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Subject: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 11:01 AM

Time Warner/CNN, George Soros and other prominate Democrats.
These pipe bombs have not gone off but were deivered as if they were mail. Terrorism of this kind seems like white nationals to me.

Well its October, surprised?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 11:05 AM

The Cold Civil War, with the prompting by Trump at his rallies, has apparently heated up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 11:30 AM

FoX nEwS reports that while this kind of thing is not exactly appropriate you have to expect this when politicians are made to be afraid by mobs when at a restaurant. It is important to be very afraid and shelter in place when ordered to do so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 11:37 AM

above remarks from Jan Brewer on FOX


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 11:55 AM

If more bombs are found that fit the MO of the Trump enemy of the people list, I would expect more targets like the NYT, Washington Post and Debbie Wasserman Shultz whose name appears as the return address on the bombs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: DMcG
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 12:03 PM

Yes, being refused service in a restaurant is an exact parallel to a bomb in the post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 12:05 PM

Obviously false flag operations placed by crisis actors paid for by Soros himself (Bearded Bruce will explain) or by Radical Liberals (Joe Offer will explain.

Fake bombs, fake news, Heil Trump!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 12:15 PM

I had that chess thought but baiting Bruce serves no purpose.


I had a very minor role in the unibomber case. The fact that part of the address was computer printed is a good clue. Few people know that that their printer makes a tracable code on their copies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 12:46 PM

A bomb sent to Eric Holder was returned due to an incorrect address. A bomb sent c/o Brennan was also incorrect and even incorrect for CNN. The misuse of google makes a pattern.

Black powder is being called a rudimentary device - as well as address research.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 01:09 PM

FYI...

"In a statement, the White House condemned “the attempted violent attacks.”

“These terrorizing acts are despicable, and anyone responsible will be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law,” the statement said. “The United States Secret Service and other law enforcement agencies are investigating and will take all appropriate actions to protect anyone threatened by these cowards.” "

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"The news of the devices set off a small wave of false reports. Some media outlets reported that a similar device had been addressed to President Trump at the White House, until the Secret Service debunked the account. An hour or so later, a similar report emerged that a device had been sent to Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York, but his spokesman, Richard Azzopardi said on Twitter that it was “untrue.”

Early this month, federal authorities said they intercepted multiple packages suspected of containing the lethal substance ricin, addressed to President Trump and at least two top Pentagon officials."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/three-explosive-devices-sent-to-clintons-obama-and-cnn-offices/ar-BBOPm1p?ocid=ientp


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barak, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 01:14 PM

The attempted assasination or maiming of two Presidents and a cabinate member including mass media and donors, as Biden would say "This is a big fucking deal".

In addition to pipe bombs White powder is being analyzed. Ground up castor bean seeds are poisonous but is not Ricin. Given the lack of evident sophistication, I would not expect ricin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 01:58 PM

So, Donuel,

I'll mark you down as agreeing with Trump on this one.

"In a statement, the White House condemned “the attempted violent attacks.”

“These terrorizing acts are despicable, and anyone responsible will be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law,” the statement said. “The United States Secret Service and other law enforcement agencies are investigating and will take all appropriate actions to protect anyone threatened by these cowards.” "


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 02:17 PM

Holy Shit. I was kidding but the Trumpist Assholes are serious!

Minutes after news broke of “potential explosive devices” being mailed to the homes of former Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, along with CNN’s New York City studio, the dark corners of the conservative Internet were declaring it a plot to gin up empathy for Democrats.

Cries that the bomb threats was merely a “false flag” operation were evident on Twitter and pro-Trump forums.

Popular talk radio host Rush Limbaugh hinted that the attempted bombings were set-up by Democrats, saying they would serve a political “purpose.”

Frank Gaffney, an Islamophobe who has held posts on Sen. Ted Cruz’s (R-TX) presidential campaign and in the Ronald Reagan White House, suggested the packages were a “deflection” technique. “. “So let’s determine not only who is responsible for these bombs, but whether they were trying to deflect attention from the Left’s mobs.”

John Cardillo, a former NYPD officer and popular right-wing radio host, initially denounced political violence on both sides of the aisle, but quickly broadcast his skepticism that the threats were legit. “Just too coincidental that two weeks before Election Day... explosive devices show up in the mailboxes of Soros, Clinton, and Obama.”


https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-trump-media-insists-bomb-threats-against-clinton-obama-cnn-are-pure-bs-a-false-flag

"In a statement, the White House condemned “the attempted violent attacks.”

You mean the violent attacks instigated and supported by Agent Orange's and his cultists' hate speech, dontcha Bruce?

Besides, the POSOTUS & Vice-POSOTUS can't open their mouths without lying- so who gives a shit what they say?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 02:27 PM

Mossback,

"You mean the violent attacks instigated and supported by Agent Orange's and his cultists' hate speech, dontcha Bruce?"

No, I do not.

The hate speech I am seeing is from the anti-Trump bigots, who tell everyone else what they must be thinking. Maybe you should look at what people post instead of assuming everyone is as much a partisan ass-hole as you appear to be.


'Besides, the Anti-Trump Assholes can't open their mouths without lying- so who gives a shit what they say?'

Adds just as much to the conversation as the majority of your posts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 02:40 PM

The hate speech I am seeing is from the anti-Trump bigots

Which raises the question about the folks beating this particular drum:

1- are they simply partisan warriors?

2- are they mindless Trump Cultists who simply block out reality?

3- are they Christian[sic] fundies who support this anti-Christian POS          for political reasons in support of a theocracy only?

4-are they simply deaf and blind?

5- all of the above.

(extra credit awarded for actually raaading & understanding the U.S. Constitution & Bill of Rights)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 03:15 PM

well, whatever the truth - this represents a deterioration in the climate of democracy.

the genie is out of the bottle. NI showed us in this country, it can be tricky and beyond anyone's control getting it back in the bottle.

good luck to you all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 03:15 PM

well, whatever the truth - this represents a deterioration in the climate of democracy.

the genie is out of the bottle. NI showed us in this country, it can be tricky and beyond anyone's control getting it back in the bottle.

good luck to you all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 03:15 PM

Mossback the reason why you had satirical but correct thoughts about the reaction from the right is because they are simplistic conspiracy theories which are no more complex than a double negative.

Bruce you are well aware of my defense of you and your right to speak on many dozens of occasions. Tracing those examples are found mostly in threads that have been closed.

The blowback in the election can not be determined but it is indelible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 03:16 PM

that's odd - I only hit the button once.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 03:45 PM

The conservative Supreme Court ruled that money is free speech and that Corporations are people invested with all the Constitutional rights of a human being.
Yes it sounds crazy but its true.

'If' explosives are a form of speech we will not know what the bomber is saying until the trigger device is known.

Are they saying "See I could have killed you" or is the message "I want you to die and believe only what Trump says at rallies, never thinking for myself".

Or is the bomber saying, "Boo!"   ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 04:22 PM

I don't mean to overinflate my importance but I had a minor role in a thread started by 5 consectuive Don'l posts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 04:44 PM

Mossback: huh???

It sounds like you're trying to insult me, but it's not clear what point you're trying to make.

I'm a moderate. I'm sorry if that makes you not like me.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 05:26 PM

Mr. Offer:

I don't like you or dislike you, Mr Offer, I don't know you.

But I DO remember you repeatedly damning "radical liberals" for causing all manner of unpleasantness and maintaining that (to paraphrase) that no-one is as good or as bad as people see them.

I assume that this particular observation of yours includes the piece of lying, corrupt, racist crap currently polluting the White House (with his gang of corrupt criminals) and making the U.S. the laughingstock of the world.

If so, you're not a moderate, you're an apologist for the Trumpist arseholes that are taking the U.S. down the toilet.

I'm sorry if confronting you with these facts makes you not like me.

Cheers,

Bill


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Jack Campin
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 05:53 PM

This is presumably just the start. Some Democrats are going to take seats at the mid-terms: some of the new representatives will be murdered. What then?

American history says that assassination works. The black liberation movement never recovered from the killing of Martin Luther King; the Kennedy killings changed a lot. And Trump's Freikorps are going to keep on killing, they won't stop till they have control of the legislature again or have rendered it ineffectual.

Hail the Great Khan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 05:55 PM

SO,

"the piece of lying, corrupt, racist crap" is just fine, but when facts are presented, they get removed.


Typical Leftist ( NOT LIBERAL) actions- when you cannot find flaw in the facts, remove the post so it looks like the Leftist "piece of lying, corrupt, racist crap" has the last word.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 06:05 PM

"the piece of lying, corrupt, racist crap" is just fine, but when facts are presented, they get removed.

No, Bruce- the piece of lying, corrupt, racist crap IS the fact that you choose to ignore along with the rest of the members of the fact-averse Trumpist Cult.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 06:14 PM

Wrong again. My post was factual, and supported- and now you don't need to admit you support rapists and traitors, since it was removed. Nice way to win your point- NOT.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 06:35 PM

Absolutely, Bruce - your post is supported by Q-Anon, Alex Jones, Infowars, Breitbart and the rest of the lying lunatic assholes that infest the U.S. body politic like a suppurating sore.

and thanks to the Mods for removing absolute bullshit - much appreciated)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 06:43 PM

Stay on the subject of the bombs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 07:22 PM

I see that SRS has decided who gets to express themselves. So long- hope you have fun belling the cat, when you won't even talk to people who do not agree with you.

What I have come to expect from the Non-Liberal Left here.
    Stick to the subject, Bruce. You were getting off into posts that had nothing to do with the bombs we're talking about. I deleted one post from you, one from Mossback, and one from Donuel. All were off-topic.
    -Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 07:38 PM

I could take my ball and go home, but its not my ball and I'm already home.

Professional spin artists continue to equate verbal admonishments in public to mail bombs. We can judge them for ourselves.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 07:44 PM

You raise an interesting point, Donuel-

But how does one distinguish between one who is hypnotized and one who is simply a self-important, ignorant arsehole?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 08:20 PM

*Insight*   

yes

THEY ARE BOTH   When we marginalize the inefficient and ineffective people of mediocre talent and bind them further with political correctness you end up with many people who become employable only under a Trump scale of loyalty, greed and defense contractors.

Anger and the big lie were the left - right combination punch by Hitler.
My Struggle and the art of the deal differ in that one was actually written by the author.


What we know:

The prudent thing is to not pre judge without facts. The Hate list of Trump are the 'criminal' Democrats in general and the very recent democratic statements made by each of the individuals targeted.


Also a fake Isis flag and silhouetted women as seen on truck mudflaps appear on the black powder pipe bombs.
I mentioned Biden earlier, who is now the newest recipient of the serial pipe bombs. The talking heads for Trump are in unison pre judging the bombs as a hoax.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 08:25 PM

If I were to pre judge ;^/ I suspect a trio of cretins from Kansas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Oct 18 - 09:41 PM

"From Washington to New York to Florida, where a congresswoman who is the former chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee has her office, the authorities intercepted a wave of crudely built devices that were contained in manila envelopes."
New York Times information piece.

"Trump appropriately denounced “acts or threats of political violence of any kind.” But it’s fair to ask: If a person who assaults a journalist is Trump’s “guy,” might not some unstable person think that, by sending a pipe bomb to a news organization, he, too, is being Trump’s guy?"
Washington Post opinion piece.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Iains
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 03:25 AM

So far all the bombs sent have been duds.
They have all been sent to Democrats or their staunch supporters.
The mid term elections are very close.

I suspect there is more to this than meets the eye.

Who benefits?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: DMcG
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 06:51 AM

So far all the bombs sent have been duds.
They have all been sent to Democrats or their staunch supporters.
The mid term elections are very close.

I suspect there is more to this than meets the eye.

Who benefits?


I hope you willing be willing to retract that if any go off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 06:55 AM

QUI Bene' ? The Iains argument Is the crux of Fox news reporting.

None of them went off so its "not us".
It's too amateurish so its not us
Its not a real bomb
It is NOT terrorist, it is terror-istic since no one died.

Could this be a red herring? yes
Does this ENERGIZE DEMOCRATS TO VOTE?
I do not see it, do you.




CORRECTION I have heard nothing further about Biden.




I heard the tone of voice when Trump said this was bad. It was a monotone drone of disinterest that was the same voice he used when he apologized for the Charlottesville Nazis.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 07:08 AM

Does this discourage Democrats to Vote?


How can you be sure either way?


D'Niro is the latest to have a package removed by bomb squad.


Qui bene' is a worthless argument


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Iains
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 07:26 AM

Cui bono may be a worthless argument in your view, but many others are asking the same question.

and the midterm wave according to some is but a ripple.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 07:30 AM

The truth is that nobody benefits and everybody loses because, irrespective of who is behind these attacks (and they are attacks, make no mistake), they undermine and damage the political process in what claims to be a democratic nation. Not only that, what happens in the US today happens elsewhere tomorrow, or the day after, or the day after that, so democracy and political process in other countries are certain to be so undermined.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 07:36 AM

Mossback made me think. Without final investigation the idea of Fake news and Fake bombs makes me believe this is a further attack on the media and not the individuals per se.

The enemy of the people is not journalism but the forces that seek to destroy journalism and journalists.
This is an attack on our democracy and on Trump critics

Call the attack ham-handed if you like but think for yourself, if you can. The Free Press protects everyone but dictators.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Iains
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 07:53 AM

I would agree that democracy suffers. Regardless of who may be responsible for the "suspicious Packages" the timing is such that it is a crude attempt to intimidate or manipulate the electorate for the midterm elections.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 08:09 AM

Robert De Nero has been sent one of Trump's exploding love-messages - thankfully, like most of the things associated with Trump, it didn't work
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 10:03 AM

With no trigger device and a vestigial timer the bomb says it is only meant to cause fear and chaos.

Sorry about jumping the gun by 12 hours about Biden.


Where is the device at NYT?? Their mailroom is an antiquated mess.
I saw it decades ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 10:32 AM

A cake of two-year-old Ye Sheng Gucha tea costs 260 yuan (about £18), while the 13-year-old tea sells for 1,800 yuan. "It'll double in price in two years,"


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 11:14 AM

With the deletions, my price of tea in China joke is moot.
I usually do not see the invisible moving hand


Too soon for jokes but if you did not get a bomb you are not an up and coming Democrat.

I did manage a laugh when FOX news reported that all the rock stars of the Republican Party came to Wisconsin tonight like Scott Walker.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 11:17 AM

Those parcels appear to be small enough they may go through the Post Office "Informed Delivery" system - I read in the NY Times that the postal authorities were searching for photos of more bomb parcels that way. As part of the sorting process all mail passes over a scanner that sorts and directs it. This process captures a photo of each piece, so someone at the post office had the bright idea of letting people know what was headed their way if they wish to sign up for the free service.

I use Informed Delivery - ever since learning about it a few weeks ago I check and see if there is anything at my post office box, saving me a trip if there is nothing of consequence there. So far I've used it by going to the site and clicking the Informed Delivery button and it eventually shows me each letter, but it's slow, takes several minutes to locate my few pieces of mail, so searching the whole system is probably a ponderous process. I'll switch to the email notification and it will be there, one more thing cluttering my email box, but easy to open and see. Perhaps the postal inspector headquarters has a few tools for examining size, font, envelope color, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 01:06 PM

Estimated 10 suspected Trump-bombs so far
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Bombs of Oct. sent to Barack, Hillary...
From: Mossback
Date: 25 Oct 18 - 01:50 PM

Republicans have always been fond of bombs.

I remember John McCain, that "Great American", cheerfully singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran" with a smile for the cameras.


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