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Thought for the Day (Jan 11)

Peter T. 11 Jan 00 - 09:37 AM
T in Oklahoma (Okiemockbird) 11 Jan 00 - 09:49 AM
catspaw49 11 Jan 00 - 10:33 AM
bob schwarer 11 Jan 00 - 12:35 PM
Little Neophyte 11 Jan 00 - 09:22 PM
catspaw49 11 Jan 00 - 09:46 PM
Rick Fielding 11 Jan 00 - 11:54 PM
sophocleese 12 Jan 00 - 12:10 AM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Jan 00 - 07:38 PM
Peter T. 12 Jan 00 - 07:57 PM
catspaw49 12 Jan 00 - 10:03 PM
bseed(charleskratz) 12 Jan 00 - 11:23 PM
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Subject: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: Peter T.
Date: 11 Jan 00 - 09:37 AM

As an ecologist, I am driven to make connections, so have begun thinking about music and natural ecosystems. Musicians have created "soundscapes" and "musical environments" for years; but for the moment, consider the reverse, the music of ecosystems. A recent study of birdsong suggests that one of the main reasons for the sound of different songs is that birds that frequent the middle of forests tend to have short sharp bursts of song so as to penetrate the leaf cover, while those that frequent the top of the forest or open land (like the lark at break of day ascending) have a more varied, extended song so as to differentiate themselves in the open.
Another example, that came out of a conversation with Rick Fielding who is having subtle problems with the sound of his main guitar, was an experience I had with a native elder in a Northern Ontario park who told me that her grandfather (another elder) had, in the early 1970's, complained about the fact that the sound of the forest had changed, that the wind at different times of the year had altered. It was later discovered that, due to acid rain, there have been substantial losses of leaf cover through the Northern Woods. She believed that her grandfather had sensed that change in pitch or timbre.
Lastly, the prayer flags of Tibetan Buddhists are part of their belief that the wind chants (and sometimes howls) the songs of enlightenment.
Examples, merely: straws in the wind of a larger theme.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: T in Oklahoma (Okiemockbird)
Date: 11 Jan 00 - 09:49 AM

Then there is the Mockingbird, who takes others' songs and improves on them. If birds had copyright, she would be called a "pirate" or an infringer.

The intellectual and artistic movement known as romanticism is full of flaws, excesses, and shortcomings. One positive element it had, though, was to help those educated in the European intellectual tradition gain an ability to respect some aspects of their own tradition, and others' that valued paying careful attention to the world around one.

T.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Jan 00 - 10:33 AM

Well that's all well and good, but what do I do about this heron pissing on my carpet? LMAO over the whole thing...I remain, Irreverentially Yours,

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: bob schwarer
Date: 11 Jan 00 - 12:35 PM

Roasted heron


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 11 Jan 00 - 09:22 PM

Peter, your Thought is a good reminder for me to take notice of the subtle influences that guide me to see connections and subtle changes in my life.

Catspaw, maybe the heron is wanting more attention from you. Why don't you spend some quality time with it. You know, take it fishing. Something like that.

BB


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Jan 00 - 09:46 PM

Dammit Bonnie, its PETER'S heron!!! I already have this clay possum, a bunch of hilljacks, and Rick's half brothers here......I can't put up with anything else full time. I'm just restringing his Telecaster, that's all. Geeziz, I feel like I'm trapped in Boy George's pants.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 11 Jan 00 - 11:54 PM

Hey Peter, I haven't a clue what the "heron" thing was all about to begin with,(and don't want to know) but thank you for the thoughts last night. I spent a long time on the net today trying to find some answers. Had difficulty even finding the right questions, but I'm going to keep looking. Thanks for getting me started.

Rick


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: sophocleese
Date: 12 Jan 00 - 12:10 AM

Spaw, you might find the information on this page useful.

http://www.godecookery.com/nboke/nboke23.htm

sorry about it not being a blue clicky, I'll learn one day but not tonight.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:38 PM

When Peter started off with words about trees, and then moved on to telling how he was taklking to "a native elder" I got concerned for a moment.

Prince Charles is supposed to talk to his trees, and his ancestor George III once mistook a tree in Windsor Great Park for the King of Prussia (not a wholly unrereasonable thing to do). But elders are notoriously spooky trees.

I've always understood that birds sing for very practical reasons. Most of the time they are saying "push off, you lot, this is my patch of wood", and sometimes they are singing "I'm in the mood for love."

Not that different from the rest of us really.

But the dawn chorus in a wood is really something. "We've made it through the dark", and all the songs overlapping and echoing off each other.

The nearest you get to that with humans is sometimes when you wander through a festival, late at night, and hear different types of music and singing coming at you from all the different directions, fiddles and banjos and squeezeboxes. And every now and again someone bellows "Shut up you lot, we're trying to get some sleep", and the dogs start barking and the babies start crying... The night chorus.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: Peter T.
Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:57 PM

Sorry, run out of time for Thoughts for the Day the rest of this week, so the space is free. Just to clear up the heron story (hah), it appeared innocently enough in a thought for the day on wild ecological spaces, and I made injudicious reference to the likeness of these marginal areas to mavericks like Waylon Jennings. A heron appeared in the same piece. Suddenly it appeared in Catspaw's imagination dressed as a Waylon heron, and things haven't been the same since. That is clear, I hope?

More recently, the bird missed a Delta flight back to Toronto, and was abducted by aliens who sent me a ransom note in Betelgueusean which I am not allowed to talk about until it is all cleared up, and the black bird is returned. The latest demand is for Persian carpets. Perhaps you have heard of the Knights of St. John, Mr. Spade? Well, sir, I don't mind telling you, I'm a man who likes talking to a man who likes to talk....
I guess that is pretty straightforward. Not much to do with global warming, except that herons will be affected.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Jan 00 - 10:03 PM

I think this may be a case for Blake Madison........Leej, where are you?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (Jan 11)
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 12 Jan 00 - 11:23 PM

Now that's a case for Blake Madison: The case of the Lonesome Radio Shackster. Have at it, guysngals.

He's probably in some space warp with Neil, still chasing Kerouack and Cassaday. Spaw, is Cleigh still safe at home? Moriarty has been seen in the neighborhood and the game is afoot.

--seed


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