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BS: Democrats - No message no messenger

Donuel 19 Oct 18 - 06:34 AM
frogprince 19 Oct 18 - 11:15 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 19 Oct 18 - 11:53 PM
meself 20 Oct 18 - 12:10 AM
beardedbruce 20 Oct 18 - 02:53 AM
Acorn4 20 Oct 18 - 04:47 AM
Donuel 20 Oct 18 - 06:11 AM
beardedbruce 20 Oct 18 - 07:57 AM
Donuel 20 Oct 18 - 08:54 AM
beardedbruce 20 Oct 18 - 09:04 AM
beardedbruce 20 Oct 18 - 09:44 AM
Jeri 20 Oct 18 - 09:59 AM
Donuel 20 Oct 18 - 11:49 AM
Mossback 20 Oct 18 - 12:23 PM
Donuel 20 Oct 18 - 07:04 PM
meself 20 Oct 18 - 07:09 PM
Donuel 20 Oct 18 - 07:11 PM
Donuel 21 Oct 18 - 08:25 AM
Mossback 21 Oct 18 - 01:42 PM
Donuel 21 Oct 18 - 02:10 PM
Donuel 21 Oct 18 - 02:19 PM
Donuel 22 Oct 18 - 04:52 PM
beardedbruce 22 Oct 18 - 05:02 PM
Donuel 22 Oct 18 - 07:17 PM
beardedbruce 22 Oct 18 - 07:23 PM
beardedbruce 22 Oct 18 - 07:40 PM
Stilly River Sage 23 Oct 18 - 05:05 PM
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Subject: BS: No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 18 - 06:34 AM

This just in:
Democrats have no focused message or catch phrase. No rhyming jingle. No one to tell the message. We need both a message and messenger.
Did we forget a message to repeat?

Meanwhile fear politics has jobs not mobs, caravans of criminals, honor Cavanaugh, MAGA, etc.
The lowest common denominator does matter in an election.

As simple PHS go maybe Democrats could try a phrase or two that are less than 32 words and are not confusing. I wish Tom Leher had a few modest examples. Do you?

Or is what Trump has done so heinous it is all the message Democrats need.


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Subject: RE: BS: No message no messenger
From: frogprince
Date: 19 Oct 18 - 11:15 PM

Does "Make America HUMANE Again" have enough resonance to be worthwhile ?


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Subject: RE: BS: No message no messenger
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 19 Oct 18 - 11:53 PM

DEMOCRATS!

All the worthlessness and incompetence you've come to love in Republicans!

(Just with less money and better manners.)


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Subject: RE: BS: No message no messenger
From: meself
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 12:10 AM

Less money and better manners would get my vote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 02:53 AM

Better check your facts. Dems are raising and spending more money than Reps, but still losing ground. Dare I mention it might be the lack of any message other than anti-Trump hate speach?


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Acorn4
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 04:47 AM

From the other side of the pond here, just an observation. Perhaps some attractive policies to win votes rather than just anti-Trump rhetoric the whole time?


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 06:11 AM

Democrats are going with health care.
Schumer says the power is in the streets -not the tweets.
There is more money in the house races for democrats but Shelly Edelman just gave 55 million to the RNC


"RELIGION BAD   DRUGS GOOD" ? ;^/

not everything Bill Mahre says will play in Peoria.
















Democrats


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 07:57 AM

Dems. 1.3 billion by candidates

Reps.    Just under 1 billion by candidates


Outside spending

Dems    242 million
Reps.    343 million


Totals estimated for the 2018 election

Dems 2.5 billion
Reps 2 billion



In case you actually care about the facts


(From phone- clicky later) opensecrets.org


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 08:54 AM

You had to add a dig at the end. Truth is, a lot of money is hidden.
I respect facts but I do not have a deep warm caring cuddly fact feeling.
Do not forget I know the real reason for your obstreperous attitude and I still find it reasonably selfish. Like everyone else.
Besides money is not the message , it is the messenger of the message.

I do not not want our degreed journalists roughed up, locked up or even merely tortured and dismembered. They are not the enemy of the people unless you have something to hide to avoid prosecution in a free society.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 09:04 AM

Do irk,

You know nothing of what I think or why I think it


I note a lot of hate filled low fact content posts under your name. What conclusions should I draw from that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 09:44 AM

Sorry, Donuel

Autocorrect got me.

I do not recall a recent post by you that did not contain a dig at Trump, regardless of topic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 09:59 AM

Please try to stick to the subject, not each other. Thank you.

I think the message should be "Make America America Again"
Trump and his band of sycophants are dismantling the country and turning it into something exceedingly evil. I want it back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 11:49 AM

No message no messenger: My only point is an offense is better in the short run than always playing defense.


Our deficit has gone up to 17% to pay for the tax cut for the wealthy.
SS and Medicare go up a max of 4% per year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Mossback
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 12:23 PM

Dems are raising and spending more money than Reps

Does money in politics bother you, BB?

Then what you need to work on is overturning Buckley v. Valeo, First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, and Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the last particularly egregious, promulgated by right-wing, activist judges - of partisan Republican leanings & morals(sic)..

Corporations are not people, and money is not speech.

Unless you're a far right-wing fanatic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 07:04 PM

Bill maybe 2% of the country knows what you know and then only .5% cares

But the Citizens United (right wing united) battles are 100% critical.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: meself
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 07:09 PM

The comedy writes itself. Trump today, to his mob: "The Democrats want to impose socialism! They want to take away your health-care!" Challenge: count the layers of irony.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 18 - 07:11 PM

Today Trump re entered the nuclear arms race.

Cohen warns American families against Trump today.

Saudi Arabia claims that Kashoggi tried to sell loose cigarettes in the embassy and was punched, wrestled to the ground and put in an accidental fatal choke hold.


Can you spot the one story that is not true?


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Oct 18 - 08:25 AM

There are things Democrats are afraid to bring up like the wage increase at the bottom of the pay scale. They woukd rather focus on rich tax cuts. They could instead recognize the good and strive to work toward growing that good even if it happened under Trump.
Heaven knows the progress under Democrats has been claimed by the right.

If we are honest the most corrupt ruling family is not the Trumps, it is the Saudies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Mossback
Date: 21 Oct 18 - 01:42 PM

that good even if it happened under Trump.

And that good perpetrated by Trump/Trumpists/Trumpism/Trump-Cultists is or are .............................???


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Oct 18 - 02:10 PM

You can fill in the blank yourself_______. He has helped:
An increase in the minimum wage, Daddy daughter incest normalization, Historical Rewrite Society, Stable Genius Foundation, Tiki Torch Inc.
Privatizing: State Dept., Post Office (tba), Justice, Treasury, National Security, EPA, Swamp/wetland eradication, American Psychological Association...
If an issue can't be monatized it is ignored by downsizing


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Oct 18 - 02:19 PM

Oh I forgot how much he has helped women
with pay offs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 18 - 04:52 PM

On a local level people know the issues they want. The National message however should be one of hope and unity and not the rage that Bruce objected to.
:^)


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 18 - 05:02 PM

Should be, but is not, at least in Maryland.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 18 - 07:17 PM

Maryland - land of lynchings.
Trump approval rating is 47%


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 18 - 07:23 PM

And the Dems outnumber Reps by 2 to 1...

So how many Dems are you saying approve of Trump???


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 18 - 07:40 PM

Maryland political registration:

Party       Number of Voters       Percentage

Democratic 2,059,544             54.9%
Republican 1,020,438             26.0%
Unaffiliated 691,583             17.6%
Libertarian    20,377               0.5%
Green          9,313               0.2%
Other          31,975               0.8%

Total       3,928,689             100%

So, if EVERYONE else supports Trump, that means that at least 39,131 Dems in MD support Trump as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Oct 18 - 05:05 PM

Getting a handle on all of the spew that comes out of Trump is a challenge - listening to what he says in order to craft a response is torturous.


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