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Subject: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 12:03 PM

Just watched the so-called live coverage by the BBC on freeview. On three occassions in the first half of the race the coverage 'fast-forwarded'. How can the BBC have the audacity to call it live?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 12:15 PM

Hated the awful lead up with it's alarm clocks and speeded up film
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 12:17 PM

you could demand a recount, as you were misinformed....throwing the whole process of deciding who was the winner in doubt.

there are precedents.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 02:26 PM

I declare it was diabolical.. how dare the communist satanist BBC
desicrate our national treasures in this way...!!!!!!

If I hadn't missed it entirely due to sleeping off Sunday noon time nookie
I'd be a million times more outraged...!!!!!!


btw.. keep in mind all live coverage is transmitted on a short delay
in case of unexpected problems and dispruption...
[ie, swearing, nudity, bombs, assassinations, alien invasion..etc...]
Sometimes there are unfortunate tech hiccups between camera and TV screens...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 04:06 PM

I was out playing music this afternoon so I recorded it on the Virgin Tivo cable box. I have just watched it and there was no fast forwarding - my stopwatch matched the BBC's timer throughout the race. It would seem that any time delay, and fast forwarding, has more to do with the freeview system than the BBC's live broadcast.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 04:08 PM

Are there commercials, maybe?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 04:09 PM

Was this the event where they shot a horse and a gang of hoodies with baseball bats duffed up the toffs?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 04:17 PM

Are there commercials, maybe?

Not on the BBC. It's funded by a licence fee.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 04:30 PM

No problems on Sky. Went as smooth as a nut. My only gripe was the Oxford-biased commentary team, but they are always Oxford-biased so nothing unusual there...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 06:09 PM

I shall download the race only tomorrow - yes it can be done once you have the m3u8 for the programme!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 06:25 PM

maybe you could record it and play it in slow mo with no sound to get a realistic speed?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 06:44 PM

I'd rather watch paint dry anyway. I always think about that amazing and filthy rugby song, Craven A. I think there's a thread on it.

They entered him for rowing on the boat-race day
He lost his oar and masturbated all the way
They won by half a length but were disqualified
For splashing the spectators on the Surrey side


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: EBarnacle
Date: 07 Apr 19 - 11:42 PM

What boat race is this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 08 Apr 19 - 01:49 AM

The Boat race

Is there another one?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Mr Red
Date: 08 Apr 19 - 02:59 AM

I missed it? I was going to put a 2 way bet on it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Apr 19 - 03:35 AM

Which sife won the Kicking The Beggar part of the event?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: EBarnacle
Date: 08 Apr 19 - 07:49 AM

Actually, there are quite a few others. Many of them even get news coverage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Apr 19 - 08:43 AM

"Is there another one?"
I remember one Sunday aftrenoon, years ago, going to watch a currach race between two London-Irish crews starting from Hammersmith Bridge
We arrived ten minutes before the start - no sign of the teams - waited half an hour - still no sign of the teams
We went off to the nearby Waterman's Studio, watched a film, came out and as we strolled over the bridge to head home we heard a voice bellowing through a loudspeaker, pleading for the teams to come out from the pub and start the race
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Apr 19 - 09:05 AM

Is there one where toffs in red jackets are blowing horns and rowing boats,
whilst hunting salmon with packs of dogs...

Would that be good live television...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Apallinng BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Apr 19 - 10:56 AM

I rowed competitively for almost twenty years, and I have to say that the Boat Race is probably the worst advert imaginable for what is a wonderful sport. Nobody in my (predominantly working-class, non-university-educated) rowing club ever had the slightest interest in it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: leeneia
Date: 09 Apr 19 - 11:43 AM

Hi, punkie. Your list:

"[ie, swearing, nudity, bombs, assassinations, alien invasion..etc...]"
could have included earthquakes. In 1989 (I believe) the World Series championship baseball game was stopped by an earthquake. No champion was ever determined for that year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Peter the Squeezer
Date: 09 Apr 19 - 02:01 PM

Who can forget Harry Carpenter's comment, after the University Boat Race 1977. "Ah, isn't that nice, the wife of the Cambridge president is kissing the cox of the Oxford crew".


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 03:24 AM

it's either Oxford or Cambridge in the lead - genuine quote.

There is the Ladies race, the Veterans' race (James Cracknell at 48 in the winning team) and isn't there a "Heads of the River" race?

Not that I am remotely interested in watching.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 03:51 AM

The ‘Head of the River’ is a completely different kind of event, Mr. Red. Any club affiliated to the NRA May enter crews, and it’s a time-trial, A ‘processional’ event. Crews compete against the clock, not against each other, and are set off at ten-second intervals, and row the Boat Race course in reverse, Mortlake to Putney, on the ebb (whereas the Boat race is rowed Putney to Mortlake, on the flood).

The Head of the River is the antithesis of the Boat Races, being an inclusive event which embraces competitors from the various standards of rowing, and from very many diverse rowing clubs, rather than having the exclusivity of the Boat Races which are limited to ‘Elite’ oarsmen from two specific clubs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 04:00 AM

remember this



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfyhEa8u6M8


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 01:14 PM

The ‘Head of the River’ is a completely different kind of event
I refer you to
"Is there another one?"

Boat, Race, Thames, Putney, Mortlake - how much has to be in common to qualify as another one?
I get it, it isn't THE boat Race. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 01:41 PM

If you can’t see a difference between races between the two top U.K. Universities’ rowing clubs, restricted to Elite-standard oarsmen/women who are studying at those two establishments, where two boats race side by side, and a ‘processional’ time-trial competition involving several hundred crews and boats, open to oarsmen/women of all standards from any ARA affiliated club, and from any social and educational background, I don’t think I can help you any further.

Other than to point out that there are rowing regattas taking place all over the country through the summer, where individuals and crews, of every social and educational backgrounds, from the several hundred rowing clubs in the UK, compete at all levels for trophies, and to progress through the various recognised levels of proficiency according to ARA regulations.

So yes, there are lots of ‘other ones’.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 02:10 PM

Near where I grew up was the very posh yacht club...

Better than that though..
my grandad ran a holiday camp boating lake for a summer;
so I got let in for free rowing early in the mornings
before the campers finished breakfast...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 07:35 PM

yes, I was in charge of the boating lake sometimes in Exmouth, when I wasn't doing the deckchairs.

never again did I occupy a position of power.

My 'Come in Number 17!' was calm , authoritative and brooked no protest. Too much, too soon.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 10 Apr 19 - 07:51 PM

I did watch both the women's and the men's races, but the Beeb did manage to turn what took in total under 40 minutes into about 3 hours. Too much razzamatazz.
And was the designer of the Cambridge kit colourblind? They always used to be the "light blues" but have gone green!
As for other boat races, enjoyed the gig races off the Isles of Scilly: you can go out in another boat and cheer your favourite team on! Similar races up and down this cpintry's waters as BWM said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 02:50 AM

I don’t think I can help you any further.

Some people look at the similarities, some at the differences. Methinks a case of glass half full/half empty. Methinks someone needs a top-up.

Pimms anyone?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 04:14 AM

And some people enjoy talking in riddles and being a smart-arse.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 09:03 AM

errrmm..

Boaty McBoatface v Smarty McSmartarse...

Live coverage now on Mudcat Channel, highlights of all the action later this evening on Catch up...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 10:09 AM

LOL! Saw it once, that was enough...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 10:58 AM

And some people enjoy talking in riddles and being a smart-arse.

And some can only denigrate. So sad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 11:11 AM

.. and some of us can gleefully take the piss out of old men bickering
like they're oblivious to how daft they make themselves look to onlookers...

Well it's mudcat.. far more entertaining than posh oxbridge boat capers.. unless they sink...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 01:14 PM

”And some can only denigrate. So sad.”

What’s sad is someone posting indecipherable, incoherent messages, presumably in the mistaken belief that he’s ‘clever’. Your posts mean absolutely nothing AFAIC, except perhaps that you are trying to provoke. If you have a point to make, make it, in proper English, and in a way that normal people can understand. Simples.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 01:22 PM

Pfr - one of us ‘old men’ has tried to explain that the Boat Race is atypical in the sport of rowing, whilst the other simply posts vacuous, meaningless nonsense.

That’s not ‘bickering’, it’s someone trying to provoke someone else who made a serious attempt to explain something that the provocateur. Childish, playground behaviour - as is your attempt to stir things up. I thought better of you.

I’m gone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 01:24 PM

.....something that the provocateur seems unable to comprehend?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 01:51 PM

BWM - my sarcy comment wasn't aimed at you...
And then it was only mildly taking the piss out of Mr red...

.. and I reckon I'm perfectly at liberty to have a laugh at old men now that im 60 and have to deal with my NHS poo test..

Seriously, I can't stand the snide buggers with their mealy-mouthed
"sorry if I caused offence..

Rest assured when I want to offend somebody I will do it in plain clear and direct English...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 02:05 PM

Sorry pfr, I guess I mis-read you! Pax?


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 02:14 PM

No probs.. that's the risk we all take posting on forums..

no eye to eye contact..

WE all must strive better to communicate effectively..

Mr Red and Donny, for example, have their idiosyncrasies..

..and when I frequently make no sense..
I'm not trying to be clever and pretentious.. far from it..
Im jus half awake, cant get the right words out.. and cant see what im typing properly...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 11 Apr 19 - 08:46 PM

Another thread turned into a personal spat between two egos. Any other post totally ignored. Now I'm outa here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 02:57 AM

Tattie - I refer you to my posts of 11 Apr 19 - 01:22 AM and 01:24 AM.

Have a nice day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 03:13 AM

What’s sad

:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 03:23 AM

Strangely enough, the first house I lived in as a child was on the River Witham (well not actually on the river - by the side of it) next to Mattie Upsall's Boat Hire.

As BWM says - rowing on the river was a very popular pastime for working class folk. And the Witham at Boston up to Anton's Gowt and Chapel Hill were popular destinations for a day out for people from the big cities of Nottingham and Leicester.

Fishing of course was the big thing, but rowing also was very popular. i believe Mattie went out of business. Canoes that people carried on top of their cars became the thing. You still see alot of that at Matlock Bath - the River Derwent and the beautiful Carsington reservoir. Now of couse the cities are well served - the Trent has been cleaned up a lot. And there is Holme Pierrepoint and Roth Valley Leisure Park the more serious minded atheletes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 03:42 AM

Al, I rowed The Boston Marathon on the River Witham (Lincoln-Boston, 31 miles) a number of times, in Fours and Pairs. All good fun until Anton’s Gowt - that two mile, dead-straight, featureless stretch right at the end of the course is a killer, we all hated it!

The biggest hazard, though, was running the gauntlet of fishermen the entire way from Lincoln to Boston. Those ‘gentlemen’ seemed to think that purchasing a licence to fish on the Witham gave them ownership of the river and the right to decide who could use it, so we spent a great deal of the race dodging handfuls of ground-bait, maggots, half-eaten sandwiches, etc. that they threw at us. Not nice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 03:42 AM

I'm a sucker for any telly show about vintage amphibious sports cars..
I'm a child of the 1960s and grew up on futuristic Thunderbirds/007 technology gimmicks...

One of those restoration shows on Sky did a great in depth strip down and rebuild
of one in really manky condition...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 05:11 AM

I'm sorry you have bad memories of it. I always loved the place. the thing you maybe didn't realise, there was ALWAYS a lot of side bets and a lot of prize money on those fishing matches. you'd have been better stopping at Anton's gowt. For those guys it must have been like driving a tank through the poker pit in a Las Vegas hotel.

Follow the money!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 01:26 PM

Oh, it was a great day, Al, despite the antics of the Worm-Drowners on the banks. I wouldn’t have rowed it so many times otherwise. And the first three or four pints at the end never touched the sides!


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 01:31 PM

10 years ago I was an endurance champion on the gym rowing machine..

Doubt if I've got the strength to row across an oramental fish pond these days...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 02:04 PM

Ok, I said I was outa here, but to respond to BWM: yours were the only posts that made sound knowledge-based sense!
Have a nice evening.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 02:48 PM

Yes I lived near the Witham tavern. that aroma of Bateman's ale on a warm summer evening...
i think it was a Wainfleet brewery, must have been very strong. beer doesn't smell like that these days.


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 03:41 PM

Thanks Tattie, much appreciated!


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 03:48 PM

Bateman’s Brewery is indeed at Wainfleet, Al, and their beer is superb, still quite a few pubs selling it in Lincs - shame my pancreas problems have prevented me from consuming alcohol of any kind for the past 14 years (possibly the cause of my grumpiness!).

During the summer, there are several ‘Folk Train’ events, with folk performers playing on special trains from Sleaford to Wainfleet and return, which I believe include a visit to the brewery. I understand a good time is usually had by all!


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Will Fly
Date: 14 Apr 19 - 04:49 AM

My rowing has been confined to Roundhay Park lake in Leeds when a student - bunking off boring lectures on hot afternoons - and taking a turn on the Serpentine on Sunday afternoons when I lived in Bayswater.

I used to cox at school but, alas, never got mine kissed...


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Subject: RE: BS: Boat Race Appalling BBC Coverage
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Apr 19 - 06:22 AM

The annual joke in our house is that Mrs Steve has always admired the Cambridge crew's cox.

She stopped finding it funny in about 1977 but I can't resist...


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