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Lovin' Spoonful....again.

mactheturk 30 Jul 00 - 08:58 AM
The Shambles 30 Jul 00 - 10:14 AM
TheMuse 30 Jul 00 - 10:24 AM
bbelle 30 Jul 00 - 10:41 AM
thosp 30 Jul 00 - 11:37 AM
Mbo 30 Jul 00 - 11:39 AM
bbelle 30 Jul 00 - 11:41 AM
mactheturk 30 Jul 00 - 11:46 AM
Amos 30 Jul 00 - 11:55 AM
thosp 30 Jul 00 - 12:05 PM
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Big Mick 30 Jul 00 - 01:29 PM
Mbo 30 Jul 00 - 01:32 PM
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mactheturk 30 Jul 00 - 02:54 PM
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Subject: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: mactheturk
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:58 AM

Does anybody remember the Night Owl Cafe in Greenwich Village and the harmonica player with his crazy sidekick Zal?

Does anyone remember the summer of 66' and songs like Nashville Cats, Daydream, You Didn't Have To Be So Nice?

Does anyone remember Steve Boone, Joe Butler, Zal Yanovsky and John Sebastian?

Do you believe in magic?

Mac


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: The Shambles
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 10:14 AM

In a young girl's heart.

'You and me and rain on the roof'.

No all that was before my time........


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: TheMuse
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 10:24 AM

Mac, Don't know the Night Owl Cafe but do know the Lovin' Spoonful. In fact have "the best of" album in my hand right now including "full color individual photos of John, Joe, Steve & Zal (suitable for framing)"!

I remember them from high school and have many fond memories surrounding their music.

And yes, I do believe in the magic of connections made during that time of my life.

TheMuse

P.S. Did you ever have to make up your mind?


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bbelle
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 10:41 AM

... and leave the other behind. It's not always easy. It's not always kind. Did you ever have to make up your mind?

you bet! some hard choices ... some good ... some bad.

moonchild


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: thosp
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 11:37 AM

"and all your fondest dreams -- are their cartoons"

peace (Y) thosp


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 11:39 AM

You got it! Did you know that the band first formed right here at Camp Lejeune Marine Corps base? And the one of the members is actress Yancy Butler's father?

--Matt


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bbelle
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 11:41 AM

Matthew ... I even know who Yancy Butler is! Loved the music in the movie "Drop Zone."

moonchild


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: mactheturk
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 11:46 AM

Why must every generation
think their folks are square
and no matter where their heads at
they know mom's not there.


I must be permissive
understanding
of a younger generation.

Mac


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 11:55 AM

They hit the Zone at the right moment, the Spoonful did. Dreamed over their cuts for years.

I could tell ya about the magic in a young girl's soul
But it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock and roll!
Do you believe in magic?

Regards,

A


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: thosp
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 12:05 PM

and Hey! pamy girlfriends only threeshe's got her own videophoneand she's takin LSDand now that we're best friendsshe wants to give a bit to mewhat's the matter daddy>how come you're turnin Greencould it be thatyou can't live up to your Dreams

peace (Y) thosp


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bbelle
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 12:10 PM

I used to believe in the magic.

"Darlin' be home soon ....."

moonchild


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Big Mick
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 01:29 PM

"And they can pick more notes than the number of ants on a Tennessee anthill....."

"So go, and beat your foolish head against the sky" (I think that's right??)

Yep, I loved this band when I was a kid.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 01:32 PM

I believe in that magic.


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: DonMeixner
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 02:54 PM

I went to see The Spoonful in 1967. A friend and I took our dates and we sat in the $4.00 dollar seats at LeMoyne College. The show was hardly a sell out. After the first song, Magic, John said, "You'all come on down and get closer so our $ 4.00 seats became $ 10.00 seats and the rest of the show was great. This was just after the "Everything Playin" album had been released and Zal had left the group. Money troubles I'd heard later. Jerry Yester, brother of Jim Yester, (The Association) replaced Zal Yanovsky and I felt that he was a fine addition. Zal was more of a loon on stage but also a fine guitarist. Yester was equally as good but more sedate. Actually not very sedate, but more so than Zal.

Of the dates, mine was unimpressed and the other guy's swears she doesn't even remember going. The other guy, went on to carreer in Bible Colleges and Encyclopedia sales. I became a folksinger and silversmith. Funny how things turn out. One of these days I'll have to sing "Darlin' Be Home Soon" to my Sweetie Pie. May be that will jog her memory.

Don


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: mactheturk
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 02:54 PM

for the great relief
of having you to talk to.....


"Darlin' Be Home Soon", by John Sebastian

MP


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Shanti
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 06:09 PM

Hi Don!

Another Spoonful fan here. The only time I saw them in person was at the Newport Folk Festival in 1966. We had seats fairly close to the front, because we had skipped dinner to get there early. Glad we were that close, because the Spoonful had trouble with the electronic piano. Bein' a folk festival, it wasn't geared for such new-fangled instruments. If we'd been any further back, we wouldn't have heard much of SUMMER IN THE CITY. That was a great fest for a lot of reasons, but the Spoonful made it outrageous! One of my fondest memories of the 60s.


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 06:13 PM

Wait! Are you folk telling me The Lovin' Spoonful were a FOLK band?

--Matt


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bbelle
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 06:35 PM

Yes, Matthew, they were. Listen to their music, especially from the beginning, and you see and hear that. I had such a crush on John Sebastian ... the way he looked, the way he sang ... and his voice was like homemade vanilla custard. mm ... mm .... mm

moonchild (shaking her head to bring herself back to reality and the present ... what a drag)


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 06:54 PM

Well slap the dog and spit in the fire! I thought they were just a pop group! Ye learn something new everyday!

--Matt


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bbelle
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 06:56 PM

Matt ... I think you will find yourself playing some of their tunes, once you have really listened to them. Methinks it's your kind of music.

moonchild


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: mactheturk
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 07:49 PM

Darlin' Companion
come on an give me understandin'
an let me be your champion
the one to hold your pretty hand in


Darlin' companion
love will never be abondon
long as I got legs to stand on
I'm goin' to run to you

that was a good one too.....

Mac


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: GUEST,JMCM
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:01 PM

Govan Spoonful - Not a tribute band, but a ceilidh band who loved their music and ideals, played at T in the Park, a Scottish main stream music festival this summer. (Govan is a district of Glasgow for our USA readers).
What a day for a daydream that was.
love, john.


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:06 PM

Whoa, they sang "What a Day for a Daydream" too? Dang! What other songs do I know that they sing? All I knew for sure was "Do You Believe in Magic." Ever see the Grim Reaper commercial with "Daydream" in it? I love that!

--Matt


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Shanti
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:06 PM

The Spoonful was one of the first "crossover" bands. Their records were played on pop stations as well as at coffeehouses, at folk festivals and everywhere in between. You could say, if you really want to be boring about it, that they were electrified folkies. They had a sound all their own!


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bbelle
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:09 PM

What a day for a daydream ... what a day for a daydreaming boy ... I'm lost in a daydream ... dreaming 'bout my bundle of joy. And, if time was really on my side ....

moonchild


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: GUEST,JMCM
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:10 PM

Moonchild - I once heard Archie Fisher's singing described as being covered in molten chocholate/custard by a besoted female audience member. Mabye you should check out his recordings if this is to your taste.
love, john.


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: GUEST,Barry Finn
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:14 PM

Like the Spoonfull but loved John Sebastian. Saw the Spoonfull somewhere but can't remember where, could've been the same Newport Folk Fest, caught maybe the last 4 or 5 years of that fest. Sebastian (IMHO) was never better after the LS. I still have 3 of his LP's (gotta get a new needle for that turntable someday) & every so often find myself singing "Red Eye Express" or "You're A Big Boy Now" or "Rainbows All Over Your Blues". When the kids were little I used to sing to sleep sometimes to "How Have You Been". Yes, he was folk to me back then. Barry


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: JedMarum
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:45 PM

I remember well. I still sing Darlin' Be Home Soon sometimes. It's a great song, many remember, and those who don't respond to, anyway.


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bbelle
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:59 PM

Geez, Jed ... wish I'd know that, whilst in Dallas! I wouldn't have let you off the stool without singing it.

moonchild


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bob jr
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 09:49 PM

i remeber one of them ratting out his drug dealer to avoid going to jail just cant remeber which guy it was cept i know its wasnt john sebastian ....i think i remeber him singing in the care bear movie but i could have been dreaming that one


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: mactheturk
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 10:58 PM

Let's go for a jump
on my trampoline
I can show you the prettiest mountains
you've ever seen
so run to your closet
and pull out your blue swede shoes
I'll paint rainbows
all over your blues

magic..........


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: DonMeixner
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:13 AM

Was this stuff folk music? Much of it was based on real solid blues and bluesical pop tunes, Jug Band standards, and covers of other peoples stuff. My favorite bit of blues by The Spoonful was "Sportin' Life". The arrangement fit Johns voce very well and it is possibly the best showcase of his amazing harmonica ability except for "Blues for Dad and JB's Harmonica. "Amy's Theme" may be an exception as well. ( Some place I saw a video taped duet of John Sebastian and Paul Butterfield trying to out do the other, Wow.)

"Let that Boy Rock and Roll" showed off Zal's guitar work.

"Jug Band music", "My Gal", "Wild About My Lovin", and "Fishin' Blues" were all arrangements of the stuff John and Zal did in the Mugwumps and the Even Dozen Jug Band days.

Joe Butler and Steve Boone often get left out but while there stuff was solid it was not exceptional. Joe Butler did have a voice that suited John's for vocal work. And Steve Boone wrote a couple great songs. "Darlin Companion" and "Butchie's Tune" .

Butler carried the band name on with one album that wasn't awfull but it was miles away from The Goodtime Music they started with.

Butler, Boone, and I think Yester are doing oldies shows as TL'S.

Don


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bbelle
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:29 AM

Don ... I just checked their website and they are. Just wouldn't be the same without Sebastian.

moonchild


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 01:59 AM

Their songs were so tuneful and joyful, even my parents, hardly rockers or modern folkies, enjoyed listening to them. My mother could be heard whistling "Daydream" as she worked in the kitchen.


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 07:10 AM

I saw John Sebastian on the "Woodstock" film. I liked his music straight away, although I dont think he was on the planet when he performed there. I have theeir greatest hits on vinyl, but dont have anything to play it on - Shucks
Patrish


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Willie-O
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 07:26 AM

Their stuff has such great spirit and heart, it's part of the sixties repertoire that still sounds fresh and great and fun.

Zal Yanovsky owns a restaurant in Kingston Ontario these days, the trendy but enjoyable Chez Piggy. (It's lasted a lot longer than the Spoonful did.) For reasons still unclear to me I once ordered and consumed a steak tartare there...
A few years ago the Juno Awards (Canadian music biz) gave Zal a lifetime achievement award, after he'd been out of the scene for 25 years. I think it's cause they had just found out who the hell he was!

Willie-O


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 08:36 AM

I think John Sebastian WAS the Spoonful, just as John Fogerty was Creedence -- nothing against the other guys, but he was the only one that was critical to their sound or their success. I was a little young to see the whole band in concert, but I saw John Sebastian (with a backing band) at Babson College in the early 70's. Great show, with all the positive energy the guy is known for.

Someone mentioned Woodstock, which was both a great career boost for John Sebastian, and a huge embarrassment. By his own account he was pretty heavily medicated, which he figured was okay because he hadn't expected to be playing at that particular moment (schedule change when another performer wasn't ready to go on). Still a good performance, but his altered state was pretty apparent.

Mbo, in addition to all the great Spoonful cuts, John Sebastian also wrote and performed the theme song from "Welcome Back Kotter". A true all-around entertainer.


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: bbelle
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 08:50 AM

I had forgotten about the Welcome Back Kotter theme. I remember the first time I heard it ... it was unmistakably John Sebastian.

moonchild


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: mactheturk
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 08:50 AM

I saw John Sebastian last year at a small venue and it was very nice. He and his group did a few Lovin' Spoonful tunes but mainly played new material or older jug band stuff. It was a fun night and we were reminded of his mojo on the harp.

He did start off with one of my favorites.....


Listen people
well, I goin' to sign a song
I'm goin' to St. Louis
but I won"t be long
cause I'm wild about my lovin'
I like to have my fun
If you want to be a girl of mine

Mac


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Mbo
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 09:46 AM

Wow, Welcome Back Kotter TOO!? Man I love that song! (And the show!) These guys RULE!


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Downeast Bob
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:26 AM

Was it folk? Well, full of folk roots anyway. Remember, My cat Dragged in Through the door One fine morn' Ooooweee my dear Henry Dig the dog that cat dragged in!

With five string banjo, Jew's harp, slide whistle and kazoo.

The wonderful thing about these guys was their spirited, eclectic style. They were contemporaries of the early Grateful Dead and other early acid rock groups, but with East Coast roots.


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: GUEST,Potter
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:55 AM

A John Sebastion thread without mention of the Kweskin Jugband? Here's a game to play. Name two pop/rock acts and a recording combo that got together a John Sebastion's house.

I remeber one morning as a kid, awakened in the morning by the clock radio blaring Do You Believe In Magic--the most purely happy I've ever been!!!


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Jed at Work
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:58 AM

well, moonchild - there's always next time yer out for the NTIF. We can sing it together!

Whistle Stop what on earth were yuo doin' at Babson in 1970? That was the year I married the daughter of Babson VP Everett Stephens!


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:20 PM

Potter,

See related thread: "Lyr. Req: Jug band music"........ Lots of Kweskin conversation.


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:33 PM

Jed, it was probably '72 or '73 that I saw John Sebastian at Babson (Knight Auditorium). I grew up right down the street. Great show, with a lot of the Spoonful stuff in the sets (Do You Believe In Magic was the encore).


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: annamill
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 02:04 PM

Do I remember The Night Owl??? YES! I used to live with Joey Marra, the owner. He and I are still very close friends. I worked there with him in the sixties and we started seeing each other. I had lunch with him just the other day. He gave me a jacket with the Night Owl logo designed by Keith Hornig. It's beautiful. John and I were friends but I'm afraid I don't remember the others. John did a solo when I was there. Beautiful gentle man. I hope he hasn't changed. That was a really good time.

..and yes, Honey knows we're still friends and that we have lunch now and then.

LOve, annap


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: GUEST,Barry Finn
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 05:32 PM

They played Woodstock? What a shame, I was there too & they were probably as aware of me as I was of them. Barry


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: mactheturk
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 09:28 PM

an even if time ain't really
on my side
it's one of those days
for takin' a walk outside
I'm blowin' the day
to take a walk in the sun
an fall on my face
on somebodys' new mowed lawn

remember those days?????

Mac


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:20 PM

Hooray for John, world's only rocknroll Lead Zither. Damn fine harmonica player too(like Father,like son). Sebastian would be singin "I remember her eyes, soft warm and brown" with his eyes closed and that blissful grin so that you knew he did remember. All the sad business with Zal and the drug bust. John in his Nudie Suit with the marijuana leaves on the lapels being interviewed by Dick Cavett.Say, I heard he had a new band together, mainly jug-band stuff? NRBQ and Joey Scampinato are devoted to that Spoonful sound,still.

The Spoonies always bring one of those Sebastian grins to my face

I was surfin in the ocean greasin' sun tan lotion
When I got wiped out by a Beach Boy
He was surfin' when he hit me, but jumped off his board to get me
and he dragged me to the shore just like a child's toy
How we stumbled into land with all the waiters eatin' sandwiches
and tried to mooch a towel from the hoi palloi
He emptied out his eardrums, I emptied out mine
and everybody knows that the very last line
Is "the doctor said give him jug band music,it seems to make him feel just fine."

John.Steve.Joe.Zal. Wherever you guys are...what a treat it was. Ya didn't have to be so nice....

LEJ


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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again.
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:36 PM

Why does this thread continue to depress the livin' hell out of me?

Spaw


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