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Subject: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 01:23 PM

It now means there is potentially twice as much bloody football coverage on the telly...!!!

The sport can only achieve true equality when it becomes combined into mixed men's and women's teams..
That should be the future accepted norm...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 02:41 PM

It might happen. In the meantime, in the interests of equality, you should decide which gender of footie should be allowed. Maybe by the toss of a coin...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 03:51 PM

The only time I watch soccer seems to be when the U.S. women's team is playing. While the women don't seem to be as fast and explosive as the men they do seem to play with a certain amount of finesse and judging from the U.S./Spain match the other day, no lack of physicality.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 03:59 PM

France-US coming up...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 04:02 PM

Football's very popular.

I don't begrudge anyone their innocent pleasures, however I really don't agree with Gary Lineker getting paid 1.7 million of public money for what he does.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 05:08 PM

Michal Jackson has made billions since he popped his clogs. We call it capitalism, Al.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 05:35 PM

Better than women getting cauliflower ears playing rugby, but (as I said in verse here ) I'm glad netball - devised as a (largely) non-contact sport for the ladies - is making a big comeback; or table tennis - where, unlike tennis, a lady can reach a high level without getting bulging veins and muscles on her racket arm. (By the way, watching the BBC news, I just heard the Dalai Lama say that he does not mind a female successor, as long as she is good looking!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 05:52 PM

AS much as I am indifferent to any game played with a round ball,
I saw one of the best nasty vicious fouls for years on the news a few days ago.
Proper 'accidental' high kick aimed at the head..
For a moment it was like the thrill of real 1960s mud and blood football again...

when we won the cup... aahhh

It was a foul from a women's football match...

Well done women.. the spirit of authentic football lives on...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 09:21 PM

That foul was a split second in ninety minutes committed by one person out of 22. You could have tried to enjoy the other 89.9999 minutes of spirit and skill. Depends what you want, really. There's always EastEnders.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: olddude
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 09:39 PM

I love it actually and not just because the us is in the chase. The ladies have heart and passion for the game


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 09:42 PM

Totally totally agreed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 10:31 PM

Steve - I suppose what I want really is rugby... and sumo wrestling...

Women's rugby is coming along,
but it's a sport where the physical disparity between men and women
may be too much for mixed sex teams to be feasible...???

Though rugby teams do have positions for smaller men...

But if schools and local clubs started boys and playing together in mixed teams
right from the get go,
maybe that would sow the seeds for a next generation that takes it for granted as the norm...???
Team selection based on individual skill and enthusiasm for the sport
rather than gender...
Footballers are all round athletes, and the physical differences betwen men and women
should not be as significant as in other sports like rugby and sumo..


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jun 19 - 10:36 PM

Big oops... "But if schools and local clubs started boys and girls playing together"...

Nowt sexist with that omission.. just tired, bleary eyed, and careless typing at 3.30am...

btw.. the next sumo tournement starts in July..
and women's sumo does exist at local grass roots level...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 01:07 AM

Oneca again its this Brexit business.

I remember a time when a football wass a big heavy leather thing. When it got wet, which was most of the year - it would knock anyone less than fourteen stone flying. Footballers like Jack Charlton, Pete Storey, Andy Gray, billy Bremner....they did theses sliding tackles...now that WAS football - not all these dainty little foreign buggers skipping about.

And as for women, they wouldn't have survived the pie van and the hot tea, laced with nitric acid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mr Red
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 02:05 AM

It won't be long before politicians will notice their popularity and have to have a favourite women's team. Or if your are a Boris, a favourite woman..............

who you can argue with.

And a colleague who refereed women's games did tell of some of the women he had to ban. Physicality you ask? Not unknown.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: G-Force
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:24 AM

My dad used to play hockey (by which I mean hockey, not ice hockey), and they used to have mixed male-and-female teams. I don't know if they still do. I don't think it would work in football (=soccer), not unless the officials could rein in some of the physicality.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Vincent Jones
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:43 AM

A few years ago I took my daughter to Womad and spent so much I should have had a sponsor's marquee erected. Shortly after we went to see Man City women play Chelsea women at Staines FC's ground. Entrance couldn't have been more than a fiver (I think it was £3), and kids get in for nowt, a burger and a brew cost £2.50. And the football was of a high standard.

And if we'd have brought a ball, City's players would have signed it (OK, I knew our reserve goalkeeper, but it was a friendly atmosphere).

If you like footy (and, fair enough, it's not the superior 13-a-side code), women's football is well worth watching, and won't break the bank.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:00 AM

”I love it actually and not just because the us is in the chase. The ladies have heart and passion for the game”

I’m with Dan (and Steve).


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 06:26 AM

As a welcome side attraction, to me anyway, U.S. captain Megan Rapinoe has got President Racist Nitwit's nose out of joint when some time ago she responded to a reporter's question that she would not go to the f______ White House in the event of a U.S. victory. Who could turn down a trip to Trump's White House for room temperature, fast-food death burgers and a photo-op with the Groper in Chief? A lot of championship teams could, it turns out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: olddude
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 08:58 AM

Besides the women’s legs are far better to look at.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 02:39 PM

Not seen any yet but about to put the TV on for tonight's match. Looking forward to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 03:12 PM

Go Norway! Heh heh heh...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 03:51 PM

Just imagining what women's football would have looked like
if it had been televised back in the 1970s...


..ooer.. jiggle jiggle...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:28 PM

In the suburbs of Sydney in the 1970s, PFK (and I've heard things were similar here), all the lads were on the football pitches at one end of the park, whilst all the girls were playing netball at the other - and never the twain did meet!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:33 PM

By "here" I mean England, sorry - not everyone knows I am an English repatriate, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 04:39 PM

English Women up 3 zip.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:01 PM

Mowed the lawn, fed the plants, had 3 pints of Black Sheep and watched the England Women cruise to the semis! What could make a better evening? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 06:42 PM

Mowed the lawn (half a bloody acre in 27C heat and an easterly gale that snapped a huge great bough off my poplar which blocked the farm lane), watered the plants, had several glasses of Asda Negroamaro (after a bottle of Prosecco, natch) with me barbecue and watched the England women neutralise the Norway team. What could make a better evening!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 06:55 PM

Took the scenic room from the train, walking through a local wood, watered my pot plants, had a glass of Pale Cream, watched a programme on the Cairngorms, then one on Madagascar - got the score here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 07:17 PM

Had 2 porkchop sarnies and a mug of strong black tea,
then nodded off on the sofa while watching a time shifted recording of LuLu on The One Show...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 11:33 PM

Oops. Well played, Lionesses. Tomorrow, allez les bleues!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 01:47 AM

My half a postage stamp is definitely easier, Steve :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 02:15 AM

Having driven a 200-mile round-trip to Manchester the previous evening to be jaw-dropped by The Eagles, I was totally knackered and ready for bed by 8pm. I forced myself to stay awake to watch the game, and I’m very glad I did - brilliant stuff! Well done them lasses! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 08:13 AM

So then..
back to my click bait OP premise...

Rather than twice as much bloody football on the telly,
if you had to vote to choose between only men's or women's football coverage...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 08:19 AM

we don't have to choose. mens , womens, cross dressers, pro-celebrity strictly football on ice....it's coming home!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 08:34 AM

Going off last nights match I would chose Womens any day - At international level anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 10:56 AM

Hi

Iwatched The Lionesses take out a very good NTeam from Norway.

Both teams showed skill but England were just that little bit better.

I have been watching Woman's football for some time so I am not surprised by the standard has risen so quickly.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 12:01 PM

From the Radio Times next week:-
7.30pm Wednesday Women's World Cup
Coverage of the second semi final held at the Stadt de Lyon
With the group stages under way as we go to print, one of the few certainties is that England will not feature here having locked themselves into the top half of the draw by winning their group.

That's experts for you!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 12:22 PM

Well worth £1.7 million pounds a year.


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From: DMcG
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 12:25 PM

I am not a fan of football, whatever gender the players. But I recommend a project called No Petticoats here by Louise Jordan, which includes a section on women footballers during the first world war. I have copied an extract below:

===

Women Footballers
Whilst researching individual women I was drawn to the stories of women footballers such as Lily Parr, Jennie Morgan and Bella Raey. Collectively, women footballers of the Great War had a phenomenal impact on the lives of their communities and their country. When the FA suspended men’s football teams from competing in 1915 it was women who kept the sport alive. Encouraged to play during breaks by factory owners to build morale, women munitionettes’ teams organised fundraising matches. These women footballers raised thousands (millions in today’s money) for POW and soldier’s charities, only for women’s football to be banned by the FA for an incredible fifty years (1921 -1971).


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 12:32 PM

We watched some recent news reports on that forgotten sporting history.

This really deserves a movie adaptation, or Sunday evening BBC series...

Like the one off drama about the black footballer who became a WW1 army officer...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 06:10 PM

U.S. Women 2 to 1 over France. Twitler's nemesis, Megan Rapinoe, scores both goals. England on Tuesday.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 06:26 PM

That was a wonderful game of football by any standard (and I'm a Liverpool fan fer chrissake). This festival of football has done the game a power of good. I love it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 06:37 PM

Yep, a good defensive showing from both sides but the Americans shut 'em down in stoppage time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 10:01 PM

Well Done. Red White and Blue all over the arena. What colors/colours you all gonna use, Brits?;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: olddude
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 10:21 PM

Great game now I cannot wait till Tuesday. I think it will be a superb game as both are immensely talented


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 02:30 AM

Just knowing the back-story of England's captain would warm yer heart.

If you like the women's football game - look for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: michaelr
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 02:38 AM

Much less falling about and play-acting in the women's game. Far fewer actual fouls, as well. And good job to the ref for not going to VAR at all, perhaps for the first time in this tournament.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 05:18 AM

I don't dislike it any less than men's football !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: vectis
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 05:28 AM

The women's game was banned from club grounds in 1921 because it was pulling huge crowds compared to the men's game.

They tried to claim that it was because it wasn't suitable for ladies to play but, in my opinion, as an ex women's league player, it was pure jealousy on the part of the professional game.

Without proper grounds to play in women's football was relegated to the local recreation pitches and crowds dwindled. It has only really revived in the last 30 years.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 05:53 AM

Chesting the ball - any medical concerns among you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 06:10 AM

it was pure jealousy on the part of the professional game.

because the men at war in WW1 - the women took up the challenge of entertaining (?) the public and it was virtually the only option around. Men returning needed a job and football was a good second income. Women had to look after the children. It was the culture then.

But yes, it was a form of jealousy - money.

And there were plenty of single women who lost out in the race to find a husband - even one with a wooden leg (eg)!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 06:20 AM

The slogan should be - "woman can do most things" not "women can do anything"; women playing football does not bother me too much but I, frankly, hate the idea of them being "At Front Lines" .


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 06:27 AM

I hate the idea of anyone being at front lines equally.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 10:18 AM

Zut alors! Bien joué les Amerloques!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 10:30 AM

My wife was so taken with the story of the WW1 women's football teams,
she started casting her fantasy BBC Sunday costume drama series
with the best of British actresses..


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 12:16 PM

"women playing football does not bother me too much",
Gosh, how open-minded of you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 01:44 PM

Well we can't have totally open minds, things would fall...... er, bear with me there is another word there, but it has fallen er, um, bear with me..................


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 01:55 PM

So far, nobody has been "open-minded" (Gillymor) to comment on this from above - Chesting the ball - any medical concerns among you?

Bit like with media coverage of boxing nowadays where they never allow a doctor on to warn of brain damage - nothing negative, please, we are Americanised English!


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 03:53 PM

Frankly, I myself don't have a lot of knowledge on this issue - I seem to recall a lady who played association football mentioning wearing some kind of guard, but am not sure how badly affected a ladies breasts could be from being hit with a football..?


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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 04:29 PM

You clearly have little idea of the anatomy of young, healthy, slim women. You appear to think that the women who play football have loose, dangly, unprotected breasts. Do get a life.


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From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 04:38 PM

Chesting the ball? No worse than having grandchildren jump upon you from a height!
And why am I on Mudcat now? Cos there's football, Glastonbury and other crap on TV!


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 04:40 PM

I've learned something there, cheers, Dave - if you were in Phil Neville's shoes, you would not select anyone with "loose, dangly, unprotected breasts". Get a life?...about 40 countries on a shoestring, BA, equivalent of a HNC in Management, trade certificate, a couple IT certificates AND a counterbalance forklift licence...A grade junior football and tennis (with a club foot), etc.


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From: beachcomber
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 07:49 PM

I hadn't seen much women's International football until this month. The standard has certainly been excellent and the England team have looked , to date, as very likely winners of the Competition. The USA must also be so considered I think and, now that the Germans have been ousted, perhaps the Dutch will make the final ?


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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 08:33 PM

It's been brilliant, a credit to sport. Women's football is here to stay and deservedly so. Fantastic!


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From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 12:29 AM

I suppose its a bit like women's tennis. Its slower, so you can see the artistry more clearly.

I like snooker for that reason. You can see a creative mind (much faster and much more insightful than your own) at work.


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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 01:07 AM

I like how we suddenly got fixated on tits...

best things god ever created apart from electric guitars...

Walkytittyverse watches women's football with Yakety Sax

playing in his head...???


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From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 04:39 AM

I have no interest in watching any football, but

I would be glad if the UK Women could do well because the captain has a real burden to carry. She married a footballer and his career was cut short due to some sort terminal debilitating disease like Motor Neuron. She needs some rewards in life.

I have known relatives with it, and recently a consummate dancer has been diagnosed. Imagine your one reward in life being taken.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 04:39 AM

Turning the other cheek to the name change, PFK: there is the groin area too, of course, but one doesn't "groin the ball", unless a man fancies singing his team's song in falsetto.


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From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 05:16 AM

Haven't seen a woman footballer I'd like to write a song about, yet...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKu98Xvyfd8&feature=youtu.be


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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 05:19 AM

I should like to see crisper passing, better first-touch ball control and less playing in the air. "If God had wanted us to play football in the clouds he'd have put grass up there." (Cloughie - who else). But it's great to watch and I'm hooked. And credit to the Beeb for their coverage (in spite of that bloke commentator who blathers non-stop through the games). As for Glastonbury on the telly as well, why not? Not a lot of it appeals to me, though I like it when they show clips of past legends, but it's undeniably a great cultural institution and if they can show trooping the bloody colour they can show Glastonbury!


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From: G-Force
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 08:35 AM

Haven't seen a woman footballer I'd like to write a song about

But what about that Japanese coach - beautiful, pretty and sooooo cooooooool!


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 08:59 AM

A few years ago, I met on a bus Miss (although she had a boyfriend) Northumberland, who was also playing for Newcastle United at the time.


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 09:01 AM

Americanized, dude, Americanized.


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From: beachcomber
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 09:35 AM

I'm still predicting ENGLAND for Cup !!


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From: gillymor
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 10:04 AM

The U.S. is the odds-on favorite as of yesterday but as a non-bettor that's all just yak to me, the match is the thing.
Mrrzy, I don't get your last post, "Americanized..."? It sounds like a non soccquitur to me. I'll get me....


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 12:38 PM

Somebody up higher said they were Americanised. Murricans use a Z.


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From: gillymor
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 01:20 PM

got ya


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Jun 19 - 02:07 PM

"Murrican," Mrrzy? Is that a term for those who are not Native Americans/Amerindians/First Nations? My poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, on "Americans"


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 01:49 AM

Nah, jist the Southron proannunciation!

I referred to tomorrow's game as England-somebody. Oops.


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From: Gda Music
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 11:07 AM

In my now 87 years I have never had cause to watch any women`s football games. This despite the fact that both my Mother (Cissy Smith) and her twin sister (Florrie Smith) b.1901 loved the game and being club members of The Dumfries Ladies Eleven used to train in Dumfries at their Palmerston Park ground during and after the 1914/18 war. My Mum (inside right) would always mention having scored a goal against the famous Dick Kerr French team, but I just wish now that I had paid more attention to all the talk and happenings of that period. It seems that they both went to Carlisle to work at the vast munitions factory for the then war effort where evidently other girls were keen too on playing and watching the women`s game.

I certainly can recall the shock of 1950 mens soccer World Cup when the part-timers from the USA knocked England out, we heard it all live on the radio and yes....still shocks!

However, the important ladies game tonight, Tues 2nd - USA v England I will be watching, especially for my Mum in her rightful Queen of the South position at inside right.

GJ


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 11:19 AM

Go Lionesses!


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From: gillymor
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 11:55 AM

Thanks for sharing that, Gda and enjoy the match. I'm looking forward to it.


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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 02:49 PM

Will having two strikers work? I hope so!

I went on a couple of courses in Lyon when I worked for HP. Lovely place. Nowt to do with the footy. Just rambling, as us pensioners do

:D tG


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 04:34 PM

Give them that goal back!


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From: olddude
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 05:04 PM

Sorry but that was clearly not a goal the us team simply out played them. Too many mistakes in that game and penalties


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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 05:10 PM

Hard luck England :-(

You are right though, Dan. I thought the USA outplayed us. As a non-football afficionado, I can honestly say it was one of the most dramatic games I have seen. Whether that was good or bad, I just don't know. But it was certainly exciting :-)


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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 05:13 PM

Bah... now it looks like we have to put up with women's cricket...

..that's twice as much bloody cricket...


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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 05:17 PM

The offside call was clearly correct. The penalty decision was as soft as can be and I was (almost) glad it didn't go in. Long balls won't wash with a team as good as the US. Nine times out of ten you just lose possession, and they are a killer team in possession. And when they lose the ball they fight like tigers to get it back. I didn't see that energy from us. Loose passes lose matches. Well done, the US ladies!


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 05:19 PM

I'm sure Phil Neville just said "we went down to 10 men"..?

Then one of the presenters said the England (not the USA) team wanted to be "bad-ass women"..?

I watched about 20 minutes, after Today at Wimbledon, and certainly saw some bad passing women.

Anyway, at least Alf Ramsey's English team won THE World Cup the day Yours Truly was born, in Saint Mary's Manchester - http://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.com/


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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 05:40 PM

He did say that. As for me, I found myself saying to Mrs Steve things like "England need to get more men in the box..." But we're all getting there, including me and Phil (Bury and Radcliffe lads that we are). Kudos to the women/girls/ladies. They are changing our sporting culture for the good, which is what really matters.


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From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 05:48 PM

I used to like Lyons fruit pies.
you could bite off a corner , suck out the contents.
and then eat the sugarry pie crust, with a nice cup of tea.

Probably the EEC banned them.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 06:28 PM

True story:

Not sure if he bothers now but, a few years ago, Jack Charlton started posting on Facebook saying, e.g., how much he liked fly fishing and disliked women's football.

Then one day I noticed he'd posted a picture of the World Cup winning team - saying something like who's the handsome tall chap in the middle.

I added, as above, that I was actually born the day he helped us win the World Cup and, despite being born with a club foot, managed to play A-grade juniors in Sydney, Australia.

He replied with "Alf Ramsey used to say I was born with 2 club feet!"


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From: gillymor
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 06:52 PM

A nice tight match with plenty of suspense but I'm happy to see the U.S. Women advance.


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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 07:01 PM

They're a great team, with good possession, crisp passing and a brilliant pressing game. They should beat whichever of the other two sides they come up against.


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From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 08:06 PM

Out playing music tonight, in the ol' Mudcatter tradition. What's football?


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From: robomatic
Date: 02 Jul 19 - 09:11 PM

I'm gonna be at an Anchorage sports bar hopefully watching, or watching hopefully. Either Swedes or Hollanders. Interesting...

But great game, Englanders!


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From: MikeL2
Date: 03 Jul 19 - 02:28 PM

hi

I have no argument about the result of the game. Us Women were the better side with some vey strong players; The were well drilled and their defence was better than some teams I saw in the Premier league
this year !!! Including Man United !!

It was an entertaining game and although Us were dominant, there were a few near shocks from a very hard working England side.

cheers

MileL2


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Jul 19 - 04:04 PM

The current game seems excellent...


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From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Jul 19 - 10:01 PM

Hope you're happy, Mrrzy,
now that
the Lionesses are heading to the final.


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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jul 19 - 10:09 PM

Which they aren't...


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From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Jul 19 - 01:00 AM

I wonder why they have a man manager - you'd think a woman, who'd played the woman's game would have more insight into how a woman's team would function.


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Jul 19 - 11:19 AM

Yeah, what? I woulda been...


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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Jul 19 - 11:41 AM

Football, cricket, it's 2019...

There's no good reason such divisive male & female teams can't be integrated at all amateur and pro levels...
Even if some rules might need to be modified..

The better women will gain opportunities,
the weaker men will drop off...

It's only the sports where huge brute male strength is of vital importance,
that may take longer, or never become viable, for women to be included in teams.

But where there's a will...???


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From: vectis
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 11:49 PM

The USA have had professional women footballers for many years now and should be in with a good chance of winning.


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 01:11 PM

I was rooting for the Lionesses again...


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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 01:32 PM

The wife is watching tennis now..

again twice as much bloody tennis with both separate men's and women's games..

She won't move off the sofa, or let me watch anything else on the big screen telly...

So how much different in power, speed, and endurance are men and women tennis players anyway...???


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 01:46 PM

Anyone for tennis, PFR?!

Very different - if women had to compete against men, zero would be able to make a living from it. So, in order to have equal prize money at Wimbledon, men are now discriminated against - having to play the game better for longer.

And, if someone counters with "but women look better on the court", surely that would be a sexist argument.

My Tennis Tips To Try


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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 02:30 PM

I'll tell you what I like about Sumo wrestling..

In the pro tournaments sport,
there are no weight, height, or age divisions...

A small mouse of a man can fight a colossal elephantine monster...
The winner can not be predicted...

I'd love to see that applied to other sports,
and it could pave the way for very entertaining mixed male/female matches...


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From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 02:47 PM

I don't like the idea of lionesses. They bite people, and they bully little animals. Big sods, the lot of them.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 03:16 PM

How about the Avocets - lovely elegant birds...


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 10:14 PM

Wait, are men's tennis matches longer than women's?


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 03:54 AM

Decided over best of 5 rather than 3 sets at Wimbledon, where prize money is now equal, Mrrzy.


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From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 04:52 AM

Is there such a thing as women's grid-iron in the USA?


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From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 06:17 AM

In theory, tennis matches of either sex can be very long.

A bit like folk songs - not necessarily the longest ones that are best.


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From: Allan Conn
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 07:23 AM

The vast bulk of tournaments are the best out of 3 sets for both men and women. The grand slam tournaments are an exception rather than the rule. It came about through tradition and the idea years ago that women were somehow incapable of playing the five sets rather than the three which of course is a nonsense. If there was to be a coming together of that it wouldn't be women playing 5 sets though it would be men playing 3 - and there has been some pressure for that from the organisers and TV schedulers etc. As Al says longer games are not necessarily the best or a bigger attraction anyway. Especially in the earlier rounds where they may be more one sided. Is it really more exciting to watch a 6-2 6-1 6-2 match than it would be to watch a 6-2 6-1 match??? Plus we are lucky with the men's game at the moment in that in Federer, Nadal and Djokavic we have three all time greats playing at the same time and they are all good to watch. That isn't always the case where the men's game can sometimes simply be a big serving competition. This year argaubly the biggest attraction and biggest talking point is over a 15 year old lassie and not Nadal or Federer.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 08:25 AM

More broadly, we want Equal AWARD Pay

As I say, equal average pay requires discrimination against men.


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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 08:41 AM

I'm a man and I've never had equal pay with anyone...

From resentful modern incel boys to reactionary old men,
their complaints about "discrimination against men"
is bogus and laughable...

Now if you were talking about class inequality and pay,
and not so fixated on gender,
that might be a more meaningful conversation...????



Sumo started this morning...
winner takes all..
literally - the winner is handed envelopes of cash after each bout...


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 09:30 AM

Go Lionesses, different Lionesses! I woulda called them the Dikes, mwah ha ha ha ha, sorry.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 09:51 AM

Thank God, PFR, that the Japanese have stuck with the sumo tradition and not been sucked into the hype of American tag-team wrestling.

They also have National Living Treasures in Japan to help keep their traditions alive.

Is Holland or The Netherlands going to wing the women's FIFA World Cup..?! ;-)


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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 10:04 AM

But the top tier of Sumo wrestlers haven't been Japanese for a long time..
Mostly Mongolians now...

The only recent Japanese wrestler who made it to the top
lasted merely a few fights before injuries forced him to retire...


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From: robomatic
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 11:28 AM

It's showing on FOX broadcast right now in my living room, don't need to go to the sports bar=


Good game so far. . .


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From: robomatic
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 12:58 PM

WELL DONE American Women!

well played, Netherlands. Love the Orange


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From: gillymor
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 12:59 PM

YEEEHAAAAAWWW!!!!
I hope my Dutch ancestors will forgive me for that. The Dutch women had a great run in the tournament and those U.S. women know how to close out a match.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 04:53 PM

By the way, mighty Madagascar are into the quarter finals of the Africa Cup of Nations - never made the World Cup finals and their first time in AFCON; so it's not all lemurs, chameleons and other wonderful wildlife!


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 08:49 PM

Côte d'Ivoire plays tomorrow...


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 11:10 PM

Ole! Sorry, men's, but upsidedownexclamationpoint Ole!


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Jul 19 - 01:59 PM

Last time I heard a proper ole! was a year ago in Barcelona, watching flamenco with a glass of sangria...but what has ole! got to do with the price of fish in Côte d'Ivoire, Mrrzy?


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Jul 19 - 02:19 PM

Mexico beat the US in their cup of americas to win the whole ench- I mean the whole tourmament.

CI won but I spent the whole first half rooting for the wrong colors!


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Jul 19 - 02:28 PM

What the Dickens, Mrrzy?! Final of Copa America: Brazil 3 - Peru 1.


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Jul 19 - 03:14 PM

The cafafac one [not the right initials] gold cup. Some of that is America.


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Jul 19 - 03:38 PM

I've given in to a glass of Old Westminster Cream - an English fortified wine, and Today at Wimbledon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 08 Jul 19 - 06:06 PM

Back to Wimbledon: still a few more days to place bets, lose friends, win enemies!


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Jul 19 - 07:45 PM

Isn't that influence bets?


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From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jul 19 - 03:23 AM

Frankly, I didn't like seeing females literally clashing heads in the WWC19 final, and nor do I like females, in the army, being "At Front Lines"


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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Jul 19 - 04:40 AM

Equally, I don't like to see males clashing heads in football matches or males, in the army, at front lines. Equally. Get it? And any morality deficit arises because we aren't very good at stopping wars from happening. As for the clashing of heads, many human endeavours carry some risk. The other day I saw an old lady's head clash with the floor as she fell down an escalator in M&S. Maybe we should make all women wear crash helmets when they go shopping. Better still, confine them to the house, where they can comfort themselves with fond memories of all that suckling they did.

The old lady was fine, by the way. She was comforted by a little gathering of women shopworkers who found a chair for her and brought her a cup of tea. Imagine: women in a workplace! And some of them looked young enough to be at home suckling!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Jul 19 - 08:29 AM

"I can't suckle..."

Oh, the heartbreak of lactation envy.


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Jul 19 - 08:46 AM

Honey, suckle...oh, never mind.

I am pro-football, all sexes, and anti-military, any sex.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: olddude
Date: 09 Jul 19 - 09:02 AM

Well I am not anti-sex. I think sex is great.


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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 09 Jul 19 - 09:38 AM

olddude - it's one popular sport where for centuries men have traditionally come first...


WalkaboutsVerse should be happy with that...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Jul 19 - 10:57 AM

Shame, shame...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I dislike women's football...
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jul 19 - 01:30 PM

But it should still be ladies first!


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