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BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit

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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 01:14 PM

"A little lavatorial humour is quite appropriate"
A Tory minister has just written off the cabinet as the most disorganised in iis experience
One step forward, two steps back
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 11:59 AM

Jim - if anyone accuses us of starting to lose the plot in this thread,
we are still nowhere near as stupid as parliament...

A little lavatorial humour is quite appropriate
when so many MPS have their heads rammed so firmly up their own rear ends,
or are dependant on licking DUP arses...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 10:44 AM

"Mummy, mummy, can I lick the bowl ?"
"No dear, pull the chain like everybody else"
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 10:29 AM

OFR
If you ever come across a copy of 'The Tenants of Moonbloom' by Edward Lewis Wallant (author of 'The Pawnbroker') avoid it like the plague
It's about tenants of a NY slum are eventually drowned by blocked drains
Will work out som lavatorial jokes later
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 08:46 AM

"The custom is that pranks can only be perpetrated until twelve o'clock noon. "

bugger that then, I set my alarm for 13.00pm and have only just woke up

[2 very late night movies on netflix..]


Jim - the poo pond nearly broke over the rim by mere millimeteres..
Why aren't bog brush handles ever long enough..???

So lads, always remember to stand up before flushing...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 08:15 AM

"I suspect it had a few fooled for a minute or two!"
As you proved when putting it up
You are guilty of many things but possession of a sense of humour is certainly not one of them
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 08:03 AM

"The custom is that pranks can only be perpetrated until twelve o'clock noon. After that time, anyone who tries to play a prank is himself (or herself) the fool."

The attempt at the prank in this thread arrived one minute after noon UK time.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 07:52 AM

I suspect only one!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Iains
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 07:39 AM

I suspect it had a few fooled for a minute or two!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 07:28 AM

I was reminded of Keith (RIP) posting how a BBC comedy was a serious documentary on how to avoid a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

As we have said before, taking Guido as a reliable source (which is where the post was copied from) is unwise without applying some crucial awareness.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 07:19 AM

Or Betty Swollocks?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 07:16 AM

Yes, nice to see her again. Anybody heard from Avril Betts lately?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 07:10 AM


Flora Loip, the BBC's Director of Commissioning said


And Flora Loip is an anagram of april fool...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Iains
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 07:01 AM

As an aside!

Flora Loip, the BBCís Director of Commissioning said:

    We are thrilled to licence Guidoís content to the BBC. The Guido Fawkes brand is a strong news brand and the BBC has been wanting for some time to synergise our content aligning our core competencies in this dynamic and exciting new partnership.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Apr 19 - 03:32 AM

"just bollocks to everything....."
Hope they don't hang too low if your toilet's blocked
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: The Sandman
Date: 31 Mar 19 - 04:08 PM

Brexit: Can the United Kingdom Change Its Mind?
Series: Brexit: The International Legal Implications
Published: January 25, 2018
Author:

    Helen Mountfield

Download PDF

This paper addresses the question of whether, as a matter of law, Brexit is now unstoppable, without the agreement of the remaining 27 members states of the European Union. In other words, what would happen if, on a date before March 29, 2019, Parliament were to conclude that Britain should not leave the European Union, despite notice of its intention to do so having been given by the prime minister on March 28, 2017?

There are two parts to this question. The first is whether a formal (and legally binding) decision to leave the European Union has already been taken as a matter of national constitutional law, or whether all that the prime minister has done so far, and all she has had statutory authority to do, is give notice of the present governmentís intention to leave. On this matter, this paperís view is that a further act of Parliament, not just an indicative vote, is needed before a constitutionally valid decision can be taken to leave the European Union. If no such statutory authority is given before March 29, 2019, no constitutionally valid decision to withdraw has been made, and, in any event, the government could withdraw the notification of an intention to leave the European Union and decide to remain.

The second issue is whether, as a matter of EU law, a member state that has given notice of an intention to leave the European Union is bound to leave, or whether it can nonetheless withdraw the notice and decide, unilaterally, to remain. This question requires close consideration of the text of article 50, and what it might mean, and close consideration of the Miller decision. While this paper argues that the better view is that article 50 is unilaterally reversible before the two-year notice period contained in article 50(3) has expired, there is no case law on this question. On this, should it be tested, the Court of Justice of the European Union would be the ultimate arbiter.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 Mar 19 - 01:48 PM

By now anyone in their right minds are sick of the bunch of arseholes in parliament...

Any remaining good sensible politicians, labour or tory, are being f@cked over
by all the rest of the self serving wankers and fanatics...

Increasing mass voter discontent is the best opportunity for ukip and the far right to exploit and capitalise upon..

How much closer are we getting to their threatened civil war and a farage & tommy dictatorship...???

.. and my toilet's blocked up.. bollocks.. just bollocks to everything.....

Can life ever get any better than this...??


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 31 Mar 19 - 12:49 PM

BREXITEER'S ANTHEM
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Iains
Date: 31 Mar 19 - 06:26 AM

Tory Election manifesto 2017
Britain has always been a great trading nation. Trade will continue to be crucial to our future growth and prosperity. As we leave the European Union, we want to negotiate a new deep and special partnership with the EU, which will allow free trade between the UK and the EUís member states. As part of the agreement we strike, we want to make sure that there are as few barriers to trade and investment as possible. Leaving the European Union also means we will be free to strike our own trade agreements with countries outside the EU.

In english this means No customs union with the EU


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 31 Mar 19 - 06:12 AM

It has just been suggested in Murdoch's bum-wipe Sunday Times that not only can Parliament not agree that the Cabinet is no longer functional due to splits
Next job - draw lots to see who is going to be eaten to feed the crew
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Iains
Date: 31 Mar 19 - 06:04 AM

If the referendum result is not honoured why would anyone pay the slightest attention to a petition? Is a petiiton more meaningful than a referendum ? If an MP cannot honour an election pledge where do we go next?

Time for an election but it will not happen because the MPs have more loyalty to their party than to their country. Yet they call each other honourable. What a farce!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 31 Mar 19 - 05:56 AM

Petition's just hit six million.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 31 Mar 19 - 02:56 AM

Another winner PPR - genius
I watched 'Dowwnfall' (great name for Brexit) last week - Bruno Gantz must be chortling in his newly dug grave (brilliant display of acting)
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 02:50 PM

not as astute or cruelly amusing as Pie..
but one of these had to turn up eventually...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-1gWw0beww

[actually as both weere posted on the same day, this seems possibly 'inspired' by the pie bulletin...???]


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 01:41 PM

Having a trillion things to do, and resolutely not doing them, I went to PFR's brilliant YouTube clip of the "news broadcast". WOW. Jonathan Pie totally nails it. Saved me a lot of swearing. For today.

Thanks also to Backwoodsman for that awesome awe.mudcat.org link, which works much better on my devices than the regular URL, enabling me to procrastinate far more efficiently. (Can't settle down and concentrate on anything anyway.) Now if you'll excuse me, I've got some crochet hooks that urgently need sorting by colour. Then there are those paperclips waiting to be counted...

Fave tweet of the day:
I voted Remain, but not for political reasons. My mum's moved to Spain and I want her to stay there.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 01:39 PM

"also few days -"
Must lay off the cooking sherry
"In the last few days", of course
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 01:28 PM

I suspect there has been a major overhauling in the also few days - well worth the wait, if that's the case
Let's not make too much of an issue of it
The're an old Australian joke - How do you know when Brit Plane has landed at the airport - you can still hear the whining after the engines have been turned off :->
Nice to talk t'yall again fellers
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 01:08 PM

..and previewing and submitting posts has been a right PITA
for several days now...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 01:02 PM

Taken me since 3.00pm to get in here..
.. random attempts between mugs of tea and toilet visits..

it's now 4.59pm.......


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 03:42 AM

So relieved I'm not alone in having trouble
I was beginning to think that somebody up there didn't like me or that Tommy Robinson's Raiders had teamed up wit Putin's bloggers and finally brought the forum down
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 02:56 AM

We had a list of alternative alphabetic ordered servers but I forget the names,
and can't remember if we were advised by mods to try them, or stop using them...???


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 02:24 AM

I just typed 'awe.mudcat.org' in the search box in Safari, and then bookmarked it for future use. That was...ooooohh....a long time ago!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 02:07 AM

Same here. Takes ages to load, or hangs until it times out. Backwoodsman, can you give me the full address of the awe server? I havenít used a mirror link in so long that Iíve no idea what it is now.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 02:05 AM

I just refresh until I get in...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 01:07 AM

I've been having to use the awe. server, haven't been able to get in at all on the 'normal' route.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Mar 19 - 12:52 AM

Ah, it's not just my wi-fi or iPad then!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 06:05 PM

The forum has been very frustrating for two or three days. Like an old crock...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 03:07 PM

"but deep at core we care about very similar things..."
Never doubted it for a second... I'm even prepared to bite the bullet over your poor musical tastes :->
Jim
Jay-sus - I really am having trouble posting to this forum - must be something I said


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 11:58 AM

Jim - well we can have our little cheeky banter 'disagreements',
and the occasional real one..
but deep at core we care about very similar things...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 11:54 AM

Jay-sus - I really needed that
Best piece of satire for along time - pity is's so close to the real thing
Made my day **** the rest of the garden
JIm


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 11:41 AM

Jim - last week's news bulletin, if you've not already watched it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IL2XwSkFJQ


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 11:12 AM

Pennines, of course - Pennies are going to be a bit on the short side if this fiasco succeeds


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 11:10 AM

"we"...
E's fine PFK as long as it' not accompanied by 'bah goom'
Those wrong-side-of-the Pennies johnnies need to learn their place
Great clip - we really do need something to laugh about
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 10:30 AM

"we"...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 10:29 AM

.. well if e can't at least have a wry laugh in difficult times...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEyTLRcNNMU


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 05:50 AM

Mustn't get the old man who said "And they think Paddies are t'ick"
Great speech by Michael D last night slagging off Brexit and Europe, pointing out how neither give a toss for ordinary people
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 05:37 AM

Fascinating conversation with farmers fuming of the bumwipe Daily Excess headline "A dark day for Democracy" in or local paper shop an hour ago
One farmer who I know hates the the May Government demanded of me "What the ***** going on in your country - the only one over there with any balls is a woman - you're going to end up being run by eunuchs, my cows have got more balls that that shower of bastards have

Another said, "How can it be democracy to drag six Irish Counties out of Europe when they voted against it?"
I had to tell him, "that'show what they think democracy is over there"

Don't know about a dark day - a great, if embarrasing morning to buy a newspaper
Britain is now the leading laughing stock on the planet

I will live to see a United Ireland and the fall of the United Kingdom, it would appear- never thought I'd live that long
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Jos
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 03:55 AM

Were they trying to tell us something when they decided to have the debate on the petition on April Fool's Day?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: Iains
Date: 29 Mar 19 - 03:51 AM

Today UK democracy died.

Requiem


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Petition to Parliament re Brexit
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Mar 19 - 09:29 PM

"If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you. . ."


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