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BS: Richard III

The Sandman 24 Mar 15 - 05:26 PM
GUEST 24 Mar 15 - 05:38 PM
GUEST 24 Mar 15 - 05:47 PM
GUEST,# 24 Mar 15 - 06:05 PM
Don Firth 24 Mar 15 - 06:07 PM
GUEST,Officer Bollix 25 Mar 15 - 06:32 AM
GUEST,leeneia 25 Mar 15 - 08:44 AM
Greg F. 25 Mar 15 - 08:49 AM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 25 Mar 15 - 09:10 AM
Steve Shaw 25 Mar 15 - 09:53 AM
Thompson 25 Mar 15 - 12:20 PM
The Sandman 25 Mar 15 - 12:34 PM
Thompson 25 Mar 15 - 01:20 PM
olddude 25 Mar 15 - 03:04 PM
GUEST 25 Mar 15 - 08:07 PM
GUEST,leeneia 25 Mar 15 - 11:15 PM
Sandra in Sydney 25 Mar 15 - 11:55 PM
Backwoodsman 26 Mar 15 - 02:22 AM
BobL 26 Mar 15 - 04:20 AM
Will Fly 26 Mar 15 - 04:25 AM
Thompson 26 Mar 15 - 04:55 AM
Greg F. 26 Mar 15 - 07:20 AM
GUEST,HuwG at work 26 Mar 15 - 09:03 AM
Big Al Whittle 26 Mar 15 - 09:07 AM
Nigel Parsons 26 Mar 15 - 09:25 AM
GUEST,leeneia 26 Mar 15 - 09:26 AM
GUEST 26 Mar 15 - 09:29 AM
Don Firth 26 Mar 15 - 12:11 PM
EBarnacle 26 Mar 15 - 11:46 PM
Backwoodsman 27 Mar 15 - 01:32 AM
GUEST 27 Mar 15 - 03:26 AM
OldNicKilby 27 Mar 15 - 05:41 AM
MGM·Lion 27 Mar 15 - 06:06 AM
Thompson 27 Mar 15 - 01:35 PM
Big Al Whittle 27 Mar 15 - 02:49 PM
Big Al Whittle 27 Mar 15 - 03:01 PM
Steve Shaw 27 Mar 15 - 06:00 PM
GUEST,leeneia 27 Mar 15 - 10:25 PM
Big Al Whittle 28 Mar 15 - 06:37 AM
Steve Shaw 28 Mar 15 - 06:51 AM
Acorn4 28 Mar 15 - 09:17 AM
BrendanB 28 Mar 15 - 09:22 AM
HuwG 28 Mar 15 - 01:41 PM
GUEST 28 Mar 15 - 02:58 PM
MGM·Lion 28 Mar 15 - 04:28 PM
Steve Shaw 28 Mar 15 - 04:40 PM
GUEST,leeneia 29 Mar 15 - 04:47 PM
Steve Shaw 29 Mar 15 - 07:22 PM
GUEST,Pauline Lerner 29 Mar 15 - 10:48 PM
GUEST,Andiliqueur 30 Mar 15 - 04:24 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 05:26 PM

LEICESTER had some very nice women.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 05:38 PM

ROYGBIV -> ROLGBIV ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 05:47 PM

"ROYGBIV -> ROLGBIV ?" ?????????????????????????????????


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,#
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 06:05 PM

ROYGBIV is a mnemonic to remember the order of colours of a rainbow. Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet. I would guess that the L stands for Leicester, but who knows?


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 06:07 PM

Trying to put the "dreary axiom" to bed, MGM, so we can get on with more sensible discussion--but it just won't lie down, apparently.

So--back to Dicky 3....

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,Officer Bollix
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 06:32 AM

Wise words on the matter from Charlie Brooker:

Why tug our forelocks to Richard III, a king who's such a diva that he needs two funerals?


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 08:44 AM

How does one pronounce 'Leicester'?

The funeral's tomorrow. Let us know if there's any good music.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 08:49 AM

Lester, methinks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 09:10 AM

"How does one pronounce 'Leicester'?

.. depends how much you've had to drink, and if you've just eaten a rancid kebab...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 09:53 AM

The full name of the town is "Leicester nil".


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Thompson
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 12:20 PM

Yeah, maybe he was totally innocent. How often have the heirs to a throne gone quietly missing without any inquiry? I can think of these two little boys, and poor Louis Capet, Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI's son.
I mean, imagine if the current bunch of English royals were wiped out except for little George. Would nobody raise an eyebrow if he then disappeared under questionable circumstances?


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 12:34 PM

what about all the little boys who disappeared off ted heaths yacht.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Thompson
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 01:20 PM

What about all the little boys and girls too who starved to death or were piked or bayoneted or driven over or crushed to death or burned on their mothers' backs in the firebombing of Tokyo or were orphaned or stolen (all those parents who taught the children to remember their name and the name of their village or suburb or town) or traded or enslaved, in thousands of years of dirty human history, yes GSS.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: olddude
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 03:04 PM

Geeze everyone has sins from the past no matter what country you live in. Besides it gives folks something to do after a brutal winter. Hell here we celebrate a ground hog day. It is a big rodent that suppose to predict spring. So why not celebrate a lost king for any reason but gets folks out and about


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 08:07 PM

How doth the starting lineups go?
'Tis as it was before, with Stan the first, Bill the second
and Richard the Third "


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 11:15 PM

Still waiting to learn how to pronounce 'Leicester.'


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 11:55 PM

English/Australian pronunciation is 'lester'


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 02:22 AM

It's 'Lester'.
Took my Lowden there for some TLC a couple of weeks ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: BobL
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 04:20 AM

Red, Orange, Lemon, Green...

Nah, it'll never catch on.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Will Fly
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 04:25 AM

Marry in Hastings - repent at Leicester.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Thompson
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 04:55 AM

leenia, say Leicester


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 07:20 AM

25 Mar 15 - 11:15 PM: Still waiting to learn how to pronounce 'Leicester.'

SEE: 25 Mar 15 - 08:49 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,HuwG at work
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 09:03 AM

I personally enjoyed the production of Shakespeare's "Richard the Third" sponsored by Yeomans' Army and Navy Stores:

"Now is the discount of our winter tents..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 09:07 AM

Derek Brimstone told me one time he was driving Tim Hardin home from a gig, and they passed Loughborough on the motorway.

Tim wakes up from a pissed up slumber and sees the the sign and says...My God! we're passing Luger Borugah!

which i think is a better pronunciation than the official one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 09:25 AM

Give him a velvet burial shroud. Then we can please those who want a nem mnemonic for the colours of the rainbow.
Richard Of York Gets/Got Buried In Velvet (or shift the burial to St Albans/Verulamium)


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 09:26 AM

Thanks, all. Now I know how to say "Leicester."


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 09:29 AM

"Hey buddy, can you gimme directions to Lie-chester Square"


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 12:11 PM

Gesundheit!!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: EBarnacle
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 11:46 PM

Richard da turd is now reinterred.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/englands-richard-iii-finally-gets-burial-fit-for-a-king/ar-AAa1dzb?ocid=U218DHP


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 01:32 AM

How can it be 'Lie-chester'? There's no 'h' after the 'c', and the 'e' following the 'c' makes the 'c' soft. So, it can't be 'Lie-chester', but it could conceivably be 'Lie-sester'.

But it's neither, it's 'Lester'. Get over it. 😄


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 03:26 AM

'Lie-chester'?

Yep, that's exactly how he pronounced it.

I did the decent friendly thing and gave our American visitor the correct directions.
Which was basically "you're close enough, just carry straight on a few more yards"


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: OldNicKilby
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 05:41 AM

For Heavens sake, you say Leicester like " Les- tur M,Duck" As one whose ancestors were illegal immigrants, we came over from France in boats and the Chief Immigration Officer was right stroppy ,his name was Harold, so one of the lads shot the bugger in the eye with an arrow. So you pronounce it "Les- tur " M' Duck. For the un-initiated "M'Duck " is Anglo Saxon for "My friend "


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 06:06 AM

Rich III was in fact Duke of Gloucester, wasn't he -- that's "Gloster", not "Glau-cess-ta".

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Some people can be very silly about pronunciations of names. I remember an American I knew at Cambridge who would always facetiously pronounce a S London suburb as "green" [like the colour] "witch" [like a hag on a broomstick], till I pointed out that they had pinched the name lock stock & barrel for the Village section of New York & seemed to have no difficulty saying it. He confessed he had never made the connection.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Thompson
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 01:35 PM

My favourite depiction of Richard III is by Richard Dreyfuss in ≤i>The Goodbye Girl, in which the actor has been told to camp it up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 02:49 PM

I wonder if our American friends knew that a Richard is cockney rhymming slang for a turd?

as in - I done this big richard!

You can imagine Dick Van Dyke singing abaht that in Mary Poppins - at least I can! But thats my vivid imagination running away with me yet again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 03:01 PM

Oh I done a great big Richard in the khasi Mary!
I done a Richard, then I had a wee!
Tiddly tiddly tum! then I wiped me bum!
Chim Chimminy chim chim cheree!


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 06:00 PM

Try these:

Launceston
Frome
Woolfardisworthy
Bicester
Rough Tor
Mousehole
Oswaldtwistle
Altrincham
Leigh
Alnwick
St Teath
Polzeath


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 10:25 PM

I give up, Steve. Tell me how to say them.
=========
Meanwhile, there has been a perhaps-inevitable development:

"The living relatives of Richard III, the last English king to perish in battle, are now faced with a bill of over £100,000 from Leicester City Council for a parking space the monarch occupied for well over five hundred years.

A spokesman for the council said: 'We don't care who you are; you can't avoid Hawkeye Parking Enforcement sensors. Given that Richard arrived at the site about half a millennium before we installed the system, we didn't clock him arriving, but we saw the whole exhumation thing. He's been down there for ages. We are fully within our rights to issue parking fines retrospectively, even to those with alleged spinal disability."
===========
It was in the Newsbiscuit, so it must be true.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Mar 15 - 06:37 AM

goes to the tune - its a jolly holiday with mary

Oh I done a great big Richard in the khasi Mary!
I done a Richard, then I had a wee!
Tiddly tiddly tum! then I wiped me bum!
Chim Chimminy chim chim cheree!


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 15 - 06:51 AM

Lanson
Froom
Woolzery
Bister
Rowter ("row" as in we had a nasty row when I got home drunk last night)
Mowzle
Ozzletwizzle
Oltringum
Lee
Annick
St Teth
Polzeth


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Acorn4
Date: 28 Mar 15 - 09:17 AM

"Dick the Shit"


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: BrendanB
Date: 28 Mar 15 - 09:22 AM

How about,
Cambois
Alnmouth
Sedbergh
Berwick


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: HuwG
Date: 28 Mar 15 - 01:41 PM

Comedian Bob Monkhouse once worried that in Mousehole (pronounced "Mowzle"), he would be introduced as "Bob Mucus".


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 15 - 02:58 PM

Thanks, Steve. I don't think there are many American names where people simply disregard consonants or even whole syllables like that.

We do have Blytheville, which rhymes with Bible. It's in Arkansas.
I helped build a power line there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Mar 15 - 04:28 PM

Arkansas? Ah-kin-saw...


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 15 - 04:40 PM

Norlins.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Mar 15 - 04:47 PM

Yes, MGM Lion, I forgot about Arkansas. Actually, it only skips one letter, the final s.

Steve Shaw: don't say Norlins unless your family has lived there a long time, perhaps without learning to read.    The rest of us say New Or-lens.

What do we know about the music played at Richard III's funeral?


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Mar 15 - 07:22 PM

Whaddya mean? I meant Norlins, a tiny village just outside Bude. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,Pauline Lerner
Date: 29 Mar 15 - 10:48 PM

My source of info for the following is The Guardian UK, a very up-to-date, thorough, and liberal newspaper. DNA analysis has uncovered a problem with Richard III's heritage. It was discovered by analysis of mitochondrial DNA, which is maternally inherited, as well as nuclear DNA, which comes from both parents and is the kind usually analyzed. At some point in history before Richard III, the paternal line was changed, but the maternal line was not. One of the kings was cuckolded. After that, none of the kings was descended from the king at the top of the original paternal line.

A very large sum of money was spent to move the royal casket from the parking lot to the church, have a big burial ceremony, and reinter Richard III. The newspaper gave some good reasons why too much money was spent. (1) England is now in a state of fiscal austerity. (2) Richard III was not a nice guy. He had two nephews who had better rights to be king than he did, so he had them locked in the Tower of London and then killed. (3) There is a controversy over which church he should be buried in.

I'm glad that in my country we have no kings, just dirty politicians.


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Subject: RE: BS: Richard III
From: GUEST,Andiliqueur
Date: 30 Mar 15 - 04:24 AM

I would never base your knowledge of history on the UK Guardian! The Ceremony was comparitively simple by London Standards and hopefully will be justified by benefits to Leicester's economy. It has not been and probably cannot be proven that he killed his nephews. His name is woven into the history of Leicester by street mames,schools and pubs etc. We (I was born here) have always kept him and it is right that he should be reinterred in a Holy Place within a few yards of the site in which he has lain for over 500 years.


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