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BS: Chick/dude magnets

Marion 24 Nov 99 - 01:33 PM
Midchuck 24 Nov 99 - 01:43 PM
JedMarum 24 Nov 99 - 01:48 PM
Fortunato 24 Nov 99 - 02:11 PM
Llanfair 24 Nov 99 - 02:27 PM
Little Neophyte 24 Nov 99 - 02:27 PM
willie-o 24 Nov 99 - 02:35 PM
Bruce O. 24 Nov 99 - 02:45 PM
KathWestra 24 Nov 99 - 03:03 PM
Bruce O. 24 Nov 99 - 03:38 PM
Bruce O. 24 Nov 99 - 03:58 PM
Bob Landry 24 Nov 99 - 04:23 PM
Mbo 24 Nov 99 - 04:42 PM
sophocleese 24 Nov 99 - 05:20 PM
lamarca 24 Nov 99 - 05:44 PM
24 Nov 99 - 06:15 PM
24 Nov 99 - 06:59 PM
margaret 24 Nov 99 - 07:05 PM
MMario 24 Nov 99 - 10:35 PM
DonMeixner 24 Nov 99 - 11:17 PM
JedMarum 24 Nov 99 - 11:24 PM
DonMeixner 24 Nov 99 - 11:36 PM
JedMarum 24 Nov 99 - 11:54 PM
Lady McMoo 25 Nov 99 - 03:37 AM
Liz the Squeak 25 Nov 99 - 04:07 AM
Jeri 25 Nov 99 - 09:12 AM
Liz the Squeak 25 Nov 99 - 09:46 AM
WyoWoman 25 Nov 99 - 12:37 PM
Marion 25 Nov 99 - 01:54 PM
catspaw49 25 Nov 99 - 02:07 PM
Bruce O. 25 Nov 99 - 02:13 PM
Steve Latimer 25 Nov 99 - 03:36 PM
WyoWoman 25 Nov 99 - 03:48 PM
Liz the Squeak 25 Nov 99 - 04:54 PM
WyoWoman 25 Nov 99 - 05:38 PM
anonNO1 25 Nov 99 - 08:10 PM
DonMeixner 25 Nov 99 - 08:18 PM
catspaw49 25 Nov 99 - 08:20 PM
Jeri 25 Nov 99 - 09:20 PM
catspaw49 25 Nov 99 - 09:41 PM
Caitrin 25 Nov 99 - 10:02 PM
anonNO1 25 Nov 99 - 10:37 PM
WyoWoman 25 Nov 99 - 10:40 PM
catspaw49 25 Nov 99 - 10:54 PM
sophocleese 25 Nov 99 - 10:56 PM
Barry Finn 25 Nov 99 - 10:59 PM
WyoWoman 25 Nov 99 - 11:05 PM
Jeri 25 Nov 99 - 11:14 PM
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Subject: Chick/dude magnets
From: Marion
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 01:33 PM

Ok, it seems like every band I go to see, I fall in love with the fiddler if he's male.

Any other women/gay men notice this phenomenon?

More importantly, is there an instrument I can take up that has the same effect on men? Especially fiddle-playing men?

Thank you for your thoughts,

Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Midchuck
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 01:43 PM

Whatever you do, stay away from the upright bass. Guys see themselves being made to carry it, and that scares us off. (My wife took up the big bass after many years of marriage, so I had no choice except divorce, and I was afraid no one else would have me....)

If you want to catch a fiddler or mandolinist, the guitar is good, 'cause the guy will consider it convenient to have a rhythm player available whenever he needs it. That works with banjo players, too, but why in heaven's name....?


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: JedMarum
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 01:48 PM

Marion - I can't say about male fiddle players, but I can tell you that as soon as I heard Alsion Kraus sing and play I said, "I don't care what this girl looks like, I' in love!"

Perhaps this is the same phenomenon!


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Fortunato
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 02:11 PM

Marion,

I could go for a girl who played: Button Accordian or Slide Guitar Regards Fortunato


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Llanfair
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 02:27 PM

In my experience, the instrument that attracts a man most is the cooker. Hwyl, Bron.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 02:27 PM

Marion, how about the Service Bell?


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: willie-o
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 02:35 PM

I wasn't going to get into this, but...just this second CBC Radio One aired a phone call from "Debbie from Winnipeg" who described herself as a cabaret performer...usually a topless accordion player. (She was discussing workplace problems created by lactation. I'm not making this up...swear to God. Someone else back me up on this!)

Weeeeeeyllllllll...she'd have to be a _good_ accordion player, but that would definitely work for me!

(willie-o is Bill C. who has decided to tradify his moniker)


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Bruce O.
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 02:45 PM

Keep it platonic Marion. Fiddlers have a reputation of being rather feeble warriors in the bedchamber. See ZN1521 and ZN2606 in the broadside ballad index at www.erols.com/olsonw for songs on the subject of inadequate fiddlers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: KathWestra
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 03:03 PM

Hmmm....
There's also ample folksong evidence for men whose "fiddle" works like a charm. As in these verses from "Wild Rippling Waters," collected by one of the Lomaxes in Texas.

Well they hadn't been there but an hour or so,
When out of his satchel come a fiddle and bow,
And the tune that he played seemed to make the woods ring,
Hark, Hark, said the lady, hear the nightingales sing!

And now, my pretty lady, it's time to give o'er
Oh no, handsome cowboy, play just one tune more,
For I'd rather hear your fiddle, just the touch of one string,
Than see the waters glide and head the nightingales sing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Bruce O.
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 03:38 PM

Kathy, that's a late perversion, originally he was a soldier who just fiddled around a lot with maids. The original 17th century version, "The Nightingale's Song (Soldier's Fair Music and Maid's Recreation") is in the Scarce Songs 1 file on my website. Click


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Bruce O.
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 03:58 PM

We seem to have lost a Scottish song of the 17th century with content similar to "The Nightingale's Song". The tune, alone, of "Iockey plaise on Ienneis fidle" is in the Skene MS (one of the titles expurgated by Wm. Dauney in his list of the manuscript's contents in 'Ancient Scottish Melodies')


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Bob Landry
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 04:23 PM

Men with fiddles haven't done much for me in terms of magnetism. But then, there's Lucy McNeil of the Barra McNeils, a traditional Cape Breton group. Be it the fiddle, the bodrahn, the celtic harp or her voice, I like what I hear and see. I spoke to Lucy and her brothers briefly about a month ago after their recent concert here, but I had to limit my conversation to music-related topics; my real-life significant other was standing by my side.

Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Mbo
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 04:42 PM

It happens! I'm currently in love with Kate Rusby and Natalie MacMaster!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: sophocleese
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 05:20 PM

Presence, Presence, Presence! Okay and ability. Which is why I am currently infatuated with one Harvey Keitel. Damned if I can think of anything I can do that would attract him to me though. The minor matter of being married with kids not really being important right? "Players only love you when they're playing."


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: lamarca
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 05:44 PM

Gee, with me it was always guitar and bouzouki players - flashing fingers and all those strings. Pierre Bensusan and (the late) Michael Hedges, with their fancy riffs and long curly hair, for instance. It still is - my husband is a WONDERFUL guitar player (although a bit deficient in the long, curly hair department...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From:
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 06:15 PM

A singer and a guitar - since a good voice is very rare - BTW Alison Kraus is a croaker IMHO - it used to be a treat to hear a good singer -hence folk clubs- nowadays any old croaker will do.

Fiddles - they come and they GO - tg. The players are arrogant bigheaded and rude, they abuse other musicians with their tasteless humor, the insult my ears with squaky out of tune sounds and screech like some insane teenage female ape in search of a mate. Enough already.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
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Date: 24 Nov 99 - 06:59 PM

Blank above wasn't me. And I don't agree. They can compete with voice on a song if it's not worked out right. They have been the premier instrument for country dances since about 1700.

gargoyle's little helper elf.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: margaret
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 07:05 PM

On the 1976 Ashley Hutchings et al album of morris dance music, "Son of Morris On," there's a charming little dialogue recited by Shirley Collins and John Tams called "Bring Your Fiddle" which is perhaps related to the tune that Bruce O. mentions (it starts off with 'jockie to his lady" or something, but lots of my music is being held hostage on old vinyl and I am without a turntable just at present and can't quite remember the words). The liner note says it's taken from a printed broadsheet, but I don't know if the tune they're playing behind the recitation is linked to the broadside or not. Don't know if the album's still available, but it's really enjoyable, worth seeking out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: MMario
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 10:35 PM

If you've seen "1776" they would have you believe that Mrs. Thomas Jefferson liked a man with a fiddle.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: DonMeixner
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 11:17 PM

I think I should prefer the love of a woman who has a way with words. A singer who knows the ground between Alto and Soprano with an ear for harmony. Should she also be a musician I'd like her to play either guitar and or Banjo, clawhammer style. But I'd also like a women who fished and sailed and knew water and boats. And have a collection of late 50's and early 60's comic books. Should she have all those attributes and was willimg to share them with me. I'd be willing to share my fascination with quilts, antiques, mystery novels, and wine. But really should it come to the wire, the love of me and the willingness to try the music is enough and I'd share the rest anyway.

BTW I agree with Anon, Allison Krause reminds me of the entire Lullaby League, shrilling away, all at once.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: JedMarum
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 11:24 PM

Lullaby League? croaker IMHO? Are these good? Should Alison be honored?


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: DonMeixner
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 11:36 PM

Liam,

She sounds like a munchkin onher best day out.. She should stick to the fiddle. There is where she excels.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: JedMarum
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 11:54 PM

hmmm, a loveable munchkin! I guess one man's meat ... etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 03:37 AM

Mrs McMoo has a strong penchant for Uillean pipers.

Unfortunately we don't see too many of them in these parts...!

Just joking of course...! Ouch!!!! (...too late, hit from behind!)

mcmoo


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 04:07 AM

Ah, for a good bum (sorry, buns/butt/keister/arse/whatever) on a guy, I go for hairy morris dancers.....

Actually, I think I just go for hairy..... Which is why I fell in love with Sean Connery, when I was 11, after seeing him in 'Thunderball', that hairy chest, those gorgeous brown eyes, that wonderful........

sorry, need a lie down.........

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 09:12 AM

For me it's the voice, singing and/or speaking. A pleasant rear view doesn't hurt, either.

Don, wanna buy an antique quilt cover? Maybe I actually do have something to add to the auction!


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 09:46 AM

Yeah, that way there's something nice to look at as you chuck 'em out!!!

What is this auction then? Anyone going to let me in on the secret??

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: WyoWoman
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 12:37 PM

Furry, I like. Funny is better. Furry and funny, a winning combination. As far as a particular instrument or style, that isn't as important as a deep feeling for the music, and not such a deep feeling for how wonderful he believes himself to be. Confidence is nice, arrogance is icky and unattractive.

The problem with musicians who've been gigging for years is that they're often so accustomed to having members of the opposite sex flop eagerly all over them they've sometimes seen and done everything -- or seem to have. I hate feeling like "the next one," just one more willing female on a long, long list. Know what I mean? So someone who isn't too world-weary is a magnet to me.

Healthy is attractive, too. The older we get the less attractive those bad-boy habits get: smoking, drinking to excess, promiscuity. When we were in our 20s, they had a certain anti-hero glamour. Now, I can just imagine the respirator just over the hill...

Playful, smart, kind-hearted and passionate about all different kinds of music pull me in on the tractor beam...the particular instrument or musical form isn't important (Ok, ok. It'd be a huge stretch for me to be attracted to a rap singer because, a.) they're children and b.) the music is usually so misogynistic and unmusical.)

WyoWoman


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Marion
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 01:54 PM

Bruce and Kathwestra, I'm very impressed. So is there really no such thing as a BS thread?

Anonymous poster number one, your wife ran away with a fiddler, didn't she?

Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 02:07 PM

I can see I'm probably not going to score by blowing up a possum's ass am I?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Bruce O.
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 02:13 PM

I shouldn't have said 'perversion' regarding "The Wide Rippling Waters" above, and I apologize. That just the results of oral tradition at work, and long may it continue to work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 03:36 PM

Catspaw,

Here I was thinking that the only musical instruments I've played are a five string banjo and tuba, and have often felt I'll never score with them on my resume, but having seen your special talent, I feel I have a chance.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: WyoWoman
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 03:48 PM

That's the joy of Catspaw. He makes us all feel as though we might have a chance...

ww


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 04:54 PM

Cat, if I could be any animal, I think I'd like to be a possum..... if only to see what the fuss is about, not to be squished across three lanes of the highway...!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: WyoWoman
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 05:38 PM

Oh, god. Now I have to trace this thread. I simply MUST hear what 'Spaw replies to this...


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: anonNO1
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 08:10 PM

The fact is I did loose my gorgeous redhead gal over a fiddle but not because of a fiddler, well sort of. What happened was this, I used play a tune called the 'Sweep's Hornpipe' on fiddle (muted) but never in public, and unknown to me I had an audience. Since I played at certain times of day lots of folk soon knew where to go to listen to ummmm 'different' music. Now I am not that good and besides the above played but a few Polkas and Hornpipes, but the fiddle was (more later) a genuine Friederich Anzio Glass of the early 1700's. Certified! It sounded mega sweet - I mean like better than some really expensive instrument.

Pretty soon, it being a small midwest town, the local bloodsuckers got wind of the fiddle. Presently my beloved was in new company and drinking a lot of alchohol, which heretofore she had never done! Next thing I knew, court writ and papers - I owned nothing except $20=00 an old car and few personal items, oh and the local Deputy accompanied me to the city limit. I understand a lawyer now 'owns' my fiddle.

I still do not play in public -my dear sister sent her son 10,000 miles with a Romanian replacement- she holds title to this fiddle and it is nearly as sweet as the Glass, in fact if there ever is a dispute over ownership it may well start ww3!

Regarding women and men and music, seems to me that a man/woman who plays anything must have at least a little intelligence, ie enough memory to store a tune or two, the coordination to play and the imagination to entertain. However I must add, having four sisters, that women are firstly moved by looks next by sounds especially jingling and next by money/power. Also 'I' notice that they are very impulsive and given to grabbing the first likely man they meet. Course there are exceptions so don't go beating me around the ears, got lots of that years ago from my sisters.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: DonMeixner
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 08:18 PM

Jeri,

Thanks for the offer. But I have a quilter friend who holds sway to my heart and should she ever find out that another woman is sending me bed coverings even my skill with words couldn't explain it away to suit her :-).

Regards,

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 08:20 PM

Why go to all the trouble to become a possum Squeaks? Personally speaking, I'd hate to see you go through all the grief that must entail, not to mention the change in diet...eating garbage and all. So if you like, I'd be more than happy to give your ass a toot in your present incarnation if you'd like. From a musical standpoint, I'm not sure what kind of tune we could play on your keister, but maybe we could use your "cheeks" for a percussion section and get some interesting additional effects. Plus, a feather may be useful too.

Hey Steve!!! Maybe you can work the tuba thing to YOUR advantage....I didn't think Ol' Cleigh would get ME this far, so there's always hope. Just don't mention the banjo, ya know?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 09:20 PM

Well, it was worth a try. Damn.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 09:41 PM

Yeah...C'mon Don...........How about a virtual affair? I've got a couple going and gawd knows Mick does. And Jeri's a hot ticket...even dragonflies dig her hooters and Cletus has been arrested for peeping in her windows and contributing to the delinquency of a clay possum. How many other girls you know can fiddle while catching clams with their feet? Go ahead, name one!?!?! You need to give this some thought Don.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Caitrin
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 10:02 PM

Fiddle players are cute, but generally unbearably arrogant. I tend to prefer bagpipers (i.e. Seven Nations' Neil Anderson) and guitarists (of virtually any musical type). Of course, a vocalist who I can harmonize with is always nice too...and we can't forget banjo players...oh, heck, I love 'em all. Guys who really love music are wonderful, no matter what they play.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: anonNO1
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 10:37 PM

My favorite tune now is an obscure piece called 'Dr Gilberts', it requires a strong vibrant string attack and discourages audience participation being slow almost bluesey, one of those tunes which if it had words would be a 'bitchin' song. Tear in ma beer and all that crap. Awe well..... Better to be alone and happy than in a crowd and lonely.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: WyoWoman
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 10:40 PM

"Dragonflies love her hooters..."

That sounds almost like an epitaph, doesn't it...

"...and dragonflies loved her hooters
And possums blew her ...

oh, nivver mind...

ww


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 10:54 PM

Well my, aren't we morbid tonight. An epitaph??? I'd like to root around in your brain for awhile Pansy to see where that one came from. LMAO!!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: sophocleese
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 10:56 PM

On our fridge we have a 'Cornered' cartoon, culled from some paper or other, showing a man and woman in bed. The man is leaning over, away from the bed, and playing bagpipes. The woman is staring, annoyed, at him. The caption reads "From the No. 1 best seller, 'Women are from Venus, Men are from Scotland.'" It is attached to our fridge with a magnet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Barry Finn
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 10:59 PM

Before I got married, I was mainly attracted to woman that breathed, didn't matter much what & how they played. Then I married a woman that played penny whistle, since marring me she gave up the whistle but she still likes to play & which is just fine by me as long as she still breathes once & a while. Next life I'll get it on with a whistle that breathes & a bird that sings & when they stop they'll both still be playing till the lights blow out or the storm blows over or at the very least till I stop breathing. Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: WyoWoman
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 11:05 PM

It's probably because I ate so much Thanksgiving dinner I feel as though I might croak ...

I NEVER intend to eat that much. But it was fun, with plenty of good company and good food.

Besides, Spaw, I'm always thinking of either band names or epitaphs. My favorite epitaph, and the one I do so hope my children will select for me, despite the fact that I intend to be cremated, is, "See? I *told* you I was sick..."

(this isn't thread creep, is it? I mean, don't dudes find discussions of epitaphs and cremation 'n' shit pretty attractive, or have I just been hanging out with the wrong dudes?)

Wyo Pansy Rue Woman, M.B.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 11:14 PM

...and she was feared by clams everywhere. I kind of feel like the pied fiddler of clams. Jeez, Spaw, when did the fiddle get into the act? And aren't you "rooting around" enough without getting your hands all over WW's medula oblongata? Sick, just sick.

Sophocleese, loved the description of the cartoon.

Barry, glad to hear you weren't formerly attracted to women who didn't breathe, although I didn't quite get the part about breathing whistles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: DonMeixner
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 11:22 PM

Dragonflies? I've made some silver ones in the past, but jeezus Pat how would you know about... well... you know?

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Chick/dude magnets
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Nov 99 - 11:29 PM

In some thread somewhere, I mentioned floating around in the water with dragonflies flitting about above. Catspaw jumped on it like a rock star on a supermodel.

I'd probably love your silver dragonflies, but you're now going to tell me your lady friend will be upset if you show your jewelry to other women. Humph...


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