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BS: Goodbye

alison 18 Oct 00 - 03:38 AM
ddw 17 Oct 00 - 11:49 PM
GUEST,Joerg 17 Oct 00 - 09:15 PM
DougR 17 Oct 00 - 06:36 PM
InOBU 17 Oct 00 - 04:48 PM
Jon Freeman 17 Oct 00 - 03:15 PM
Naemanson 17 Oct 00 - 02:50 PM
GUEST 17 Oct 00 - 09:47 AM
rabbitrunning 17 Oct 00 - 09:21 AM
Jon Freeman 17 Oct 00 - 09:02 AM
SINSULL 17 Oct 00 - 08:51 AM
McGrath of Harlow 17 Oct 00 - 08:46 AM
kendall 17 Oct 00 - 06:55 AM
Lonesome EJ 17 Oct 00 - 02:27 AM
Liz the Squeak 17 Oct 00 - 02:22 AM
Sorcha 17 Oct 00 - 01:50 AM
Lonesome EJ 17 Oct 00 - 01:37 AM
DougR 17 Oct 00 - 12:45 AM
Sorcha 17 Oct 00 - 12:05 AM
hesperis 16 Oct 00 - 11:42 PM
GUEST,Joerg 16 Oct 00 - 09:39 PM
kendall 16 Oct 00 - 09:22 PM
wysiwyg 16 Oct 00 - 06:16 PM
Biskit 16 Oct 00 - 06:09 PM
SINSULL 16 Oct 00 - 04:40 PM
wysiwyg 16 Oct 00 - 04:40 PM
kendall 16 Oct 00 - 04:22 PM
Biskit 16 Oct 00 - 04:03 PM
SINSULL 16 Oct 00 - 01:27 PM
Troll 16 Oct 00 - 01:18 PM
Troll 16 Oct 00 - 01:15 PM
GUEST 16 Oct 00 - 01:09 PM
annamill 16 Oct 00 - 01:05 PM
McGrath of Harlow 16 Oct 00 - 12:35 PM
SINSULL 16 Oct 00 - 12:02 PM
Biskit 16 Oct 00 - 11:21 AM
wysiwyg 16 Oct 00 - 11:14 AM
Biskit 16 Oct 00 - 11:14 AM
Liz the Squeak 16 Oct 00 - 11:13 AM
kendall 16 Oct 00 - 10:49 AM
kendall 16 Oct 00 - 10:41 AM
GUEST,John D. 16 Oct 00 - 10:00 AM
Naemanson 16 Oct 00 - 06:22 AM
Lena 16 Oct 00 - 04:48 AM
wysiwyg 15 Oct 00 - 11:07 PM
Naemanson 15 Oct 00 - 10:40 PM
wysiwyg 15 Oct 00 - 10:32 PM
wysiwyg 15 Oct 00 - 09:55 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: alison
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:38 AM

Nurses who work in ICU's call the "donor cycles" too.....and they see an awful lot of donors.....

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: ddw
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 11:49 PM

Just a by-the-by.....

Around here the term "crotch rocket" is pretty well confined to the likes of the Kawasaki 900 Ninja and such bikes, but a fellow I work with came up with a better name — "donor cycles."

david


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: GUEST,Joerg
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:15 PM

Obviously, DougR.

:-DDD

Cheers to Mbo!

Joerg


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: DougR
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:36 PM

Ugh ...question. Is this still the Goodbye thread?

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: InOBU
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:48 PM

HEY MBO!
Being a young fella is tough, we have all been through it. BUT, to many folks around here get out of the kitchen rather than sticking around in the fray. All that folks say to each other, we still kinda like each other. Look, Richard Bridge and GeorgeH and I got fairly heavily into it discussing Ireland, and I can say, I think we are good friends. So, stick around old friend, and get old and grey like and with the rest of us...
Larry


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 03:15 PM

Not sure Namaenson, Harleys with their rumble, buzzing 2 strokes, old British thumpers (ever seen a Panther 600 - ?650 single?), BMWs and the Japanese stuff, etc. have all had their appeal to me even though I have not had the pleasure of riding many of them (have ridden up to 900s when I was young and before I cared about the law though...).

I like to think that all these machines offer something although I would be inclined to agree that the quieter ones tend to be the better ones. I got myself banned (fortunately on my own Honda CB 200) for drink and driving when 21 and I accepted (rather than kicked aginst) that I deserved the ban...

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Naemanson
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:50 PM

You know I mentioned the noise as being obnoxious but there is still, on visceral level, an appreciation of the low rumble of a Harley. The problem is that some riders get their manhood wrapped up in the sound level and do what they can to make it louder. These are people who do not understand the philosophy of "speak softly and carry big stick". They haven't figured out that a quiet competant person carries more weight than the brash loudmouth. The same thing goes for motorcycles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:47 AM

M of Harlow.... This Yank has never heard that expression before.

Goodbye. I am leaving because I am bored. -- George Saunders' dying words.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:21 AM

Do you realise how hard it's going to be to get mad at the motorcycles revving outside my window at midnight when I'm think of them as "crotch rockets"????

*gasp* *chuckle* *SNORT!*


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:02 AM

Kendall, I had motorbikes for several years - only small ones like Honda 250s but I covered quite a few miles. I think that the best bit of riding advice I was ever given was "assume that every car driver is a maniac out to kill you". I am just wondering if I am alone in thinking that those who have ridden motorbikes (and survived) are a lot more aware of the road than people who have only driven cars.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 08:51 AM

Sorry Kendall, but you lost me back at the "open widows ...blasted into silence ...by CROTCH ROCKETS." Poor ladies. Sounds like you live in a rough neighborhood.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 08:46 AM

Do Americans use the expression "On your bike!" ?Meaning "Get lost" - I'm just curious.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: kendall
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:55 AM

unnecessary noise is unnecessary noise no matter where it comes from, and people who delight in making unnecessary noise, are, IMO...unnecessary. Believe it or not, I am an ex biker! I gave it up because there are more assholes in cars than on bikes. My wife (at the time) and I were riding in St. Martin, when we rounded a curve, some dink in a car met us on the wrong side of the road. I had no place to go but OFF the road, and, of course there was a rock pile there at the point of enrty. I wound up on the bottom, she wound up on top, and the bike in the middle. My right hind leg took months to get back to normal, and, I havn't ridden since.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:27 AM

Yeah,I like the "throaty rumble" vintage Harley sound.What I object to is the high-pitched brrraPPP_PAP_PAP glass-pack snapping sound they are putting in the mufflers of some of the new ones.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:22 AM

Give me the gut rumble of a Harley over the boom boom boom of certain car stereos any day! You know the ones, where the damn thing is so loud the entire back end of the car vibrates..... At least Harleys look pretty (by the way, saw an amazing Yamaha Classic something, at Llanfair, apparently it's local and can be seen outside the chip shop every Friday - chrome on the chrome and a noise that makes Harleys sound like an angel's fart.....)these damn boom boxes are usually stuffed into the back of a Ford Fiesta or a manky old Escort....

We get them up and down our road, and you can hear the damn stereo before you hear the car! There is one that is so full of speakers, there is no back seat anymore, or boot (trunk), just speaker..... sheesh!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 01:50 AM

No sorry there, LeJ. I am with all of you on the deicble level of a what ever. Loud noises, of a certain pitch, do bother this "deaf" lady, and so do loud car stereos of things I do not want to listen to. But---

The "rumble" of a Harley is still distictive, and recognizable to an "afficiando" and I guess that is part of the "cult mystique?" Hell, I don't know, I don't ride at all, I just live with 2 guys who do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 01:37 AM

Sorch,I'm a rider myself.Cut me and I bleed Yamaha.I have heard Harleys that were so goddam loud that it sounds like an explosion when they're started.I put those guys in the same class as the goofy teenager who blasts his obnoxious music through his car stereo because it's no fun unless everyone else gets to hear your music too.I know plenty of warm and friendly Harley folks,but I think the Biker Icon of the Hell's Angel encourages a lot of assholes and people who want to be assholes to buy Harleys,put on the colors,and lean on other people's sensibilities. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: DougR
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 12:45 AM

On the highway, Sorcha, I would give you no argument. In my neighborhood, forget it. DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 12:05 AM

Maybe we need to start a new thread called MudCat Motorcycles? And kendall, "Crotch Rockets" are obnoxious. They have a high pitched whine, sort of like a small chain saw. I admit Harleys are loud, but it is a deep, distinctive rumble that is not painful to either the ears or the gut. To some, it is actually soothing, and seems to be always "ignorable", IMHO. It certainly is not as painful to me as loud car stereos, or "crotch rockets" . Oh well. To each his own.

I am not a "rider" because I do not like the Wind In My Face, and I hate other people's loud noises too, but the rumble of a Harley on the highway really doesn't bother me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: hesperis
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:42 PM

*sheesh*


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: GUEST,Joerg
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 09:39 PM

kendall, biskit - didn't you know that Shakespeare can be ridden and a motorbike can be cited?

It's all the same: you can do it the loud way or you can do it the good way. Once you do it the good way you might hear people calling: "Louder, please!" In reverse ... well, there are few who dare to say "Better, please!", especially as this is an insult. Most people just get upset, without actually wanting to insult someone.

;-)

Praise - just sent an email to you. Sorry for being so late.

Joerg


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: kendall
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 09:22 PM

Hey, I didnt aim that at anyone in particular, but, you are right, I AM narrow minded in some ways. For instance, I believe I have a god given right to be able to listen to my TV or stereo with my widows and door open, without having them blasted into silence by some noise worshipping dude on a "Crotch Rocket" And a few years ago, I had one ripping back and forth by my house, so, I did confront him and asked why he had to make so much noise. As best I can determine from his limited IQ he thought it was fun..None of the neighbors did. Right now, he is doing 5 years for drugs.Ah.. blessed peace and quiet. Praise, there will be no fight.. just an old fart running his mouth! He's harmless..(And, if you believe that, you will also believe there will be a Richard Simmons Jr. too) Sorry Biskit, no personal insult intended.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 06:16 PM

Donnie. You tickled me as you reached over my shoulder with that! Shame on you, tickle a girl.

(Psst! Tavern 3 coming up! And no barfights!!!)

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Biskit
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 06:09 PM

Nooooo..not really lookin' for trouble(*Grin* an'a peck on the cheek for Susan)I just believe a man of such obvious inteligence and wit should temper his sharp tongue with compassion for ones fellow man, I mean after all Shakespear,..WHOA Dude! Otherwise someone might think you a pompous, blustery old fool who hides behind his computer and cares nothing at all about other peoples feelings.OOOOps sorry Susan that just kinda slipped out... *Grin*w/much blushing.-Biskit-


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:40 PM

OOOPS. Sorry Clinton. I was thinking of Chuck Hemrick. CH - there's the connection. By the way, tomorrow is Chuck's birthday. Sandy Toes is his SO.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:40 PM

...sssssneak!........

And in a flash, there I am, standing in between Biskit and kendall, who are nearly toe to toe....

My! What a nice place to be!

Lessee, who gets my front... kendall, since Biskit and I have met and hugged and he knows the layout awreddy. Besides, if I face you, Donnie, the look on your face is liable to crack me up and THIS IS SERIOUS!

You both nicely distracted now?

Oh goody!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: kendall
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:22 PM

you looking for trouble sonny? as Shakespere said "If you spend word for word with me, I shall make your wit bankrupt."


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Biskit
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:03 PM

I didn't lower myself to name calling.The only name I called was Kendall,and I believe he answers to that one. As for me, my manhood, and my motorcycle are both still intact.idea for Kendall though,...next time you see one of "those Guys", with their manhood wrapped up in noise, step right up and state your case.-Biskit-


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:27 PM

Sorcha,
I love being 53. I get away with so much more than at 23. Everyone assumes I gettinbg "funny" or menopausal.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Troll
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:18 PM

Actually, it's not ALL downhill. It's down this hill and up that one and down it and miss the curve and through the fence and across the field and into a pond full of duckweed but I think you get the idea.

troll*** combing duckweed out of my eyebrows


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Troll
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:15 PM

Yeah Sorch. It's all downhill from here.
WHEEEEEEEEEE

troll ***BG***


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:09 PM

ok maybe I should off myself


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: annamill
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:05 PM

Sorcha, you're coming to the best part of life. You're about to enter the free part. Relax and enjoy it. As my ex used to say 'Think of the alternative' ;-)

As for Mbo, bye.

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 12:35 PM

Name calling is ok, so long as they are funny names. Slobberdegullion for example. Try here for some other choice examples of the art.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 12:02 PM

Biskit - that was humor. Much like my wish to deep fry the McD's manager's genitals. If you don't like it, say so but no name calling, please. It can only get nasty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Biskit
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:21 AM

"associate"


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:14 AM

I forgot my manners, and I made a thread about it. Anyone else who feels like that is welcome over here:

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=26526&messages=2

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Biskit
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:14 AM

No shocked response here Kendall, that's just the sort of lame,narrow minded, tunnel visioned crap that I'm starting to assiciate with your name.-Biskit-


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:13 AM

Geez, ya go away for a weekend to meet mudcatters and get back to find that the other lot have decided to leave!

Praise, I'll PM my EMail to you, please pass it to Mbo and he can get in touch if he'd like to.

I don't know about Mbo getting a life, there are lots of folks here who could do well to just put the keyboard down and go talk to a real person once in a while.....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: kendall
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 10:49 AM

that was not a threat or a suggestion, so, no shocked responses please.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: kendall
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 10:41 AM

I know what you mean about the noise of a motorcycle..these guys seem to have their manhood wrapped up in a noise..pitiful! I've also wondered if someone was to string a piece of piano wire across the road about neck high, would this type of boob miss his head? Hell he never uses it anyway...


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: GUEST,John D.
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 10:00 AM

Matt hasn't gone anywhere. :o)


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Naemanson
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 06:22 AM

I know what you mean about a hard wek coming up in 3D world. Our office gets audited this wek for the first time in 4 or 5 years. And there is only one pair of shoulders on which the responsibility rests. I already feel the awesome weight this morning.

Have a good week, Praise and all. As good as you can under the circumstances.

Hail Caesar, We who are about to die, salute you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Lena
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:48 AM

Thank XXX.I kept on popping in this thread checking for an apparition of his.I'm beginning to miss him really.

duplicate posting deleted
- el joeclone -


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 11:07 PM

RANT ON, PRAISE GETS A TURN TOO, DAMMIT.

Yeah, no problem. I'm gonna be on the Cat a lot less myself the next two weeks. Hope you check on me. I have a hard 3D job to wrap up. Pore me. I'm awful tired. Wouldn't take back a thing I've done in the last week, but time to pay the cost in rest and get that job DONE. I suppose I can always start sleeping during the funerals.

I was pretty worried about Matt there too.

RANT OFF.

Dear Brett. And all MudFriends.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Naemanson
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 10:40 PM

Thanks, Praise, for checking on him and letting us know.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 10:32 PM

Just wanted to let you know that I have exchanged several short e-mail messages with Matthew this weekend as he was engaged in an intense school project with an impossible deadline. My sense of it is that we may not see him around here for awhile, but you never know.

What I think was my clearest message to him tried to convey that I wish him well if he is moving on-- I think I said go go go, and go away from Mudcat if you must, but don't go away from the friends you made here, right? (Like myself.) Right? He answered affirmatively.

I still do not understand exactly what the last straw was. I've asked him if he and I have anything to clear up, and that's about all I feel responsible for. I can see there has been a last straw for a lot of you, too, over this, and I think from your own viewpooint you are more than completely justified.

And I didn't come into this thread now to speak for him. But to say to those of you who are his friends, not just fellow Cafe-denizens-- you do have his e-mail address, right? If not it is listed in Mudcat Resources, ya know. I am hoping that I did a good enough job at my end of being his freind that he will of course want to stay in touch. So I would just encourage you to look to what has been good about your own friendship with him, and start there in this new time.

We have two boys his age in the Navy who left like this but stayed in touch as much as they could once the real world kicked into their awarenesses. Now it's our daughter. Same thing. Well, it falls to the adults among his friends here to be adults, IMNSHO, as he starts acting like the really busy college kid he is.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:55 PM

Whooo-ee! Good rant!!!

Awards show, The Ranties!

Yer nominated!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: Naemanson
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:38 PM

Re: Harleys and Folk Music

Rant On!

I just came from the Portsmouth (NH) Sea Music Festival and have a new opinion of those damn machines. Admittedly the venues weren't great but the Harleys roaring past every 15 seconds or so certainly didn't help at all.

The love affair with loud engines offends me anyway as I sit here listening to the eternal ringing in my ears. The prevalent lack of consideration on the roads today is starting to wear down my generally benevolent outlook on life. If it isn't roaring engines then it's stereos throbbing the bass beat out into the atmosphere. Where and when will it stop. Do these people even have a clue that there are people out here who don't care to hear them?

Rant Off!


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Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:24 PM

Joerg, can you please e-mail me since we can't exchange PM's?

(I may not get it till AM unless you are quick.)

~Susan

motormice@hotmail.com


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