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BS: 2021 vaccination thread

Manitas_at_home 28 Feb 21 - 04:25 AM
Allan Conn 28 Feb 21 - 03:28 AM
BobL 28 Feb 21 - 03:01 AM
Joe Offer 28 Feb 21 - 01:05 AM
Tattie Bogle 27 Feb 21 - 03:43 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 21 - 01:32 PM
keberoxu 26 Feb 21 - 12:45 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 21 - 10:08 AM
robomatic 26 Feb 21 - 09:56 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 21 - 09:50 AM
Bonzo3legs 26 Feb 21 - 08:56 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 21 - 06:45 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 21 - 06:38 AM
Bonzo3legs 26 Feb 21 - 05:06 AM
WalkaboutsVerse 25 Feb 21 - 01:46 PM
Thompson 25 Feb 21 - 12:30 PM
Jos 25 Feb 21 - 04:06 AM
Helen 24 Feb 21 - 09:45 PM
keberoxu 24 Feb 21 - 09:16 PM
Stilly River Sage 24 Feb 21 - 10:24 AM
Steve Shaw 23 Feb 21 - 06:32 PM
Steve Shaw 23 Feb 21 - 06:31 PM
Steve Shaw 23 Feb 21 - 06:12 PM
Thompson 23 Feb 21 - 06:11 PM
Jack Campin 23 Feb 21 - 08:58 AM
Steve Shaw 23 Feb 21 - 08:38 AM
Nigel Parsons 23 Feb 21 - 08:35 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 04:25 AM

I wasn't expecting my vaccination until after my 65th birthday but I got my invitation and had it on Friday. Now I see they seem to have changed the age groups and the next group will be the 60-63 year olds. There were quite a few young people (early 20s) in the queue on Friday. I expect they were health care workers. This in England,BTW.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Allan Conn
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 03:28 AM

Re the anti-vaxxers! Round about where I am there obviously are anti-vaxxers but I think they are a lot less numerous on the ground than they are loud on the internet. The vast bulk of folks seem to be really keen to get their jags! The take up among the older age group has been very high indeed - far higher than the authorities expected. Among some of the age groups it is approaching virtually nearly everyone having the vaccination. In the high 90%s. It will be interesting to see how that continues down the generations. I suppose the more vulnerable you feel then the more likely you are to want a vaccination!

When the 65s and overs were done I was expecting to be in the next 60 to 64 group - but unless there is some other underlying condition we seem to have been pushed down the list a bit. Kind of frustrating when I pass the vaccination centre on my daily walk!!! ;-)

I know how Joe feels about just not touching on subjects with people you live with though! My wife and I are more or less in agreement with most things but we just need to avoid the Scottish independence subject as that causes real friction in this household and both parties are pretty set in their opinions.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: BobL
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 03:01 AM

We've had at least one on here who sarcastically thanked the rest of us for being his guinea-pigs

He's just as much a guinea-pig. He's the control.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 01:05 AM

Sometimes in threads like this, I can't figure out who's talking to whom. So, I'll just leave that part alone.

I'm living with two anti-vaxxers. My 31-year-old stepson is more vehement. He thinks this whole COVID thing is a government plot, so he takes no precautions and certainly won't get a vaccination. He's taken several cross-country flights in the last year, so he has had the opportunity to import germs from all over. I really was worried about catching something from him, so I've made an effort to stay away from him. He's kind of a recluse and stays in his room much of the time, so it's not that hard to stay away. He went after me with that anti-vaxxer propaganda when he was about 12. He had one of those author-published books that is full of factoids about the horrors of vaccines, and he had almost memorized that damn book - at the age of 12. I firmly stated that I listened only to medical doctors on medical issues, and I had no desire to argue with him.

Now he's 31 and has two-year degrees in computer science and statistics, and a bachelor's in Physics....and he still thinks he knows everything about medical science. Back in about March, he went on a long tirade about how Dr. Fauci and the epidemiologists were all wrong and he had developed a spreadsheet to prove it. I had no interest in his spreadsheet, and told him I wouldn't talk with him about epidemiology unless he's an epidemiologist with a medical degree. He got kinda scary, and yelled and slammed his door so hard I thought it would fall down. Since then, I have mostly avoided him except for making occasional remarks in his hearing about our "asshole President Trump." He has settled down a bit since the inauguration, but not much.

My wife is a chiropractor, now retired. She's very good at healing orthopedic issues, but I can't agree with her on medical stuff. She spent $2500 on a homemade machine connected to crystals in test tubes that the patient was supposed to hold in his/her hands. Then she hooked up with a guy who took blood samples from people who came to gatherings at our house that were like Tupperware parties, and then he'd give flaky analyses of their entire medical condition after a quick look at their blood through a microscope. He had no credentials of his own, so he was taking advantage of my wife's chiropractic license to add an illusion of credibility. I called him the "blood jerk." During one session, I blew up and told him before the group how full of shit he was. Then I demanded that my wife have nothing to do with him. She was making less than $900 a month, less than I was paying in taxes, and she had no liability insurance. I told her that she and the blood jerk had no assets, and I didn't want to expose my assets to that sort of quackery. So, she agreed not to host the guy anymore, but it was a difficult moment. I felt bad being a husband bossing his wife around like that, but I just couldn't expose myself to that sort of liability unless she could find a legal way to insulate me from that.

She has been relatively cautious about COVID, and I'm grateful for that. She takes more chances than I would, but she generally adheres to the guidelines for masks and distancing. I thought she was going to get the vaccine when it became available, but she told me last month, that she thought she'd pass it up and leave it to more deserving people.

This week, I had a conference about COVID with a group of Latinas and the county health officer, who is an acquaintance of mine. He's well-qualified as a public health physician, and he knows his stuff. He answered all the questions the ladies had, and it was a very good session. So, I was talking about this with my wife today, and she started asking all sorts of technical questions from her pseudo-scientific point of reckoning. I finally said I didn't want to talk about the matter and I didn't want to spend time researching it. I said I believe a lot of information because of the credibility of the sources, and I think Dr. Fauci and most of the professional epidemiologists have established themselves as more credible than self-anointed "experts" who can't even find a conventional publisher for their books.

So, it stands there. At least I have my COCID shots. It's difficult to live peacefully with people who are convinced of theories that are outside the conventional realm of truth. My wife and I simply don't talk about certain things.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 27 Feb 21 - 03:43 PM

Just heard from a friend who is recovering from a nasty attack of shingles (herpes zoster): she should have had a vaccination for that earlier last year, but this was delayed because of Covid! In the UK, this is offered to anyone over 70: it doesn't promise total protection from the disease, but does offer the hope of reduced symptoms if unluckily affected.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 01:32 PM

Cheers for that kind thought. I had it more severely last May, when I delayed getting help as I didn't know what was up (I hadn't even heard the word "cellulitis"). As the infection (by common bugs that live on everyone's skin) is in deep skin layers, the antibiotics don't get there very quickly. Yesterday the doc doubled my dose. I tolerate such things very well so the antibiotic doesn't upset me at all, and my leg feels much better today (though it isn't a pretty sight!). I actually feel fairly normal today, for the first time this week. Onward and upward!


Cellulitis is a common and serious disease that not enough people know much about. The infection starts via a break in the skin, very likely something insignificant. Once the germs are in, they can spread rapidly if they get into the bloodstream (as happened with me last year) and there is the danger of sepsis, which is often fatal. It's crucial to recognise the symptoms of cellulitis early and get help, even if it means going to the hospital emergency department.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: keberoxu
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 12:45 PM

Steve, I'm really sorry to hear about
the cellulitis and your leg,
it sounds truly horrible.
I hope those antibiotics do what they're supposed to do
and that you feel more like yourself very soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 10:08 AM

Well I've heard news of research on variant-proof vaccines too. As ever, they have to made, then tested for safety and efficacy. We're ok for now with what we've got, so let's wait and see.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: robomatic
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 09:56 AM

Thompson, I'm not sure that your description of a vaccine made from 'whole virus' defends against variants. By definition, the variants are not part of the original virus from which that vaccine was derived. There is of course a time element. After the vaccine is made from a particular virus at a particular date, the variants occur. No way can a vaccine anticipate the variant. To do that it would have to 'anticipate' what would happen, or attack a portion of the virus that remains invariant. By contrast, there are flu virus medications which attack all flu viruses such as Tamiflu, but you'll note it is a palliative, not a definitive 'cure' and flu vaccines come out every year and are not necessarily very effective.

We are all hoping that Covid-19 does not turn out to be a ready mutator such as flu. But we are learning it does mutate to some extent.

Please provide a source/ link for a statement such as yours.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 09:50 AM

Well I can't find references to any. The main contraindication is for anyone allergic to any of the contents of the vaccine. That would be very rare, and in any case the staff at UK vaccination centres have the training and wherewithal to treat anyone who has a rapid adverse reaction. Common allergens have not been used in the vaccines. If you know you have such an allergy you can ask and find out, and should. Allergies to peanuts, eggs, dust mites, cat hair and suchlike don't count. If you hear anyone giving you an excuse for not having the jab they're almost certainly bullshitting.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 08:56 AM

I think there may be certain medications are thought to clash adversly with contents of the vaccine.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 06:45 AM

Well I have a left leg like a blotchy balloon and I'm so stuffed with antibiotics that there's no room left for me dinner. My coronavirus test, ordered because the cellulitis gave me a fever, came back negative. I've checked, and being on huge doses of antibiotics is not a "medical reason" for not having the jab. I'll wear long pants and not mention it when I go.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 06:38 AM

There's hardly a "medical reason" on earth why anyone shouldn't have the vaccine. The percentage of people needed to be immune (via vaccine or catching the virus) needs to be in the high eighties or low nineties in order for us to get to herd immunity. Antivaxxers and namby-pamby vaccine-refusers (who love to proclaim their ignorance from the rooftops: we've had at least one on here who sarcastically thanked the rest of us for being his guinea-pigs before he decides whether, down the line, he should take the vaccine) will seriously hamper efforts to get the virus under control, and more people will suffer and die. The side effects are either slight and transient or non-existent and all the vaccines are safe and effective. Even the Queen was rolled out to tell us that (and good for her, say I). I'm having mine on Sunday and bloody wild horses wouldn't stop me.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 05:06 AM

Those who refuse the covid vaccine are selfish (except for medical reasons of course) and we all know the "doubting Thomas" types who do!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Feb 21 - 01:46 PM

Why can't our scruffy clumsy PM, Boris Johnson, just say "hello" instead of going within a metre of so many people to touch elbows?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Thompson
Date: 25 Feb 21 - 12:30 PM

There's a new French vaccine made by Valneva which is made from the whole virus, and so works against all variants. It's likely that this will be used not only as a two-shot vaccine, but also as a booster shot for those who've had all other vaccines. The UK has optioned 40 million doses.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Jos
Date: 25 Feb 21 - 04:06 AM

Newsreaders on the radio this morning are expressing surprise and delight at the high levels of antibodies among people who had the Pfizer vaccine - PARTICULARLY among those who had also HAD THE VIRUS.
Well, what did they expect.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Helen
Date: 24 Feb 21 - 09:45 PM

keberoxu, did you get out of doing housework for four days? :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Feb 21 - 09:16 PM

Four days later,
the muscle/arm where the injection went in
is pretty much back to normal,
but whoa!
Was it ever swollen and touchy with pain for a few days.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Feb 21 - 10:24 AM

FDA review confirms safety and efficacy of single-shot Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine, especially against severe cases

Washington Post, February 24, 2021

A Food and Drug Administration review released Wednesday of the single-shot coronavirus vaccine made by pharmaceutical giant Johnson & Johnson found it was safe and effective and completely prevented hospitalizations and deaths in a large clinical trial.

The review sets the stage for a third coronavirus vaccine to be authorized as soon as this weekend, a point of hope in the middle of a pandemic that has killed more than a half-million people in the United States.

The review, although positive, was more nuanced than regulators’ assessments of the first two coronavirus vaccines, reflecting a pandemic that has entered a more complicated phase as variants capable of slipping by some aspects of immunity have emerged. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine was more than 85 percent effective at preventing severe illness, including in a region dominated by a concerning variant, but only 66 percent protective overall when moderate cases were included.

The FDA scientists found that the “known benefits” of the vaccine included reducing the risk of symptomatic and severe cases of its disease, covid-19, at least two weeks after vaccination. The review found vaccine efficacy against severe covid-19 “was similarly high across the United States, South Africa, and Brazil.”

“We know this vaccine prevents 85 percent of the severe disease. . . . It was 100 percent effective in preventing hospitalization and deaths, and that’s really what’s important,” said Nancy M. Bennett, a professor of medicine and public health sciences at the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry. “Those facts are the most important thing to recognize.”

The vaccine was less effective in a subgroup of adults older than 60 who also had risk factors for severe illness, but regulators noted there were no deaths or cases requiring medical intervention a month after those older adults received vaccines. Overall, there were seven deaths in the trial, all in the group that received a placebo.

An external committee of scientific experts is scheduled to meet Friday to recommend whether the FDA should authorize the shot. If the regulatory deliberations follow the path of the previous two authorized coronavirus vaccines — a joint vaccine from U.S. pharmaceutical giant Pfizer and German biotech firm BioNTech, and one from U.S. biotech company Moderna — a decision could come this weekend.

Public health officials have eagerly awaited the arrival of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine because it is expected to streamline the logistics of a complicated mass vaccination campaign. The vaccine can be stored in a refrigerator for several months, which should ease the challenges of distributing frozen products, and it doesn’t require a follow-up visit for a booster shot.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 06:32 PM

Then none


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 06:31 PM

Whilst I agree with your sentiment that it's not the roads that are dangerous, it's some of the particular drivers who are idiots who use them (an argument I make meself all the time), Thompson, I was specifically thinking of pedestrians who might want to walk to Bude from where I live. From here, the first mile of the single-carriageway A39 is bendy and narrow in places and has no footway or refuges. The speed limit is 60. If every driver in that stretch was a saint, the road would still not be safe for pedestrians. Further on there's a short stretch of footway, then one. It's possible to get off the road after a mile and a half and walk into town along the canal, a completely unlit stretch in remote country. It's hardly an attractive proposition and, for that mile and a half, you are sort of taking your life in your hands (I've done it a few times). That's just the way it is.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 06:12 PM

Well the nearest I can ever get mine done is ten miles away. I've long advocated universal free public transport, including a massive uplift for it in rural areas. If you didn't have to pay to go anywhere, most people would put up with the inconveniences of longer journey times and stations not quite being in the right place for them. And if anyone knows where there's a statue of Beeching, the Cornish Army would soon know what to do with it. The Tamar is deep...


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Thompson
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 06:11 PM

The way the world is, many rural areas would be devoid of people but for cars. I live four miles out of town with no usable pathway, the A39 round here is notoriously dangerous and public transport is next to non-existent. So how would you like it to be, and who do you think the real shitbags are?

By "the A39 round here is notoriously dangerous" do you mean the drivers on that road are notoriously dangerous, Steve?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 08:58 AM

at particular trip, Jack. Not only would it be carting you to and from the centre, it would be coming from the taxi rank to your house to pick you up then doing the reverse journey after taking you home.

She didn't get one specially made for the trip. Most of the resource footprint of a car is in getting it made, shipped and disposed of. Fuel is probably a bit higher for taxis because they run such high mileages; the balance is much worse for electric cars because their materials require such enormous energy inputs and destructive mining.

The place I had mine done was within walking distance.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 08:38 AM

Mutual interest rules OK...


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 08:35 AM

Nice to see that you can still get your European wines, despite earlier fears ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 07:03 AM

Well I've booked for Sunday afternoon. As it's in Holsworthy, ten miles away, and with Holsworthy having a Waitrose, I might take the opportunity to nip in and buy a few bottles of the superb Stemmari Nero d'Avola, currently on offer. Otherwise, under lockdown, I should think that driving ten miles to a supermarket when there are several in Bude would be somewhat stretching the bounds of morality. I'll not be gainsaid on this. I wish to support the Sicilian economy (and I've been to Avola...)


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 06:09 AM

Well I'm convinced the result will be negative. We ordered the test as a kneejerk when I got the fever, which then turned out to be the cellulitis. As the cheerful doc told me, you can get both, you know! Anyway, I'll either leave it until I get the result or make a speculative booking today...


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 05:38 AM

Previously a positive test result meant you couldn't have the jab for 28 days. I have been told (uncorroborated) that this time lag has now been reduced to 10 days.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 05:05 AM

Got my invite for the first jab five minutes ago, Charlie! Can't act on it until I know whether we've got to keep self-isolating, so I await the test result with baited breath...


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 05:01 AM

Er, a taxi would be even more destructive on that particular trip, Jack. Not only would it be carting you to and from the centre, it would be coming from the taxi rank to your house to pick you up then doing the reverse journey after taking you home. Have you got a pushbike?

The way the world is, many rural areas would be devoid of people but for cars. I live four miles out of town with no usable pathway, the A39 round here is notoriously dangerous and public transport is next to non-existent. So how would you like it to be, and who do you think the real shitbags are?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: fat B****rd
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 04:48 AM

P***ing down just now ! who cares. Had my first jag last Friday and side effects for a couple of days. Much better now apart from terminal sloth. My 57 year old stepson-in-law had a heart attack a couple of years ago so he's due his jag on Sunday, Vacwise things seem to be moving along in Fife. Take care


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 04:44 AM

Brilliant idea from a friend of mine: if the algorithm wants to send you to a nearby centre which is exclusively drive-through but you aren't a destructive shitbag with a car, take them up on it anyway and get a taxi to drive you through.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Allan Conn
Date: 23 Feb 21 - 02:40 AM

Cellutitis! Wishing you a speedy recovery Steve.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 06:31 PM

That's very kind, Charlie. Thank you. Hope it's not too grim up north!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: fat B****rd
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 06:05 PM

Whatever, I hope you are better soon, Steve.
Sending good thoughts from Dunfermline
Charlie


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:48 PM

I have a feeling that you're on the wrong wavelength, Donuel. My immune system is in good nick, thanks. Anyone who gets severe cellulitis needs a bit of a boost in order to avoid sepsis (which nearly carried me off last May). It's bacterial, by the way. I doubt whether anyone's ever counted the "strains".


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:42 PM

Thanks, Bonzo. Don't worry, as long as I remain sentient and retain at least one typing finger, I'll be up 'n' at yer in no time!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:22 PM

I don't know about the cheerful part but your immune system has faced an extraordinary number of infections, perhaps from your penchant for travel. If you do get infected the good news is that there is a surplus of monoclonal antibody treatments for people in a risk group.

There are over 4,000 varients but a strain is a predominate highly successful varient that exceeds the others in infection, spread and severity.

I am still too young for the current vaccine jab over here.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:08 PM

That's terrible Steve, hope you get back to form soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 04:51 PM

Much appreciated, Nigel. I always try to stay cheerful...


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 04:22 PM

Steve:
Hope it passes off soon.
Cheers!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 04:17 PM

Call me Mr Unlucky, Allan. I had a high fever on Saturday night and spent all day yesterday in bed, aching all over, sweating like a bull, heart going like the clappers and with the mother and father of a headache. Mrs Steve and I slept in separate beds for the first time in this house in 34 years (because I was stinking). Mrs Steve suspected coronavirus so she promptly ordered me a test kit. The upshot of that ordering is we both have to self-isolate. I thought I had flu, even though I've had the jab. Wrong again. I woke up this morning with a severe case of cellulitis, my second in a year. The fever's gone but I'm as weak as a kitten. Hoping the the antibiotics are beginning to kick in... I can hardly walk, as the infection started in my foot. A right pickle...

And I STILL haven't had me first jab! If (when) the test comes back negative (Wednesday, I hope) at least we'll be released from prison. Last year I ended up in A&E. Better luck this time!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Allan Conn
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 12:00 PM

Initial results from the data in Scotland appears to show a massive decrease in hospitalisation among people who have had just one jab of either Pfizer (85% reduction in hospitalisation) or Astrazenca (90% reduction in hospitalisation). Overall results not known yet as they still need to compare data for deaths in care homes - but never the less they are describing the effect of the vaccinations as spectacular!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Feb 21 - 05:21 AM

Chap aged 32 here in Britain was mysteriously offered the vaccine way out of turn. When it was looked into they found that "the system" had recorded his height as 6.2cm instead of his real height, 6'2". That made his BMI 28000, so "the system" concluded that he was a super-urgent case. :-)

He admitted that he was a bit podgy but nothing special. When he told his mum about it, she looked at him sternly and said, Let that be a wake-up call." :-) :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Helen
Date: 21 Feb 21 - 03:51 PM

Yesterday a few lucky people got the vaccination in Australia.

One guy jumped the queue. Scotty from Marketing, i.e. our PM. I guess he did it as a marketing strategy to convince all Aussies to get it.

So, we are at the beginning of the long path to herd immunity.

The list is prioritised. My appointment won't be until maybe late April to late May.

Bring it on!! :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Feb 21 - 01:09 PM

I am appalled at the degree of whinging going on here in Charlottesville by people trying, and failing, to jump the line.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 21 Feb 21 - 11:13 AM

Boris Johnson confirms that every UK adult will be offered a jab by the end of July -which means that within 17 months of the first recorded Covid-19 cases everybody could be jabbed. Incredible achievement! Thanks to all involved.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2021 vaccination thread
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Feb 21 - 07:24 PM

About time that the original poster to the thread
got vaccination dose number 2.

It's eight hours later.
Apart from a burning sensation in the shoulder
of the arm that got the vaccine
(started out as an itch, after the shot),
no complaints.
But there's still time for some of the other side effects.

Anyway, THAT'S done and I have got the
all-important vaccination card to prove it.


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