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Irish Songs for female singers

M 25 Apr 00 - 11:24 AM
Gary T 25 Apr 00 - 11:28 AM
SINSULL 25 Apr 00 - 11:40 AM
Wotcha 25 Apr 00 - 11:46 AM
M 25 Apr 00 - 02:19 PM
keltcgrasshoppper 25 Apr 00 - 08:10 PM
Mbo 25 Apr 00 - 09:17 PM
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Áine 25 Apr 00 - 10:54 PM
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Malcolm Douglas 26 Apr 00 - 12:48 AM
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Subject: Irish Songs for female singers
From: M
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 11:24 AM

WANTED: Irish songs for female singers.

Specifically, two singers, one an alto and the other a (low) sorpano. (I still don't believe her. I'm not a soprano, but her voice is lower.) Margaret also plays the guitar. We're looking for songs to sing at a local session (NY), that is predominately musicians--last week there were four accordians! Most of the songs sung there are typical, sing-along stuff, like "Black Velvet Band" and "Wild Irish Rover." We're looking for songs that are (possibly) traditional, older, not as well known, more stand alone type stuff. (There's a singer who does "Shoals of Herring"--what a great song!) Anybody have suggestions? Things we can get ahold of words and music for? Any and all will be much appreciated. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Gary T
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 11:28 AM

"Come by the Hills" might be a nice one.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 11:40 AM

Four Green Fields. Danny Boy More later.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Wotcha
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 11:46 AM

M,
Some suggestions:

Sally Gardens
Fields of Athenry
Quare Bungle Rye
Three Score and Ten
Gals of Dublin Town
Somewhere Along the Road (See thread with lyrics from BAZ)
Song for Ireland
Dicey Reilly

Let us know how it worked out!
Maybe we'll get our own Irish Society here in Kuwait to follow suit

Cheers,
Allahamdalla
Brian


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: M
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 02:19 PM

Thanks for the suggestions so far...

Brian--"Gals of Dublin" is not in the database, so can you give me a little more info on it? The SuperSearch is disabled so I cannot search for the thread on "Somewhere Along the Road."

Like I said, all the typical ones are already sung--Danny Boy, I'll Take You Home Kathleen, Athenry, Black Velvet Band, Sally Gardens, etc. I'm looking for slightly more "exotic" songs. Margaret knows Lowlands of Holland, Annake Gordon (sp?), and some songs by Delores Keegan (?). We really want to showcase the vocals to kinda balance things out. Thanks again.

M


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: keltcgrasshoppper
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 08:10 PM

Dirty old town!!!


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Mbo
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 09:17 PM

Oooh I was just going to suggest Anachie Gordon...I love that song. Try some of these:
I Live Not Where I Love--Mary Black

Clohinne Winds--Niamh Parsons (and the Loose Connections)
Shades of Gloria--Maura O'Connell
Paddy's Lamentation (By The Hush)--Mary Black
Shamrock Shore--Karan Casey
The Stolem Child--Loreena McKennitt
I Know My Love--The Corrs & Chieftains
The World Turned Upside Down--Karan Casey
Bright Blue Rose--Mary Black
The Tinkerman's Daughter--Niamh Parsons

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Antóin
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 09:30 PM

I'm sorry if I'm coming in on a very negative thread; I'm reacting to the responses more than to your original query. This appears to be more an Irish-American song circle than native Irish, not that I would wish to create any artificial distinctions. "The Shoals of Herring" is, as you say, a great song, however it is not Irish, it is about the traditional English herring fishing industry. "Three Score and Ten", another lovely song mentioned, is again a song about an English fishing disaster. "Dirty old Town" is a song about a run down English industrial city. It has powerful imagery which could apply to a similar situation In Ireland or the U.S.A., however it is not an Irish song. "Danny Boy" has been adopted as the quintessential Irish song by people of Irish descent but as has been discussed in detail in previous correspondence on this forum, the lyrics were written by an Englishman. Some of the above songs were popularised by the "Clancy Brothers" and so people have come to think of them as being typically Irish songs. You mention the "Wild Irish Rover"; I don't know any song of that name, but if you mean the "Wild Rover" please don't sing that song if you come to Ireland as the only place you'll here it is in tourist traps. I cannot be objective about that song, I don't know if it's Irish or not but it's definately the number one in the top ten of the more tacky side of the Irish tourist "industry". You mentioned Delores Keegen, I think that should be Dolores Keane; she is a terrific singer and has some really beautiful songs on her many recordings. Try and source some out. I apologise if I'm not more constructive in my suggestions, there is a huge selection of really strong Irish songs to select from but they are not to be found in the compilation albums "Favourite Irish Songs" etc. found in the tourist shops.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Edel
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 10:29 PM

By that standard any song not in Gaelic(Irish) is not really Irish. Give it up. The Irish musical tradition is very inclusive.

How about:

I'll tell my Ma Star of the County Down The Lakes of Ponchetrain (Ok so it's not irish- shoot me) The Water is Wide The Briar and The Rose (Tom Waits but sounds very Irish)

The book "Rise up Singing" Edited by Peter Blood and Annie Patterson has most of these songs. It's a great reference that includes many traditions.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Áine
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 10:54 PM

Dear M,

Sounds like what you're looking for are English translations of songs originally written in Irish. Here are a few suggestions:

The Dawning of the Day
The Snowy Breasted Pearl
Mairín de Barra
The Brink of the White Rock
Have You Been to Carrick?
The Coolin
My Fair-Haired Girl

And here are some other suggestions:

Sorry The Day That I Was Married
The Wee Article
Still I Love Him
The Bantry Girl's Lament
When I Was A Fair Maid
Biddy Mulligan
The High Hills of Derry

As for "exotic" songs -- I really don't know where you're going with that. As for "showcasing the vocals", your voices are going to have to do that for you, not the song. Singing acapella would be 'showcasing' yourselves, surely. My advice is to pick some good material, put it in a proper (and comfortable) key for the two of you, then practice, practice, practice. Even if you pick an often heard song, a well formed, arranged and practiced performance will do you in good stead.

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Áine
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 10:57 PM

And Edel,

You said . . . any song not in Gaelic(Irish) is not really Irish in your post above. I know plenty of people who would say that very thing -- and they'd say it in Irish.

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 12:48 AM

"We're looking for songs that are (possibly) traditional, older, not as well known, more stand alone type stuff."

That's what M originally asked for.  Nearly everybody who has since replied has made well-meant assumptions about what she was asking for, without actually paying much attention to her question; mostly they have suggested songs which are over-familiar from popular recordings by Irish performers, a good few of which are either English or Scottish songs (borrowed and sometimes not acknowledged) or American "fake Irish" commercial products.  Antóin made that point, and got an immediate, and entirely unjustified, put-down from Edel.  Áine's suggestions are, as ever, intelligent and well-informed, though obviously I'd disagree with the apparant suggestion that songs in the English language are not really Irish songs unless translated from Gaelic originals, as would a good many respected Irish traditional singers.  To Áine's recommendations I might just tentatively add, as possibilities among many others, Ned of the Hill, The Green Fields of America and As I Roved Out; all easily found on the DT, and, while relatively well-known, nevertheless of a shape which would permit interesting interpretation in the format M describes.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Stewie
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 03:31 AM

'Donal Og'.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Bobby Rogerson
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 05:03 AM

Some argy-bargy about what constitutes an "Irish" song!


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Bobby Rogerson
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 05:12 AM

A gremlin stepped in and posted the above incomplete script--- Most of those objecting to the description of some mentioned songs as "Irish" were correct in their statements, but maybe just a wee bit over-fussy ?;-) Good music is good music, and the Irish folk artistes tend to take it to their hearts no matter where it hails from. [For the record---I can't resist my own wee dig---the "Londonderry Air" has its origins in Perthshire, Scotland; and the lyrics of "Come by the Hills"are from the pen of a Scottish employee of Scottish Television----]

Many good suggestions are put forward---how about "Step it out Mary", or "the Lambs on the Green Hills"


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Áine
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 09:33 AM

I really didn't mean to start any 'argy-bargy' -- I don't mind listening to songs sung in English by Irish performers. Heck, I listen to Luka Bloom, fer chrissakes! Some of my favorite Irish authors write in English, too. So, I'm not really as "hard core" as my comment above would suggest.

However, I do like singers who, if they're going to be performing works from a tradition not their own, at least have enough respect for that tradition to do their homework and find out a bit about it first. Everyone's heard that old saying, "Write what you know" -- Well, I'm just one of those folks who say, "Sing what you know".

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: BuskerBard
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 09:53 AM

"Red Is the Rose" is one of my all-time favorites...


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Peg
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 10:05 AM

well I don't know how these women are learning these songs but if you are anything like me a few good recordings are very helpful...it is hard to learn a melody from some of the the books out there. I would like to recommend some of the singers whose work I have learned a lot from, whether I sing something in their arrangement, or get the basic song from them and use another version of lyrics or slightly different melody I have heard elsewhere, etc. My specialty seems to be doing sad, obscure ballads a cappella, so hopefully this will be useful since that sounds like what you are looking for...

Mairead ni Dhomnail (No Dowry, or Traveller's Prayer where she sings with The Voice Squad)
June Tabor (Airs) Child Ballads (often you get several versions right in a row! Not often the most lyrical singing but lots of good sean nos style)
Karan Casey (with Solas or without)
Capercaille (Karen Matheson sings lots of Scots Gaelic songs)
Triona ni Dhomnail (sings with the Donal Lunny Band now, I think)
Loreena McKennitt (early stuff is more traditional, has nice harp accompaniment)
Altan
Anam
Niamh Parsons

hope this helps...

peg


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: MartinRyan
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 10:54 AM

Peg

That's a few good suggestions alright!

M

Listen to a few of the great female interpreters of the general kind of songs you think you might like to try. (The O'Domhnaill sisters sing a lot together and might provide some useful ideas for harmony)Apply your own standards of taste and risk-taking to them - don't be afraid to challenge your audience now and then. Slowly build up a repertoire that allows you to pick a suitable song for varying circumstances. Yes, you need a couple of easy-listening songs for when you're expected to sing even though you know the audience aren't likely to pay much attention to something more demanding. After a while, you can sneak 'em up on them!

Try that and I suspect Antóin's worst fears will never happen!

Regards

p.s. Even the dreaded "Wild Rover" has its charms if you use one of the earlier, quieter, rather rueful English versions!

p.p.s. You might also try a capella unison - there's a tradition of it in Irish singing and it can soouind beautiful.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Alice
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 12:34 PM

M, If you want to sing traditionally, do it solo a capella. Each of you learn a song or songs in your own range, then if you want to join in, do it on the chorus, as in Red Is The Rose. Get Joe Heaney's tapes to hear how the sean nós style sounds. If you want to hear a good female Irish singer that is not over-played in the US, get Mary O'Hara's recordings. More suggested titles, Jackets Green, Kitty of Coleraine, Carraig Donn. All have been discussed in the forum even if they are not in the DT. American audiences are not used to hearing solo a capella singing, but if you want to be more traditional, I'd say learn to perform that way, even if it is in English.

Alice Flynn in Montana


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Brigid in the mountains
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 03:00 PM

Good on you!!!!!!! myself and an amazingly voiced Swiss girlfriend sing in a little band and it is great craic! i am always on the look out for new material too. One that we do (very well too) I deep and she High, is a song called Johnny lovely Johnny.Dolores Keane is the inspirational voice behind our version. Another one is Raglan Road as sung by Sinead O'connor. I can gladly give you the words and if you give me about a week i will write out the score music for you.!


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: M
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 06:05 PM

Whew!! That's alot. Thank you everyone for the help and suggestions.

Malcolm, you had it right. And I guess I should hve been even MORE clear; we are not singing in Irish. This is a REALLY small, local session. All the attendees (audience and musicians) are Irish-American, if that. Only a couple really old men, who rarely show up, sing in the sean nos style. Most people are not concerned with authenticity. The audience pays attention to almost every song, but this is NOT a concert--no one is mic'd, no one is a star, quite a few are beginners. It's real loose. What my friend and I would like to do is inject a bit of the opposite--a little authenticity, a little more emphasis on the vocals, a little estrogen (whatever that means). Just a teensy bit more earnest. English songs are fine, as long as they aren't announced as such. So are Scottish songs. Singing a capella only works if you WARN the musicians NOT to play along--it's only been done once, when I sang Foggy Dew last week, but it dampens the mood. My friend accompanies herself on guitar, but she has a beautiful and different style than the other players. I guess what I'm saying is that there are few rules at this session.

Yes, Peg and Martin, we ideally want to learn from recordings, but you only know what you know. That was the impetus for the orignal query. Ainé, I certainly respect the tradition. If it seems otherwise, because of my inaccuracies, it's just that my brain is a sieve. My friend Margaret is the musician, and the archiver of all the stuff, not me. Believe me, we do our homework. Brigid, sure, send on the words!

Thanks again everybody.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: skarpi
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 06:25 PM

Hallo all , How about - Mhairi´s wedding - Song for the Mira - Mo Ghile Mear - When I was a Fair maid- The wee lass on the Brae - Rose of Allendale.

I have many more songs, there are so many more songs for womans voice.

Well thats all for now, hope you can use some of this All the best skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: vindelis
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 07:23 PM

Just a few more to add: Raglan Road. Blackwater side. I'll tell me ma. Tai wathy? (not sure about the spelling - what I have given is phonetic, and it is a whaling song, it is a beautiful song to sing anyway).


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Kara
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 07:57 PM

Do you love an apple. is a lovely song to sing. Irish ways ans Irish laws. can be made into a good round with a bit of worK


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: tremodt
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 09:09 PM

Teddy O Neil


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 09:48 PM

Skarpi, Mairi's Wedding is Scottish, Song for the Mira is Cape Breton. So, unfortunately the way I understand the original question they don't fit.

One question, Lament of the Irish Emigrant was written by a woman, but is from the point of view of the man, and I've only ever heard it sung by women. Does anyone know of a recording where a man sings it?

Another song which is popular among women singers is Kilkelly, Ireland.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Mulligan
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 10:05 PM

I think that Antoine made a rather good point. I don't see anywhere in there where he suggested that only songs written in native Irish should be considered "Irish Songs." That was a leap of illogic that someone else made later.

It is this sort of thing that muddies up the historical record. I can't tell you how many times I have seen "Amazing Grace" listed as "Celtic." (It is of course a an American song set to the Virginian tune "Loving Lambs.")



For the record: "Water Is Wide" is also American, set to the tune "Waly,Waly." It is one of my favorite songs.
I am kind of partial to "Biddy Mulligan" too.

Mulligan


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,guest, leeneia
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 10:37 PM

See if you can find an old Triona Ni Dhomnail (sp?) album named "Triona." It has a wonderful duet on it called "The Wee Lass on the Brae." It's different.

Also, good old "Molly Malone" is a good song. It feels so good in the mouth. Look for the version in O'Neill's Music of Ireland, which has an interesting variation in the refrain. In Ireland, they sing "she died of a fever, and none could relieve her," which gets rid of the awkward fever/save her rhyme we have here. ("Fever" used to be pronounced "faver.")

As for the remark that a song isn't Irish unless it's in Gaelic, I say the heck with that kind of factionalism. The Irish have a done great things with the English tongue, and no one should take that achievement away from them.


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Subject: Lyr Add: JOHNNY LOVELY JOHNNY^^
From: GUEST,Brigid in the mountains
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 08:34 AM

RAGLAN ROAD^^^

On Raglan Road, on an Autumn day, i saw her first and knew
That her dark hair would weave a snare, that I might on day rue
I saw the danger, yet i passed, along the enchanted way
And i said let grief be a fallen leaf, at the dawning of the day.

On Grafton Street in November, we tripped lightly along the ledge
Of a deep ravine where can be seen, the worth of passions pledge
The queen of hearts still making tarts, and I'm not making hay
For I've loved too much and by such, by such, is happiness blown away.

I gave her gifts of the mind, I gave her the secret sign that's known
To the artists who have known the truth, the Gods of sound and stone
A nd word and tint, I did not stint I gave her poems to say
With her own name there, and long black hair llike clouds over fields in may.

On a quiet street where old ghosts meet, I see her walking now
Away from me, so hurriedly, my reason must allow
That I had wooed not as I should, a creature made of clay
When the angel wooes the clay, he'll lose his wings at the dawn of day.

JOHNNY LOVELY JOHNNY^^

The high walls of Derry look so dismal and grey
And so does lovely johnny he is now going away
He is going to bonny Scothland some sweetheart to see
May the high powers above send him safe home to me.

Oh Johnny lovely Johnny, do you mind the day
When you came to my window to steal me away
You promised you would marry me up above female kind
Oh Johnny lovely Johnny what has altered your mind.

Oh Annie lovely Annie it was all but in jest
For I never intended to make you my best
I never intended to make you my wife
Oh Annie lovley Annie all the days of my life.

The first time I met you tis well I do own
‚twas in my fathers garden in the county Tyrone
with my white apron round us, to shield out the wind
oh Johnny lovely Johnny what has altered your mind.

A bunch of blue ribbons I will tie up and wear
And a wreath of forget-me -nots I will twine round my hair
And if ever he returns again, I will greet him with joy
And I will kiss the lips of my own Johnny boy

Hi there M. hope you get some use out of these songs. As I said if you give me some time I could get round to sending you the music score. Raglan Road we did in D, and Johnny we did in F, with the seconds doing high. Enjoy.......Brigid


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Ella
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 09:36 AM

I sing A Stor Mo Chroi which is a nice song to sing on your own without any backing as the lyrics are quiet thoughtful. About someone left in Ireland as their friends and family have left to seek their fortune in far off lands, and the person is lamenting and singing for them to come back. Roughly translated it means oh love of my heart. (very roughly)

Or Shule Aroon

Or: Welcoming Paddy Home

Or: Peggy Gordon

or: Sam Hall

Or: The Rare Old times

and there's loads you could list on and on. It just takes hearing one you like personally to want to sing it. You have to like the song yourself to want to sing it well.

Regards

Ella


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: skarpi
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 07:44 PM

Hall all, George I know about that one is Scottish and the other is from Cape Breton, but Song for the Mira is still the most greatest song I ever heard , the woman In the Highland Heights Norma McDonald sing this song so great her voice fits for this song. George I might meat you in Oktober in Novia Scotia. All the best skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 07:50 PM

she moves through thr fair is a very nice song


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 07:50 PM

She moves through the fair is a very nice song


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Brigid in the moountains
Date: 28 Apr 00 - 06:09 PM

to Skarpi could you possibly write upthe lyrics of that special song.I like the title, maybe you could figure outthe score music too??(song for the MirA) What is it about anyway? Brigid


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: M
Date: 28 Apr 00 - 07:00 PM

Brigid, thanks a ton!! Margaret was asking about Johnny Lovely Johnny. The music, when you get a chance, would be greatly appreciated, too.

Thanks, Skarpi. Yes, Scottish and Cape Breton songs are fine with us. Ella, this wonderful singer forn Galway, Ray, sings Peggy Gordon and The Rare Old Times, He's amazing!! This is what we aspire to. Thanks for the other songs.

Sorry, we won't do Kilkelly, Ireland--Margaret says she could not get through it without crying. Beautiful song.

Again, thanks EVERYBODY for all the great suggestions! Time for us to get to work.

M


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Brigid in the mountains
Date: 28 Apr 00 - 07:05 PM

Hi M, maybe you could zapp me the song "Kilkelly". Never heard of it, but if it is oone that makes one cry, it can't be too bad!!!! Will send you the music shortly.Brigid


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 28 Apr 00 - 09:34 PM

Dear ladies: You have so many good selections and suggestions already! Allow me to offer a few that in my humble opinion will do nicely. The Bonny Light Horseman (Delores Keane & John Faulkner) Johnny has Gone for a Soldier (Various) Cragie Hills (Keane & Faulkner again) Willie McBride (June Tabor) Susannah Martin (Triona Ni Donmhail with Relativity) The Highwayman (Loreena McKennitt) O.K., Susannah MArtin is written about the salem Witchcraft trials and technically isn't an Irish song. Still, it's a great song well suites for a woman's voice or as a duet and it tells a graet story. Best of luck and knock 'em dead, Neil


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 10:00 PM

Proposal and Acceptance!


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: M
Date: 01 May 00 - 02:01 PM

Brigid, check out the DigiTrad (you can access it at the top of the page)--the lyrics to "Kilkelly" are there. In my limited experience, I've only heard the rendition on "Music at Matt Molloy's," which is stark and beautiful. Also, Margaret is quite curious about your harmony to Johnny Lovely Johnny, so if its not too much, can you please send that along? Thanks.

Neil, you must have read our minds--Margaret learned Bonny Light Horseman last month and is teaching me a harmony. I suggested Johnny Has Gone For A Soldier to her, and just yesterday she commented that she didn't think she could do Willie McBride 'cause it was too emotional. Some people at the session just plow right through that and Waltzing Matilda without batting an eye. Thanks for the sugestions.

M


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Aoife
Date: 01 May 00 - 03:56 PM

There is a wonderful young singer called Kate Rusby who recorded an album in 1995 with Kathryn Roberts. All of these songs save two are traditional for two part voices, some a cappella, some with guitar. Donal Og is another wonderful song, although not on this album. Or "My johnny was a shoemaker," in a quick lively arrangement for 2 part voices- good luck


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Kim C
Date: 01 May 00 - 04:43 PM

Siul a Run - we usually do it with the verses in English and the chorusin Gaelic.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 01 May 00 - 10:29 PM

Ladies: Glad I could help. The Bonny Light Horseman is one of my favorietes. (I'm trying to learn to play it on guitar) I sing Johnny has Gone for a Soldier at Civil War reenactments and everyone seems to like it. AGain best of luck, Neil


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,walrus
Date: 02 May 00 - 03:02 PM

Two that I didn't see mentioned which may be of use:

"Hand me down my petticoat" - not old, Boer War vintage (although which Boer War?) or one of the Versions of "Plains of Waterloo" (the "Come all you loyal lovers...." one).

Good luck.

Walrus


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: AoifeO
Date: 03 May 00 - 01:30 PM

The Plains of waterloo is on the kate Rusby album- everyone should get it!


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Alice
Date: 03 May 00 - 03:19 PM

I posted more songs to this thread yesterday, but my message got lost in cyberspace. Just have a minute to write, so here's a suggestion. Type @Irish in the DT search box, then look at the many that come up - choose some new ones to learn that have lyrics appealing to you. Also, around St. Patrick's Day, many of us posted lists of songs we would be singing. Lots of choices there.

Alice


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Susan-Marie
Date: 03 May 00 - 04:37 PM

For two women, a version of the Two Sisters can be fun if you re-write it to end with the sisters pushing the young man in the water. Let Him Go, Let Him Tarry is also fun.

Since you said Scots was OK, how about Culloden's Harvest. The tune is in the DT midi book. It's a beautiful tune and a heartbreaking story - maybe good for later on in the session when people are getting melancholy!


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: GUEST,Sue Quick/Paul Burke
Date: 03 May 00 - 06:25 PM

What was that Oisin song?

As I come down the market place What d'you think I seen But a fine young piper laddie Come linkin over the green

singin hey daughter, ho daughter doorum doorum day...

Can't remember the rest, can't find it on Digitrad.

Sing in harmony, should sound stunning.


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Subject: Lyr Add: LOVE AND FREEDOM^^
From: Susan-Marie
Date: 04 May 00 - 09:17 AM

Posted by Ewan McVicar in another thread:

HEY DONAL', HO DONAL'
By Mary Brooksbank

As I cam by Strathmartine Mains
What dae ye think I see
But a braw young piper laddie come
A linkin' ower the green

Singin' Hey Donal', Ho Donal'
Dirrum a doo a day

He played a reel, an' he played a jig
An' he played a sweet strathspey
He roosed ma hairt till its beat kept time
Tae the tappin' o' my tae

Oh I've nae gowd tae offer ye
For I've gaithered little gear
But we'll hae love an' freedom
Gin ye'll follow me my dear

There's gowd in the broom o' the Sidlaw Hills
Honey frae the heather sweet
There's a speckled trout in the purlin' tarn
A velvet carpet neath oor feet

Syne he blew up his chanter
An' sic a spring he plays
That I chose love an' freedom
Now I wander a' my days

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 2-Sep-02.


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Subject: RE: Irish Songs for female singers
From: Alice
Date: 04 May 00 - 09:59 AM

The Magpie's Nest

The Fanaid Grove

The Gartan Mother's Lullaby

For Scottish songs, Tam Glen
Charlie Is My Darling
Country Lassie (these three are Burns).

Alice Flynn


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