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BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!

Bonzo3legs 14 Mar 21 - 05:22 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Mar 21 - 05:22 PM

I found a solution for joining stereo audio cable using of all things drip feed tubing, which was used to tie our grey's bandage cover!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Mar 21 - 09:18 AM

Good old cassettes - I fired up my 30 years old Sony Pro Walkman last week, the headphone socket is broken and the led indicators no longer work, but still plays as well as ever. Do you think I could find a cable with stereo 3.5mm jacks on each end? I had several with just one and bare wires at the other, so went on a joining crusade which is very fiddly indeed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Mar 21 - 09:04 AM

For something completely different, The same guy who invented the cassette tape also brought about the compact disk. Yesterday was the the day that the inventor of Music delivery died at 94. Lou Otten.

Amazon has exceeded all of Europen retail sales.
Amazon plus 3 other corp account for 21% of the entire US economy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jos
Date: 14 Mar 21 - 05:46 AM

Dave, I am hoping most ne'er-do-wells will be discouraged by the sound of voices (Radio 4) from inside.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Mar 21 - 04:54 AM

Jos, is leaving your door open not more of a danger from "passing ne'er-do-wells" than parcels on your step?


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 01:57 PM

Since Covid, most delivery drivers to here just ring the bell and walk away. Sometimes I see them, sometimes I don't. Goods are sometimes left in the porch and sometimes on the wood bunker just outside. I think most do take the weather into account.

We've had one or two leave an item outside the porch door. This can be a pain with a heavy or bulky item as the door opens outwards and it can mean going out through the living room sliding doors and walking round as you can't get the porch door open.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jos
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 01:21 PM

I leave my door ajar so that parcels can be left in the dry and out of sight from passing ne'er-do-wells. The postal deliveries usually manage to put parcels inside, but couriers dump them outside and take a photograph.
I would rather have my parcel left in a safe place, than have a photograph of it in an unsafe place.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 12:36 PM

I know - and I find that happens also. I see the email and go check the porch. Sometimes I hear the mail truck and check Informed Delivery to see what she put in the box.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 12:23 PM

The 2019 model that was over 200 was only 106. I got it today and everything fits. Its not a wide field so it won't work for sports but clouds, landscapes and wild life is good enough for me. For better photos I use a Leica Panasonic which is not omnipresent like a phone..
I have a reflector, a computer driven newtonian, mini binoculrss and this spotting scope kept in the car trunk. I was interested in new cameras like Go Pro and a camera that digitally focuses AFTER you take a picture but I'm happy with the old stuff.

This morning I checked on 'orders' and saw a picture of the box on the porch so I went upstairs and opened the door and ...sho nuff.
It was like checking the weather on TV instead of opening the door.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 11:45 AM

Prices do change, depending on the time of day you're looking at the site, etc. I've read about it but don't know know where I first saw that information. I'm sure you can search on it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 07:42 AM

I bought a Raynox DVR-2025PRO telephoto conversion lens with a 2.2x for my Fuji HS10 (now 10 years old!) so the maximum zoom I get is 2.2 x 30 = x66.

There is no way that I can hand hold and get a sharp picture on maximum zoom, in fact it's not easy to hold my camera steady with telephoto lens attached even on minimum zoom, so a tripod of some sort does help a lot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 06:24 AM

If you're talking about that monocular thing that keeps popping up in ads with me too, a few weeks ago I did some fairly extensive rooting around to find reviews of it. My firm conclusion was that you will not get what you pay handsomely for and, well, don't bother...


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 05:58 AM

Yeah. 80 power looks crappy but 20-60 looks fine. Its not as good as a go pro on a drone for big bucks but its quick and cheap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 05:26 AM

I've seen the adverts for that telescopic lens. Very good idea but probably difficult to hold steady, a selfie stick or better still a tripod would make life easier - plenty on Amazon!!! A camera "app" which provides manual control of speed/ apperture essential.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 05:07 AM

Yesterday I bought a 20-80 power telescopic lens for my i phone so I can take stills and videos for about a hundred dollars. I put it in my cart but there was already cat food in the cart. My wife later said he didn't and wouldn't buy cat food. The cats didn't say anything. So we got the cat food the same day. Its a mystery item.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 03:37 AM

Jesus Christ, shops are not open, we need something, Amazon can supply it, we order it - sod the cost!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Mar 21 - 03:26 AM

Basically Amazon seem to have a lower moral ethic in the advertising department.

It comes down to my mantra - "I buy, you don't sell to me" - the minute I see/hear selling I loose interest. There is a con coming. Part of the joy of ownership is the expectation, and if I have missed something that was there to see I can be circumspect. Not if there is subterfuge.

Basically do we need stuff? And by and large, no. So joy is paramount for owning stuff.

Does anyone know if this is the case? Is there a switch that the vendor can throw, to offer a lower price on first viewing? - I seem to remember suspecting that, the evidence was temptingly hinting when I bothered looking at Amazon. Or has Goggle clocked me as a person who looks around and compares?


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Mar 21 - 05:34 PM

I experienced a weird Amazon phenomena this week...

After googling for clarification, I found it seems to have plenty of other people puzzling as well..

I was having a usual random browse through Amazon guitar effects and synthesizer listings,
when I noticed a few arbitrary items
included an option to pay for them by 5 monthly interest free installments..

I know Amazon sells their own echo products on installments from time to time.
But was surprised to see a random range of products from other brands as well this time.

Obviously I bit the lure, and immediately chose to buy an item for £30 per month.

Then, after the purchase, I went back to choose a second installment purchase,
only to discover all the other instalment listings had disappeared...???

This is a unexpected pattern other UK Amazon users are reporting.

Whatever Amazon is playing at,
It's suckered me into looking into their website a bit more frequently just now,
in hope of some more surprise time-limited instalment listings...


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Mar 21 - 04:10 PM

Buyer beware.

The thing about shopping eBay is to also reduce the number of details sometimes to get the results you want. There are bargains to be had when people who list things don't really know what it is they're listing so describe it incorrectly or inadequately. Sometimes you have to keep looking if the item you want doesn't have a great long provenance.

Years ago I bought a stack of 5 stoneware lunch-size plates in a thrift store because I wanted a new look (I'd used Corelle for years when the kids were young). I knew I'd seen these around, but once I bought those the marketplace dried up. I found two more in a different color and was up to seven mis-matched plates. I tried describing them different ways and sometimes would see a related piece (the larger dinner plates, etc.). two weeks ago I spotted two bowls in the color and pattern and grabbed them, only to find that they're larger than the plates, so will use them as serving bowls. But after that small success I tried again and I finally landed on a product name and number that, using that in my search, found a stack of these plates in the size and color I wanted at Replacements.com. Image search is one way to achieve this (using Chrome, right click over a photo and in the lower part of the popup menu you'll see "search for image on Google.""

eBay used to charge per photo uploaded so I hosted them on Photobucket and linked my photos into my listings. That was years ago; eBay got smart and started encouraging photos, and the larger the better. Over 12 you may have to pay, but 12 is usually plenty. In my listings I always indicate that the photos are part of the description, so look at them carefully.

Amazon has a lot of companies that don't carry the same things all of the time and the brand names change or the descriptions vary for identical items. It does take cross-referencing, shopping eBay and Amazon and sometimes just Googling the item in question.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jos
Date: 11 Mar 21 - 01:13 PM

I bought an item from Ebay. It arrived this morning in Amazon packaging, obviously a new box, not recycled, and fastened with Amazon tape, and with a note saying "Thank you for shopping at Amazon.co.uk!"
I had paid £9.99 (postage free). I checked the price on the Amazon website - it is £7.99 (also postage free).
I feel cheated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Mar 21 - 04:23 AM

I watched "Lad - A Yorkshire Story" on Amazon Prime last night. Filmed around Settle with untrained actors and one of the best films I have seen for ages.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 Mar 21 - 02:39 AM

My latest E-Bay purchase came via Amazon. The packaging was sturdy and not excessive. Not a surprise but niggling.

I used E-Bay because the search is accurate, I wanted a particular brand to get the look & finish. These were plastic pockets and some come in anti-glare that ruins inspection what's inside. (too delicate to remove regularly). Amazon are pitiful on detail IME! It is as deliberate and vague as their Yapoo/Goggle results. E-Bay pages are a mixed bag but the system allows and encourages "detail". Call me an engineer, but detail matters! And so does "expectation met"!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Mar 21 - 12:06 PM

The entanglement of Google with Amazon and Facebook and Instagram is very clear on my phone - after the deep freeze of "Winter Storm Uri" hit Texas, many of us started restoring our emergency supplies and building a stockpile of fuel and emergency food. I in particular looked at emergency battery units (the size of a 12-volt car battery or larger, and some of them come with a solar charging panel). I'm seeing tons of ads from all of those battery companies come through my Instagram feed now. So Google and Facebook are paying close attention to my browser activity. I need to remember to use FireFox more, it has a "box" to put Facebook in as far as sharing my browsing history, but I don't think they have any restrictions on Google.

P.S. I haven't decided which battery backup to purchase, but am leaning toward a solar recharging one that doesn't cost the moon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Mar 21 - 02:30 PM

List your item as carefully as possible with lots of photos and possibly even a link to the instrument being played, and make it clear that you're selling as-is. That means you won't accept returns (and unless you ship a piano in place of the guitar you were offering, eBay doesn't insist you accept returns, though they'd like to.) Tell buyers to ask all of their questions before hand. Sell as "Buy it Now" so some noob doesn't jump in at the end of an auction and bid on something they didn't intend to buy then make a stink or cause a problem.

I don't buy some categories of things on eBay, because you can't be sure about the sellers. Ratings are important there, but so few people post ratings any more it's difficult to be sure what to think of some sellers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Mar 21 - 01:26 PM

A few years ago I was encouraged by online musician chatter
to consider selling off my excess hoarded music gear on Reverb;
the musicians equivalent of eBay..

Word at the time was that there were fewer
dishonest buyers and sellers infesting Reverb than eBay,
and Reverb fees were not as greedy as eBay..

Time-consuming family problems prevented me from doing so at that time.

Since then far more eBay crooks have moved to Reverb,
Reverb has been sold to to a less musician friendly corporation,
and the fees which used to be less than eBay ane now beginning to increase much higher..

It's a shame, because when post pandemic musicians feel more confident to start buying used gear again,
all online markets will probably be rancid with crooks and rip-off fees...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 21 - 12:45 PM

I was sent a whole bunch of very amateurishly-faked SD memory cards a while ago. The SanDisk labels were sort of stuck on but were crooked, and instead of the little blister packs they were each in a plain little plastic bag. Since then I've always bought them from reputable shops. I've had a few issues with eBay purchases too, and I don't buy stuff from eBay these days.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Mar 21 - 12:31 PM

I've had sellers offer refund, etc if I would change my review. On a couple of things that just didn't work or were misrepresented, I edited my review to say that I wasn't changing my review even after their offer. Buying off the negative reviews makes your product look better without making it better. Nope.

Mostly I've had good luck, but I do a lot of comparisons before hitting the "add to cart" button.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Mar 21 - 09:55 AM

"Even a minimum wage is better than nil." Amazon's starting wage is $15 an hour, better than the $7.25 minimum wage in the USA.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 Mar 21 - 09:04 AM

We needed a 12kg bag of Burns dry dog food - Amazon

We needed Tea Tree Wipes - Amazon

We needed 3.5mm stereo jack cable - Amazon

We needed rechargeable batteries - Amazon

We needed inkjet cartridges - Amazon

We needed a watch battery - Amazon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Mar 21 - 08:07 AM

well done jack, boycott them


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 21 - 07:50 AM

I bought a particular make of pulse oximeter from Amazon after reading reviews. I received instead an unbranded fake that looked nothing like the pic on the website. I contacted the seller, who said he'd give me a 10% refund if I kept it! I looked at his feedback and found that he'd done the same stunt a good few times before in recent weeks. I complained to Amazon and got an instant full refund, no quibbles. The chap never did ask for his oximeter back and I'm blowed if I'm paying to send it to him.

What am I bid for a very nice unbranded pulse oximeter, still in its box? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 07 Mar 21 - 07:19 AM

Managed to get a refund for my faulty knitting needle. They were not going to let me return it, as it was more than 30 days since I had purchased it, in anticipation of needing it later. However, under UK law, one is entitled to a refund or replacement for faulty goods for 6 months after purchase: and the onus of proof of goods being faultless falls on the seller. Pointed this out and got my refund! It didn’t cost a lot but it’s the principle!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 04 Mar 21 - 06:06 PM

Virtual picket line


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 02:49 PM

I know of one musician who has had his sole source of income swept away from him by Covid: he has gone to work for Amazon: he's probably not the only one. Even a minimum wage is better than nil.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 01:16 PM

The video discussion on Jack's earlier link is interesting. Much of it is known to people who shop at Amazon, and they have chosen to go with this business model.

Many of us were so glad that Bezos purchased the Washington Post and made Trump angry that we gave him some wiggle room to continue to build the empire.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 09:46 AM

Amazon as a branch of the US government


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jeri
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 05:02 PM

With the pandemic, Amazon can do things local businesses can't. Given that businesses are, by nature, competitive, and one that's already bigger and more powerful, is going to come out ahead. I try to buy from local businesses if I can. The main problems is that they just don't offer the same services.

except I just gave up on buying a certain art supply thing from Amazon, as they had the item mislabeled, and couldn't seem to fix the problem. So I bought it from a local place - one that's local to a few hundred miles away and has a big, shiny catalog, so I guess they're sort of a really huge mom and pop.

I've also bought hand-made shibori ribbon from a small business.

In Russia.

I'd feel guilty if the were into human trafficing or pedophilia, or something as heinous, but being good at selling stuff people want? Naaaah.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 02:49 PM

We both love Amazon, and use it quite a lot. Our village is rather far from town and most of the shops are shut anyway except for the supermarkets.
The couriers all know us and we give them a modest tip for their efforts.
I agree with Bonzo. If other businesses are not as competitive, charge higher prices and give less satisfaction, it's only to be expected that they'll crumble.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 01:31 PM

I don't care, it's business and they have a sound tax strategy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 12:38 PM

Amazon's destructive effects on other businesses and the wider social fabric:

https://www.indiebound.org/spotlightamazon


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 04:35 AM

With the moving of Argos into Sainsbury’s premises, it has become easier and more convenient to get to for us, in contrast to PFR’s experience: the double outlet is far nearer home than any of the previous Argos-only stores were.
And I just saw yesterday that we now have an Amazon pick-up point in our even more local Co-op store: haven’t had to use that yet, as we are doing as we are told and staying at home most of the time, apart from our daily permitted exercise.
Spoke to soon about no faulty goods: just went to use the circular knitting needle for the first time yesterday: one of the “patented joints” was disconnected. I pushed it back together but it fell apart again repeatedly. So it’s either going back or getting superglued!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 21 - 11:03 AM

Amazon can afford unionization. I am all for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 24 Feb 21 - 04:56 AM

Unionization efforts in Alabama

Thanks to Bernie Sanders for the link.c


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 09:00 AM

I try to remember to use Amazon Smile with each order. The donations go to Planned Parenthood of Greater Texas; it looks like 119 purchases have contributed to that so far.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: fat B****rd
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 04:53 AM

I realize there may be a moral decision with Amazons treatment of staff but for myself, confined to the house by caring family, it's handy to be able to obtain various items without waiting for somebody else's shopping trip.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 01:42 AM

Yes, I do, Jon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 08:24 AM

Does anyone else here use the Smile option for Amazon?


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Feb 21 - 08:52 PM

my phone rang & a female voice said she was calling from Amazon ...

unfortunately I automatically hung up so don't know which Amazon scam it was.

sandra (not an Amazon customer)


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Feb 21 - 12:08 PM

For people looking for a source of new versions of vintage products, the catalog for the Vermont Country Store is still sent out on paper via the mail. They have a web site also.

Soaps, candies, clothes, household products. It's an interesting look down memory lane but you can still buy these things.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thank goodness for Amazon!!
From: Raggytash
Date: 21 Feb 21 - 11:30 AM

To the tune of Greensleeves

I found my love in a grocery shop
selling pickles and egg plants and bottles of pop
she asked me to try her asparagus tips
and I fell for the smile on her ruby red lips


Green stamps were all she gave
and green stamps were all I took
green stamps were all I saved
and I pasted them all in my little stamp book


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