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BS: A person of color and a colored person

robomatic 20 Nov 20 - 11:49 PM
Mrrzy 21 Nov 20 - 12:54 AM
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meself 21 Nov 20 - 11:49 AM
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Steve Shaw 21 Nov 20 - 12:39 PM
Mrrzy 21 Nov 20 - 01:54 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: robomatic
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 11:49 PM

I worked with a guy in Alaska who had a Scottish family name. He looked more South American than Scottish, and in fact, I learned later, was Guatemalen born and adopted into an American family of Scottish derivation. My co-worker totally adopted, in his turn, his family's ethnicity. He would practice bagpiping in the stairwells when we worked late. I learned later he went to Scotland to meet others of the lineage and was treated like one of the clan.


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 12:54 AM

I don't capitalize much these days. I am also against stressing individual differences rather than commonalities.


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 02:51 AM

and you CAPITALISE [please not original spelling] Grey?


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: meself
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 11:49 AM

"CAPITALISE [please not original spelling]"

"The -ize spelling is often incorrectly seen as an Americanism in Britain. It has been in use since the 15th century, predating -ise by over a century." - Wikkpedidia

What do you have against the original spalling?


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 12:03 PM

Spelling pedants may find more of significance in how "coloured" and "colored"
relate to and impact on this issue
either side of the Atlantic...???


["collared" having far more sinister connotations...

.. and how culturally insensitive is the fetish scene "slave collar"...!!!???]


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 12:39 PM

Use either -ise or -ize in the UK. Use only -ize in the US. meself is quite right. It always amuses me when Brits huff and puff about this.


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 01:54 PM

Gray, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: meself
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 02:20 PM

... um ... how about "Wikkpedidia" and "spalling?" Mea cupla! I mean, culpa ... ! I mean, a couple for me .....


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 02:32 PM

If we're onto spelling howlers, I have dozens up my sleeve from my teaching days.
I asked my class of 7yr olds to write a lovely presents wish-list for Father Christmas, and decorate it with pictures of angels, holly and so on.
One dear little girl wrote in huge wonky letters "I want a pair of tits". I often wondered if Father Christmas obliged.
Another class was set to write a story about a knight. I suggested they describe his horse (description was everything) and name it with an inspiring name. One boy wrote, "His hores was big and strong and had big feet, It was corld Fluffy."
Finally, another story was set in the Middle Ages, and a child wrote "The men went out to cut the corn. The fields were humming with incest."


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Nov 20 - 05:32 PM

There are important aspects of racism that need to be dealt with,Being politically correct or using the latest correct terminology is not paramount in fighting racism, there have been examples quoted in this thread of the confusion and contradiction of different terms meaning different things in different places, what has happened is that the political establishment has got cleverer it wants to give the impression of political equality, we now have in the uk people like priti patel. and a us president obama, they are still the man in the mask, they allow at last different puppets in of different hues to help run their exploitation gee we had two brown puppets, obama and patel, but who pulls the strings.and there is still inequality between races and in societyThe Man in the Mask

Notes: words and music by Malvina Reynolds; copyright 1971 Schroder Music Company, renewed 1999. A portrait of Richard Nixon, and Richard Nixons in general.


Come sit down beside me before the big T.V.
And watch the funny pictures they have there to look at,
Shampoo for your hair and the last polar bear,
And the man on the moon who was walking around
Then left, leaving junk on the once virgin ground.

There's old timey movies with old fashioned dresses,
The kidnap of babies and other such messes,
There's football and baseball and guys selling cars,
And then there's The Man in the Mask.

Chorus:
They say it's his face, but I just can't believe it.
It looks like a mask that I saw in the store.
It talks with deep feeling about ending some war
And stopping inflation, and it's so fantastic,
You'll cry while you're laughing, and roll on the floor.

Every four years he puts a new mask on.
Each one is worse than the one he had before,
But the words are the same and the same earnest manner,
About ending inflation and stopping the war.

The sponsors paid out a million of millions
To get him up there with his magic routine,
But it's really a bargain, 'cause there's such a margin
In war and inflation and the big T.V. screen
That gives us The Man in the Mask.


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Subject: RE: BS: A person of color and a colored person
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 04:28 PM

I won't do the PC thing if it just stresses differences instead of commonalities.


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