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Whitby Folk Week 2016

Mo the caller 12 Aug 16 - 05:12 AM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 11 Aug 16 - 09:04 PM
GUEST 11 Aug 16 - 10:47 AM
Jack Campin 11 Aug 16 - 07:52 AM
GUEST 11 Aug 16 - 06:06 AM
Raggytash 10 Aug 16 - 06:14 AM
GUEST,Joe Nicholson 10 Aug 16 - 05:56 AM
Raggytash 09 Aug 16 - 07:02 PM
JP2 09 Aug 16 - 01:50 PM
Mo the caller 09 Aug 16 - 12:46 PM
Raggytash 09 Aug 16 - 11:33 AM
Raggytash 09 Aug 16 - 11:28 AM
JP2 09 Aug 16 - 11:16 AM
GUEST,In good company 09 Aug 16 - 10:39 AM
Raggytash 09 Aug 16 - 06:46 AM
Raggytash 09 Aug 16 - 06:39 AM
Dennis the Elder 09 Aug 16 - 06:31 AM
Raggytash 09 Aug 16 - 05:47 AM
Raggytash 09 Aug 16 - 04:41 AM
Noreen 08 Aug 16 - 07:47 PM
Jack Campin 08 Aug 16 - 07:21 PM
GUEST,Guest LP 08 Aug 16 - 07:08 PM
Jack Campin 08 Aug 16 - 05:59 PM
GUEST,henryp 08 Aug 16 - 05:32 PM
Mo the caller 08 Aug 16 - 04:25 PM
Noreen 08 Aug 16 - 03:40 PM
GUEST,henryp 08 Aug 16 - 01:45 PM
Joe Nicholson 08 Aug 16 - 11:11 AM
Dennis the Elder 08 Aug 16 - 09:13 AM
Jack Campin 08 Aug 16 - 08:10 AM
Raggytash 08 Aug 16 - 07:48 AM
GUEST,henryp 08 Aug 16 - 07:28 AM
GUEST,David Nuttall, Wakefield 08 Aug 16 - 06:15 AM
GUEST,Katy 08 Aug 16 - 04:45 AM
Raggytash 08 Aug 16 - 03:53 AM
Raggytash 08 Aug 16 - 03:49 AM
GUEST,Katy from Burnley 07 Aug 16 - 07:01 AM
Tootler 06 Aug 16 - 03:24 PM
Jack Campin 06 Aug 16 - 08:17 AM
GUEST,henryp 06 Aug 16 - 05:48 AM
GUEST,henryp 06 Aug 16 - 05:44 AM
GUEST,henryp 06 Aug 16 - 05:42 AM
Raggytash 06 Aug 16 - 05:21 AM
Jack Campin 04 Aug 16 - 03:44 PM
Raggytash 04 Aug 16 - 03:36 PM
Raggytash 04 Aug 16 - 03:35 PM
Raggytash 04 Aug 16 - 10:28 AM
Jack Campin 04 Aug 16 - 10:19 AM
Raggytash 04 Aug 16 - 09:50 AM
Jack Campin 04 Aug 16 - 09:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Mo the caller
Date: 12 Aug 16 - 05:12 AM

The current debate expresses a wide range of views all looking forward to Whitby, so I'm hurt that you dismiss us as twaddle without saying what your views are.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 11 Aug 16 - 09:04 PM

I would at one time (maybe) have joined in the debate regarding the official and the fringe.

Now, having read through this thread, I realise I would be wasting my time, yet again, as happened many years ago when I still had an involvement with the festival. On that occasion I explained in detail the reasoning and the pricing for the three official campsites.

I was almost immediately told by some smart arse that I did not know what I was talking about.

I did not bother to reply.

Suffice it to say that the majority of the so called current debate is to a great extent utter twaddle.

I will equally not respond to any comments on this posting.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 16 - 10:47 AM

@ Jack Campin
Why should GUEST 11 Aug 16 - 06:06 AM be aware that the Euro session is a French music session rather than Polish or Greek or Spanish or Italian?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Aug 16 - 07:52 AM

That's what the Eurosession is.

Look upthread to my post of 08 Aug 16 - 05:59 PM.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 16 - 06:06 AM

Are there any French Sessions anywhere this year?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 10 Aug 16 - 06:14 AM

Hi Joe, There's nothing down in the programme for the Dolphin in Whitby. There's been a change of ownership this year which led to it being closed for a few weeks which may have had an impact.

That's not to say someone can't start one should they wish.


There's half a day at the bay as usual in Ye Dolphin which is to be recommended.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,Joe Nicholson
Date: 10 Aug 16 - 05:56 AM

Nik the Dolphin is ussually an official lunchtime singaround in the Dolphin


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 07:02 PM

Not disputing that John, I'm possibly more up to date that's all.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: JP2
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 01:50 PM

Only reporting what Rob said to me Nick.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Mo the caller
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 12:46 PM

Good grief, I've been to 10 Whitbys since we started again in 2006. (After a break of 15 years).
And certainly for several years from 2006 the sessions were interrupted by collectors. Not so many the last few years.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 11:33 AM

Weather ordered.



You did say you wanted Manchester weather didn't you?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 11:28 AM

No the Waiting Room will be open Saturday & Sunday but will not be open on the Monday (as per norm, and the Regatta)


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: JP2
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 11:16 AM

Despite the fact that the FILO is only fifty yards from my front door I don't bother either Nick.

I'm pretty sure that the Waiting Room said that they wouldn't be opening at all while the Regatta was in progress.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,In good company
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 10:39 AM

Hope you have arranged some good weather, Raggy, seeing as I am camping :-D

Cheers

Dave


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 06:46 AM

Don't know about the FILO haven't set foot in it for some time due in no small part to the SEVEN televisions in the main bar.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 06:39 AM

The back room of the Black Horse, the new bar on the station the Waiting Room, The Station, the Fleece to name but four.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 06:31 AM

What about FILO Nick?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 05:47 AM

Actually Jack the locals, some of whom don't appreciate folk music, do need somewhere to drink themselves so a few pubs without folkies is no bad thing.

When you think of the town centre pubs and clubs that do have music it doesn't leave the indigenous population with many to go at.

The following have the OFFICIAL festival
Endeavour
Con Club
Middle Earth
Rifle Club
Met Hotel
Football Club
Rugby Club
Star
Dolphin RHB
Fishermans Rowing Club
Friendship Rowing Club
The Following have the FRINGE
Fleece
Dolphin, Whitby
Black Horse
Board
Duke of York
Golden Lion
Ship
Pier
Golden Lion
Elsinore
Black Swan
Station
Granby
Little Angel
Waiting Room
Arncliffe Arms, Glaisdale (Sunday aft only)

There may be more that I haven't visited.

That only leaves the following pubs none of which are anything to write home about
George
Wellington
Beez (now has a new name)
Plough
Big Angel
Buck
Jolly Sailor
Wharf


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 09 Aug 16 - 04:41 AM

Hi Jack, The George is very much a "locals" pub and mainly the younger end at night. It is quite a popular pub throughout the year. One reason it may be fairly quiet during folk week is that many locals take that week off or have overspent at the weekends. Personally I rarely enter it's doors.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Noreen
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 07:47 PM

henryp, please stop being the only negative voice on a lovely thread about glorious Whitby.
Nobody has objected to contributing, in fact several here have mentioned "overpaying" by buying season tickets but mostly Fringing.
The joy of Whitby is having so much going on, official and unofficial, to pick and choose from.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 07:21 PM

There are less usable pubs in Whitby than there were (thanks to Sam Smiths and gastro-ization) and some have never tolerated live music. There are a lot but there could be more.

The George seems to prefer to spend Folk Week with virtually no customers rather than let the folkies in. How do they stay open?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,Guest LP
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 07:08 PM

I agree with Mo, unlike Sidmouth where official collectors go in to all the venues to collect money for the festival, in Whitby I have rarely seen a collecting tin, in fact I don't think I've ever seen one in ten years! I buy a season ticket every year as do my three friends I share accommodation with, but go to about three events. I love the Fringe and I appreciate that the Fringe would not exist without the festival. I believe there is a better Fringe festival at Whitby than in Sidmouth as Sidmouth is fast running out of pubs! At least that won't happen in Whitby!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 05:59 PM

Eurosessions, as per Katy's email:

Whitby Folk Week is rapidly approaching so here are this year's dates for the Eurosessions in Whitby Yacht Club.

MONDAY         22nd August 3 - 5pm
WEDNESDAY      24th August 3 - 5pm
THURSDAY       25th August 3 - 5pm
FRIDAY         26th August 3 - 5pm


You'll notice that there are no sessions on Saturday or Sunday, and this is because this year Folk Week coincides with Whitby Town Regatta (20th and 21st Aug). As a result the yacht club premises are in use for sailing-related events on these days. Then on Tuesday, the club is hosting an event for the Dutch boating visitors who regularly sail over at this time of year, and so the club once again is not available for the Eurosession on that day.

On Wednesday the 24th at 8pm in the yacht club STEWART HARDY (fiddle) and FRANK McLAUGHLIN (guitar) are performing a 60 minute set. Tickets are £7 which includes a £2 donation to the RNLI, and the tickets will be available at Whitby Yacht Club bar during Folk Week and at the door on the night. We're planning to have a session afterwards, so bring instruments if you're coming on that evening. (Stewart and Frank will also be at the Wednesday Eurosession in the afternoon).


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 05:32 PM

Noreen, if the Fringe requires more accommodation, it's unfortunate that - of all the weeks in the year - it should fall the same week as Folk Week.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Mo the caller
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 04:25 PM

I have noticed that some years (recently??) the collectors rattling tins in the 'official' pub sessions have not been as noticeable.

I do buy a season ticket. Really good value, and gives me flexibility - I can pop in to part of a concert then on to a workshop / session / dance. Others 'pay-as-they-go' and plan more carefully, to make sure they get full value from the hings they go to. No doubt others meet up in the same pub with the same crowd each year.
Room for all.

For me some of the fringe is an important part of the week. E.g. the Eurosessions, which I think I've heard are on but not over Regatta weekend (can't find the post/email though).


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Noreen
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 03:40 PM

Everything depends upon Folk Week.
If that should fail, then there wouldn't be a Fringe...


Why wouldn't there be, henryp? There might even be a bigger fringe if other people could access accommodation more easily without the main Folk Week taking it up...

Of course I don't want either to fail, and I don't see the point in you introducing a false dichotomy and stirring up ill-feeling. The fringe and Folk Week are inter-dependent and long may they both continue to thrive!


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 01:45 PM

Everything depends upon Folk Week.

If that should fail, then there wouldn't be a Fringe for the benefit of musicians or for the town of Whitby.

It's in everybody's interest to support the Folk Week. Is it so painful to put your hand in your pocket?


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 11:11 AM

Whitby is very much a participants festival with its unofficial fringe and numerous workshops, dancing etc. that I am inclined to think that concert goers are probably in the minority but it is a great gathering of people with similar tastes and long may it be so.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 09:13 AM

Perhaps a few, Jack, but certainly not "a lot"


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 08:10 AM

As far as Whitby's tourist business is concerned, the fringe has to be more important than the main festival, because there are more of them and they're out spending money instead of wasting time listening to concerts.

I get the impression the fringe has shrunk a bit in recent years. The way a pub landlord or shopkeeper would see it, that means the festival is letting them down.

A lot of Whitby business folk are not very nice people (hence the amount of UKIP shite they display in their windows) but you can see where they're coming from.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 07:48 AM

Conversely Henry they take nothing from the festival, if a group of people meet up in a pub and sing/play they then add to the festival.

I know it's not a response you want but it is one view.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 07:28 AM

It is obviously expensive to put on a week of musical events in Whitby. And a week-long ticket does offer wonderful value.

The festive atmosphere in Whitby comes from the Folk Week itself. But people who enjoy the street and fringe events can take advantage of the Folk Week without contributing towards any of the costs.

By contributing to the collections, they will help to ensure the viability of future occasions. A contribution greater than a handful of small change would be really appreciated.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,David Nuttall, Wakefield
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 06:15 AM

I very much enjoy sitting in the pub and making our own music at Whitby...and taking in the occasional concert too if I feel like it . It presents opportunities for meeting and greeting old friends from all over the country..and other parts of the world too . Many are only met up with when at Whitby each year in informal settings which allow music AND a renewal of friendships and a chat too. There should be room for all kinds of experiences there....from the workshops,sing arounds , watching the dancers and formal concerts to the casual get - together in the pubs....and endless conversations . It all depends on what one is looking for in such a diverse festival. There should be tolerance and room for all....long may it continue for it is part of the special appeal which is WHITBY !! For ME the music is important there.... but so are the PEOPLE. Enjoy !


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,Katy
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 04:45 AM

Well when you put it like that I suppose not,,,,,


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 03:53 AM

Katy, The fringe is as big as the festival,if not bigger. (I do know what you mean about the same old songs though)

It may be just an excuse for a week at the seaside, nowt wrong with that. :-)


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 08 Aug 16 - 03:49 AM

Less than two weeks to go.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,Katy from Burnley
Date: 07 Aug 16 - 07:01 AM

Can't get my head round those persons who run singers clubs in East Lancashire, drive over in a minibus to Whitby when the festival is on, sit in a pub that has nothing to do with the Festival, sing the same songs they sing at home, applaud each other, don't buy a ticket for any of the festival, drive back home again and reckon they've been to Whitby Folk Week. I know it's not a crime, but....well I don't know...


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Tootler
Date: 06 Aug 16 - 03:24 PM

I usually travel daily and try to get two or three days in. Mostly a trawl round the "official" sessions plus some workshops then end up at the Rifle Club for the evening.

I'm not sure what I'll do this year as I've damaged my knee (my GP thinks it's cruciate ligament) and I'm waiting the results of a MRI scan to see what's to be done. I suspect it will be limited and I'll probably end up settling in the Cons club in the day and over to the Rifle club in the evening to avoid too much walking. Saltburn is the weekend before so I'll see how I go on there.

Frustration, frustration.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Aug 16 - 08:17 AM

I have uploaded a PDF for a sheet of business cards advertising the flat key session to melodeon.net:

http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,19011.msg232971.html

http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19011.0;attach=19470

I hope that works for non-members.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 06 Aug 16 - 05:48 AM

Very nice pistolets at lunch time.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 06 Aug 16 - 05:44 AM

Though I usually aim for the Rifle Club.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 06 Aug 16 - 05:42 AM

I think I'd prefer Tracy Chapman at the Golden Lion.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 06 Aug 16 - 05:21 AM

There is a new bar in town situated on the train station. It's called the Waiting Room run by Rob & Sue Wildsmith. I'm sure it will appeal to many folkies. There are 5 real ales at any one time, well kept too. There is a selection of Ciders and Wines and a few soft drinks, no tea or coffee (it's a pub!)

There's no TV, no jukebox, no radio. Rob is keen to attract singers and accompanists but no too fond of diddly-diddly (his words)

The opening hours are a bit querky and he doesn't open on Mondays. He is making a very good fist of it and I'd happily recommend the place to any discerning drinker.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Jack Campin
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 03:44 PM

Great! I've just spoken to her and that's fine.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 03:36 PM

Should have said this is the landlady's number she is called Tracy Chapman


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 03:35 PM

Hi Jack,

As expected there was a young member of staff on who couldn't make any commitment, however the pub number which I expect you have is 01947 825395.

The bonus is, I hope, a mobile number which is 07717 694 850

All being well you will get some satisfaction from this.

Cheers

Nick


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 10:28 AM

Will do.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Jack Campin
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 10:19 AM

Thanks. You can tell them I'd like to use the back room from 1pm to 3pm on Tuesday 23rd August.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 09:50 AM

I'll see if I can drop in there and get the number this afternoon Jack. No promises. The staff in the afternoon may not be able to clarify the situation and I've never seen the landlord in there. Ever.


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Subject: RE: Whitby Folk Week 2016
From: Jack Campin
Date: 04 Aug 16 - 09:33 AM

Problem finalizing the flat-key session: the Golden Lion never answers the phone (using the number publicized on the web).

Anybody have a number that works? Or do they respond to messages sent through Facebook?

My phone number is 07895 860 060, they can use that if they don't want to make their own real phone number public.


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