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Subject: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: skarpi
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 05:31 AM

I know this is a sensitive matter , but I have a question , what is Trump going to do with 22 thousand military people in US ? what´s coming ..if not how is he going to pay them all after the time abroad ? Or is some thing going to happen in the Middle East , why so hurry to bring them home ? what is Israel doing , and then it´s this , he has time till midnight tomorrow to get this done https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6516379/Trump-says-not-sign-Democratic-legislation-doesnt-perfect-border-security.html


I am just wondering around in my mind , I guess Trump is to involved to Israel , so they won´t take him out , as they did to Kennedy in the past , but I wonder why Republican party is putting up with that man .

but this is just my wonder´s ....

have a great Merry Christmas .
all the best .


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 07:02 AM

Your English is so good now it is creatively unique and thought provoking.
Your freedom of speech is more free than it is for the rest of us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: skarpi
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 07:32 AM

Sorry my English is a little poor. Yes I live in a free country
and so do you or at least that is what US are telling the rest of the world unless that is a fake statement .


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Iains
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 07:35 AM

It could be he is finally reacting to the fact that US troops in both Syria and the Yemen are there in defiance of International Law. Syria is proving to be a step too far after destroying Libya and Iraq.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Iains
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 07:38 AM

A thought provoking article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/opinion/american-troops-yemen.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: SamStone
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 08:23 AM

how many times can one vote...


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 09:27 AM

In the US we are not free to discuss the assassination/killing of a President even symbolically. Kathy Griffin was in a photo of her holding the severed head of Trump and faces charges up to and including life in prison.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Jos
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 09:40 AM

I'm imagining all those troops 'home for Christmas' and then ...
spread out along the Mexican border.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 09:57 AM

Kathy Griffin is still selling "Fuck Trump" merch, including Christmas ornaments. She's doing OK these days, but had a rough patch.

If someone shoots Trump, we get Pence. Maybe better, maybe not. The incoming Congress will be able to control him somewhat, and some of the Republicans may be growing a spine, even if it's only out of a sense of self-preservation. I don't see that we have any realistic option but to hang onto our hats for the next couple of years, and hope the toddler doesn't blow up the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 10:07 AM

In an illegal attempt to ban asylum immigration the administration claims they do not have the resources to process any more immigrants.

An asylum application must demonstrate two things to satisfy this requirement: The applicant must show that the reason the persecution that is being done is because of being in one of the five protected grounds (race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a social group).

Applicants must have many documents including passport, national identity cards birth certificate and more.

Soon applicants will have to prove with documents that they are persecuted for all five factors. Victims of violence, murder and domestic abuse need not apply because they are automatically denied entry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 10:32 AM

Mueller is lining up enough evidence that hopefully will take out both Trump and Pence as illegitimate. 2019 will be the year of President Pelosi.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 10:39 AM

They're going to tray to shut down Meuller, and I don't know what happens if they do that. Obstruction of justice charges? How does that happen? I think what Trump is trying/doing involves too many lower layers and organizations to be successful. It WILL work long enough to make some people's lives miserable, tear families apart, and kill the odd 9 year old girl.

Nobody is better off now. (Except rich people.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 11:01 AM

Maybe. I just wanted to lob out the pleasant term

President Nancy Pelosi


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: skarpi
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 11:23 AM

When I say ( take out Trump as a President I don´t mean that he should be killed ? and I don´t understand why ) when I say it I mean that he have to stand down from office , killing him is not going to solve anything at all .

just give the office away Mr.Trump you are not a man to be a President , just go to you r own office there you can say in the TV you are fired .

all the best .


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: j0_77
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 11:46 AM

Senator Lindsey Graham S.C. is one voice opposing bringing home US Syria/Afghanistan troops. Too a lot of senior politicians are against it, both dubmblecrats and rebublicans. I think losing General Mattis is a really bad idea, because he is a rock of solid common sense.

So yeah. too far is too dangerous to international peace.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Dec 18 - 12:19 PM

I like the sound of that: President Nancy Pelosi. Too many Democrats believe the Republican campaign to smear her, and that's a shame. She's a good woman.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Dec 18 - 06:59 PM

Well, President Trump is not forever.
He can't even do what FDR did, and serve four consecutive terms --
not allowed anymore.

The question remains, when he finally leaves the Oval Office,
what else will have been taken down?
Will this still be one nation, under who knows what,
or will US society be well and truly in pieces?

With the departure of Mattis,
the New York Times reports that
the rest of the world sees the USA in an entirely different way.
As in, "you don't get to have it both ways..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Dec 18 - 07:15 PM

The next president is going to have to fix a lot of stuff as they move forward. And fix it so well that another despot can't come in and enrich himself and his family like some of the worst faux-democracies or dictatorships around the world. Legislate the transparency of finances, taxes, etc. and make it law that a blind trust must be established.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: robomatic
Date: 22 Dec 18 - 11:27 PM

The damage inflicted on the Republic by the Current Occupant is offset by the rank incompetences of himself and his chosen ones.

Every time I contemplate the potential loss of President T---- (I really can't finish that by typing) I am deflected by the logical next step: President Pence.

Beware

Beware

Beware

Just as the schadenfreude of losing such f---wits as Spruitt and Zinke might usher in more effective exponents of the same damn philosophy.


(good to know you're still there skarpi, I hadn't noticed your postings for some time)


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Dec 18 - 12:05 AM

When is it that the Old Congress leaves office and the New Congress takes over? The 20th Amendment says that the new Congress takes office on January 3, and the President on January 20. That means the boys can come back after Christmas and do a little more damage before their terms expire....


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Dec 18 - 10:03 AM

The old Congress will not be in session again.

In May the Trump military parade will be attended by many dozens of fanatic supporters and will not be compared to the Hitler parade after destroying the Treaty of Versailles, but rather the 2016 inauguration which was huge beyond belief.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Dec 18 - 01:52 PM

Pedant strikes again: Roosevelt didn't in fact serve four terms. He just got elected four times.

It strikes me the whole idea of an executive President is a pretty daft idea. It seems to work out far better having a ceremonial one like many countries do. Then if they turn out to be crazy it doesn’t really matter too much. And it doesn’t,t see to make any difference if a ceremonial head of state is elected or hereditary either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Dec 18 - 01:05 AM

McG of H:
Isn't that a distinction without a difference? For every ceremonial position there is a power position, and that is all one needs to be crazy in.

Or are you arguing that a crazy PM is easier to deal with in a Parlee-alimentary Structured Government?

For all I know, that may be true.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Dec 18 - 06:35 AM

why get rid of him.

doubtless they would replace him someone just as awful.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Dec 18 - 11:20 AM

Ah, one of my most vivid memories of taking a university course
in some category of government history.

The subtle and wry professor presented the paradox with the polish
of someone who presents it every term, rain or shine. He said:

The majority of first-world countries have a head of state and they have a head of government, and they are two different people with two different jobs.
For example, the constitutional monarchy, which has a queen or a king, as the head of state,
and also has a prime minister as the head of government.
Another example,
the country which has a Madame le premier ministre, that is when le premier ministre is not male for a change,
and has a President who is the head of state.

You know what's odd, the professor said?
The United States only has one individual as
both head of state and head of government.
The other first-world countries aren't like that;
the other countries that have one individual doing both functions
tend to be dictatorships

--pregnant pause:
"But that doesn't mean anything."
Swift change of subject,
and I sat there, in the back of the classroom,
with red lights flashing in my mind's eye.

It rings ominously true today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 05:08 AM

Remember the old Chinese curse? May you live in interesting times

So what did YOU do to warrant this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 06:56 AM

Or are you arguing that a crazy PM is easier to deal with in a Parlee-alimentary Structured Government?

Precisely. Getting rid of a PM is pretty straightforward. Getting rid of a President is a lot harder.

Also, if a ceremonial Head of State goes crazy like Trump, it wouldn't really matter too much. Likely enough it wouldn't even be noticed, and if it was it'd probably be seen as just amusing, though some people would object to being embarrassed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 12:25 PM

took over ten years to get rid of Thatcher, and Trump is a model of common sense and restraint compared to that bugger.

everything seemed to start getting better the minute she resigned ....NI, the economy, international relations...


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: SamStone
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 02:00 PM

"model of common sense and restraint" ... So, Big Al or anyone else of higher intelligence than mine please explain what or who this is in reference to ... am i thinking of another person named trump? thanks in advance, can't wait to read this. meanwhile, back under my rock ... Merry Christmas to all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 02:45 PM

Thatcher was frighteningly sane. But skewed. She was fixated on a vision and stuck to it. Trump goes off in any random direction according to which side of the bed he got out of.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 03:07 PM

everything IS relative, is it not!

"a rock of solid common sense," says one opinion on this thread,
referring to the General nicknamed "Mad Dog."   

"a model of common sense and restraint," says one opinion, however sardonically, on the television celebrity whose apprentice successes included the late Joan Rivers
and who "fired" Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth as she was then.

The previous post did not use the words
"impulse control"   but that is how I sum up the opinion of Trump
in the post before this one.
And I agree about Thatcher being fixated and stuck.

One more thing:
I want Hilary Rodham Clinton to stay alive and well.
We need her and we need her working for us, and working hard.
For that reason I don't want Mrs. Clinton in the Oval Office --
she would never survive mentally, even if she survived physically.
But then,
I agree with that chestnut opinion, which I won't say correctly,
that anybody who wants the Oval Office job
has to be out of their heads anyhow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 05:18 PM

To be honest I think Thatcher felt like a nightmare, an unfolding nightmare. And the madder she got - the more her followers (and there were millions,   of them. many of them with impressive degrees, - all the tags of civilisation and education) loved it.

I felt she changed our country into county hell. And the strange thing is - all the people from our class living in our part of the country felt the same. and we all voted out in the referendum - because although Thatch pretended to despise the EEC, she used its regulations to flatten the bastions of union power - the car, the mining, the steel, the rail industry. utter arsehole!

she was like that all the time - she used to pretend to want stuff, like the reintroduction of capital punishment. even though she must have known it would have sent the NI situation off into the stratosphere.

I see Trump as a bit of a swaggering villain. But compared to Mrs T, he seems guileless.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 08:47 PM

The thing, as soon as enough of her supporters in parliament decided she was a liability, they were able to dump her almost overnight. It would be a damn sight harder for their opposite numbers in the States to do that to Trump, even if they felt that way about him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 09:02 PM

well , let's say he wins two terms. that's eight years.

they'll get shut of him three years faster than we did of Thatcher.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Dec 18 - 11:57 PM

his vice president is just as bad in a different way


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Dec 18 - 02:57 AM

It's not about Trump being evil. It's about him being crazy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Dec 18 - 03:13 AM

we're all bad in different ways. its called original sin.
nothing to do with religion - just an accurate observation.

Apart from Jayne Torvill - she was angelic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: SamStone
Date: 26 Dec 18 - 11:08 AM

the vice pres (the lump) looks like he may flog himself with nettles daily...


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Dec 18 - 11:11 AM

"original sin." Bollocks.

And Trump is bad in lots of ways.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Dec 18 - 02:27 PM

What is bad is the limited and type of knowledge Trump relies upon. He is a cash flow investor of a small family business compared to the big boys like Marriot and large Casinos. He also believes that for him to win demands there is a loser. Humiliation is an unneeded part of his business equation.
This does not bode well for foreign policy or Allie formation. It also allows for corruption, lying and bribes to be part of his business model.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Dec 18 - 11:06 AM

Excellent resolution for the new year - Get Rid of Trump. Let's make it happen. Vote any time you have the opportunity and write to your representatives. Join groups like the ACLU that light a fire under him for unconstitutional activity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Dec 18 - 05:47 PM

2019 will be a year of note
no more for nitwits will we vote
This year we will not miss the boat
Said he, with a Trump in his throat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 02:54 PM

And so the US enters the New Year
with the federal government shut down.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: John P
Date: 31 Dec 18 - 05:39 PM

Too bad Trump didn't get sent home like all the federal workers he screwed over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jan 19 - 10:41 PM

The economic insult from the Trump shutdown hits us tomorrow. The obvious sights of the shut down has already hit the eyes and noses of the public in the form of public restrooms which have overflowed and crusted over at certain government facilities and all National Parks.
Shit happens.
Also rescue crews are grounded and visitors who encounter accidents and injury must save themselves.

Trump is proud to call this shutdown a Trump shutdown and will not blame Democrats who caused this mess. :^\


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Kim C
Date: 03 Jan 19 - 09:29 AM

Trump is awful.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 19 - 09:50 AM

He made a Game of Thrones comparison by having himself put on a poster displayed on the table in his cabinet meeting.

I should remind him he is much like Cersi with the hair color, cruelty and is also suspected to be heavily invested in incest as well as being a compulsive consummate liar. Also he doesn't seem to know that the GOT WALL was completely destroyed in the last episode allowing the rebel army of the dead access to civilization.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jan 19 - 08:09 AM

No one could fix this shattered man
to learn or help him understand
Now a shut down has prevented all
rescue when he fell from his wall.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: EBarnacle
Date: 06 Jan 19 - 10:27 PM

The real issue with the shut down is that it costs Trump nothing personally. By transforming it into a zero sum game the side that blinks loses. He has nothing to gain by compromising.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 07:13 AM

Trump either doesn't understand trade, or deliberately misrepresents it. A couple of days ago he was saying that if tariffs stayed in place, "China will be paying us lots of money". Wrong Donald, the tariffs are on imports, it is American consumers who will be paying lots of money. Tariffs are a direct tax on consumers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Hrothgar
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 07:39 AM

Perish the thought - after four years of Trump, we might start thinking this is normal


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Subject: The Catch 22's of the Trump shut down.
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 08:33 AM

For those government workers out of work with no pay check it is actually illegal for them to get another job anywhere. It would have to be reviewed by an ethics committee and the ethics bureau is shut down.

You may hear that all missed salaries will be reimbursed but there is no existing Congressional law that guarantees that. In other normal times Congress helped reimbursements but these are not normal times.

Lies are being spewed fast and furiously by White house cabinet figures and the President but no one knows if a national emergency can be based on an obvious lie.

IRS forms are unavailable to people seeking to mortgage a home. But buying homes with cash is OK. It is ironic to expect border agents to work for free or dangerous to have air traffic controllers volunter to work for free.

By this weekend the Trump shutdown will be the longest shut down in history.

How many will quit is unknown.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 19 - 09:17 AM

A catch-22 is a paradoxical situation from which an individual cannot escape because of contradictory rules. Catch-22s often result from rules, regulations, or procedures that an individual is subject to, but has no control over, because to fight the rule is to accept it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: robomatic
Date: 08 Jan 19 - 09:35 PM

Someone should make a GOT poster with Trump as his natural character - Joffrey: Juvenile, petulant, with skewed (thanks for that word) sexual tastes, easily amused by terrible things, doing swift change-of-themes that get people's heads removed, etc. etc.


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Subject: President Trump SHUTDIWN.
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jan 19 - 05:42 PM

If the worst were to happen, experts say the devastating impact would be widespread:
38 million low-income Americans lose food stamps
6 million face an uncertain timetable for collecting tax refunds
2 million without rental assistance and facing possible eviction
800,000 paycheck-less federal employees plunged into dire financial straits
Shuttered parks and museums while overstressed airports cause tourism to tank
Federal court system slows to a crawl
Disaster relief money doesn't get to storm-ravaged areas
Lapsed FDA and EPA inspections lead to dangerous outbreaks


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mossback
Date: 10 Jan 19 - 06:55 PM

Absolutely, Donuel: President Lying-Sack Dumpster-File, champion of the working man!

And you bet the dumb fuckers'll still support & vote for him!

Ya can't cure stupid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jan 19 - 09:13 AM

Today I heard people I would never have expected of suggesting a Huey Long solution, make many and varied solutions to solve this executive biologic inertia problem.

In Rome if you didn't pay the Pretorian Guard your days were numbered.

Today you can watch but you should not use the words that I am obviously avoiding.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mr Red
Date: 14 Jan 19 - 05:19 AM

the OP asks what is Twitler going to do with 22 Million military personnel?

Well - if he can find the paymasters (who are being payed that is) to keep them pliant..................



build a wall?



I'll get my trowel (to keep my spirit level up!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 19 - 10:11 PM

Mr. Laufman chief of counter intelligence for the FBI has written "now is the time for all good men and women come to the aid of their country." after the NYT exposed the fact that the FBI opened an investigation of Trump being an agent of Russia.

He is gently introducing the obvious to the people of the US who are about a year behind the information curve. Although Trump says "I never worked for Russia" he may be a useful idiot for Putin or a stupid dupe via extortion and bribery or a spy for Russia in return for profit.

"I never worked for Russia" is the 'I am not a crook moment' in history.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Jan 19 - 12:13 AM

What Donuel says about Kathy Griffin is untrue. No crime in *pretending* to behead the prez. She was charged, and the charges were of course dropped, with *actually* trying to behead him. Which would be a crime.

And when did Israel kill Kennedy? New one, that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Jan 19 - 02:46 AM

So, this week's story is that the FBI has been investigating Donald Trump for being a Russian agent. It's even being reported by National Public Radio. Back in 1953, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed for being agents for Soviet Russia - leaving children behind to live in shame. How are Trump's actions different from those of the Rosenbergs?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jan 19 - 11:31 AM

Anyone want to bet against Trump hating this Gillette ad if he is asked? Perhaps in a tweet?


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jan 19 - 06:37 AM

Joe, the only physical evidence was a sketch on a napkin that showed a U238 core surrounded by circle of TNT. I saw an old CIA analysis that stressed the religion of the Rosenbergs being paramount in keeping all Jews intimidated and controllable.
Fear, ignorance and prejudice were different back then.



Mrzzy I suppose trying to condense what Kathy
said amounts to a lie


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Jan 19 - 07:44 AM

Smiley face, Donuel!


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jan 19 - 02:05 PM

Government shuts down town https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/alabama-city-struggles-shutdown-enters-day-26-no-end-sight-n959346


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jan 19 - 02:13 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/nancy-pelosi-state-of-the-union-donald-trump/index.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jan 19 - 05:59 PM

Counterfeit copies of the Washington Post were delivered and sold in DC today (fake news)
the headlines were Trump Resigns.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: skarpi
Date: 17 Jan 19 - 11:36 AM

Well if Trump tell us from the white house that Solar Warden is real , and tell us that we are not alone , he get´s a thump´s up , every one that get ´s stated to the white house has been a real Chicken when it come to that matter , they just have no balls to do it .
as I said Chicken´s .

but building a wall , what do the People do then , they fly over it . Not a problem .

The world is watching at the Trump Action ´s as well at Brexit matter .
all the best Skarpi Iceland .


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 19 - 03:43 PM

You bring up an interesting question.
Is Brexit worse than Trump?

I think yes. A whole system has failed the UK.
One man stymies the USA.

As few as I in 4 people believe in a wall.

Our right wing does NOT believe in evolution, science and now apparently
tunnels.



Trump orders the Speaker of the House Pelosi to be banned from flying to meet with NATO, troops or beyond our border. his happened while Nancy was on the way to the airport.

Trump orders

funny thing is Nancy was NOT going to all those places


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Jan 19 - 08:45 AM

Satire in not fake news... And I don't live in Europe so Trump feels worse than Brexit. To me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Jan 19 - 02:19 PM

Is, not in, sorry. https://slate.com/technology/2019/01/fake-washington-post-not-fake-news-yes-men-parody.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Iains
Date: 18 Jan 19 - 05:11 PM

Trump orders the Speaker of the House Pelosi to be banned from flying to meet with NATO, troops or beyond our border. his happened while Nancy was on the way to the airport.

Correction: CNN: Trump denies Peloski military aircraft for warzone trip.

“In light of the 800,000 great American workers not receiving pay, I am sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate,” Trump said in the letter.

“We will reschedule this seven-day excursion when the Shutdown is over,” he added, noting Pelosi and the other lawmakers were free to make their own travel arrangements “by flying commercial.”


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Jan 19 - 07:17 PM

Ahhhhh, skarpi, I agree with Donuel about your command of English!

Although it seems you meant Solar Warming?
Your post reads Solar Warden which is enough to give a person ideas.

Thumps Up rather than Thumbs Up -- that's funny!


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: skarpi
Date: 19 Jan 19 - 05:52 AM

my English is not first , Icelandic is , but Solar Warden it is ...the us is warm yes ..

someday you ´ll all understand .

I might be able to see it, it will be there .

The world need to know .

all the best with the shut down , and Brit´s vote again , this brexit is the worst thing ever for you , it´s a elite´s game .

all the best Skarpi .


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jan 19 - 11:13 AM

An astrologer with a public website --
and a copyright on everything on the site --
has an opinion (professional, after all) on the presidency.

The message in Trump's own personal chart, says the professional,
is that Trump is not the boss, but the hardworking employee on the job.
Working for ... somebody else.
The boss is not Trump, but whoever put Trump to work in the first place.

That's a scary idea.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 19 - 12:24 PM

Sometimes I expect Putin to graciously volunteer his own government to assist Trump since the US government has closed down. :^/


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 19 - 07:01 AM

Kamala Harris has announced that she will run for President.
I don't know, Is America really ready for a real President.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: skarpi
Date: 22 Jan 19 - 10:19 AM

I have a question ? :
Is the shut down a mask , so they can do things behind it , while the shut down is ?
The debs of the USA are so big and growing every day , and they always delay doing some thing about it , for six month´s now and six month´s next time ..am I wrong ? .

just wondering my mind around , sorry for all those folks who won´t get paid , to live .
Bad move Mr Trump .

All the best Skarpi .


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 19 - 10:30 AM

'a mask' is maybe not an 'on purpose' strategy BUT many bad things can be done during the shutdown. Delays, hacking, changing internal data, court cases etc.
I do not want to be specific.
Bad actors could be foreign or domestic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 19 - 11:19 AM

The Supreme Court ruled that the Trump ban on transgender military personnel WILL NOW take effect.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Jan 19 - 11:23 AM

One might also consider, Skarpi,
what is being done
while President Trump distracts everybody.

But not if one is faint of heart. Like me ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: gillymor
Date: 25 Jan 19 - 06:30 AM

Just this moment FBI arrests Roger Stone on 7 counts- 1 obstruction, 5 false statements, 1 witness tampering.
Time wounds all heels.
Good article in WaPo this morn on the Corsi, Stone, Alex Jones relationship.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 06:29 PM

I'm the last to find this stuff out ...

"Let Me Finish," the new book by Chris Christie
who was ousted from the Trump White House staff,
outlines amongst other things
the reason that Mister Ivanka cannot stand Chris Christie.

Ivanka's father-in-law, Jared Kushner's father,
was prosecuted by Chris Christie when he was
New Jersey State Attorney,
found guilty, and sentenced to serve hard time.
I just never heard that sordid tale before,
but it is documented and everything.

And Ivanka married into that family anyhow. Ugh ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Feb 19 - 11:22 AM

Its all Fake News or so says Roger Stone. He even made an innuendo in an Instagram that his Federal Judge should be shot.

So these are the personalities of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Hillary had it pegged 30 years ago.


The man who has taken Chris Christy's book off the best selling list as well as Michelle Obama's book is McCabe, former FBI counter intelligence chief who opened an investigation to determine if Trump was/is a Russian asset. Trump fired him 26 hours before McCabe would qualify for benefits. Obstruction? Attempt to Obstruct? that's ok they both carry the same sentence.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Feb 19 - 03:56 PM

Our right wing does NOT believe in evolution, science and now apparently tunnels.

Or ladders, lifts, welding torch cutters, airplanes, or boats.

And you're right, as one of the earliest recipients of that negative firepower, Hillary has been aware of this conspiracy for a long time.

Now if there was a way to stop the entire Trump administration from being the largest source of clickbait ever.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: gillymor
Date: 21 Feb 19 - 04:42 AM

"And Ivanka married into that family anyhow. Ugh ..."

I'd say she married up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mossback
Date: 21 Feb 19 - 06:30 PM

"And Ivanka married into that family anyhow. Ugh ."

She should feel right at home, as her husband will soon be in a cell as will her Father and the rest of his Gang of Felons.

"Trump administration from being the largest source of clickbait ever"

Now, wait just a damn minute! - what about the Kardashians? (Or is that Cardassians?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Feb 19 - 08:44 PM

heh heh
The apple doesn't fail far from the tree

Thank goodness for Trump. He has inspired the true and present need for election reforms like;

IQ test
ban Electoral college
make Nazi candidates ineligible
Have a friendly Jeopardy gameshow run off with all candidates
Must pass 5th grade level exam of how government works.
Psychological inventory
Putin may not count our election results


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 16 Jun 19 - 04:54 AM

In response to Trumps twitter attacks on our Mayor of London, who compared with him was elected by a majority of voters; 23 people murdered in USA in a single day. America needs a new president.

Trumps tweet

This is just guns


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Jun 19 - 10:56 AM

There is nothing Donald Trump could do that would be egregious enough to get the Republican controlled Senate to vote to remove him from office. Though many Republican senators would possibly be happy to have Mike Pence be president, his ascendancy would leave the vice presidency vacant. That would leave Speaker Of the House Nancy Pelosi next in line to be president. If Pence were to die before a new VP nominee could be confirmed, Pelosi would become president. And there's no guarantee anyone would be confirmed to succeed Pence as vice president. The nomination would have to be approved by both houses of Congress and the Democrat-controlled House would be happy to stonewall until a new VP is chosen by election in 2020.

If the Republicans still controlled both houses of Congress, getting rid of Trump in favor of Pence might be a remote possibility. The order of succession would still be Republican all the way down. But with Democrats in charge of The House and Pelosi currently third in the order of succession, it's simply not going to happen.

Republican senators are willing to put up with anything Trump does or says because having him in office minimizes the chances that an untimely stroke or heart attack might result in a President Pelosi.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 16 Jun 19 - 12:27 PM

Sorry, that should say 26 in one day. Trump condemning Sadiq Khan for 3 deaths is pure hypopcracy - Ttruymp should be damanding that America gets rid of Trump. Either that, or the nasty scum like Trump should shut their ignorant mouths.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Jun 19 - 01:25 PM

Had a very unpleasant five-minute experience during my holiday in Sicily last week. Was on my way down to Isola Bella on the hotel shuttlebus, finding myself sat between a Scotsman and an aged yank who was sporting a silly red baseball cap, weird multicoloured socks and a John Bolton moustache (no, it wasn't him).

Yank broke the silence with "I see you have our president in London right now."

Much uncomplementary but almost inaudible muttering from Scot.

Sez I, in attempted jocular vein, "Yeah, we'll keep him if you like but it'll cost you..."

Awkward silence.

"We like him..."

Scot virtually erupting...

"Anyone but Hillary, we say..."

Glad I was sat between 'em...

"She's a piece of work, she is. Even her husband would've been preferable..."

Never witnessed such a concentrated clutch of conversation-stoppers in my life...


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mr Red
Date: 17 Jun 19 - 06:13 PM

Shame on you. As an Englishman you should have opined "Nice weather we are having (other weathers are available)".


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Jun 19 - 08:11 PM

Well, Mr Red, cut me some slack here. I was quite literally the middle man and I did manage to keep the peace!


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: SamStone
Date: 17 Jun 19 - 09:40 PM

anybody wanna trades kings?...monarchs?...despots?


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Jun 19 - 03:13 AM

Well, Mr Red, cut me some slack here

Er a bit of slack would fuel the fire!


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 18 Jun 19 - 04:22 AM

Seems a fair case to be made that Pence would be more dangerous than Trump. He is a militarist, a climate change denier, and moved in circles where they genuinely believe that starting a war in the middle east would usher in the Rapture. Trump pays lip service to this shit as it sits well with his electors, Pence seems to genuinely believe at least some of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 18 Jun 19 - 04:49 AM

”...and moved in circles where they genuinely believe that starting a war in the middle east would usher in the Rapture.”

So, in short, he’s a superstitious fuck-wit. And superstitious, fuck-witted Americans will love him...


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 18 Jun 19 - 01:22 PM

Well I have been accused in these columns of insensitivity towards Americans, so, you may say that, but I couldn't possibly comment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Jun 19 - 01:47 PM

and... if Trump were impeached and convicted, Pence would probably pardon him. No wonder Pelosi wants to wait for the election.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 18 Jun 19 - 02:22 PM

”Well I have been accused in these columns of insensitivity towards Americans, so, you may say that, but I couldn't possibly comment.”

David, I’m not saying all Americans are superstitious fuck-wits. Far from it - I worked, for the final 13 years of my working life, for an American company based in Houston TX, and I spent a significant amount of time working over there, so I’m aware that there are good, sensible, nice Americans as well as horrible, superstitious, fuck-wit Americans.

But the fact of Trump’s election, and the belief many seem to hold that “The President was aaaaaww-dained bah aa-a-almighteh Ga-a-a-ad”, (as one informed me very forcefully!) suggests that there are a significant number of Americans who fall into the latter category.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: skarpi
Date: 18 Jun 19 - 08:37 PM

Trump does not believe in Global warming , well this you should read
if you do not believe in it , this is huge https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48674797#

all the best Skarpi


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: gillymor
Date: 18 Jun 19 - 10:55 PM

Judging from the brexit referendum outcome I'd say the UK has at least an equal amount of fuckwits per capita.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: robomatic
Date: 19 Jun 19 - 12:35 AM

As an American, I believe one of my favorite Britishisms about our fair country, coined WAY before the Current Occupant was the following:

"American is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence without an intervening period of civiliztion".

Gets us in the prverbial nuts-hell.

God Save The Queen


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Jun 19 - 01:47 AM

”Judging from the brexit referendum outcome I'd say the UK has at least an equal amount of fuckwits per capita.”

And I’d be the first to agree with you, Gilly.

”As an American, I believe one of my favorite Britishisms about our fair country, coined WAY before the Current Occupant was the following:
"America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence without an intervening period of civiliztion".
Gets us in the proverbial nuts-hell.
God Save The Queen”


And I’d be the first to agree with you too, Robo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 19 Jun 19 - 09:43 AM

BWM, am not saying that you do say that, just quoting House of Cards (the real one).


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mossback
Date: 19 Jun 19 - 10:52 AM

All anyone who doesn't think that the U.S. is infested with a large and ever-increasing crop of superstitious, ignorant, racist fuck-wits need do is watch video of a Trumpshit Rally.

And Robo, I think you'll find your quotation is a"French-Ism".


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 19 Jun 19 - 06:51 PM

Latest update in USA body count 56 on Monday. No stats for Tuesday yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Jun 19 - 07:50 PM

We can get rid of Trump........ but there's probably 200,000,000 guns out there... legal AND illegal. It's worse than ants at a picnic...


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Mossback
Date: 19 Jun 19 - 09:14 PM

Getting rid of Trumpshit won't accomplish a thing unless we can get rid of the 62,984,828 fuckwits who originally voted for him and more importantly the utter fuckwits that account for his current 40% - 45% approval rating.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Jun 19 - 11:27 PM

It’s becoming as bad in the UK. The Conservative Party are currently charging headlong towards electing a rabidly neo-liberal Trump-Fan-Boy as their Party Leader, and therefore our Prime Minister.

Not a pleasant state of affairs, People with more than their fair share of influence are taking leave of their senses. I predict it will all end in tears.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jun 19 - 11:58 AM

"... 62,984,828 fuckwits who originally voted for him.."

And it did no good that almost 3,000,000 more voted for Clinton. We need to change the system, as well as the 'resident'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 20 Jun 19 - 01:53 PM

Only 26 yesterday (19th).


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 20 Jun 19 - 01:56 PM

Mass shooting in Allentown PA today, only 10 injured. Trump needs to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Get rid of President Trump.
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jun 19 - 04:20 PM

Trump does need to go... but that won't change too many dangerous people with too many guns.

Or do you just like keeping records?


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