mudcat.org: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafeawe

Post to this Thread - Printer Friendly - Home
Page: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48] [49] [50] [51] [52] [53] [54] [55] [56] [57] [58] [59] [60] [61] [62] [63] [64] [65] [66] [67] [68] [69] [70] [71] [72] [73] [74] [75] [76] [77] [78] [79] [80] [81] [82] [83] [84] [85] [86] [87] [88]


BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?

Steve Shaw 02 Mar 19 - 06:27 PM
Raggytash 02 Mar 19 - 04:30 PM
Iains 02 Mar 19 - 04:09 PM
Raggytash 02 Mar 19 - 03:31 PM
Iains 02 Mar 19 - 10:37 AM
peteaberdeen 02 Mar 19 - 08:42 AM
Raggytash 02 Mar 19 - 07:32 AM
Iains 02 Mar 19 - 06:25 AM
Jim Carroll 02 Mar 19 - 06:24 AM
Jim Carroll 02 Mar 19 - 06:24 AM
Raggytash 02 Mar 19 - 05:35 AM
Iains 02 Mar 19 - 05:14 AM
KarenH 02 Mar 19 - 04:56 AM
DMcG 02 Mar 19 - 04:07 AM
DMcG 02 Mar 19 - 03:43 AM
Iains 02 Mar 19 - 03:36 AM
Jim Carroll 02 Mar 19 - 03:23 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 01 Mar 19 - 09:04 AM
KarenH 01 Mar 19 - 08:46 AM
KarenH 01 Mar 19 - 08:42 AM
KarenH 01 Mar 19 - 08:32 AM
DMcG 01 Mar 19 - 08:12 AM
KarenH 01 Mar 19 - 07:28 AM
KarenH 01 Mar 19 - 07:21 AM
KarenH 01 Mar 19 - 07:14 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 01 Mar 19 - 06:42 AM
DMcG 01 Mar 19 - 04:30 AM
Iains 28 Feb 19 - 11:21 AM
Jim Carroll 28 Feb 19 - 07:10 AM
KarenH 28 Feb 19 - 06:47 AM
Jim Carroll 28 Feb 19 - 06:09 AM
KarenH 28 Feb 19 - 05:31 AM
KarenH 28 Feb 19 - 05:29 AM
Jim Carroll 28 Feb 19 - 05:25 AM
KarenH 28 Feb 19 - 05:23 AM
KarenH 28 Feb 19 - 05:09 AM
Jim Carroll 27 Feb 19 - 01:53 PM
bobad 27 Feb 19 - 01:31 PM
Iains 27 Feb 19 - 01:27 PM
Jim Carroll 27 Feb 19 - 01:15 PM
Jim Carroll 27 Feb 19 - 01:13 PM
Iains 27 Feb 19 - 01:08 PM
Jim Carroll 27 Feb 19 - 12:52 PM
Iains 27 Feb 19 - 11:50 AM
peteaberdeen 27 Feb 19 - 09:37 AM
Jim Carroll 27 Feb 19 - 04:59 AM
KarenH 27 Feb 19 - 04:41 AM
KarenH 27 Feb 19 - 04:25 AM
Iains 27 Feb 19 - 03:47 AM
Jim Carroll 27 Feb 19 - 03:09 AM
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:






Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 06:27 PM

I don't even know what a scratchcard is. My old mate and I have jointly done the lottery for the last 25 years using the same numbers I used in the very first draw. Thirty bob a week each. Apart from that, it's the Grand National, a quid to win on one horse and a quid each way on a long shot. That's me lot when it comes to gambling.

I've been discussing Iains with the mods lately, Raggytash. The best policy is to blank him out and let him expose himself without response from us. He's a bit of a bobad when it comes to shifty dealings, so ignore him and let's see how it goes. I admit that I've been a fool on my own climate change thread but I'm reining meself in.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 04:30 PM

One. I have never bought a scratch card in my life.

Two. I haven't bought a lottery ticket for over 15 years or perhaps more. I do acknowledge I very occasionally bought them when the lottery first started, though many years ago. (I now consider them to be idiot taxation)

Three. (and most importantly) If someone tells me that we should leave the EU and then that self same person moves some of his vast wealth to a EU based country I ask myself why.

Four. You post like an idiot and ........thus

Five. I can only conclude you are an idiot.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 04:09 PM

Once again Idiot.    A fine example of a well structured leftard reply. To acknowledge others as your Lords and Masters suggests a massive inferiority complex, or perhaps a meek acceptance of your perceived place in society. The "rich man in his castle" and all that.
Never mind! keep buying the scratch cards!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 03:31 PM

Meanwhile one of your hero's is moving his wealth out of the UK into the EU to ensure that he doesn't suffer financially and you continue to act like a simpleton and say that is fine for my lords and masters.

Once again Idiot.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 10:37 AM

And now for something completely. The font of accurate facts and critical analysis!

https://order-order.com/2019/03/01/eurozone-suffers-worst-manufacturing-slump-since-2013/

Oh Dear what can the matter be
   German cars are stuck in the factory
They'll be there for many a saturday
   destroying the EU budget with flair!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: peteaberdeen
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 08:42 AM

i read that the nicotine-stained man frog is planning a 'leave means leave' march from sunderland to london. that's 281 miles in 20 days. how marvelous! what unlimited comic potential (or possibly a 'Slow TV' opportunity. Carry on Brexit? or'Triumph of the Will' as half a dozen puffing 50 somethings manage to wobble past the 3rd open pub of the day's journey. i look forward to seeing NF (just noticed that connection...hmm) giving up the tweed for a tracksuit and sweatband.

any opposition to this carnival would i hope be entirely jovial piss-taking with no aggression - any suggestions?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 07:32 AM

Betrayal eh ......... strong word.

But not quite as strong an indication as moving some of your investment company to a eurozone, or as some may term it a betrayal of one's principles.

If he ever had any.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 06:25 AM

Jacob Rees-Mogg claims that the European project proves “the more Europe, the worse you do” - amid mounting fears over economic collapse
in the EU.

The EU Titanic


Unless betrayed we will not be part of such nonsense. Spiffing News!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 06:24 AM

"irrational bile."
The only irrational bile is your revealing racist outburst and Iain's persistent ""bogtrotter" hatred
Let's leave it where it is eh
Behaviour like this puts Brexit exactly where it belongs - ignorance besed bigotry
PROBABLY MORE BOGTROTTING IN_FIGHTING

Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 06:24 AM

"irrational bile."
The only irrational bile is your revealing racist outburst and Iain's persistent ""bogtrotter" hatred
Let's leave it where it is eh
Behaviour like this puts Brexit exactly where it belongs - ignorance besed bigotry
PROBABLY MORE BOGTROTTING IN_FIGHTING

Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 05:35 AM

Back to Brexit.

Something that has slipped under my radar. Rees Mogg the arch brexiteer moved some of his investment company Somerset Capital Management to Dublin last year.

So much for "we're all in this together" eh!


Rees Mogg

Any good news yet?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 05:14 AM

I can accept the Irish Famine was a tragedy caused by ignorance, incompetence and misplaced Victorian morality. To attempt to portray ir as an act of deliberate genocide is the irrational delusion of a venomous old man witha massive chip on his shoulder concerning all things English because in modern parlance his father would be declared a terrorist.
      For deliberate read the Highland Clearances


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 04:56 AM

'HORSE SHIT' seems a tad extreme. But it does seem to me that Jim is not one to let a nuanced and carefully researched historical view of the tragedy that was the potato famine get in the way of a bit of irrational bile.

'sums pup the clonisres'. Gaelic? :)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: DMcG
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 04:07 AM

There was a particularly unthinking Brexiteer on Newsnight a few evenings ago talking about the difference in standard on both sides of the border - he was happy to be on US standards whatever the Government might say. All you have to do, apparently, is to agree to recognise each other's standards.

The spirit of "The easiest deal in history" lives on, I see. Just reach an agreement, that's all. Which we are doing so successfully for every aspect of Brexit.

Just reach an agreement. I could barely contain my laughter.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: DMcG
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 03:43 AM

For Brexit, all that matters is that the Irish border question is highly significant to both sides and has been an area of violence very recently. All this historical stuff is good background, but it is all about WHY the border is significant. The important thing from now on is THAT it is significant.

For example, the recent US ideas on what a trade deal would involve in changes of standards will be of vital importance to NI/Ireland and would still be even if none of that history had happened.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 03:36 AM

Try reading up The deliberately mishandled famine which wiped out a million and drove out another million over five years

HORSE SHIT!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Mar 19 - 03:23 AM

Medieval history -
Ireland was reluctantly colonised for eight centuries - religion divided the world and burned its opponents alive - Henry VIII bulti the biggest bonfires so he could get his leg over - which sums pup the clonisres rather than their victims
Try reading up The deliberately mishandled famine which wiped out a million and drove out another million over five years
Your remarks were racist and inexcusable
Please don't repeat them - there's already too much of that
Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 09:04 AM

> Meanwhile, The US repeats what it hopes to get from a trade deal

and Britain socks it back:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47418505

The US wants "comprehensive market access" for its farmers' products that would see more US-made food on British supermarket shelves. European Union rules currently limit US exports of certain food products, including chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-boosted beef. If free of EU trade rules, the US wants the UK to remove such so-called "sanitary and physiosanitary" standards on its farm exports.

Yeah, that always ends well.

Trump "also demands that the pound not be 'manipulated' to improve trade income or make UK products cheaper in the US." The pounds that are really going to get manipulated are those that measure body-weight.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 08:46 AM

And what do the English make of all this? Well, I won't generalise, but I do recall at the height of the troubles people saying angrily we should just nuke the lot of them. But I think that might be going a tad too far :)_


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 08:42 AM

Wolfe Tone? Robert Emmet? Descended from incoming 'planters'.


And the 'celtic revival' was largely brought about by wait for it writers of a protestant or Anglo Irish background.


So now who's over-simplifying? Not to mention being a tad patronising eh Jim lad?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 08:32 AM

And I have read a fair bit of Irish history, which is how I know that in Medieval times there was a collection of warring chieftains and not a united country. There was a warrior aristocracy. Plus of course the bits ruled by Vikings who founded quite a lot of towns. There may have been some sort of 'high king' but this seems dubious and the position was contested at the time. I think I have this right.

In so far as the country was Catholic (and at one time it was at odds with Rome about the form of Christianity) then it cannot complain about the Pope giving it to Henry VIII of England and I don't suppose many did so at the time.

Not sure whether Jim would count descendants of the Anglo-Normans as Irish, they used to be called the 'Old English'.

etc etc etc


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 08:12 AM

Meanwhile, The US repeats what it hopes to get from a trade deal

As I said earlier, this in line with what Raab and co published as characterizing the ideal trade agreement.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 07:28 AM

And I stand by my point: if there is a return to what JIM has called 'sectarian violence' on a large scale (because I am not convinced it ever completely went away) then this will not be 'because' of Brexit or 'because' of some failure of the Good Friday agreement but 'because' some people, maybe 'bigots', as JIM described loyalists but I think Catholics can be just as bigoted, CHOOSE violence.

And I for one don't think they should.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 07:21 AM

Just a bit of evidence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Real_Irish_Republican_Army_actions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milltown_Cemetery_attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_Volunteer_Force


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 07:14 AM

I'm another fairy. Pointing out that Irish tendency to murder eachother isn't racist. Poet Seamus Heaney did it.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 06:42 AM

The government has already settled, to the tune of £33 million. They can't defend the case, and they know it. More money hemorrhaging out, over asshattery that never should have happened.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47414699


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Mar 19 - 04:30 AM

Euro tunnel start legal challenge to ferry deals

It seems the Government has set aside 800K for this. When they talked about money being set aside to address no-deal issues, this was not what I had in mind.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 28 Feb 19 - 11:21 AM

Nor have I insulted anybody personally - certainly not you


and I am the christmas fairy that fell off the tree!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Feb 19 - 07:10 AM

"I am merely responding in kind to your posts."
I have never imn my life racially attacked anybody - there id no excuse for your behaviour here Karen
Nor have I insulted anybody personally - certainly not you
Finis
Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 28 Feb 19 - 06:47 AM

Jim
I am merely responding in kind to your posts. If you cannot take it do not dish it out. You yourself referred to sectarian violence. Talk about having your cake and eating it.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Feb 19 - 06:09 AM

"Pretty sensible line to draw given the Irish tendency to murder eachother"
THat's an indredibly racist statement Karen -
The wars in Ireland can all be traced back to rid themselves of an Imperial power - on the whole, the people in general get on with one another, no matter what their different religions
Any sectarian violence that occured arose from the creation of an unequal secrtarian State by Britain - the first shots were fired Loyalists and the major violence broke out when Civil Rights protest marches for equality were diverted thought stone throwing mobs made up of the same bigots
Regarding your very revealing foot in mouth about aspiring to be
"British" - the majority 'British-linked' people of Northern Ireland have their roots in Scotland, a country that was treated similarly by the empire
I think we're finished here - I can get most of this sort of thing from a Tommy Robinson site - please take your anti-Irish hatred eslewhere - we've already got one of them
Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 28 Feb 19 - 05:31 AM

And, while I am enjoying myself thinking and arguing outside the box, this dual citizenship stuff ought to go to. Pick one or the other, none of this two passports rubbish, especially for people expressing hatred of the 'British'.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 28 Feb 19 - 05:29 AM

No it most certainly will not be - it will be the fault of whoever drew a line across Ireland designation a large slice of it to be British - how unnatural is that

Pretty sensible line to draw given the Irish tendency to murder eachother on religious grounds and the wishes of the majority of those in Northern Ireland. And I think they designated it 'Northern Ireland'.

There was never a political entity called 'Ireland' before the Normans/Welsh went in. It was a collection of squabbling petty chiefdoms, rather like much of Europe at that time.

I can only hope that they crack down hard on any sectarian violence and on those who justify it through emotive nonsense like 'unnatural'.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Feb 19 - 05:25 AM

"Lots of Irish think of themselves as British."
You know that - o course ?
Not in my part of Ireland they don't - can't think of one
Those who do, do so because their Britishness was either forced upon them 100 years ago as a "temporary measure" to gain a peace that was never fulfilled, or to dominate in a deliberately created sectarian Protestant State
The most artificial thing you could possibly do is draw a line across a country and call part of it it somewhere else - it robs people of their national, cultural and historical identity and is guaranteed to creat a permanent industry of body-bag manufacture
I'm afraid Frank Harte's words are being borne out by your own display of both British arrogance and a lack of knowledge of the Irish people, who they actually are and who you appear to wish them to be.
Jim


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 28 Feb 19 - 05:23 AM

We had to start bombing teagues/prods/pubs in Brum because the Uk voted to come out of the EU? I don't buy it.

I still don't buy it, and thank you for the recap on Good Friday and DUP policies but I knew about that and I still don't buy it.

"Yes I bombed them, I killed/kneed-capped/mutilated/punishment shot various young people/women/children but HISTORY MADE ME DO IT. It's your fault for not keeping to the Good Friday agreement and for voting for Brexit'

Geddit? I don't buy it. It's a choice, not history.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 28 Feb 19 - 05:09 AM

Ah, over-simplification criticised and then a good example of it given, an example from Frank Harte (whoever he is).

This word 'British'. Lots of Irish think of themselves as British.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 01:53 PM

Perhaps, as Israel is now being accused by American Rabbis of colluding with a group described as being equivalent to the KKK, there's a name that should be added to your list Bobad
You can throw these in FOR GOOD MEASURE
Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: bobad
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 01:31 PM

is it possible to be a communist and a terrorist?

See; the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, Cambodia, the Red Brigades, the Front Line and the Red Army Faction.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 01:27 PM

I don't believe that is cricket!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 01:15 PM

"Does it have pastels as well"
Game, set and match, I think
Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 01:13 PM

Will be interesting to see if Cohen's massive dump on Trump - "Conman, racist, liar - forged cheques, collusion with Russia, conspiracy over Clinton e-mails.... will have any effect on BRITISH/AMERICAN RELATIONS
Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 01:08 PM

Are you speaking double dutch above.
the apple does not fall far from the tree does it?
Do like the new paint box! Does it have pastels as well?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 12:52 PM

Good if you put upan unopenavble link and miss out the important bits
Article well worth reading

Whatever you might think of armed intervention in Syria, by states or citizens, Hemming's warning illustrates the arbitrary nature of our terrorism laws, the ring they throw around certain acts of violence while ignoring others, the risk that they will be used against brown and bearded people who present no threat. The non-intervention agreement of 1936 was not the last elaborate system of official humbug the British government devised."


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 11:50 AM

is it possible to be a communist and a terrorist

Franco thought so. Thousands of british Communists went over and were regarded by Franco the same as we regard ISIS. That is why the Brirish security forces distrusted and kept tabs on them.
Even the lefty rag the gruniard agrees:
Today they would be arrested under section five of the Terrorism Act 2006. If convicted of fighting abroad with a "political, ideological, religious or racial motive" – a charge they would find hard to contest – they would face a maximum sentence of life in prison. That they were fighting to defend an elected government against a fascist rebellion would have no bearing on the case. They would go down as terrorists.(and quite rightly so).

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/10/orwell-hero-terrorism-syria-british-fighters-damned


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: peteaberdeen
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 09:37 AM

i've seen many ridiculous and abusive points on here - and i know we should ignore them but..... is it possible to be a communist and a terrorist? perhaps if you are resisting occupation by a ruling military force....otherwise a communist is usually as pro-establishment as you can get.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 04:59 AM

"We had to start bombing teagues/prods/pubs in Brum because the Uk voted to come out of the EU? I don't buy it."
Please don't siplify a complicated and very dangerous situation
Permanenet peace in Ireland depends on the Good Friday agreement being seen through to a satisfactory conclusion
The DUP, in supporting Brexit, is drawing away from that solution, its main reason being maintaining British rule
Trivialising it really doesn't help understand it

This morning's announcement from Westminster that it is finally admitted that Norther Ireland will be far more severely hit by Brexit that will Britain will almost certainly add fuel to an already sensitive situation
Crashing out and leaving a hard border will just about clinch it

Singer Frank Harte once gave a talk on Irish political songs to a group of rather staid English Folkies at Loughborough around the time of 'The Troubles'
He began his talk:
"The British have never understood the Irish"
Pregnant pause
"But the Irish have always understood the British"
Never seen so many squirming bottoms
Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 04:41 AM

We had to start bombing teagues/prods/pubs in Brum because the Uk voted to come out of the EU? I don't buy it.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: KarenH
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 04:25 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-47377548


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Iains
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 03:47 AM

More thread drift from the usual cabal.Obviously nothing sensible to contribute as usual. Here is a little gem from your favourite source the illustrious guido:

Commie Corbyn refuses to support hezbollah ban


https://order-order.com/2019/02/26/labour-refuses-support-hezbollah-ban/

Aesop: “A man is known by the company he keeps”

I presume if you support corbyn you support the terrorist organisation hezbollah.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Feb 19 - 03:09 AM

Stop prodding the ants Steve - everything his says is an inane contradiction
Jim


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
Next Page

 


You must be a member to post in non-music threads. Join here.


You must be a member to post in non-music threads. Join here.



Mudcat time: 15 November 7:35 PM EST

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.