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BS: Brexit & other UK political topics

punkfolkrocker 21 Apr 21 - 04:27 AM
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Jos 18 Apr 21 - 08:46 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Apr 21 - 04:27 AM

brexit + covid + Ever Given = most items on my Amazon wishlist
becoming out of stock, or substantially increasing in price...

[..and severely restricted delivery options for items from Amazon EU]

In 2021 brexiteers are so lucky they have pandemic and a shipping traffic jam to shift the blame on...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 20 Apr 21 - 02:31 PM

The Kent Access Permit was a scheme introduced to avoid freight vehicles arriving at the ports without the correct export documentation. The fear was that there would be long queues of traffic stuck in Kent. That problem seems to have been avoided. Now people are more aware of what export documentation is required.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Apr 21 - 02:24 PM

interesting does this mean more bureucracy?
What was the necessity of the kent access permit, it must have been unworkable


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 20 Apr 21 - 02:15 PM

Some news from Kent

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Two major measures to avoid HGV congestion after Brexit are being removed in the coming days.

The first to go will be the Kent Access Permit, a document that ensured all lorry drivers had the correct paperwork to cross the border.

Legally-required by all heavy goods drivers entering the county, as of today they will not be needed.

The second scheme to be removed is the M20 contraflow system, with work beginning on Saturday
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Ferry news

A new freight service is to be launched between Kent and France, creating around 100 jobs.

Ferry operator DFDS says the new freight-only service will start operating between Sheerness and Calais from June.

It will offer one daily sailing in each direction between the two ports on ship Gothia, which can carry up to 165 unaccompanied freight units - which are trailers or containers without drivers.

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A leading union has hit out at plans for Irish Ferries to run a Dover to Calais service later this year - accusing it of having "an appalling safety record" and crewing its vessels "almost entirely with eastern European seafarers".

The National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers (RMT) says it fears for jobs and the local economy could be at risk when the cross-Channel service launched in June.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 04:26 PM

Weirdly twisted article, obviously a collective effort by a bunch of actvists with bugs up their collective arse. (Slate seems to be controlled by a few "libertarian" cranks).

"Morbidly obese" means life-threatening illness. It would give the kids more chance in life if their parents simply sodomized them every night. Of course social services aren't going to let children get forced into slow death.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 02:01 PM

My link did not work, sorry!

https://slate.com/technology/2021/04/child-separation-weight-stigma-diets.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 01:34 PM

Who was making it news, anyway? Murdoch or Taiwanese-fascist-owned media?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 12:43 PM

I can imagine it might happen anywhere if the parents are deliberately making their kids dangerously obese. Or in cases of Prader-Willi syndrome where the parents can't cope.

There's no policy about it anywhere I know of.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 09:55 AM

Is this a political thing? It is British but might be New News Not About The Virus...

Putting fat kids in foster care?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 08:38 AM

Regularly updated tally of job losses due to Brexit:

The Digby Jones Index


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 09:21 AM

I saw a little bit of the synchronised funny skip walk behind the coffin...

Now I genuinely admire highly skilled and disciplined military precision,
but they know just how daft they can look...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 09:08 AM

Pfr, I watched it last night, but only from the bit where the band was playing just before he was loaded on to the Landrover - I couldn’t be arsed with all the sycophantic bullshit and bollocks of the preceding couple of hours. Although I’m not particularly enamoured of the Royals, I did regard his death and funeral as very significant events in our history and, as such, worthy of my attention.

But it’s each to his own, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 09:02 AM

Still a simple matter to zoom in for a close-up, or crop that shot down to a close-up of the Queen, giving the impression of ‘loneliness’ is all I’m saying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jos
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 08:46 AM

This is the picture I saw - maybe a two-seat gap, but really not far apart.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 07:32 AM

A later BBC news headline was [paraphrased from memory]

"Two brothers speak to each other at family funeral*

ferfaksake,,,!!!???



Tomorrow's dramatic breaking news..

"Siblings don't always get on well with each other - further reports throughout the day
as the the situation devekops....!!!"...

wot a load of bollocks...


I've got cousins - two sisters - who live next door to each other on a council estate,
and they've refused to speak to each other for years,
f@k knows what they fell out about,
Who gives a shit...

Maybe the BBC news channel...???


No, funnily enough I didn't bother watching the royal funeral...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 07:04 AM

Jos, he was sitting well away - at least three or four seats - from the Queen, and he didn’t ‘get up to make his speech’, there were no family speeches, just the Dean, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and another guy in fancy-dress doing their stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jos
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 06:54 AM

I didn't watch the funeral but I keep seeing the picture of her majesty sitting all alone and sad.

I also saw a photograph of her sitting in the same pew, with Prince Andrew sitting in the next-but-one seat. So she wasn't really on her own.

I can only assume he got up to do his speech, and the photographer(s) took the opportunity to take an "emotional" picture.

Tell me if I am wrong, anyone who did watch. Otherwise, it just looks like press manipulation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 05:28 AM

"Ithought an accountant might be able to explain"

And if an accountant had explained, would you have believed it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 05:13 AM

Ithought an accountant might be able to explain, was Denis Skinner right, was david cameron, dodgy dave?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 03:11 PM

GREENSILL COLlAPSE ,what has been going on?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 12:15 PM

Well, I just watched Fils phuneral and it was pretty spectacular. Us Brits do pomp and circumstance well. If nowt else.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Vincent Jones
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 12:08 PM

Third cousins. Not that distant.

It's a fairly limited gene pool - I wouldn't be surprised if the Queen's corgis had haemophilia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 09:41 AM

International royals are interbred for pedigree.
But like Crufts,
caution and limits must be observed to avoid the worst consequences of over closely related interbreeding.

Funny how our national mascot bulldog
is so riddled with chronic degenerative genetic health deficiencies..

At least the royal breeders have so far managed to enhance the life expectancy
of the best specimens of their designer offspring.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jos
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 09:27 AM

Oh, I see - a rather distant cousin, then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 07:49 AM

Jos:
I think it was a reference to both Elizabeth & Philip being descended from Victoria.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jos
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 06:38 AM

I was totally unaware that the queen had lost a cousin. Which one, assuming she has more than one? The news might have reached me, although only of passing interest, except that no other news was allowed that day - no Boris, no covid deaths or vaccinations, no brexit trade snarl-ups, no random shooting, probably no football (but that's one thing I wouldn't have noticed, never mind missed), no, just no anything ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 05:23 AM

Can I stop mourning after today please?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Vincent Jones
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 04:50 AM

It's so sad that the Queen lost her husband and her cousin on the same day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 04:09 AM

..... it would be interesting to see who talks to Harry!

Interesting? Hmmm? ....... Nah! - it wouldn't.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Apr 21 - 03:50 AM

It's Phil's funeral today. I guess it will be televised? I won't go out of my way to watch it but it would be interesting to see who talks to Harry!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: robomatic
Date: 14 Apr 21 - 10:25 AM

When Mandela passed we endured a week of curated retrospectives which didn't add much to the global level of intelligence. And that was pre-Trump.

In the wake of Prince Philip, for some reason BBC 4Extra abandoned their regular programming and were mirroring BBC 4 which was mirroring BBC World Service. They're back to normal now but it was rather puzzling as I didn't see or hear any explanation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 13 Apr 21 - 02:46 PM

To misquote Melvin "Sy" Oliver and James "Trummy" Young.

Tain't What You Say (It's the Way That You Say it)


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Apr 21 - 02:26 PM

Which words are we not allowed to say...???

I might need a little reminder,
as I've been absent away from strict mudcat community dictates
too much this year...

A bit like a young Amish returning home,
after a short taste of freedom in the big outside English world...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Apr 21 - 08:21 AM

I'll put it on Facebook, I'm not a good texter
I've just seen Prince Philip's spectre
I knew it was him, with my medium's knack.
He still had both hands behind his back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 21 - 04:10 AM

That's the one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Apr 21 - 02:52 AM

i am guessing you must be talkimg about shirley williams?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Apr 21 - 01:57 AM

who has died?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Apr 21 - 01:13 PM

She played a massive part when it came to keeping Thatcher in power. A lightweight, unprincipled opportunist. No tears this end.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 Apr 21 - 08:31 AM

how exciting a chance of reading filed accounts of Brick by Brick Croydon Ltd on the Companies House website,Yippee


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Apr 21 - 08:29 AM

Imposed mourning has a real feel of North Korea about it...

Is it OK to not mourn and turn off all the guff on the telly?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Apr 21 - 08:13 AM

You may care to look at the recently filed accounts of Brick by Brick Croydon Ltd on the Companies House website, which has the most qualified auditor's report I have ever seen - the company being the play thing of the most useless labour council in the UK!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Apr 21 - 08:03 AM

Yes it is, and quite rightly so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 12 Apr 21 - 06:43 AM

The mourning period is probably an established royal protocol.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 07:47 AM

And here we go again with Tory sleaze, lots of dodgy (though still technically legal) lobbying and cronyism going on. The worrying thing is that these things don't seem to matter any more. The more bad things the Tories do, the higher their poll ratings go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 07:35 AM

It certainly has something of a ring of ‘totally-OTT’ about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 07:13 AM

I note that the Beeb has been so overwhelmed by complaints that they have grossly overdone the tributes that a dedicated web page for complaints has been opened. In turn, the vicious anti-Beeb brigade has accused the Beeb of thereby positively encouraging complaints. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. I'd also add that "declaring eight days of national mourning" has the distinct ring of totalitarianism about it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 07:02 AM

{{Deep, Heartfelt Sigh}}

Dick, all of Bonzo’s Prince Philip threads have been closed or **disappeared**, presumably because of posters’ bad behaviour. Please don’t get this, our one permitted U.K. Politics thread, closed too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 05:24 AM

Elsewhere.... indeed ...Troublemaking agitators in Croydon should be silenced, perhaps capital punishmen, take agitators from croydon and put them in the stocks in the capital


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Apr 21 - 05:18 AM

As from tomorrow up to 30 people can attend funerals. I understand that at Philips funeral the royal family intend to adhere to that. Good on them but it is difficult to see how they could do anything else. Of course if it was, heaven forbid, any of Boris's family there would be an exeption...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: DMcG
Date: 09 Apr 21 - 11:41 AM

During WW2, Princess Elizabeth (as was) was quite keen on going through what the rest of the population was, in the ATS, training as a mechanic and so on.

It would be quite something if she decided that the covid rules for funerals should apply to her.


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