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A DANDY FOR NINETEEN YEARS OLD


GUEST 04 Sep 19 - 11:52 AM
Joe Offer 04 Sep 19 - 11:58 AM
GUEST,Starship 04 Sep 19 - 01:17 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 04 Sep 19 - 02:04 PM
Steve Gardham 04 Sep 19 - 05:02 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 04 Sep 19 - 06:07 PM
Joe Offer 04 Sep 19 - 10:47 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: A Dandy For Nineteen Years Old
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 11:52 AM

Does any know where I can get an audio of A Dandy For Nineteen Years Old ? I have heard The Very Unfortunate Man, that's not it. I heard A Dandy For 19 once on an open mike radio. Thank you.


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Subject: Lyr Add: A Dandy For Nineteen Years Old
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 11:58 AM

Here are the lyrics we have in the Digital Tradition. Let's see what else we can find.


       A DANDY FOR NINETEEN YEARS OLD

As I went a-strollin' down by the Strand,
I met a fair damsel so handsome and grand;
She wore jewelry and finery of silver and gold,
And says I, "You're a dandy for nineteen years old."

Her fingers were tapered; her neck like a swan,
Her nose a little turned up an' her- voice not too strong;
Six weeks we were married and wedding bells tolled,
I married my darlin', just nineteen years old.

After the wedding, we retired to rest,
Did my face change colors when my young wife undressed
A bundle of padding from her form did unfold,
Says I, "You're a dandy for nineteen years old."

She took off her fingers, till I counted but three,
Unscrewed her cork leg plumb up to her knee,
Took out her glass eye, on the carpet it rolled,
An' says I, "You're a dandy for nineteen years old."

As I stood and I watched her, I thought I would faint,
She scraped from her pale face a bushel of paint;
She took off her wig an' her bald head then told
She was nearer to ninety than ta' nineteen years old.

So come all you young fellers when you courtin' to go
Inspect your true love from her head to her toe,
Or else you'll be ruined like me and be sold
To a patched-up old geezer who's ninety years old.

From Whorehouse Bells Were Ringing, Logsdon
Note: Another in the dismantled bride genre

DT #651
@trick @marriage @aging
filename[ NTEENYRS
TUNE FILE: NTEENYRS
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I checked the lyrics in Logsdon. They're exactly the same, a good transcription. Melody seems right, too. -Joe-
Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry:

Only Nineteen Years Old

DESCRIPTION: Singer fell in love with, and married, "a virgin only nineteen years old." Next morning she took off her paint and revealed her hump, wig, false leg and fingers. Before marrying, he says, examine your intended: she may be ninety.
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1879 (Journal of the Andrew Hicks)
KEYWORDS: age courting marriage beauty disguise money humorous
FOUND IN: Ireland US(SW)
REFERENCES (3 citations):
Munnelly/Deasy-Lenihan 15, "Only Nineteen Years Old" (1 text, 1 tune)
Logsdon 36, pp. 197-199, "Oh! My! You're a Dandy for Nineteen Years Old" (1 text, 1 tune)
Huntington-Gam, pp. 318-319, "The Virgin Nineteen Years Old" (1 text, 1 tune)

Roud #4792
RECORDINGS:
Tom Lenihan, "Only Nineteen Years Old" (on IRTLenihan01)
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "The Warranty Deed (The Wealthy Old Maid)" [Laws H24] and references there
NOTES [19 words]: Munnelly/Deasy-Lenihan: "Tom's sister Margaret used to sing this when she was home on holidays from America." - BS
Last updated in version 4.2
File: RcOn19YO

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Subject: RE: DTStudy: A Dandy For Nineteen Years Old
From: GUEST,Starship
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 01:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_teTdf0TqJc

The group's name is Danu (accent aigu over the u). But the lyrics are not those posted @ Joe Offer, 04 Sep 19 - 11:58 AM.


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Subject: RE: DTStudy: A Dandy For Nineteen Years Old
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 02:04 PM

Roud lists a copy of A Virgin Only 19 Years Oldfrom Harry Kernell's Irish Songster, dated 1875 (earlier than the Ballad Index earliest entry). The composer is listed as Harry Rickards.

Roud has references (ie reference only) from the 1860s.

Bodleian broadsides has several copies.

Mick


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Subject: RE: DTStudy: A Dandy For Nineteen Years Old
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 05:02 PM

Rickards only wrote the music. Fred Perry wrote the words but the date is right, 1869. See Kilgarriff. The Glasgow Poets Box printed a version in 1871.


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Subject: RE: DTStudy: A Dandy For Nineteen Years Old
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 06:07 PM

Kilgarriff bookshelf currently obscured by things waiting to be moved, but thanks for the info Steve.

Mick


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Subject: RE: DTStudy: A Dandy For Nineteen Years Old
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Sep 19 - 10:47 PM

I don't usually find much at "those" Websites, but a Mudcatter led me to quite a selection at https://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/n/nineteenyearsold.html

NINETEEN YEARS OLD
(Traditional - 19th Century English)

As I was walking down by the Strand
I met a young lady all dressed up so grand
With features of finery and jewels set in gold
Said she was a maiden, just nineteen years old

Her fingers were tapered, her neck like a swan
Her head tipped a little, her voice not too strong
In six weeks we were married, the wedding bells tolled
I'd married that maiden, just nineteen years old

After the wedding we retired to rest
I thought I would die when that female undressed
A trunk full of cotton she first did unload
I thought it darned funny for a nineteen year old

She took off her left leg as high as her knee
She took off her fingers, I countered but three
While there on the carpet her glass eye did roll
I thought it darned funny for a nineteen year old

She took off her eyebrows, I thought I would faint
Next from her mug came a carload of paint
She took off her false wig, her old bald head told
I thought it peculiar for a nineteen year old

She took out her teeth, I jumped up in terror
Her chin and her nose fell right in together
Now I'm telling you folks she was a sight to behold
That fair little maiden just nineteen years old

Now all you young fella's when courting you go
Make sure she is perfect from head to her toe
You'll pay for your folly, like mine you you'll be sold
To a patched up old maid about ninety years old


**********


Alternate Version:

A VIRGIN, ONLY NINETEEN YEARS OLD

As I was out walking one night near the Strand
I met a young damsel all hoop'd up so grand
She had feathers and finery, jewels and gold
And she said she was a virgin, yes a virgin only nineteen years old

Her fingers were tapered, her neck like the swan
Her nose like a turnip, her voice not too strong
In three weeks we were married, and the wedding bells tolled
That I married a virgin, yes a virgin, only nineteen years old

The wedding party broke up, we retired to rest
But my hair stood upright when my bride she undressed
For a cart-load of padding my young bride did unfold
A thing very peculiar, very peculiar, for nineteen years old

First she took off her right foot, about a foot wide
Then she unscrew'd her left ear, and laid it aside
Then she pulled out her right eye, on the carpet it rolled
Thinks I, here's a virgin, what a virgin, only nineteen years old

Next she unscrewed her left leg as far as the knee
Then pulled off her fingers, I counted just three
Then on her left shoulder, a large hump I did behold
So I said, there's a virgin only nineteen years old

When she wiped off her eyebrows I thought I should faint
And scraped from her thin cheeks a cart-load of paint
When she pulled off her black wig, then her bald pate soon told
That she was an old virgin, an old virgin, more than nineteen years old

When she pulled out her false teeth, I jumped up in terror
For her nose and her chin very near stuck together
>From the chamber I stepped, never more to behold
The virgin not nineteen, no not nineteen but ninety nine years old

Now young man take a warning, ere to church you go
Be sure your bride perfect, from top to the toe
Or you'll pay for your folly, and like me be sold
By some patch'd up bit of stuff, cruel old virgin
About ninety-nine years old


**********


A later version:

EIGHTEEN OR NINETEEN YEARS OLD

As I was out walking down by the seashore
I met a fair maiden she sure did look grand
Her lace and her diamonds and her hair shone like gold
She appeared to be eighteen or nineteen years old

Her fingers they jingled like bells on a door
Her nose was turned up but not very much more
When we were married the wedding bells tolled
I have married a young lady just nineteen years old

When we were married and retired for our rest
My love changed for her, why you can guess
For a box full of powders my love did unfold
She appeared to be eighteen or nineteen years old

She raked from her pale cheeks a box full of paint
When she took out her false teeth I thought I would faint
Out upon the carpet her glass eye did roll
She appeared to be eighteen or nineteen years old

She unsnapped her fingers, I counted just three
Then she unscrewed both cork legs up to her knees
When she took off her false wig her old bald head told
I had married an old lady about ninety years old


**********


A shortened version:

NINETY YEARS OLD

As I was out walking down by the seashore
I spied a young lady, she sure did look grand
Ribbons and laces, her hair shone like gold
She appeared to be eighteen or nineteen years old

Now when we were married I thought I would faint
She raked from her pale cheeks a full box of paint
When out on the carpet her glass eye did roll
She appeared to be eighty or ninety years old

I counted her fingers, I could only count three
She unscrewed her cork legs both at the knee
Took off her false wig, her bald knob it shone
I found I'd married an old lady 'bout ninety years old


**********


Another version that was part of the repertoire of
Nova Scotian folk singer, Fred Reddon, in the 1980's.

HANDIER NINETY THAN NINETEEN YEARS OLD

Oh, as I was a-walking way down by the strand
I espied a fair damsel so handsome and grand
She had buckles and brooches of silver and gold
Says I, "Now what a dandy, and only nineteen years old"

Well, I courted her truly, in two weeks we were wed
(*Line missing here*)
In two weeks we were married and the wedding bells tolled
I'd married me a dandy only nineteen years old

Well, the wedding being over we retired to rest
You can bet I was astounded when my wife did undress
Such an armload of paddings as my wife did unfold
Says I, "Now what a dandy, and only nineteen years old"

Well, she took off her cork leg right off to her knee
She unbuttoned her fingers until I counted three
Then she plucked out her glass eye on the floor it did roll
Says I, "Now what a dandy, and only nineteen years old"

Well, she took off her eyebrows, I thought I would faint
She took from her face a good bucket of paint
Then she took off her wig and her bald head soon told
She was handier ninety than to nineteen years old

Now, come all you young fellows when courting you go
Examine your true love from her head to her toe
For if you don't do it, you're bound to be sold
To a patched up old geyser about ninety years old


**********


A very different version, but with the same theme, that originated in Ireland:

BY THE BRIGHT SILVERY LIGHT OF THE MOON

It was one evening in Roscrae, in the merry month of May
When the roses and the heather were in bloom
A young lady passed me by and she gave me the glad eye
By the bright silvery light of the moon

Well, I got an awful fright; it was true-love at first sight
And I thought I couldn't marry her too soon
We got married right away in the Abbey near Roscrae
By the bright silvery light of the moon

Well, it started getting late and she asked me for to wait
And when I got up to the door of her bedroom
Well, there upon a chair was her teeth and golden hair
By the bright silvery light of the moon

Well, there was more for me in store when she began to snore
Oh, she nearly blew the blankets cross the room
And there upon a peg was a great big wooden leg
By the bright silvery light of the moon

Well, I grabbed her by the head and I dragged her out of bed
And like a broken doll she lay there in the gloom
It would break a million hearts to see all of her spare parts
By the bright silvery light of the moon

So young men take my advice, always look at the ladies twice
For they're always out to catch us poor gossoons
Pull her teeth and pull her hair, just to see if she's all there
By the bright silvery light of the moon









(Contributed by Mel - September 2010)


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Subject: ADD: A Virgin Nineteen Years Old
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Sep 19 - 01:20 AM

THE VIRGIN NINETEEN YEARS OLD

As I was a-walking one night ‘neath the shade
I spied a fair damsel all nipped up so grand
She had feathers and finery and jewels and gold
She said she was a virgin, yes a virgin
Only nineteen years old

Her fingers were a-tapering and her neck like a swan
Her nose it was turned up and her voice not too strong
In three weeks we married and the wedding bells told
That I’d married a virgin, yes a virgin
Only nineteen years old

The wedding party broke up a we retired to our rest
But my hair it all stood on end when my bride she undressed
For a cartload of wadding she first did unfold
Which I thought was most peculiar, yes peculiar
For one nineteen years old

She took off her right foot, she had nothing to hide
She unstuck her left ear and laid it aside
Then she pulled out her eyeball, on the carpet it rolled
Thinks I, is this a virgin, yes a virgin
Only nineteen years old

She wiped off her eyebrows and I thought I would faint
As she scraped from off her old face a whole cartload of paint
Then she took off her wig and her bald pate well told
That this was no virgin, no virgin
Only nineteen years old

She pulled out her false teeth and I jumped up in terror
For her nose and her chin they did come together
Then I out from that chamber never more to behold
A sweet young virgin, no virgin
Not nineteen years old

So young men take a warning if to church you do go
Be sure your bride is perfect from tip top to toe
Or you’ll pay for your folly and like me you’ll be sold
For a patched up old strumpet, no virgin
Almost ninety-nine years old


Bark Andrew Hicks 1879


Source: Gale Huntington, The Gam, pp. 318-319, "The Virgin Nineteen Years Old"

Huntington gives two melodies. The first is from The Clown's Songster, page 12. The second is something Huntington heard in a pub in Belfast, and doesn't like very much.


Click to play (joeweb)

Click to play #2 (joeweb)


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Subject: ADD Only Nineteen Years Old
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Sep 19 - 03:22 AM

Let's try a broadside. I found it at https://media.vwml.org/images/web/RoudFS/PB-BS-012-0050.jpg


ONLY NINETEEN YEARS OLD

Oh, take warning all you single men, take warning from me,
And don’t go about courting all the girls that you see;
For one once charmed me and by her I’ve been sold,
She was such a good-looking female, only nineteen years old.

CHORUS
She was a lovely young wirgin,
A scrumptious young wirgin,
Only nineteen years.

Oh, with her I kept company till I asked her to be mine,
She said, “Oh, my darling Charlie, how can I dare decline,
When you know that I love you more than silver and gold?
Oh, that artful young damsel only nineteen years old.

The happy day soon came, and married we were,
I dreamt of the happy hours with her I would share;
I soon got quite enraptured with joy quite untold,
For this magnanimous young damsel only nineteen years old.

When the feasting was over, and I asked her to retire,
Oh, what a woeful sight for my eyes to admire!
She was taking nut her false teeth—oh, how I was sold
By this tender young chicken only nineteen years old.

She then screwed off an arm, and then off a leg,
She next took off her fingers and hung them on a peg;
She took off her large wig—what a sight to behold!
Wasn’t she a lovely young female only ninety years old?

She pulled her left shoulder off, which looked like a sack,
And then she quite exposed such an ugly humph—back;
Such a piece of deformity I wish ne’er again to behold,
In a lovely young damsel only ninety-nine years old.

But now she is dead and is laid in her grave,
But all her “artificials” a present to me she gave;
I keep them as a tombstone of how I was sold,
By that lovely young damsel ninety-nine years old.


broadside dated Saturday January 14, 1871


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Subject: RE: DTStudy: A Dandy For Nineteen Years Old
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Sep 19 - 05:37 AM

I have to say how I am struck by the crudensess of these hate-filled pieces of misogyny and how poorly they measure up to our genuine folk songs
Tom Lenihan of Clare sang 'Bright Silvery Light of the Moon' for us, but he made a point of telling us what an offensive song he believed it to be
He, like many traditional singers 'ozmosised' many of their songs, rather than setting out to learn them
Jim Carroll


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