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BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread

punkfolkrocker 08 Jan 20 - 06:20 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 06:20 PM

My ideal candidate would be someone who rose up from the factory floor
or similar real working class origins,
self educated through part time adult study,
talks in the common vernacular,
and will fight back hard when falsely accused and attacked...
Tough, solid integrity, robust wit and humour, and inspiringly charismatic...

Well, I can dream...

Please, not another bloody rich toff in a designer suit... please...


What's the chances of that then...???

Basically, I'll probably just have to put up with whoever the tory media, and toxic right wing rabbis, choose to let lead Labour


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 06:16 PM

I must admit that I tussled with the numbers of zeros, robo, but I made it 0.00001%. I think we can at least agree that it's "not a lot!" :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: robomatic
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 06:09 PM

Iaians. Don't know the origin of your data, but 1 in 100,000 is actually .001% Just saying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 05:53 PM

"You only need one bad apple to spoil a barrel!"

meaningless drivel - but you already know that..

Yet you can't stop digging your hole..

So for you, generalising from 6 out of 600,000 [a bloody huge barrel innit..]
is not too far off you saying..
"a shifty looking 'foreigner' asked me on the street for 20p,
therefore, all 'foreigners' are beggars, and probably thieves as well"...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 05:38 PM

Clive Lewis acquitted himself very well last night, despite the despicable bad manners of Emily Maitlis, who seemed determined not to let him get a full sentence out. It was just one of those "who is he?" moments...

Starmer seems to be the Labour MPs' pick. He's a likeable bloke but he's a London man, a man, a man in a suit and the ultimate fence-sitter. Jess and Lisa claim to be unity candidates but they both briefed against Corbyn like buggery for years and helped the Tories in. If that's unity then that beats me. Emily T did the same and comes across as incredibly patronising. For me, it's Becky Long-Bailey. Any one of the six has got to show grit in fighting off the Express and Mail and all the other anti-democrat liars in our midst. And she would give Johnson a bloody hard time (which is why his acolytes in the media are going ballistic on her already. They're running scared). It's an illusion that Becky is the only one with baggage. All six have in their different ways. But she's grounded, she's tough, she's a socialist and she's a gritty northerner. That'll do me. If I voted for anyone else I'd be going against my principles. I'm not doing it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 05:20 PM

And in which barrel are you the rotten apple? You are a self-declared liar, a racist, a misogynist and you have gender issues. That fits one or two far-right barrels I can think of. Care to elucidate? Or are you going to do your usual cowardly sidestep into "ridiculing" anyone to the left of Genghis Khan? You're quick to put everyone else into boxes, so now tell us who you are. Not that we don't already know...

You must have a bloody big hole somewhere you can crawl back into. You might have to clean your ordure out of it first, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Iains
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 04:26 PM

Six is one in a hundred thousand, pfr. So that's 0.00001% of members

You only need one bad apple to spoil a barrel! As a well educated scientist/biolgist/zoologist/educationalst blah di blah, you would of course know this salient fact.
The party is under a three pronged onslaught:
1)The DPP
2)Ongoing further investigation by the Police
3)and of course an official investigation by the government appointed          Equality and Human Rights Commission.
A fair to middling chance the number found guilty will be considerably more than one.
The Labour party has had the allegations of antisemitism hanging over it for years and done nothing.(everyone knows that the investigation by chuckleberry was a total farce)
Anyway I will take pity on you and provide the link below on wilderness survival. I suspect you will need it. Life in the boonies is a challenge for the inept.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61BJVO5YslY


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 03:41 PM

If we have already crashed and burned I think that would be the least of our worries, D :-( But, it's all speculation anyway and hopefully it will all turn out for the best.

Do unicorns fly as well as pigs?


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 03:39 PM

Whoever becomes Labour leader will be targeted for non stop smears & vilification
by the combined forces and wealth of both domestic and international far right..

Even if Christ himself came back and landed the job...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: DMcG
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 03:25 PM

it would be very unwise to say 'I told you so', even with the most extreme caution. It could so easily be spun as 'They are calling you thick and ignorant again.'


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 03:22 PM

I don't think whether they were for or against brexit will make much difference since we are leaving anyway, Stanron. Unless of course we crash and burn. At which point a remainer could say "I told you so!" .


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 03:11 PM

Not talking about you Stan... you're welcome for a good chat where I sit any time...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 03:10 PM

shhh... don't look directly at him.. is he talking to us, or his imaginary dog...???

I'll go up and get us a round in when he takes a breath and starts leafing through the Mail again...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Stanron
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 03:07 PM

I suspect that the Conservatives would have most to fear from a Labour leader who had been in favour of Brexit and was at the right of the party. Is anyone like that standing?


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Iains
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 02:39 PM

All those members you boast about but still you lost!
DIANE Abbott has been told to “stay away” from Rebecca Long-Bailey’s Labour leadership campaign by a Brexit Party MEP who warned the shadow home secretary her campaign has “suffered enough”. pure comedy
Despite young rebecca's claims to be one of the downtrodden masses she is married to a multimillionaire. A tad duplicitous!
Labour MPs blasted Jeremy Corbyn's 'boring' loyalist Rebecca Long Bailey after she made her opening leadership pitch to the parliamentary party last night, savaging her performance as 'like watching paint dry'.
A ringing endorsement doncha think?

This was in contrast to rivals Jess Phillips and Lisa Nandy, who were applauded after calling for a change in political direction after the party's disastrous general election which saw it reduced to just 202 MPs.
Well I guess a couple have repented and seen the light. Are they numerically challenged though? Perhaps abbacus could aid them instead with a little mathemagic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 02:26 PM

Who could we ask...?


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 01:29 PM

Well, they reckon 5000 but I doubt if Britain First had 5000 members to start with!


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 01:20 PM

or how many Britain First have just joined the tories...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 01:13 PM

Six is one in a hundred thousand, pfr. So that's 0.00001% of members. I wonder what the chance is of being run over by a London bus. I wonder how many BNP sympathisers, for example, have been arrested for hate crimes...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 01:11 PM

What? When the leader of the party talks about Pickaninnies, water melon smiles and tank top bum boys? Surely you jest PFR!


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 12:58 PM

6 out of how many total members...?????

you like percentages... dontcha..


If this 6 and any others hauled in are guilty,
then the law and Labour should stamp down hard on them...
simple as that...

The Conservative party now needs to be just as transparent and proactive as Labour,
in seeking independent public investigation of it's own members and institutionalised racism...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Iains
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 12:46 PM

"should the Equality and Human Rights Commission find labour guilty of antisemitism"

.. and I'd prefer a new labour leader who has backbone to stand up and fight back
against malicious false accusers...


Ahem!!!!!(By Mailonline 8 January 2020 )

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Dame Cressida Dick told LBC that six people were arrested last year as part of the inquiry - and that five files have been passed to the Crown Prosecution Service by her detectives.

The investigation was prompted by an internal Labour dossier detailing anti-Semitic messages on social media allegedly posted by party members, which was obtained by the radio station in 2018.
Terrible things facts!


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 12:44 PM

Well that's very interesting is that, Dave...

Pfr, from his posting history and the fact that he isn't always strictly honest, I think there's very good reason to doubt the first two lines of your italics...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 12:27 PM

I believe he used to play melodeon for a Morris team at one time. I think some right wing nutters tried to hijack it. Maybe that unhinged him?


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 12:19 PM

Iains has to all intents and purposes
reduced himself to the role of
old pub nutter
sat in the corner burbling away to himself and his imaginary dog...

The Landlord whispers to newcomers to the pub..

" see that old.. errrmmm.. character in the corner, he used to be such a clever well educated chap..
Apparently somebody very important in his field of work.
until something traumatic happened and he lost the plot completely..
So sad really, but you'll get used to him if you drink here regularly..
It's safe to say hello to him, just don't mention politics anywhere within his hearing.. ever...
"


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Iains
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 11:03 AM

In your case perhaps. Might I suggest:
Call our National Helpline
FREE on
0800 9177 650


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 11:03 AM

Just been listening to Thangam Debbonaire (Shadow Brexit Minister) on BBC Live House of Commons. An articulate, intelligent, clear-thinking woman. Very impressive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 10:53 AM

Isn't 300 the number of pints of Tartan keg bitter you had to drink to get pissed?


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 10:27 AM

isn't 'spartan' when a Scotsman gets his kilt painfully tangled up with his sporran...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 10:24 AM

If I just say 300 would it be a Spartan post?


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 10:10 AM

Though completely predictable and expected...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 09:57 AM

The hypocrisy is mindblowing, pfr.


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Iains
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 09:43 AM

Pure Gold!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFna4W_r1BY


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Iains
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 09:36 AM

Good to see the jackals out, attacking with the ferocity of a comatose amoeba.
Hilarious Good Morning Britain show today. They did a fine job of eviscerating the compo clone wannabbe leader Rebecca Long-Bailey.
(In deference to the lefties) he/she/it was ripped apart for suggesting compo was magic personified and should reign for ever and ever.
"After her comments were read aloud, the host declared: “I’m afraid Rebecca Wrong Bailey, your party was savaged by the voters, your own voters.
“A lot of working class, Northern Labour voters to their boot straps, marched and voted for the posh Etonian.
“And you know why, because you betrayed them on Brexit. You went back on your word. It had nothing to do with nasty media,” he continued."

Are you yo-yos going to crowdfund her wilderness training? She is going to need it.
I can predict with absolute confidence she is never going to make it to number 19.
A joyful toon for me


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 08:59 AM

Steve - not complaining about deletions,
merely mentioning that as specific context,
for pointing out his/[their ?] blatant self pitiful 'playing the victim' whinging...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 08:52 AM

oops.. i accidentally misspelled "a lucky whitewash for you from a god""...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 08:40 AM

Best not complain too much about deletions. I'd far rather see his racism, misogyny, gender issues, his invoking of far-right scumbags (in the press, online, or otherwise, who knows...) and all his other defects left here for all to see.

I see that the EU is beginning to play hardball over the deal negotiations...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 08:35 AM

Said removal of my posts [and one of DtG's] were only to your benefit,
serving to leave you looking
less gratuitously antagonistic and hypocritical than we know you were, and still are...

That was a lucky whitewash for you from a mod, wasn't it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 08:16 AM

"So now they will go off and cry and get this post removed."

..so why were my innocuous posts rebutting your silliness deleted just a few days ago..
on a very slow day, when basically only you and I were posting...???????


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 08:09 AM

LOL! Many a true word spoken in jest! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 08:06 AM

Of the Fatherland? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 07:19 AM

He certainly sits on the far-right hand of the Father... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 06:57 AM

As my old mum used to say - “He says owt but his prayers”.


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 06:54 AM

Interesting, though, to see the flaws in his character. He's just added misogyny to the racism we've highlighted before, and he does appear to have some difficulties with gender matters...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 06:52 AM

”Begod, John Dave and Raggytash, I'm weak... but this was too good to pass up...”

I understand where you’re coming from Steve but, TBH, I really have not the slightest interest in anything a Fanboi (perhaps even an employee) of a criminal, drink-driver, Right-Wing-Extremist blogger has to say, and I refuse to allow myself to sink to the bottom of the pond by reacting to his constant trumpeting of his hero’s propaganda, and his insulting, flame-baiting behaviour.

Just let him rattle on - no matter his claims of the reverse, there is a mountain of evidence, on numerous threads, of his insulting, abusive, flame-baiting and trolling. On any other forum, he would have been kicked into touch a very long time ago but, sadly, he seems to have ‘friends’ amongst ‘da management’ - there is no other logical explanation for his being allowed to behave in the way he does.

It’s pointless trying to debate with him because he changes position, wriggles like a serpent, and accuses his opponents of the very abuses he, himself, perpetrates.

There is only one way to deal with him, and that is by completely blanking him. Others can do as they like, but that’s my intention going forward.


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Iains
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 06:05 AM

An interesting report from Guido this morning concerning members of the former shadow off itself labour party.

https://order-order.com/2020/01/08/labour-shadow-cabinet-drown-sorrows/
Rats is a sack springs to mind!


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 05:31 AM

Your problem with women clearly addled your brain.

Begod, John Dave and Raggytash, I'm weak... but this was too good to pass up... a true misogynist has outed himself. Thank God for him that Thatcher wasn't actually a woman...


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Iains
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 04:18 AM

Interesting how that last post managed to get jumbled up. Nothing is sacred in cyberspace.


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Iains
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 04:07 AM

Only the deluded loons of the left would try to make an accusation of misogyny when a female prospective labour leadership candidate is referred to as a FEMALE.
The scale of their recent defeat must have addled their brains, especially the prosecco kid. What a clown! I assume your last post was after quaffing yet another bottle. It shows, you know.
No insecurities with me you silly boy, I have a spiffing party to go to come the end of the month. I do not believe you and your also ran fellow posting remoaners have an invite. Life is full of pleasant surprises.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/aliens-among-us-running-leader-labour-party/

The labour party must be congratulated for their perspicacity in the choice of such a candidate. It guarantees that:
ps good to see the cabal wannabe bullies lining up one behind the other. Your removal would make this forum far more pleasant.

So now they will go off and cry and get this post removed.
1)They have learnt nothing from their epic defeat
2) They will never hold the reins of power again.
By even contemplating such a move they do nothing but demonstrate their contempt for their electorate.
Now I know you loonies argue this point repeatedly but sovereignty lies with the people.
Hint! This is why Bojo is in
and magic grandad is out.
Slow learners, or what?


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Subject: RE: BS: Broken Govt Pledges: 1 UK Political thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 02:43 AM

I wonder why they are obsessed with looks as well. It's not as if their pin up boys are exactly George Clooney lookalikes. Farage? Griffin? Come on! People in glass houses...


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