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BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7

Donuel 11 Jun 20 - 04:52 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jun 20 - 04:52 PM

My mail in ballot could be invalidated since the return envelope was partially sealed and I had to tear it slightly to open it. Like counting chads one could claim it was tampered with. Stacy Abrams also claimed her return envelope ballot was totally sealed shut.

IOWA WINS THE TrUMP RALLY ON JUNE TEENTH
Instead of celebrating freeing the slaves Trump will have his racist rally on the same day. Trump will encourage no masks and make no mention of the pandemic. good luck Iowans.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Jun 20 - 09:39 AM

... and there is still concern about
the primary election in Maryland
which was one week ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Jun 20 - 09:22 PM

. . . and then there was George McGovern, remember him?
"Come home, America!"

The late columnist Shana Alexander wrote
with typical world-weariness,
that "Come home, America!"
reminded her of
"a decent man calling his cocker spaniel from the back porch."


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jun 20 - 05:59 PM

What Trump wants is a maskless rally-convention as usual.
I heard his new slogan "Make America come back again"

If memory serves, McCain's slogan was "Take America back"


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Jun 20 - 03:55 PM

9 June has turned into another Super Tuesday
in the series of US state primary elections.
State primary elections
that were previously scheduled at an earlier date,
and then postponed
due to the coronavirus pandemic,
have sort of piled up today.

Reports from the state of Georgia
are troubling, with accusations about
disruptions in the voting process through
everything from machines breaking down
to the closing of some polling places.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 May 20 - 10:01 AM

Now it has come to this:

The Tuesday after the first Monday in November --
sacrosanct for Election Day in the USA,
as per a federal statute.

Now the current US President's son-in-law,
in his capacity as 'senior White House advisor,'
has blurted out in a Time Magazine interview
that November's Election Day
is included in many things that
a second outbreak of coronavirus could change --
and today, he retracts the statement.

But that he made the statement in the first place ...


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 09:12 AM

So far 20 cases of Covid resulted from voting

Meat packers are protesting. If they don't show up for work they won't get unemployment. When the government says work or give up unemployment insurance we know why there is this push to 'officially open' business.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 11:11 PM

Interesting to watch state of Ohio presidential primary today;
a handful of in-person voters
practicing social distancing
and wearing face masks at the polls,
and many other people voting by mail.
The news journalists are considering this one example
as something that may have to be followed
as long as COVID-19 has the better of us.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Mar 20 - 05:21 PM

Thomas Frank talk at Kansas City Public Library

I hour long, I haven't got to the end of it, but what I get from him is:

1) The Democrats have shifted emphasis from the blue collar workers of FDR and the depression to the winners - the lawyers, lecturers, Doctors, PhDs etc classes,

2) the Republicans have stolen the phrases of the FDR era and make Trump look like working class (huh?).

The image that came to me was a graph of the US political scenery, with Repubs Right, Democrats on the left, but there is a vertical dimension (aka money), where the democrats have moved up-market. Trump has mined the under-belly that the Dems have not talked to with enough conviction.

Maggie Thatcher did much the same. She appealed to the working class Tories. Go figure.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mr Red
Date: 17 Mar 20 - 05:15 AM

last night on UK TV Channel 5 - Henry VIII & Trump: History repeating?

The premise was to compare the similarities. Yea Yea there are differences, but the similarities will alarm you.

1) Second son, inherited by the death of elder brother. Tries harder to prove himself.
2) Married his mistress as second trophy wife and it didn't go well.
3) First wife demonstrated power/success to outshine husband. Ego couldn't take it.
4) Tyrannical, ruthless hiring/firing often, eg beheading/jailing.
5) recruited from below establishment tier of advisers, yes men, beholden!
6) tore up the rule book. Messy chaotic decision making.
7) throws so many curve balls no-one can deal with them all, confuses everyone.
8) countered print/cyber criticisms as treason/fake news. Uses the technology of the day to promulgate his vituperation - print/twitter.
9) Philanderer/lothario.
10) Trump's 47th birthday party invite showed a picture of him on a throne, sword in hand, girl at feet. Holbein painted Henry to emphasise his power, towering over family. Ego personified.

Now the extrapolation:

Henry 8 left a power vacuum behind that descended into in-fighting and rapid switches. And (get this) the pundits looked to Queen Liz 1 and then to Ivanka and compared their strategies. And the strap line was:
as bizzare as it sounds, but don't bet against Ivanka being the first female president".

Many thought Twitler wouldn't get there! We are living in interesting times!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Mar 20 - 03:19 PM

Just because candidates drop out of the presidential running,
they won't drop out of sight, after all.
Far from it --
we are still some ways off from the decision about
who the running-mates will be when it is nomination time.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Mar 20 - 09:10 AM

With hindsight from the outbreak of today we should have chosen a young survivor like Mayor Pete.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Mar 20 - 05:53 PM

Some customary election-night rallies have been cancelled
thanks to the fear around the coronavirus.
(Ohio, for example)


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Mar 20 - 08:59 AM

Seven more states in the US
hold presidential primary elections this week.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Mar 20 - 10:26 AM

The DNC run to Biden is the thought that more Democrats will take the Senate and House than with Sanders as President. Maybe its true but its just a proposed strategy.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 20 - 04:05 PM

I know that Castro was the perfect gentleman while Nixon was a flaming ass hole, but explaining how the bad blood began is lost on our rather shallow citizens.
Like all of us sometimes, Bernie could have have shut up but decided to shout.

It would be better for Bern to define Biden than let Biden define him.


The most Republican thing I have said is that the business of America is business.
Thats why we have more property laws than civil rights laws.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: John P
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 11:30 AM

Why should we expect the Democratic party to be unified during the primary season? This is the time where we get to see the differences between the candidates. As soon as we pick a candidate, there will be plenty of unity directed toward getting rid of the beast. And besides, it doesn't matter very much to me which Democrat gets it, although I'm very glad that Bloomberg dropped out. The rest of them are fine people with their own strengths and weaknesses as candidates. Any of them are infinitely better than any Republican, who are all crooks these days.

. . . his remarks about Castro.
Donuel, have you become a Republican or something? Why are you repeating their lies, acting like Sanders' comments were bad in any way? Do you really have a problem with a presidential candidate praising a literacy program in another country? He was very clear about all the things he doesn't like about Castro as well, but you don't bother reporting that.

John P


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 12:07 PM

I now wear gloves which reminds me if I touch my face.
You will find it the hardest habit to break


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 11:44 AM

2 weeks ago it was Bernies to lose and he did an excellent job of losing by not joining the Pettis bridge march and his remarks about Castro.
Sure the corporate candidates ganged up against him, but Bernie's mouth guaranteed losing the convention vote when it comes.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 11:31 AM

Is it too little, too late?

Rachel Maddow interviews Bernie Sanders


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 07:27 AM

the great trump hunch

Trump has a hunch his numbers are best
his truth is better than all of the rest.
The Pense Prayer to walk before you crawl
will save you from any thinking at all

Even if it doesn't make any sense
go to work if you are sickly or tense
I've done the best, its clear to see
It will all go away if you vote for me.

The Democrat is sickest by far
to politicize a cold like SARS
Its better to kill them if they come near
with all their coughing and media fears


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 05:51 AM

She--it, there is so much democratic unity, all the California results HAVE BEEN DELAYED for days to make Joe look like the front runner for as long as possible.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 05:38 AM

This whole thing [Democratic dysunity] is benefitting none but trump.

I tried to make that point. Given a choice of a single front runner and a squabbling cohort - the average undecided voter will plump for the loudest voice, and we know who shouts loudest.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Iains
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 03:24 AM

Trump's choice is sleepy Joe. You know it makes sense.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Neil D
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 11:18 PM

No reason to get your coat Steve, you're probably right. I also side with Bernie on nearly every issue but realize the U S isn't ready for universal healthcare and public college education. Funny how every other industrial country is. Trump is salivating at the prospect of running against him, but don't underestimate the Republican machine's ability to attack Uncle Joe. Even now the Republican controlled Senate is ginning up a sensationalized investigation of Hunter Biden. Never mind the fact that his time on the board of Burisma Holdings has already been investigated and found to be completely above board and free of corruption. That won't stop the cynical campaign of snide insinuation and innuendo. Several months ago a pundit said that the upcoming impeachment would hurt Biden worse than Trump. He may have been right.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 06:03 PM

Much as I regard Bernie's politics as by far the closest to mine ever in the history of the US, I don't think you're ready for him. Normally, I'd say stick to your socialist principles. But it's so important that we get rid of Trump that I think you buggers had all better get behind Joe. I'll get me coat.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 04:30 PM

There is much less "dysunity" today than there was at the start of yesterday.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 08:19 AM

This whole thing [Democratic dysunity] is benefitting none but trump.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 07:10 AM

Bernie stabbed himself in the heart with his doubling down on Castro and revolution talk


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 02:56 AM

Speaking as an outsider here!

I remember hearing vox pop segments last time where democrats were saying that if Hilary got the nomination rather than their choice, they would vote Trump. Seemed odd to me at the time, but I could see it happening this time. Biden's campaign will, I think, label Sanders as such an extreme socialist who wants to take all of your money that I can see a lot of Democrats thinking they are safer with Trump. The opposite situation is probably less extreme, but if Sanders is labelling Biden as "pretty much the same as Trump" in terms of policies, I could see Sanders supporters saying it doesn't really matter who they vote for, then.

From here, it looks like near tie looks as if it could benefit Trump more than anyone. Please tell me I am wrong!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: mg
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 01:16 AM

i still think we could get elizabeth warren. she seems competent. biden is going to have some creepy hair sniffing videos all over the trump ads and he seems to be declining in acuity. I would take bloomberg over biden or sanders but warren would be my choice.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Mar 20 - 05:54 PM

Did you see SNL's skit on Feb. 29? With McKinnon's Warren verbally tackling Bloomberg wherever she goes? Who else do we know who is (supposedly) really really rich and has changed parties and opinions so many times over the years? Why trade one Quixotic billionaire for another one. They nailed that one perfectly. "I may be number five in the polls but I'm number one in your nightmares." Feb. 29 episode.

#TrumpSlump


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Mar 20 - 04:37 PM

Joe Biden in fifth place and out of cash made a grand underdog come back story on one endorsement, only to now face the bloomberg death star of endless cash.
And I thought Bernie was a David and Golieth story.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 04:53 PM

Or is it Poller Coaster?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 12:55 PM

Yes indeed tommorow promises to be a real Roller Pollster.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 11:43 AM

Tomorrow is the really big multiple-state presidential primary election.
And two less names on the ballots,
or at least two less candidates in the running.
It's going to be ... tense.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 08:11 AM

10 years ago documentaries on the corrupt banking system featured Warren and they were excellent


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 06:46 AM

Joe, over the years did you hear the interviews that Terry Gross conducted with Warren? On Fresh Air, Warren was her go-to expert on a lot of financial topics. I did the search according to the oldest interview first. It says there were only seven; I imagine I heard repeats on occasion because it seemed like more.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 10:30 PM

I started this election backing Elizabeth Warren, and I'm still backing her. She has a wisdom that I really respect. I like all the Democratic candidates, but it's Elizabeth Warren who matches my point of view. She did a great segment with Stephen Colbert:Can't say much about her choice of beer, though.....but I'll forgive that.

Oh, take a look at The Daily Show: -Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 10:07 PM

Me neither!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 08:50 PM

When I posted a while back that I thought anything could happen,
I didn't anticipate
that Pete Buddigieg would drop out of the race this soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 06:46 PM

Dunning-Kruger Effect

This is Trump, in the lower percentile assuming he's a genius. Proclaiming his brains to his low-percentile followers. Don't expect them to change their minds, outnumber them and vote the jerk out of office.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 02:29 PM

"Super Tuesday" primary elections are at hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 07:07 PM

That South Carolina poll and winner is Joe Biden.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 07:00 PM

Feelings about Trump
Dissatisfied   37%
Angry          48%

Vote Democratic regardless of nominee
Yes   80%
No    17%

Which issues is foremost to you
Health care    39%
Income inequality 21%
Race relations   18%
Climate change   14%


Government plan instead of private insurance
Support 50%
Oppose 44%


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 06:53 PM

CNN POLL

The economic system in the US;
works well as is   10%
needs minor changes 35%
needs complete overhaul 51%

Race
white   41%
Black   55%
Hispanoc 3%

Age;
17-29   10%
30-44   18%
45-64   43%
65-    29%

Ideology;
Very liberal   20%
Somewhat lib   30%
Moderate       40%
Conservative    9%

Ever voted;
yes         81%
1st time    18%

When did you decide
today       16%
recent       21%
earlier      19%
january       6%
before that   38%

Nominate someon who
can beat Trump       53%
agrees with you      43%

What qualiy mattered most
can bring needed change 38%
unites the country    27%


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: John P
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 06:20 PM

Trump gets out of bed:

"Good morning", he lied.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 07:07 AM

a billionaire, a gay and a socialist walk into a convention. The gay and socialist are asked for a cover charge but not the billionaire.
How come just us? The billionaire says "I'm the owner".


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 05:38 AM

Iím less concerned about Trumpís lies than I am about the fact that so many people believe him. Rather like the way Nouveau-Tories in Red-Wall areas here believed the lies of Dom & Dumber during the GE.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 05:29 AM

Last night President Donald Trump made his Coruna Virus Natuinal announcemnt.

He made cringe worthy claims from the briefing room which has been locked and unused for 1 year. He Dumped the entire Covid 19 task force on Pense.

Trump claimed that Corona is just a flu much less dangerous than the flu. He said the death rate of the flu is many times greater than 3 and corona is lower than flu. He also said the stock market collapse on Monday morning was due to the Democrat Debate Tuesday night.

Not even Putin can out do Trump lies


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