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BS: what does BS stand for?

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GUEST,ossonflags 01 Aug 02 - 01:47 AM
GUEST,DeanMeister 31 Jul 02 - 03:22 PM
GUEST,DeanMeister 31 Jul 02 - 03:20 PM
Oaklet 31 Jul 02 - 03:11 PM
Noreen 31 Jul 02 - 06:38 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 30 Jul 02 - 08:01 PM
Oaklet 30 Jul 02 - 07:46 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 30 Jul 02 - 07:35 PM
Oaklet 30 Jul 02 - 07:23 PM
Catherine Jayne 30 Jul 02 - 04:11 PM
Doug Chadwick 30 Jul 02 - 02:50 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 30 Jul 02 - 01:37 PM
Noreen 30 Jul 02 - 11:42 AM
GUEST,Oakley 30 Jul 02 - 11:41 AM
ossonflags 30 Jul 02 - 11:12 AM
Steve Parkes 29 Jul 02 - 08:45 AM
GUEST,nobby 29 Jul 02 - 08:26 AM
Dorrie 28 Jul 02 - 06:42 PM
Doug Chadwick 28 Jul 02 - 07:16 AM
Ebbie 27 Jul 02 - 01:16 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 27 Jul 02 - 12:17 PM
GUEST,open mike 27 Jul 02 - 12:07 PM
bbelle 07 Oct 00 - 04:51 PM
Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) 07 Oct 00 - 03:09 PM
Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) 07 Oct 00 - 03:06 PM
catspaw49 07 Oct 00 - 01:09 AM
bbelle 07 Oct 00 - 01:05 AM
Ely 07 Oct 00 - 12:52 AM
Haruo 06 Oct 00 - 11:50 PM
bbelle 06 Oct 00 - 11:43 PM
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GUEST,Schmuck 06 Oct 00 - 11:24 PM
Sorcha 02 Mar 00 - 11:37 PM
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McGrath of Harlow 11 Dec 99 - 12:41 PM
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Áine 11 Dec 99 - 10:14 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: GUEST,ossonflags
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 01:47 AM

Doug,this is a belated yes i will shake hands with you and will be pleased to see you at any of the below,please come up and shake hands it is so more intimate than doing it from afar.

we will be at:

busking in Beverley ---saturday --10am onwards 3rd august

playing at Durty nellies -high street hull --same day 9.pm start

singaround/playeround sunday session-- nellies beverley sunday 2.00pm ish start

come along to any or all of these drink some bear and enjoy, you will not be dissapointed.


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: GUEST,DeanMeister
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 03:22 PM

Hey guys. This seems to have turned into a serious debate...!!?? Doug. Hope to meet you sometime. And if you ever meet Oakley, you will understand. This I can promise. Off to Goxhill on me bike to see whats going on. May check in later. Gonna do a scissorhands on beautiful nicky-the-fiddle's guitar. It may be the last time she lets me play it.


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: GUEST,DeanMeister
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 03:20 PM

Hey guys. This seems to have turned into a serious debate...!!?? Doug. Hope to meet you sometime. And if you ever meet Oakley, you will understand. This I can promise. Off to Goxhill on me bike to see whats going on. May check in later. Gonna do a scissorhands on beautiful nicky-the-fiddle's guitar. It may be the last time she lets me play it.


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Oaklet
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 03:11 PM

Being given spelling lessons by jOhn is something that I have been adjusting to all day. I've come here because all the other threads are having problems with endless discussions about wheelie bins. If Doug finds out, he'll go mad. Sireen, this is no place for laughter! So stop it at once. By the way, did you spot me in the photo bit? I'd like an honest opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Noreen
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 06:38 AM

I'll be pleased to, Doug- will you cross over to Hull for the ShantyFest? Sorry about the raucous laughter.

And John and Oaklet, it's a privilege. :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 08:01 PM

Oaklet-were is Doug? i am not walking far in this wether, 9it is to ot).john


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Oaklet
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 07:46 PM

Look John, I have been to the Sloop. And the sheds to calm and feed the cows, and have to work for an hour or two on the 'putor before I eventually sleep and have to get up at 5.15. Make sure you meet Doug. It's what this is all about. You drivel merchant, you.


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 07:35 PM

Oaklet- it's Melodeon ,privelidged and sanctimonious.Can't you spell? :-)
Doug-I might shake your hand as you are reasonably local.


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Oaklet
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 07:23 PM

Doug, will you let me apologise for acusing you of being a melodian player? It would be a privelage to shake your hand, and thanks for not taking umbridge against my sanctimoneous snot. Please invade any of the drivel threads and you will find it hard to leave. I promise. By the way, Doug, what the f****ng hell have you done to John? I know that it is cash-and-carry day for Mustafa tomorrow, but he is somehow changed. Posting here changes us all, but this is extraordinary. Salut! And I'm off to bed the Friesians after a night in the Sloop, Barton, UK (for the benefit of the Americans).


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 04:11 PM

Bacon Sandwich!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 02:50 PM

No, we are not back to the old argument. My beef on this occasion is not against the existence of BS threads, or even in their contents, but the fact that several threads were running at the same time with more or less the same people extending the same in-joke. It was Shatner all over again. As I said above, even good jokes can wear thin.

My other point was that information gets hidden by the BS. I opened these threads because I am local enough to know the places you are talking about. I've had a pint or two in the Sloop; I've joined in the session at the Nag's Head; I've even managed to save up enough money to pay the fine on the Humber Bridge and visit Hull. Having given up on the "Durty nellies" threads, I had hoped to get something out of the "South Ferriby" thread - who was doing what, where etc.. not just Punch the Horse, but also others in the area, - but within two postings it was clear that this had started on a low point and was spiralling steadily downwards.

I have, in the past, complained about the relevance of BS threads but when I saw the scale of the reaction to my comments, I quickly hollered UNCLE and left those who enjoy BS threads to themselves. I rarely contribute to BS threads, either to join in or to complain. But sometimes enough is enough. I wouldn't dream of trying to "police" anything. Posting to a thread just to moan about its existence is a sure way to send the subject off at a tangent and extend the thread to a 5-parter. The subject of this thread is BS, so all my comments were directly relevant, even if my examples were taken from other threads.

Yes, we are in a café and should be able to enjoy ourselves and talk about what we like without asking permission of others but filling lots of threads with the same old joke is like having a table in the café where people are laughing so loud that those who want a quiet cup of coffee would prefer to go somewhere else.


By the way Oakley, I wouldn't describe myself as "one hell of an anything player" and no sort of melodian player, so you must be mixing me up with someone else.


Oakley, Ossonflags, Noreen & John ........ will you shake hands with me ?


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 01:37 PM

...pretending to be relevant to music...
Doug, Punch the Horse are a very talented celtic folk band , if letting people know about there forthcoming gigs, is not relevant to music then please tell us what is!

...worthwhile information may be hidden amongst the dross..
As you have read the threads in question, you will no doubt be aware that the pertinent information, ie when & where they are playing is contained in the first message in each thread.
As one of the main perpetrators of the drivel, I sincerely hope you have not been frightened away, though as Noreen quite correctly states, there is stuff here much more "frightening" than a bit of lighthearted chat.
I would strongly urge you to go and see Punch the Horse, next time they are in your area, I am sure you would have a delightful evening, they are a friendly bunch.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 11:42 AM

...You are seduced into opening the thread...

So I seduced you as well, Doug Chadwick? Many apologies, the siren singing wasn't aimed in your direction...

Seriously though, if you don't like a thread, don't read it! You've obviously read all of the several threads that you cite, to justify your ire. They are indeed music related, but would only be relevant to local people anyway, which is clear from the titles. Musicians don't talk about music all the time, at least they don't in my experience :0)

And I'd far rather clog up the system, if that's what we're doing, with friendly, if inane, banter, than the numerous unpleasant political threads which are more likely to frighten away those with serious interests in music in my opinion.

Sorry Doug, I don't agree with you.

Noreen


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: GUEST,Oakley
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 11:41 AM

Doug, perhaps Ossonflags is right. Perhaps you should police the drivel threads from within, and try to keep those perpetrators of insider jokes and those responsible for drivel, firmly in line, by showing your displeasure in a drivel thread.

Frivolous, inane threads that very occasionally stray into humour are easy to spot: they sometimes have the word "Hull" in them or an errant 9, in honour of a friend.

Doug, you seemed to have missed the irony in Banjo-Flower's attempt to justify his mistake in hitting the submit button twice. But of course he should be compelled to post only when he has something of serious musical worth to submit. I will sort him out, when we are having a good laugh on Sunday evening at the Wooton session.

Enjoying music on both sides of the Humber, appears, shamefully to be a more lighthearted experience than in other places. Which is a great pity.


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: ossonflags
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 11:12 AM

We are back to the old old argument again are we?

I find it amazing that if you feel so strongly about this you dont post to any of the drivel pool sites. The reality of the situation is that the people who post to these sites are not irresponsible as you suggest,but talented deeply caring people,who are out there keeping music live and making sure the tradition is not lost.Some thing else we have not lost is our sense of humour.

This is also a chat line,you remember when people used to do that? You should lighten up a little,trust me,it really can be fun out there.


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 08:45 AM

Doug: full marks for your request, but I'm afraid experience shows it doesn't work! The more responsib;e among us can only continue to observe the recommendation and hope, however fruitlessly, that others do the same.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: GUEST,nobby
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 08:26 AM

BS is part of the American degrees. In the UK we have BSc, MSc and Phd. In America they have BS, (Bull Shit) MS, (More Shit) and Phd (piled high and deep).


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Dorrie
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 06:42 PM

i asked with once i never got a sensible answer


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Subject: RE: BS: what does BS stand for?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 07:16 AM

Then there is the type of bullshit that doesn't get the BS prefix because it starts out pretending to be relevant to music but then quickly descends into drivel. You are seduced into opening the thread and find yourself in the middle of insider jokes that are obviously hilarious to the participants but nonsense to those outside. Worse still, worthwhile information may be hidden among the dross, which means you either miss it or waste time searching for it.

Typical of this type of thread are:
punch the horse at durty nellies hull (UK)
Punch the Horse at Dirty Nellys (PART 2)
Punch The Horse at South Ferriby ( UK)


The PART 2 of the of the "Dirty Nellys" contained the gem "I'll get this thread up to 200 posts by hook or by crook "


These have now spawned the correctly labelled BS thread
jOhn from Hull, in Hull, on Hull 9Part3)

The "...Dirty Nellys PART 2" and " .....South Ferriby ......" threads are running alongside this BS thread but all are basically the same. Even good jokes can wear thin but clogging up the system with multiple threads containing the same inane comments gives Mudcat a bad name and is likely to frighten away those with serious interests in music.


The "Ways To Help Mudcat" thread had the advice:
......Start a music thread.........learn to post tunes........ and Answer music threads........

I would add: - don't corrupt music threads with BS


Doug C


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Subject: RE: BS: what does the b.s. stand for?
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Jul 02 - 01:16 PM

John in Hull, he asked politely- please answer the man! :)


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Subject: RE: BS: what does the b.s. stand for?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 27 Jul 02 - 12:17 PM

Bullshit.


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Subject: what does the b.s. stand for?
From: GUEST,open mike
Date: 27 Jul 02 - 12:07 PM

the obvious?
manure from a male bovine?
bovine manure?
b.m.?
Messages from multiple threads combined.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: What does BS stand for?
From: bbelle
Date: 07 Oct 00 - 04:51 PM

Oy! I vas in da local market and here's the schmuck talking to the putz about schtupping the shiksa up the way. I vas schvitzing, I tell you, schvitzing.

jackie mason (aka moonjen)


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Subject: RE: BS: What does BS stand for?
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 07 Oct 00 - 03:09 PM

Bodhrán Slicer, indeed.
Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: What does BS stand for?
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 07 Oct 00 - 03:06 PM

Ok, Spaw, What's a putz?

As far as BS, I always thought it meant bullshit, too. It could be something real repulsive, like Banjo Strings :)
At any rate (even 4.5 %), I think it's kind of apologizing in advance for starting a thread that strays for our otherwise serious nature ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: What does BS stand for?
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Oct 00 - 01:09 AM

Who cares.....He's a putz.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: What does BS stand for?
From: bbelle
Date: 07 Oct 00 - 01:05 AM

I'm Jewish ... I know what Schmuck means. Wonder if Guest does?


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Subject: RE: BS: What does BS stand for?
From: Ely
Date: 07 Oct 00 - 12:52 AM

I thought for the longest time it was bullsh*t, which just goes to show you my mind's in the gutter.


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Subject: RE: BS: What does BS stand for?
From: Haruo
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 11:50 PM

Maybe (s)he is trying to brag? While in English, as a Yiddish loan, "s(c)hmuck" has penile denotation and pejorative connotation, in Yiddish and German that is a derivative sense; the root meaning is "decoration, ornament", related to the verb in the German hymn title Schmücke dich, o liebe Seele, traditionally anglicized as "Deck thyself, my soul, with gladness".

Liland

PS: However, I suspect my conjecture goes beyond what the GUEST intended. It is a less than serious way to identify oneself.


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Subject: RE: BS: What does BS stand for?
From: bbelle
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 11:43 PM

If you were serious, you wouldn't be calling yourself a "schmuck."


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Subject: RE: BS: What does BS stand for?
From: Haruo
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 11:32 PM

Bachelor of Science (Baccalaureus Scientiae) ...

Oh, seriously... you mean here in the Mudcat Forum? I think it's theoretically "Breeze Shooting".

But I'm a recent arrival; maybe some old hand like Joe Offer can correct me.

Liland


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Subject: What does BS stand for?
From: GUEST,Schmuck
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 11:24 PM

Seriously....
Messages from multiple threads combined.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Mar 00 - 11:37 PM

So, what happened to your definition?, la Guest?


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Mar 00 - 11:29 PM

Deffinition of Terms


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: AnTirKitten
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 10:12 PM

*s* Thanks Caitrin :) Technically I took six years of piano back when the earth was young and can't remember any of it. Oh well, I still can remember how to read music...


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: Caitrin
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 09:12 PM

AnTirKitten, I know exactly how you feel. I sing alto, but I can't really play anything. (I know around 4 songs on guitar, for which all my guitarist friends laugh at me. They don't remember when they were learning to play.)


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 12:41 PM

That all depends. The most primitive bagpipes are basically hollowed out sheep, with a couple of pipes and suchlike stuck in at appropriate places. A bit whiffy I suspect.


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 11:12 AM

BUT as someone famous (I don't remember who) said, "At least there is no smell."

Spaw


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: AnTirKitten
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 10:39 AM

Heh. Why do bagpipers walk when they play? Like any sensible person would, they're trying to get away from all that noise...

Cat, who plays no instrument but does sing mezzosoprano


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 10:27 AM

some more at Bodhran jokes

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 10:24 AM

Instrument jokes

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: Áine
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 10:14 AM

Those are great, Kevin!!

Wasn't there a website dedicated to slagging on bodhran and bodhran players? Does anyone remember the URL?

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Dec 99 - 09:22 AM

bodhran slicer banjo smasher baby sitar


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: northfolk/al cholger
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:51 PM

I was right, it is brilliance sanctuary. Isn't a bodhran a prehistoric banjo?

BS is a self imposed signal to some, that we may not exactly be indulging in the deep discourse of the folk idiom. (did I say deep)


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: Caitrin
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:21 PM

Oops...player, that is. Profread everyting.


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: Caitrin
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:20 PM

You're quite right, Aine. The great thing about many instrument jokes is that you can alter them to fit any instrument.
Q: What did the guitar player get on his I.Q. test?
A: Drool.
Or...If you have a bagpiper, a bodhran player, and a guitarist in a room, and you have a gun with two bullets, whom do you shoot?
Shoot the guitar plaer twice.


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 08:15 PM

Melodion come in for the jokes too don't they?

eg "You're driving down the road and you see a Morris Dancer on one side, and a fella with a melodion on the the other. Who do you run down?" "The melodion player - business before pleasure."

The odd thing is I've never heard any jokes about guitar players - and yet that's about the only instrument that I've ever heard of being actually barred from sessions.

Naah, I don't mind gargoyle when s/he signs in,because you can skip it. But I get pissed off when s/he comes in anonymously, because then it might be someone else you'd want to read who's pushed the wrong button or something. But then maybe some of the anonymous prats aren't gg after all - "Every crime in Oklahoma was delivered to his name."


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: Áine
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 06:14 PM

Well, Bonnie, you see Rich has a severe inferiority complex (i.e. stupidbohdranplayer, etc.'). You should hear some of the terrible jokes that are made about bodhran players -- and I personally will 'come out of the closet' right here in front of everybody and admit that I'm one too!! So there -- sling away ye slingers of vile arrows!!

Oooohhh -- I feel so much better now that my 'secret' is out. I play harmonica and pennywhistle too -- and they tell jokes about those too. I think all this teasing is just that, Bonnie, teasing. My husband played the trombone in high school and the jokes he can repeat turn my ears red! So, there ya go -- if it gets too bad you can hit 'em on the head with your banjo case!!

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 05:58 PM

Rich, maybe you can tell me. Why is there so much 'banjo bashing?' People go out of their way, just to make a joke about the banjo. I never realized it was a great target for 'wise cracks'. It is such a 'happy' sounding instrument. Thank heavens most banjo owners possess a good nature to handle all the teasing.

BB


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Subject: RE: what does BS stand for?
From: stupidbodhranplayerthatdoesn'tknowanybetter
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 05:32 PM

Bonnie, the proper way to tune a banjo is with wire cutters. Slan agat, Rich


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