Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,Jiggers Date: 17 Apr 21 - 03:30 AM Thanks, I checked it out briefly before but didn't scroll down the playlist to see that it turned into folk selection. Will be listening in future. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: FreddyHeadey Date: 16 Apr 21 - 01:21 PM jiggers Genevieve Tudor does the final hour of Sunday's Evenings on BBC Radio Shropshire* https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0876hdh/episodes/player mentioned a few posts ago actually,,, ;) *unless there is some 'special' programme on. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,jiggers Date: 15 Apr 21 - 05:37 AM thanks for alerting me to folk club, Felipa, I will give it a go soon. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Felipa Date: 14 Apr 21 - 08:48 AM Jiggers, "Folk Club" is still on Radio Ulster. It's a long while since Colm Sands presented the programme. The current presenter is Lynette Fay. Fridays 22.30 -23.55. "Folk Club" is preceded by a traditional music programme presented in Irish Gaelic, "Blas Ceoil2, which starts at 21.30 and is presented by Caoimhe Ní Chathail. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: DaveRo Date: 14 Apr 21 - 07:52 AM GUEST,jiggers wrote: The Tim Walker programme was fine, lots of variety, and I have some artists to look up on the internet today as a result.Jon Wilks was new to me: I particularly liked The Pretty Girls of Brummagem. And it was worth the whole 4 hrs just to hear KBK sing The Dancing Taylor accompanying himself on bass concertina! And having typed that I've just found an article in which one inverviews the other: https://jonwilks.online/cohen-braithwaite-kilcoyne |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 14 Apr 21 - 06:39 AM Mad Tom of Bedlam Dave Moran writes "Nic [Jones] and I and mandolin/guitar player Nigel Paterson made up the Halliard. We were looking to develop some new music and we took the advice of song-writer Leslie Shepard. We decided to add tunes to Broadsides that we discovered, uncovered or collected – we checked out the Harkness Collection at Preston and the collections in Manchester etc. We also used Ashton's Street Ballads and Victorian Street Ballads ( Henderson) and on a couple of occasions we dipped into Thomas D'Urfey's Pills to Purge Melancholy - that is where we found Mad Maudlin (Tom of Bedlam or the Boys of Bedlam). Nic and I wrote all the tunes together usually sitting in the front of the Mini and singing and working out tunes as we drove – as the mandolin was the smallest instrument and Nigel was in the back, he always played the tunes. 'Jones and Moran' wrote a heap of songs like this including Lancashire Lads, Going for a Soldier Jenny, Miles Weatherhill, Calico printers Clerk etc. We wrote the tunes to fit the words and sometimes added or altered words, as in The Workhouse Boy. So Nic and I wrote the tune to D'Urfeys words of Mad Maudlin – audiences were confused and stunned – it was very surreal... We did a booking in the Midlands and an unaccompanied foursome called the Farriers loved the song and asked if they could sing it unaccompanied. We said sure – they were very good a bit like the Young Tradition. I believe that is how it got into the mainstream. We may well have recorded it [for a second Saga LP called Heroes & Villains] but there were royalty issues and now sadly the tape is lost. There were some good songs on it. I actually have Nigel's written top line music and chords over the top, and words, to many of our songs because we were going to put a songbook out to back up that LP. We finally put [some] out with Jon Raven but we were too busy touring I guess. Included is the music to Mad Maudlin. About a year ago when the fuss about Nic began to resurface and Mike Raven put out the Halliard Double with the Ravens & BC3, I looked up an article in Dirty Linen on the internet and some American had tracked the song and said that he had recorded it and then discovered that Nic and I wrote the music from an acknowledgement in a Steeleye Span Songbook." |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,jiggers Date: 14 Apr 21 - 06:13 AM I listened to the Tim Walker show last night. I have seen my favourite shows disappear over the last decade. Mark Radcliffe was not my cup of tea so Radio 2 folk show gone for me. Genevieve Tudor Sunday Folk - gone - I liked that one so much I appeared as a guest to play some of my favourite cd tracks and talk about them. Colum Sands Folk Club on Radio Ulster - gone. I have tried others but have not found anything worth sticking with. The Tim Walker programme was fine, lots of variety, and I have some artists to look up on the internet today as a result. I will listen again just so I keep hearing new stuff. I particularly liked The Trials of Cato's version of Bedlam Boys |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: DaveRo Date: 13 Apr 21 - 07:55 AM No sessions?If you're asking about Tim Walker's show, no. I don't know whether he used to do them. I think all BBC local stations have stopped doing sessions. They all - or the ones I've looked at - seem to be running a simplified schedule with these 4 hour evening shows. Genevieve Tudor seems to be hanging in there on Shropshire, having purloined the last hour of somebody's slot. She used to host sessions for local artists, which is what I think these local radio shows should do, not plugging the lastest releases - unless it is a local artist. I actually like her one-hour programme better than her previous 2hrs ;) And you get some You get some out-of-the-ordinary stuff with Genevieve - Clive Palmer's band last week. Lincolnshire giving Tim Walker 4 hours contrasts greatly with my local station, Kent, where Doug Welch has lost his measly one hour show. He hosted sessions, did whats-ons, and played something by those artists - however young and unknown except in Brighton. Unfortunately he seemed obliged to play frequent jingles and station announcements too, such that he mas always running out of time. I used to listen to folk shows on BBC Radio London, Beds Herts and Bucks (now 3 Counties Radio) and Oxford. None of them have such programmes now. It's a reverse North South divide! My idea for anybody hosting a local folk radio show: look at the 'Official' Folk Album Chart - and play none of it |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Bonzo3legs Date: 13 Apr 21 - 04:28 AM No sessions? |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: DaveRo Date: 13 Apr 21 - 04:22 AM GUEST,matt milton wrote: Last Sunday night's 'Tim Walker's Folk' show on BBC Radio Lincs was an epic 4 hours' long.I downloaded that and, over the past week, have listened to about 3½ hours of it so far. I'd not heard Tim Walker's show before and I quite enjoyed it. Usual BBC local radio folk show mix but less chat (which is surprising for a 4hr show), no jingles thank goodness, and more tunes than usual. And it got better as it went on and the tracks became less predictable. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: FreddyHeadey Date: 12 Apr 21 - 04:44 PM Outlook (World Service) - 40 min - available for over one year The break-up that cost me my voice "Shirley Collins grew up in a folk music-loving family in Sussex, England, during World War Two, and announced her intention to become a folk singer when she was still just a teenager. Her career would lead her to record music with her sister Dolly; to record folk songs in America with legendary song collector Alan Lomax, and to become a key figure in the 'folk revival' of the 1960s and 1970s. But the trauma of a painful break-up cost Shirley her singing voice - "sometimes I would open my mouth and nothing would come out", she remembers - and led to a heartbreaking decision: "I walked away from music for years. I felt I had no option." Shirley did all sorts of jobs to support her children, and avoided even listening to music sometimes - it made her too sad. Then one day, the musician David Tibet, a huge fan, got in touch and begged Shirley to try to sing again. Shirley tells Emily Webb the story of a voice lost and found again." Presenter: Emily Webb Producer: Laura Thomas https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09ddj9n |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,Jiggers Date: 12 Apr 21 - 10:01 AM The Untold - Shanty Fever , R4 Mon 12 Apr When sea shanties suddenly blew up on social media, a shanty band from Bristol found themselves heading for the big time. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000v1n8 |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 10 Apr 21 - 11:06 AM Open Country 3pm Thursday BBC Radio 4 15 April 2021 Songs of England; English Heritage manages some of our most important historic sites, such as Stonehenge and Hadrian's Wall. In this Open Country, folk singer and song collector Sam Lee explains how he has paired these sites with relevant or revealing folk songs from the British Isles. We meet Sam at Stonehenge, to hear him perform the song 'John Barleycorn'. From Salisbury we travel to Hadrian's Wall with The Brothers Gillespie and the borders song 'When Fortune Turns the Wheel'. At Whitby Abbey Fay Hield performs the tragic tale of 'The Whitby Lad' and at Ironbridge, the birthplace of industry, Abel Selaocoe sings about the impacts of the industrial revolution in 'The Four Loom Weaver'. 22 April 2021 Fisherwomen; The voices - though no mention of song - of the women who mend the nets, gut the fish and fix the lines of Britain's fishing fleets. "I started at seventeen as a v-boner. I was everywhere, on the barding, skinning, heading. My last job was in defrost. I was the only one woman in defrost." Dawn Walton This rarely heard community have been recorded by landscape photographer Craig Easton and include a trawler skipper called Sheila Hirsch with a gripping account of 'going over the wall' or into the sea. "I've been lucky," she says. "I've been over the wall three times, and each time I've been alright." |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 09 Apr 21 - 06:19 AM Ah! The March of time! Thanks Freddy! |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: FreddyHeadey Date: 08 Apr 21 - 05:45 PM ^^ To clarify as Henry's typing fingers are still in March ,,,, ;) BBC Folk Show Radio 2 9pm Wednesday 7 APRIL 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000tt37 Front Row BBC Radio 4 7.15pm Thursday 8 APRIL 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000twht Open Country BBC Radio 4 3pm Thursday 8 APRIL 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000twh9 + _______________________ Genevieve Tudor 4th April 2021 the final hour of Sunday's Evenings on BBC Radio Shropshire https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09bl4x4 |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,matt milton Date: 08 Apr 21 - 05:09 PM Last Sunday night's 'Tim Walker's Folk' show on BBC Radio Lincs was an epic 4 hours' long. Not sure if it normally is?! Anyway, lots to listen to on that while it's on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09bk210 |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 08 Apr 21 - 02:13 PM BBC Folk Show Radio 2 9pm Wednesday 7 March Folk legend Peggy Seeger talks about her new album, The First Farewell. Front Row BBC Radio 4 7.15pm Thursday 8 March Peggy Seeger on the pleasures of working with family on her new album; Liverpool pilots live arts events; Hafsa Zayyan and Francis Spufford on how faith affects their writing. Open Country BBC Radio 4 3pm Thursday 8 March Fiona Mackenzie on the history, music and landscape of the Isle of Canna in the Hebrides. Fiona Mackenzie and her husband, Donald, have lived on the island for six years. Donald is the harbourmaster and Fiona is the archivist for the priceless collection of Gaelic music, photographs and literature stored in Canna House. She's also an accomplished folk singer - the ideal guide for an Open Country visit to the island. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 07 Apr 21 - 04:08 PM BBC Folk Show 9pm Wednesday Radio 2 Today 7 March Folk legend Peggy Seeger talks about her new album, The First Farewell. 14 March Swedish duo First Aid Kit talk with Mark Radcliffe about their shared love of the late, great Leonard Cohen. 21 March Singer Sam Lee talks about his love for the nightingale, which has inspired his new book and a series of night-time performances. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 13 Mar 21 - 04:15 PM BBC2 TV 9:45pm 13 March 2021 Billie: In Search of Billie Holiday A profile of Billie Holiday from the research of Linda Lipnack Kuehl |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 13 Mar 21 - 10:51 AM BBC Radio 2 Folk Show 9pm Wednesday; 17 March St. Patrick's Day; Mark plays music from Ireland's talented young acts. 24 March Manchester-Irish Jason Manford sits in and introduces the folk music he loves. 31 March American Rhiannon Giddens and Italian Francesco Turrisi talk about their second album: They're Calling Me Home. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Felipa Date: 03 Mar 21 - 04:26 PM Karen's segment starting now, 21.25 EST |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Felipa Date: 03 Mar 21 - 04:22 PM I'm listening to BBC Radio 2 and Karen Mathiesson hasn't been on yet; will she be along later? |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 03 Mar 21 - 10:00 AM It should be classified under Climate Change! On August 21, 2007, the Northwest Passage became open to ships without the need of an icebreaker. According to the Norwegian Polar Institute, this was the first time the Passage has been clear since they began keeping records in 1972. And in 2014 the Nunavik became the first cargo ship to traverse the passage unescorted when it delivered nickel from the Canadian province of Quebec to China. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: DaveRo Date: 03 Mar 21 - 07:59 AM I see that The Terror is classified by the BBC as 'Drama > Horror & Supernatural' |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 03 Mar 21 - 07:18 AM BBC Radio 2 Folk Show 9pm Wednesday; March 3 Scots Gaelic singer Karen Matheson talks about her new solo album, Still Time. March 10 Songwriter and guitarist John Smith talks about his new album, The Fray. March 17 Mark celebrates St. Patrick's Day by playing music from Ireland's thriving scene of talented young acts. Lord Franklin; The first two episodes of 10-part first season of The Terror are on BBC2 TV from 9pm on Wednesday March 3. Faced with sub-zero conditions, limited resources, dwindling hope and fear of the unknown, the crews of HMS Erebus and HMS Terror are pushed to the brink – and no one is coming to save them. The fate of the real expedition, which set sail in 1845 and led to more than 120 crew members inexplicably disappearing, has warranted a great deal of speculation. After almost 175 years of searching, coincidentally, the ships were discovered by arctic research groups in 2014 and 2016. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 16 Feb 21 - 09:44 AM BBC Radio 2 Folk Show 9pm Wednesday Tomorrow; The best in folk and acoustic music from Britain and beyond! February 24; Kathryn Tickell hosts the show from her home in Northumberland. March 3; Scots Gaelic singer Karen Matheson talks about her new solo album, Still Time. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Steve Shaw Date: 15 Feb 21 - 08:18 PM Many thanks, Freddie. That works. It's getting a bit near bedtime so I'll listen in the morning when I can crank up the Bluetooth speakers. Cheers! |
Subject: Delia Murphy From: FreddyHeadey Date: 15 Feb 21 - 06:26 PM ^^ John Bowman on Delia Murphy : BROADCAST • 08:30 • 14TH FEB 2021 - RTE Radio 1 https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/11281139 |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Steve Shaw Date: 15 Feb 21 - 01:12 PM Ah, I'll see if I can listen to that. I remember my gran (who died in 1965) singing The Spinning Wheel and Three Lovely Lasses when I was a very little lad. What cherished memories! |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,jim bainbridge Date: 15 Feb 21 - 11:10 AM Not the BBC but John Bowman's weekly programme on RTE radio 1 at 8.30 yesterday Feb was an excellent 30 minute item about Delia Murphy |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 15 Feb 21 - 07:00 AM BBC Radio 4 Book of the Week Bessie Smith by Jackie Kay 9.45 Monday 22 February 2021 Episode 1 of 5 Scotland’s national poet Jackie Kay brings to life the tempestuous story of the greatest blues singer who ever lived. Orphaned by the age of nine, Bessie Smith sang on the street to support her siblings and was swept into travelling shows as a young woman. Facing extreme racial prejudice, she brawled under the influence of bathtub gin and had tumultuous love affairs with men and women. She also sold hundreds of thousands of records and became a genuine superstar. “The first time I saw Bessie Smith, it really was like finding a friend…” Mixing biography, fiction, music and memoir, the Makar remembers the electric thrill of identification when, as a young black girl growing up in Glasgow, she was first gifted the music of the Empress. Read by Jackie Kay with Adjoa Andoh |
Subject: Margaret Fay Shaw From: FreddyHeadey Date: 25 Jan 21 - 10:39 AM Margaret Fay Shaw BBC Radio 3 - Sunday Feature 24 Jan 2021 Available for over a year - 48 minutes Margaret Fay Shaw's Hebridean Odyssey "Margaret Fay Shaw gave up a privileged upbringing and classical music training in 1920s New York, to live in a remote, Gaelic-speaking community in the Outer Hebrides. Without any knowledge of Gaelic she used her classical training to notate and later record the first proper archive of traditional, unaccompanied song and folklore from the Western Isles. Later she married folklorist John Lorne Campbell. They settled in the Big House on the Isle of Canna and for decades they embarked on recording expeditions throughout the Western Isles. Fay Shaw died in 2004, aged 101 and her priceless archive of song sheets, recordings and photographs is stored on Canna along with her beloved Steinway piano, shipped out specially on a fishing boat from Glasgow. Fiona Mackenzie, one of Scotland's leading Gaelic singers, is curating and digitising this huge collection, owned by the National Trust for Scotland and says it is her dream job. Margaret Fay Shaw's life and work is her inspiration and obsession and she regularly gives talks, illustrated with archive recordings and her own live performance, to bring the story to wider audiences. Recorded on location, Fiona explores the songs and folklore which mean so much to her and which drew her muse from New York to the beautiful but storm-tossed Outer Hebrides. She says the songs of love, lament, work and exile have an enduring relevance. She describes the earliest recordings as “pinpricks of sound”, but says they echo a vanished way of life, “telling us who we are and where we came from”." |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: DaveRo Date: 23 Jan 21 - 03:00 AM Nitin Sawhney on Jeff Buckley |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,Anne Lister sans cookie Date: 22 Jan 21 - 05:25 PM Did you catch Nitin Sawhney (sp?) talking about Jeff Buckley in Great Lives? |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Tattie Bogle Date: 22 Jan 21 - 10:53 AM Dave Milligan He is primarily a jazz musician, as you can hear if you try out any of the tracks on his website here. (It may also explain some of Jim B's analysis!) Husband of harpist Corrina Hewat, and together they perform as Bachue. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 22 Jan 21 - 09:27 AM BBC Radio 4 14.15 Friday 22 Jan 2021 Islander A radio version of the award-winning a capella musical, with voiced sound effects. Performed and sung by Kirsty Findlay and Bethany Tennick. Winner of Musical Theatre Review's Best Musical Award – Edinburgh Fringe 2019 The two-hander female cast sing all the songs, while weaving, building and layering their voices to create all the sound effects into an expansive, ethereal soundscape for the ears and imagination. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST Date: 05 Jan 21 - 06:05 AM The word 'unique is often misused, although it might be argued that aspects of that bond WERE unique. He certainly had great sympathy for both communities. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,Guest Date: 05 Jan 21 - 03:44 AM How Paul Robeson found his political voice in the Welsh valleys |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,Guest Date: 05 Jan 21 - 03:27 AM "the unique bond he forged with the Scottish mining communities"? He had strong links with the Welsh mining communities, too, so not "unique" at all. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,RA Date: 05 Jan 21 - 02:59 AM BBC Radio Scotland: The Common Struggle of Paul Robeson Listen here Opera singer Andrea Baker examines the life of Paul Robeson and explores the unique bond he forged with the Scottish mining communities. Available for 28 days from today (5th January). |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: FreddyHeadey Date: 04 Jan 21 - 07:36 PM ^ BBC clip 'The Archers' Ryan Kelly (Jazzer) sings Auld Lang Syne.' https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p092t3xk skip to about 0:35 if you don't need to hear him talking about life in Ambridge. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Steve Shaw Date: 04 Jan 21 - 06:38 AM Yes, I third that. It was wonderful. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Jos Date: 04 Jan 21 - 06:16 AM I wish Jazzer would be given more chances to sing. I think that is only the third time I have heard him. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,jim bainbridge Date: 04 Jan 21 - 05:45 AM For unaccompanied singing, Jazzer McCreery did an excellent version of 'Auld Lang Syne' - it was repeated on 'Pick of the Week'- Stuart Msconie chose it & good for him. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,jim bainbridge Date: 01 Jan 21 - 07:42 AM I should have added IMHO Bonzo but I was making a valid point- I think you should do the same, rather than pointless abuse. Of course people like you think that such supergroups are what 'folk' (spits again) is about and that some people dislike unaccompnied singing, SO WHAT? I never said the song in question should be unaccompanied, but that any 'accompaniment' should be sympathetic to the song. Dave Milligan's was distracting and distracted from Karine Polwart's excellent singing. Maybe he's normally better than this, I speak only of what I heard the other day. I rest my case |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Bonzo3legs Date: 01 Jan 21 - 06:26 AM Absolute bollocks, songs unaccompanied are mostly very boring indeed. Thank goodness for the legacy of Fairport, Albion Band, Home Service & Steeleye Span. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,jim Bainbridge Date: 01 Jan 21 - 05:37 AM This only demonstrates how the commercial world has come to be the norm in 'folk' (he spits) today. This is a lovely, simple song, and when I read about it, I went to the trouble of looking it up on the player. If you MUST accompany it, such a song deserves a simple and tasteful treatment, and the piano is ideal for it. I make no comment on the 'star-studded' list provided by henryp and having never attended Celtic connections, I have never heard of Dave Milligan, but his tasteless and irrelevant accompaniment to this lovely song was syncopated, arhythmic and often discordant. Original, yes, if that's what you want, and Margaret Attwood, wonderful author though she is, is not a singer, nor do we know how much input she had to this- it bears all the hallmarks of BBC 2020. There seems to be a worldwide movement to complicate and change simple things in all contexts, and this was a perfect example. |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,henryp Date: 30 Dec 20 - 05:27 AM BBC Radio 4 "Today" 29 December 2020; Specially recorded for guest editor Margaret Atwood, The Parting Glass sung by Karine Polwart, piano by Dave Milligan. I enjoyed it! Dave Milligan "has played a key role in countless projects and performances at Celtic Connections since its inception, most recently as musical director of the festival’s star-studded 25th anniversary opening concert. Other performances include appearances with artists such as Larry Carlton, Mark Knopfler, The McCrary Sisters, Karine Polwart, Trilok Gurtu, Art Farmer, Carol Kidd and Camille O’Sullivan." |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: Steve Shaw Date: 29 Dec 20 - 06:13 PM I'm not that keen on this "playlister" challenge, but I do get inspired to contribute once every blue moon, as this morning. Before they started the playlist game they had a "spot the...(tune/venue/composer/etc.)" competition. Over the years I got "read out" about 35 times. You can also suggest something for their "slow moment" at about 11.30. I've only tried that the once, and I succeeded. My suggestion was the Lento from Beethoven's last quartet, Op 135 in F. I've told Mrs Steve that that will be the "going in" music at my cremation! :-) I absolutely love Sibelius, by the way. Keep trying, but don't suggest anything that's too long! |
Subject: RE: BBC Radio this week From: GUEST,Joe G Date: 29 Dec 20 - 05:56 PM I've had a mention on that feature of the programme, Steve, but they didn't play my suggestion which was Sibelius Nightride & Sunrise in response to a morning piece (can't remember what now!) |
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