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BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7

Donuel 24 Feb 20 - 09:23 AM
Neil D 24 Feb 20 - 09:43 AM
Donuel 24 Feb 20 - 10:37 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 09:23 AM

Republicans have their magic MAGA hats.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Neil D
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 09:43 AM

I stand with Will Rogers who once said "I belong to no organized political party...I'm a Democrat."


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 10:37 AM

A hundred years ago the DEMOCRATIC PARTY used to support the KKK.
Now the 'Democrat' party is the enemy of of the KKK and tacitly the friend of the Republican party.

Until 4 years ago the Republican Party used to stand against communism.
Now they are all "RED".

Russia fought a world war against fascism, now they support Trump and Trump supports Russian tyranical interests.

Politics makes strange bedfellows.
Now strange bed fellows are gay and aren't strange.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 10:41 AM

edit
Now the 'Democrat' party is the enemy of the KKK and the KKK is tacitly the friend of the Republican party.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 11:05 AM

The most profound post I have seen is that no one knows who the Democratic candidate will surely be, not the pundits, Putin or public.
The variables of a pandemic and money thrown around by the billions along with ideologic challenges and Trump uncertainties is beyond any computational power I know of.

The BASICS will not go away;

Those 'we the corporations' believe that the only business of America is business and is still pitted against
"We the People".

The people who believe that all life is worth saving is pitted against
those who want to hang, behead, deport, shoot and bomb and pollute.

It is basicly more complex than good vs. evil. It is the worship of greed OR selfless sacrifice. Guess who wins.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 01:14 PM

The Democrats have to stop with the purity tests but at the same time recognize that if Trump wants to run against Sanders and Putin wants Trump to run against Sanders . . . they wanted Sanders last time also. This time they get their wish and we're all sunk as Trump resorts to dirty tricks and name calling and Bernie has a heart attack and loses.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 01:35 PM

Trick #1

Bernie Sanders, a sick demented Demoncrat, is 'reported' to have election assistance from Russia and Ukraine.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 04:11 PM

My standard note about political parties... the Dems & Repubs have almost exactly switched positions since Lincoln's day. LBJ and his Civil Rights bit in the 60s brought out the Dixiecrats... and the solid South was a thing of the past.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 04:27 PM

My ideas about politics is that of an old fogey.
I'm gonna throw a platter of baby elephant walk on the phonograph machine and (literally) cut a rug because I feel so young. Then I'm gonna go to the icebox, grab a Yoo Hoo and settle down in front of the boob tube to watch some John Wayne. I love the way he protects that whippersnapper who lost her dad. But if you ask me about Trump I'll tell you he is a low down double dealing no good lieing pony soldier that is full of malarkey. And that ain't just whistlin Dixie. Remember "The first rule of hair club is to not talk about hair club". I keep up with some of the latest trends but at heart I'm a full fledged fogey.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: mg
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 05:29 PM

i think someone has to be prepared to not only defeat trump but perhaps some woman of great reputation and character and competence. the only one that comes to mind is condoleeza rice. i really doubt they would put up ivanka, even for vp. it reeks. we need someone with great skill and pragmatism. Enough to carry us through a possible war and epidemic. Who? I keep coming back to bloomberg although I would far rather have warren. I recognize bloomberg's negatives..the ones i know about at least. biden seems lost and is compromised. sanders seems screechy. warren seems fine really. buttigieG ?? love his wit. Klobachar? No way period.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 20 - 05:37 PM

I know which Rice you meant but it wasn't Condoleeza. Although Condoeeza's keyboard skills are excellent.

So you want to beat a woman again? Shame on you.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Feb 20 - 05:23 AM

Might I suggest that a more grown-up approach to your politics could incorporate better standards of judging your candidates than whether you think they seem "screechy" or "witty"?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Feb 20 - 11:00 AM

Susan Rice. I think Condoleeza would rather be the commissioner of baseball. And she's a Republican.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 20 - 02:27 PM

Things NOT mentioned in debates

-pretty much everything we discuss in BS including climate, guns and disease.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 20 - 02:44 PM

Since crowds and rallies will be hazardous to your health, Bloomberg will do all campaigning by TV. When will he begin being a Democrat supporting the chosen candidate Bernie?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Feb 20 - 04:47 PM

Might I suggest that a more grown-up approach to your politics could incorporate better standards of judging your candidates than whether you think they seem "screechy" or "witty"? Good one, Steve, when we look at the clown you have in office right now.

Prior to 2016 Trump was misbehaving and the networks let it run because it drew eyeballs and dollars. Did they think he'd win? Probably very few, including Trump, thought he'd win. Everything about him is so immature - that whole debate thing about the size of his hands and his dick - really? He lets the shit fly whenever, and that is what the networks and news outlets need to learn to ignore.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 20 - 05:12 PM

Sadly I was one of the few.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Feb 20 - 05:55 PM

Hey Maggie, I wasn't suggesting for one second that we don't have our equal quota of the feeble-minded over here...


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mossback
Date: 25 Feb 20 - 08:16 PM

Susan? Condoleeza?

Id'd rather go with roast pork fried Rice.

Better than both of 'em.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: mg
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 12:32 AM

i absolutely meant condoleeza running instead of trump. his declining mental and physical status could very well and hopefully take him out of the race. i doubt cr wants the job but she seems competent.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 04:44 AM

Where I was from before we used to say it you out a red rosette on a pig it would get elected. Where I am now the same can be said for a blue rosette. Until we remove tribal politics and vote for the best people for the job we will always get power hungry despots like Trump and Johnson.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 06:11 AM

Spot on, Dave. Sadly, where I am, we have a blue-rosette-bedecked pig. Although he looks more like Quasimodo.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 05:29 AM

Last night President Donald Trump made his Coruna Virus Natuinal announcemnt.

He made cringe worthy claims from the briefing room which has been locked and unused for 1 year. He Dumped the entire Covid 19 task force on Pense.

Trump claimed that Corona is just a flu much less dangerous than the flu. He said the death rate of the flu is many times greater than 3 and corona is lower than flu. He also said the stock market collapse on Monday morning was due to the Democrat Debate Tuesday night.

Not even Putin can out do Trump lies


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 05:38 AM

Iím less concerned about Trumpís lies than I am about the fact that so many people believe him. Rather like the way Nouveau-Tories in Red-Wall areas here believed the lies of Dom & Dumber during the GE.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 07:07 AM

a billionaire, a gay and a socialist walk into a convention. The gay and socialist are asked for a cover charge but not the billionaire.
How come just us? The billionaire says "I'm the owner".


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: John P
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 06:20 PM

Trump gets out of bed:

"Good morning", he lied.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 06:53 PM

CNN POLL

The economic system in the US;
works well as is   10%
needs minor changes 35%
needs complete overhaul 51%

Race
white   41%
Black   55%
Hispanoc 3%

Age;
17-29   10%
30-44   18%
45-64   43%
65-    29%

Ideology;
Very liberal   20%
Somewhat lib   30%
Moderate       40%
Conservative    9%

Ever voted;
yes         81%
1st time    18%

When did you decide
today       16%
recent       21%
earlier      19%
january       6%
before that   38%

Nominate someon who
can beat Trump       53%
agrees with you      43%

What qualiy mattered most
can bring needed change 38%
unites the country    27%


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 07:00 PM

Feelings about Trump
Dissatisfied   37%
Angry          48%

Vote Democratic regardless of nominee
Yes   80%
No    17%

Which issues is foremost to you
Health care    39%
Income inequality 21%
Race relations   18%
Climate change   14%


Government plan instead of private insurance
Support 50%
Oppose 44%


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 07:07 PM

That South Carolina poll and winner is Joe Biden.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 02:29 PM

"Super Tuesday" primary elections are at hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 06:46 PM

Dunning-Kruger Effect

This is Trump, in the lower percentile assuming he's a genius. Proclaiming his brains to his low-percentile followers. Don't expect them to change their minds, outnumber them and vote the jerk out of office.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 08:50 PM

When I posted a while back that I thought anything could happen,
I didn't anticipate
that Pete Buddigieg would drop out of the race this soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 10:07 PM

Me neither!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 10:30 PM

I started this election backing Elizabeth Warren, and I'm still backing her. She has a wisdom that I really respect. I like all the Democratic candidates, but it's Elizabeth Warren who matches my point of view. She did a great segment with Stephen Colbert:Can't say much about her choice of beer, though.....but I'll forgive that.

Oh, take a look at The Daily Show: -Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 06:46 AM

Joe, over the years did you hear the interviews that Terry Gross conducted with Warren? On Fresh Air, Warren was her go-to expert on a lot of financial topics. I did the search according to the oldest interview first. It says there were only seven; I imagine I heard repeats on occasion because it seemed like more.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 08:11 AM

10 years ago documentaries on the corrupt banking system featured Warren and they were excellent


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 11:43 AM

Tomorrow is the really big multiple-state presidential primary election.
And two less names on the ballots,
or at least two less candidates in the running.
It's going to be ... tense.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 12:55 PM

Yes indeed tommorow promises to be a real Roller Pollster.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 04:53 PM

Or is it Poller Coaster?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Mar 20 - 04:37 PM

Joe Biden in fifth place and out of cash made a grand underdog come back story on one endorsement, only to now face the bloomberg death star of endless cash.
And I thought Bernie was a David and Golieth story.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Mar 20 - 05:54 PM

Did you see SNL's skit on Feb. 29? With McKinnon's Warren verbally tackling Bloomberg wherever she goes? Who else do we know who is (supposedly) really really rich and has changed parties and opinions so many times over the years? Why trade one Quixotic billionaire for another one. They nailed that one perfectly. "I may be number five in the polls but I'm number one in your nightmares." Feb. 29 episode.

#TrumpSlump


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: mg
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 01:16 AM

i still think we could get elizabeth warren. she seems competent. biden is going to have some creepy hair sniffing videos all over the trump ads and he seems to be declining in acuity. I would take bloomberg over biden or sanders but warren would be my choice.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 02:56 AM

Speaking as an outsider here!

I remember hearing vox pop segments last time where democrats were saying that if Hilary got the nomination rather than their choice, they would vote Trump. Seemed odd to me at the time, but I could see it happening this time. Biden's campaign will, I think, label Sanders as such an extreme socialist who wants to take all of your money that I can see a lot of Democrats thinking they are safer with Trump. The opposite situation is probably less extreme, but if Sanders is labelling Biden as "pretty much the same as Trump" in terms of policies, I could see Sanders supporters saying it doesn't really matter who they vote for, then.

From here, it looks like near tie looks as if it could benefit Trump more than anyone. Please tell me I am wrong!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 07:10 AM

Bernie stabbed himself in the heart with his doubling down on Castro and revolution talk


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 08:19 AM

This whole thing [Democratic dysunity] is benefitting none but trump.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 04:30 PM

There is much less "dysunity" today than there was at the start of yesterday.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 06:03 PM

Much as I regard Bernie's politics as by far the closest to mine ever in the history of the US, I don't think you're ready for him. Normally, I'd say stick to your socialist principles. But it's so important that we get rid of Trump that I think you buggers had all better get behind Joe. I'll get me coat.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Neil D
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 11:18 PM

No reason to get your coat Steve, you're probably right. I also side with Bernie on nearly every issue but realize the U S isn't ready for universal healthcare and public college education. Funny how every other industrial country is. Trump is salivating at the prospect of running against him, but don't underestimate the Republican machine's ability to attack Uncle Joe. Even now the Republican controlled Senate is ginning up a sensationalized investigation of Hunter Biden. Never mind the fact that his time on the board of Burisma Holdings has already been investigated and found to be completely above board and free of corruption. That won't stop the cynical campaign of snide insinuation and innuendo. Several months ago a pundit said that the upcoming impeachment would hurt Biden worse than Trump. He may have been right.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Iains
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 03:24 AM

Trump's choice is sleepy Joe. You know it makes sense.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 05:38 AM

This whole thing [Democratic dysunity] is benefitting none but trump.

I tried to make that point. Given a choice of a single front runner and a squabbling cohort - the average undecided voter will plump for the loudest voice, and we know who shouts loudest.


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