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Are there any non-European folkies here?

GUEST,Miranda 10 Feb 19 - 10:24 PM
Hagman 10 Feb 19 - 10:35 PM
Mrrzy 10 Feb 19 - 11:07 PM
Jim Carroll 11 Feb 19 - 02:31 AM
Jack Campin 11 Feb 19 - 03:06 AM
Jos 11 Feb 19 - 03:38 AM
Jim Carroll 11 Feb 19 - 03:47 AM
Jack Campin 11 Feb 19 - 04:02 AM
Joe Offer 11 Feb 19 - 04:21 AM
Johnny J 11 Feb 19 - 05:49 AM
Jim Carroll 11 Feb 19 - 06:14 AM
Joe_F 11 Feb 19 - 09:11 PM
meself 11 Feb 19 - 10:04 PM
Sandra in Sydney 12 Feb 19 - 04:49 AM
GUEST,Mad Jock 12 Feb 19 - 01:12 PM
GUEST,Miranda 13 Feb 19 - 09:56 AM
Jack Campin 13 Feb 19 - 10:19 AM
GUEST 13 Feb 19 - 11:10 AM
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Subject: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: GUEST,Miranda
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 10:24 PM

I'm fairly new to Mudcat, and so far I have seen only Americans or United Kingdom citizens. Are there any Mudcatters from other places? Eastern or more Southern countries?

Most songs are also either English or Gaelic and I wonder if there are any other songs in different languages. Say Chinese, for example.


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Hagman
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 10:35 PM

There are lots in Australian.....


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 11:07 PM

We Murricans ain't European in mind... We got jokes 'bout that.

Hi! I grew up in Cote d'Ivoire, if that helps. They called me European there, as in, These Europeans are from the United States.


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 02:31 AM

I believe there weer a couple of Musilms around at one time till the Islamophobes scared them off
A great pity, this forum would benefit very much (on both sides of the line) from a wider cultural and social input - Brexit's going to help that I'm sure !!!!!
If it helps, I'm from Liverpool where they holde allegience only to themselves !
Seriously, if anybody is seeking information and examples of international music, I'm always happy to share whatwe have
I would highly recommend A L Lloyd's 13 programme 'Songs of the People' - a survey of international songs and styles - you only have to ask
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 03:06 AM

French and German stuff gets posted regularly. I've posted about Turkish and Hungarian stuff. The only discussion I can recall about Chinese material one I started about the "Dance of the Yao People". We have one poster who knows a lot about Indian folk music but rarely talks about it, and another who's very enthusiastic about calypso. We could certainly do with opening up a bit: African music is one area that I don't think has ever been a topic.


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Jos
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 03:38 AM

There was a discussion about a television programme about African music fairly recently.


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 03:47 AM

Would it be helpful if we had a tread that could be regularly used for people looking for Non European and hard to get material ?
We have hundreds of digitised albums and radio programmes of world music which I'd be more than happy to share with anybody interested (via PCloud)   
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 04:02 AM

One hard to solve problem is character sets - tedious but feasible to write portably in an extended Roman script like Turkish or Vietnamese; anybody's guess what will happen if you post in a different character encoding, the forum engine wasn't designed to handle that in a browser-independent way and people have tried all sorts of incompatible tricks over the years. Even Russian can't be done reliably; Chinese is much more difficult. (Also needs a moderator who can read it).


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 04:21 AM

Some Israelis, some from Africa, at least one from Argentina. Oh, and don't forget the New Zealanders. I keep the membership roster, and I'm amazed where people come from. We haven't heard from the guy from Shanghai lately, but he used to post a lot.
Joe in California


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Johnny J
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 05:49 AM

There'll be quite a few more of them after 29th March, unfortunately!


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 06:14 AM

Hopefully not - fingers crossed
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Joe_F
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 09:11 PM

What ever happened to Masato Sakurai?


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: meself
Date: 11 Feb 19 - 10:04 PM

There used to be a young Chinese-Australian woman who would show up here often, with questions pertaining to Calypso music. She was seemingly determined to become a Calypsonian. Maybe she did ... ?


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Feb 19 - 04:49 AM

Joe F - last report of Masato Sakurai in 2011 was that he was looking after an elderly parent.


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: GUEST,Mad Jock
Date: 12 Feb 19 - 01:12 PM

Off to New Zealand early March with Singer songwriter Angie Wright who will be seeking out clubs to sing at.
Lots allover both north and south island to chose from So must be lots of performers and likely Mudcatters.


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: GUEST,Miranda
Date: 13 Feb 19 - 09:56 AM

OK a bit of an anecdote here (I need to get this off my chest): I put emphasis on Chinese because I realised at random one day that while I know a fair handful of folk songs from the UK I didn't know any Chinese folk songs.

So I'm ethnically Chinese and grew up in a Cantonese speaking community, so I keep getting told that I should know a few Chinese songs and there is no excuse even if English is my first language.

Then it got to a point where everyone would say "oh I know this song!" And I'd just look lost whenever someone played a tradition song at school assemblies. So yeah, it would be nice to know a bit more about songs in other parts of the world. Does anyone know a good site to start?


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Feb 19 - 10:19 AM

mamalisa.com does a very good job on children's songs.


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 19 - 11:10 AM

A Google search might be a good place to start. I just did a few quick searches for things like "Chinese traditional song lyrics" and got these results:

Chinese Folk Lyrics:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/chinese-folk-song-lyrics.html

Chinese Folk Song Lyrics:
http://www.chineselearner.com/songlyrics/folksongs.html

Top 10 Chinese Folk Songs:
http://www.chinawhisper.com/top-10-chinese-folk-songs/

Arabic Song Lyrics and Translations:
http://www.arabicmusictranslation.com/

Russian Folk Lyrics:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/russkaya-narodnaya-lyrics.html


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: Monique
Date: 13 Feb 19 - 05:14 PM

There are some songs (mostly kids songs) on this site too. They're all in Mandarin.


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Subject: RE: Are there any non-European folkies here?
From: MudGuard
Date: 13 Feb 19 - 06:11 PM

There's at least one German here ... (some years ago, there were several, but nowadays I haven't seen any of the others here)


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