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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: SamStone
Date: 04 Nov 18 - 10:07 AM

Please go out and VOTE! We catters can help end this abomination.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Nov 18 - 09:16 AM

He's just BLESSED BARBED WIRE
- doubt if even the Pope would do that !!
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Nov 18 - 04:05 PM

He could be lying. He could be insane.


But he is both.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Nov 18 - 04:03 PM

The first boots on the ground hot war in the Trump era is 15,000 troops who he says will fire on asylum seekers if
They throw anything at US. I call it the Great Taco War.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Nov 18 - 03:23 PM

HAIS is old. It started in the 19th century to help Jews enter the US


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Oct 18 - 04:13 PM

I do monitor the Jew hating websites and even visited the one the gunman posted on prior to the shooting.
The Tree of Life Synagogue supports Hebrew Immigration Aid Society. HIAS. The gunman sees Jews helping Immigrants into "HIS' country.

You could look at extreme sites too if you have the stomach for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 31 Oct 18 - 02:13 PM

who gave him [Sayoc] the idea...who put him up to it. Who planted the motive.

Easy! Trump & his violence-supporting Republican/Trumpist enablers & supporters.

who taught Cesar Seyoc to make bombs.

Any one of dozens- if not hundreds- of websites. The information is freely available. Another benefit of the Internet.

The truck driver who attacked Jews in Pittsburgh told police that Jews are committing genocide against his people. Who gave him that idea?

Well, Trump himself to begin with, or his officials/buddies Steve Bannon, Sebastian Gorka, Doug Domenech, Jon Feere, Julie Kirchner,Teresa Manning, Shannon Royce, Charmaine Yoest, or from any of Trump's "Very Fine Nazis" in Charlottesville & elsewhere and from their numerous anti semitic and/or white supremecist websites, from Brietbart, from Qanon- the sources are endless - and the vast majority of them inspired and energized by or approved of by Trump.

Does that help?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: leeneia
Date: 31 Oct 18 - 01:04 PM

"Couldn't operate the microwave."
"Was a child in a man's body."

Bowers - when police approached he ran upstairs and hid in a room - a dead end, rather than running out a door and into a waiting car.   

How else would you describe such minds?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Jeri
Date: 31 Oct 18 - 10:40 AM

Where are you getting the idea that these people are mentally handicapped?
Please give references, because I can't find them. Ill, probably, handicapped, not so much.

Trump encourages violence.
Period.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: leeneia
Date: 31 Oct 18 - 10:30 AM

If he was a child in a man's body, why aren't investigators asking who gave him the idea, the names and titles of victims, their addresses, and most importantly, how to assemble a bomb?

His bombs were packaged so naively, they might as well have had big writing that said "Caution, contains bomb."

I see this too often - a perp who is mentally handicapped, who commits crimes past his abilities, and nobody asks who put him up to it. Who planted the motive and taught him the method?

The criminal at Margery Stoneman Douglas high school was so helpless he could not operate a microwave or clothes washer. Who gave him the idea of by-passing school security by entering the school against the flow at dismissal time?

The truck driver who attacked Jews in Pittsburgh told police that Jews are committing genocide against his people. Who gave him that idea? The guy was too stupid to figure out a back door out of the building. Who taught him the word genocide?

As much as I despise our current President, he is not the one who taught Cesar Seyoc to make bombs. It is time to find out who, why and how malefactors are exploiting the mentally handicapped.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 29 Oct 18 - 09:11 AM

Someone from the family suggested he's a child in a man's body.

So is Trump.


how sincere is trump when he says that he will tone down the rhetoric

As Jeri points out, he said no such thing. But even if he had, he's a lying sack of shit, so it would make no difference.

BAMA = Bomb Amerika Great Again.

Heil Trump!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 18 - 05:53 AM

Now that executive permission has been given to kill/massacre Jews, we hear more silence here than voices and even some of those inside voices support white nationalism. You don't need names to see who the are.

There are no grey areas in hate


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Jeri
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 04:31 PM

For the record, he said he WOULDN'T "tone it down".
I suppose you can't let the right wing nut jobs have all the fun with hate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 03:56 PM

When Trump unequivocably proclaimed I am a Nationalist, over and over That was the signal to loose the dogs of hell and white Nationalists to show their strength. He will say what he needs to say to popularize himself with any wider base. He will not cancel more rallies but will increase them. He says mass shooters will pay the ultimate price but nothing of the victims. When asked how this will stop he said 'they' didn't have any security they wanted to save costs.

It has come to mind half the people on mudcat have associations with nationalism from the time they were kids. It lives within them either silently or as an old normality. Some are practically rabid.

So the real killing now begins. This year the 247 mass shootings have passed a threshold. I have warned directly and obliquly for 20 years with a fist and make no mistake, I won't be missed but I can not associate with the nationalists here.
I was last in line when they dispensed smart,
So in consolation I was given a talent to see beyond and around corners, Now there is nothing left to warn about and my talent is worn out,
The future will be read as history and the warnings are a waste.
All good things must end and the gifts will be swallowed by rifts.
As the right moves from aspirational to operational, friends will be set adrift,
It was not the best way to touch lives but it was my way.
The time to go has now arrived I told you so, now I must go away.
The uncaring cheers may be silence but not knowing where you are going will not save you from war.
For those with an old heart of gold, be well be bold.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: SamStone
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 03:42 PM

on a scale of 1 to 10 how sincere is trump when he says that he will tone down the rhetoric...but remember it is the media causing the problems and somehow teflon don will never admit that he is in any small way to blame...what as a country have we become. is it possible to sink much lower? remember the "1st lady"(sic) is bought and paid for.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 12:20 PM

First Lady Melania Trump on Twitter:


    "My heart breaks over the news out of #Pittsburgh. The violence needs to stop. May God bless, guide & unite the United States of America."


Lady, talk to your fucking husband. And the fucking NRA.


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Subject: RE:BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 11:55 AM

https://www.ranker.com/list/american-militia/mike-rothschild
   
There are many such folks


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 11:49 AM

NPR reported that his family has been distressed by this man's mental state for decades, that they weren't able to get him the medical and psychiatric attention he needed (he refused). His stance and noise are totally in opposition to the views of the rest of his family - sounds like he's acting out in a couple of ways here. Someone from the family suggested he's a child in a man's body.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 10:04 AM

That may be but my contention is 20% will never believe it and another 20% will be uncertain.


Have you ever seen a hypnotist tell someone on stage that they have entirely forgotten the number 7 and later they are asked to count to ten and they go from ..4 5 6 to 8.. without hesitation?
THAT IS EASY
It is as though not believing something is a natural state of mind for half of us. The smaller 20% can follow suggestions that create a novel behavior or a newly imagined order.

Not believing the number 7 exists, blocking a memory, causes a person to make up an easily accepted excuse ( a conspiracy theory) to rationalize their experience.
I was trained for over two years and self discovered hypnotic truths for 12 years. You have heard me say hypnosis and politics is just one example of how odd we may behave in special circumstances.


It does not matter how bizarre a -lie- , there are people who will believe it. Priests and doctors are sometimes aware of this.


In light of how 'crazy' conspiracies can be, I hope you can see how they do exist in a new light and perspective.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 09:41 AM

Well we were promised swift justice.

And he looks the kind of guy who would enjoy speaking from the witness stand.

The thing is, how can you blame a simpleton who has been told by the President that these people have tried to do down his country?

Well obviously you can, Bill Clinton famous got a guy eletrocuted who thought he was sharing the death cell with imaginary chickens, because he thought it would upset the wanker vote to reprieve him.

Still....I wouldn't be surprised if this one is adjudged mentally incompetent to plead. It would save a lot of red faces if he was prevented from getting his day in court.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: robomatic
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 02:26 AM

I do like the van down by the river analogy, but this guy is just a wacko, the van looked to be relatively clean, just totally bandaged in bumperstickers and posters.

And let us not forget that a gun-totin' wacko shot p a group of Republican elected officials just practising their baseball last year, and one of them was wounded most painfully.

This seems to be being handled by professionals who know how to do their business. And the AM radio idjits are just being themselves.

World Series still tied and going into the bottom of the 15th Inning. Now THAT STUFF IS IMPORTANT!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Thompson
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 02:18 AM

A male stripper is accused. Wait for the jokes to land…


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 07:22 PM

The conspiracy theorists have proof of a double false flag.
Warning this is a typical right wing blog https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/190903469/


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 06:52 PM

Strange Jeri?

Hardly.

Trump being the ne plus ultra of lying scumbag bullshit artists, what else would one expect?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: SamStone
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 06:16 PM

who suggested violence should be directed towards the dems and the press...just sayin'


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 06:15 PM

I was joking with my wife and said, "He lives in a van    down by the river".
When a npr report said 'Apparently the perpetrator lives in a van down by the river. (remembering Chris Farley fondly)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Jeri
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 05:43 PM

The whole thing is so strange. First, Trump condemns the bombing, and political violence, then he's back to "lock her up" and his usual language. Is he so disconnected, that he can't understand he's setting the tone of it all? (I know: stupid question)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Thompson
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 05:24 PM

The Boston Tea Party wasn't political violence, it was fiscal sabotage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 04:40 PM

The voices of our President and Republican Congress regarding the partisan bomb threats are rising in a united clarion call of ABDICATION.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 03:50 PM

Trump now says "we must never allow political violence to take root in America". Which is a fundamental misunderstanding of his country's history. What the hell does he think the Boston Tea Party was?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:45 PM

That being said Bill is my kind of Democrat


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:40 PM

Of course if your aim is to heat things up you could always put stuff in the mail.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:30 PM

Sorry, David, I should have been more specific.

I was talking about political opponents - not those considered by the Tories to be wogs and untermenschen.

Cheers,

Bill


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:25 PM

Thats quite a feat of digital image processing Iains "blurred and when blown up even more blurred".


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:24 PM

OK clown, here you go since you're incapable of doing this yourself:

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5bd343d7210000de03c98c5a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Iains
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:18 PM

Well Mr carter if you have such clear photos perhaps you would care to elucidate instead of smart answers. All the photos I have seen are blurred and when blown up are even more blurred. I cannot read any of the posters. If I could, I would not ask for a link now, would I?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:17 PM

So now we know, these people are no better than UK Tories

Well, I dunno about that - as despicable as the Tories are, can't recall them sending bombs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:15 PM

And now we know from here that the man arrested is a registered republican. So now we know, these people are no better than UK tories. And Aneurin Bevan had tories down to a tee. "Lower than vermin". Describes tories, and apparently also US republicans perfectly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Iains
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 01:58 PM

Can anyone link to a clear photograph of the van. The only photo I have seen is out of focus and the slogans cannot be read or the person included in the slogans identified.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 01:01 PM

Prosecutors will want to throw the book at the guy but they better be careful. The most they can get is possesion of bomb componets and manufacture.
All the guy has to prove is that he only meant to scare and made sure it could not explode, and he could beat other charges such as WMD production. All that legal stuff is probably a year from now.

Auto Zone is getting lots of free advertising as they are questioned by the FBI.
Good job all around getting the guy or conspirators.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 12:41 PM

Another photo shows that the officials overseeing this arrest are US Postal Police.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 12:35 PM

Its a false window decal operation now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 12:35 PM

So he was a registered Republican? Who could possibly have suspected that?

Or maybe he is actually a Democrat sleeper who registered Republican to fool people. Damn, they are a sneaky lot, these Democrats.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 12:34 PM

RawStory article. You may have to click through the popup screen asking you to turn off ad blockers (I already have, actually, so it's perturbing that it still pops up).
Law enforcement officials arrested a man in Florida, identified as Cesar Sayoc, in connection to the 12 mail bombs sent to lawmakers and public officials Friday.

For a brief moment, cable news broadcast a blurry image of a white van thought to belong to the suspect, before law enforcement covered it with a tarp. A resident of Florida later sent an image of the van to CBS Miami, which clearly showed the vehicle was covered in pro-Trump stickers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: meself
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 12:17 PM

Good one!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 12:12 PM

His van, allegedly, is covered with Trump stickers. Obviously insane.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 12:08 PM

New York Times
Federal authorities made an arrest on Friday in connection with the nationwide bombing campaign against outspoken critics of President Trump, a significant breakthrough in a case that has gripped the country in the days leading up to the midterm elections.

It was not immediately clear who had been taken into custody, but a man was arrested in Florida, three law-enforcement officials said. One of them said the man was in his 50s.


Washington Post
A law enforcement official said the person in custody was a man in his 50s. According to another person familiar with the investigation, this man lives in Florida near a facility which the packages were mailed through. It remains unclear if this man acted alone or had help, this person said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: meself
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 12:07 PM

Of course, if the suspect proves to be the perp - he'll never admit that it was the evil George Soros who put him up to it, will he? His very denial will be all the proof I need that the Democrats conspired to blow themselves up - but being Democrats, were too incompetent to do it right. MAGA (Make America Go Assbackwards)!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 11:34 AM

Ha Ha, see I told you your 'who benefits' argument was nonsense.
The guy arrested is an all Trump all the time nationalist fan/warrior.
Assuming he did it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 10:59 AM

I would suggest the timing of these events is to influence the electorate, possibly generating a sympathy vote for democrats. So the question must be asked again = who benefits?

That's the spin a conservative would place on these acts of terrorism.


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