.
I'm hoping you're still around and will share when [decade] and where [city, state, nation if outside the USA], you performed that rhyme or saw this rhyme performed that way.

And-also for the folkloric record-I'm also curious to know what you meant by "underwear".

From what I've read, it's usually girls only who "do" Miss Susie as two partner handclap rhyme.*

Where I live {in Pittsburgh, PA}, from at least the 1980s, most girls [except in Catholic schools} routinely wear pants to school all seasons that schools are open.

The idea of showing one's underwear might be less risque if the girls were only tugging their pants down a slight bit so that the tops of their panties could be seen. But if they were lifting up their dresses and skirts to show their panties, that would be MUCH more daring. And it would be even more risque if these girls were lifting up their shirts or blouses so people could see their tee shirts or any training bra or 'real' bra they had on.

*I wrote "read" because I have never observed this rhyme performed. African American children in Pittsburgh, PA area are my primary direct contact/observation collection group for children's chants, cheers & rhymes. When I ask Black children in Pittsburgh area about this rhyme using the title "Miss Susie {or Miss Lucy}, I've found no African American girl or boy-Black adult for that matter in this area who knows it. Unfortunately, I haven't done any comparison research with non-Black Pittsburgh area children, youth, or adults. Also, "Miss Susie had a steamboat" isn't familiar to me from my childhood/teen years in [Southern] New Jersey.

I'm wondering if this rhyme is less known among Black Americans than White Americans. I've found race to be a factor in how certain rhymes are performed and whether they are known to specific populations of children. For instance, for what it's worth, the gross me out rhymes like "Great Big Globs of Greasy Grimey Gopher Guts" appear to be very widely known among White children [as evidenced by this and other Internet sites that post children's rhymes]. However, I have no recollection of that rhyme or those types of rhymes. And in almost 10 years of active collecting have I ever seen it performed by Black children and no Black child or adult who I've asked has ever admitted any knowledge of it. Ditto for taunting rhymes directed at teachers such as "Glory Glory Hallelujah" or "Joy To The World". I'm wondering if Miss Susie Had A Steamboat" is also placed in the rhyme category of "usually not known by African American children {living in all or predominately African American urban areas}.

I'd love for others to add any experiencial confirmation or refution of my sense that the "Miss Susie Had A Steamboat" rhyme and the others I mentioned are known or not known by Black Americans as well as non-Black Americans.

As I indicated earlier in this post, I'm interested in this aspect of race as a factor of which rhymes children know for the folkloric record.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Oct 06 - 11:11 PM

Miss Susie:
Miss Susie had a steamboat.
The steamboat had a bell,
Miss Susie went to heaven,
her steamboat went to hell..
..o operator. give me number nine.
And if you disconnect me,
I'll kick you from behind
..The fridgerator,
there was a piece of glass.
Miss Susie fell upon it,
And cut her little ass..
..k me no more questions.
Tell me no more lies,
The boys are in the bathroom,
zipping up their flies..
..live in the city
bees live in the park
Miss Susie and her boyfriend
are kissing in the d-a-r-k, d-a-r-k,
dark, dark, dark
..er than the ocean,
darker than the sea,
darker than the underwear
my mommie puts on me.
See?!?! (showing your underwear!)


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: dulcimer42
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 10:45 PM

Here's one I remember from the early 50's in Michigan

Cheers, Cheers for old Kearsley High
We like our whiskey, we like our rye
Send old (principal's name) out for gin
And don't let a sober teacher in.

We never stagger, we never fall
We sober up on wood alcohol.
And the royal faculty
Lies out on the ?? floor.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: dulcimer42
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 10:29 PM

We always did "Eenie Meenie Miney Mo," back in the 50's in Michigan., but after the last line of Eenie aMeenie Miney Mo, if the one doing the picking didn't like who ended up being 'it,' he would add "and you are not it," which gave the honor to the opposite person.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 10:11 PM

Sorry, here is the link for that Octoblog website's Schoolyard games thread :

http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php

Btw, it appears that many of the posters on that thread are kids or teens which makes reading their versions and comparing them with older versions of this rhyme all the more interesting.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 10:06 PM

Hello, Guest Amber.

There are numerous versions of Miss Susie Had A Steamboat.
Btw, the name given for the woman in these profanity avoidance rhymes is sometimes Ms. Susie; Miss Suzie, Miss Lucy, Miss Molly and probably more. In these rhymes Miss Susie {or Miss, Ms, Mrs somebody} had a steamboat, or a tug boat or {as you wrote} a sail boat.

Usually Miss Susie is recited by girls who are doing handclaps.

Here are two versions of that rhyme from href="http://octopuses.chaoticinsanity.com">http://octopuses.chaoticinsanity.com :

Miss Susie had a tug boat, her tugboat had a bell, Miss Susie went to heaven her tug boat went to HELL...o operator please give me number nine, and if you disconnect me I'll cut of you're behind the 'fridgerator there lay a piece of glass Miss Susie sat upon it and cut her little ASS...k me no more questions, I'll tell you no more lies the boys are in the bathroom zipping up their flies are in the meadow, the bees are in the park, Miss Susie and her boyfriend are kissing in the D-A-R-K, D-A-R-K, dark dark dark. The dark is like the movies, the movies' like the show, the show is like tv and that is all I know know know, I know I know my ma I know I know my pa, I know I know my sister with the 49'rs bra. The bra is for the boobies, the boobies for the milk, the milk is for the babies with diapers made of silk.
-Kristeena at June 7, 2003

****

Miss Susie had a steamboat,
the steamboat had a bell ding ding,
the steamboat went to heaven,
Miss susie went to
hello operator,
give me number nine,
and if you disconnect me,
I'll chop off your
behind the refrigerator
there lay a piece of glass
Miss susie sat upong it
and broke her little
ask me no more questions
tell me no more lies
the boys are in the bathroom
zipping up their
flies are in the city
bees are in the park
Miss susie and her boyfriend
are kissing in the
d-a-r-k
d-a-r-k
d-a-r-k
dark dark dark
the dark is like the movies,
the movies like the show
the show is like the tv set
and that is all i know know know
i know i know my ma
i know i know my pa
i know i know my sister
with the sixty dollar, sixty dollar sixty dollar bra bra bra
my mother is godzilla
my father is king kong
my brother is the stupid one
who made up this song
my mother gave me a nickel
my father gave me a dime
my sister gave me a boyfriend
his name was frankenstein
he made me do the dishes
he made me wash the floors
he made me clean his underweard
then i kicked him out the door
i kicked him over london
i kicked him over france
i kicked him over hollywood and he lost his underpants
-Erin, April 19, 2004

There are a number of Miss Susie Had A Steamboat examples on that website's Schoolyard games thread.

Also, if you're interested, check out my website http://www.cocojams.com for more examples & comments about Miss Susie Had A Steamboat and other handclap rhymes, cheerleader cheers, and more.

Best wishes,

Azizi


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,amber
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 06:54 PM

where is Mrs susie??? does anybody know the lyrics Mrs susie had a sailboat the sailboat had a bell Ding ding miss susie went to Heaven the sailboat went to hello operator give my #9 and if you Disconectt me i'll kick you in the thigh what is next?


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Subject: Lulu had a baby
From: GUEST,Flash Company
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 04:29 AM

Sorry to take so long in thanking you for the other verses to the Lulu had a baby song. Was i right in that Alan Breeze sang this on the Billy Cotton Bandshow at Sunday lunchtime? You obviously remember more of the song that me.

Cheers.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 03:48 AM

Hi, this is Caro. I'd forgotten my original post but was looking again on the net for my daughter who wants me to write down all the songs i used to sing to her and now to my granddaughter. I don't know what you mean by an ABC of the tune. I have another song at the back of my mind which is trying to come to the front (!!!) however, today my family is getting together and some of us haven't met for 20 years or so. One of my cousins will be there and she will bound to know (and remind me) of songs we sang.

I'll check in more promptly from now on. lol

btw I am from the UK.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 01:23 PM

Caro from March '05, are you still checking in?

Would love to have an ABC of the tune to "Mary-Anna at the pawnshop door" -- can you do it for us?

I haven't been able to find it anywhere, so you're the only hope.

Thanks! Bob


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 09:16 PM

I've seen these terms used by adults to categorize children's playground rhymes where the last remaining child is selected as the seacher for hide & go seek, or {saying the rhyme two times in succession} the last two children become the team captains:

choosing "it"

counting out rhymes

elimination rhymes

****

Note that contrary to some books I have read, it seems to me that more often than not children want to be choosen as "it".

BTW: when the two team captains are chosen, one at a time they chose members of their team by calling out the name of the remaining children. I believe that it still hurts to be the last child or one of the last child selected. When the children I meet with choose team captains, they use a choosing it rhyme like:

Eenie meenie
minie mo
catch a tiger by the toe
if he hollers let him go
ee-nie meen-ie min-ie mo.

The children huddle close together in a semi-circle type formation. The child who selects the captains {because he or she raised his hand first and me or another adult picked him or her] stands in front of the other children. Each child in the semi-circle extends his or her right foot forward. On each word {or in the case of the last line, on each syllable} the "leader" points to each successive child's foot. The leader can not skip a child or add additional words or syllables. The child who the leader is pointing to on the word "mo" {pronounced "moh"} is out and the rhyme is repeated until there is only one child left. That child is "it" or [in the case of competitive games with two teams-one of the team captains]. The same "leader" then starts the rhyme again with the remainding children to pick the second team captain.

However, when that game [such as relay races]is played, and the group has time to play that game again, the way we do it in my groups is that the two new captains are the two children who were picked last.

I think doing this helps build those last picked children's
self-esteem.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: GUEST,thurg
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 07:44 PM

What is the term given to the rhymes/verses/sayings used to choose who will or will not be "it" in a game? Is that what is meant by "counting out rhymes" (cf. previous post)?


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: NH Dave
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 03:07 PM

For those in the US interested in collected children's songs, doggerel, and counting out rhymes, try to find a copy of Miss Mary Mack all Dressed in Black a collection of songs kids sang in northern Vermont in the early 20th century. These songs, collected by Scott E. Hastings, give us a look at folk links back to England, Ireland, and Europe, the source of much of our current population.

Scott's been dead for a few years now, so the best place to look for this book is on Amazon, where I found my copy.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 10:04 AM

Thanks, Jeri.


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 09:00 AM

Azizi, your website is wonderful!


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 08:31 PM

Here is another example of "Miss Sue" that was submitted to my website Cocojams by darlenevil on 2/1/2005 along with the following comments:

Hi:-) I just wanted to submit a very popular version of the
'handclap rhyme' song "Miss Sue From Alabama".
I lived in Indiana my whole life although I changed schools alot, and this song seemed to be known by every other African American child I met. Here's how we all sang it:

Miss Sue! *clap clap*
Miss Sue! *clap clap*
Miss Sue from Alabama
Her real names Suzyanna
Sittin in a rockin chair
Eatin Betty Crocker bread
Watchin the clock go
Tick tock tick tock Banana rock!
Tick tock tick tock Banana rock!
A-b-c-d-e-f-g Wash them spots right offa me!
Moocha Moocha Moocha Freeze!

*literally freeze on the last clap,
try to stay still longer than your friend


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Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!
From: Azizi
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 08:20 PM

Jeri,

I hope that GUEST,3rI responds to your question. It will be interesting to hear what she or he says about whether that rhyme is done with handclap routines like others I've collected that "sound" like it.

Imo, the rhyme that guest 3rI shared sounds like the "Miss Sue From Alabama" rhymes.

Here's an example that was sent to me from Deena Garrison-Stevensen {Northern California, as recited by her 6 year old girl and other children in the playground}

MISS SUE
Miss Sue
Miss Sue from Alabama
Her real name is Susanna
Sittin' in the rocking chair
eating baby crackers watching the clock go
Tick tock tick tock bananna rock, tick toc, tic toc bananna rock
A-B-C-D-E-F-G wash those spiders off of me,
Mooscha, Mooscha, I want my mommy
Mooscha mooscha I know karate
Mooscha moosch oops I am sorry
Mooscha mooscha FREEZE!

****

The "eating baby crackers" is usually given as "eating Betty Crocker" {meaning the pastry made from the directions that the famous cookbook editor Betty Crocker provided}

For another variant of this rhyme, see this example that I collected from African American girls and boys, ages 5-12 years, Pittsburgh, PA area, 1999:

MISS SUE, SCOOBY DOO
Miss Sue, Scooby Do
Miss Sue from Alabama
Sittin at the table
peeling mashed potatoes
waitin for the clock to go
boom tick tock
boom ticky wally wally
boom tick tock
boom ticky wally wally
Stop!
Ah 2 more times
boom tick tock
boom ticky wally wally
boom tick tock
boom ticky wally wally
Ah 1 more time
boom tick tock
boom ticky wally wally
boom tick tock
boom ticky wally wally
Ah no more times.

---

Btw, a lot of children's rhymes end with FREEZE! Of course, this means to immediately stop movement {usually maintaining a dramatic pose until the rhyme starts again}.


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