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BS: World Cup

GUEST,gnuonlaptop 29 Jun 14 - 12:33 PM
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GUEST,Musket 30 Jun 14 - 01:20 AM
John on the Sunset Coast 30 Jun 14 - 02:03 AM
MGM·Lion 30 Jun 14 - 04:05 AM
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Q (Frank Staplin) 30 Jun 14 - 12:35 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,gnuonlaptop
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 12:33 PM

39C and humidity in the 60s and the first cooling break ever. I couldn't even sit in the stands!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,gnuonlaptop
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 01:49 PM

New game!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,gnuonlaptop
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 01:57 PM

WOW!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 02:06 PM

Nether Regions, gnu! Hahahahahahahaaaaaa!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 02:40 PM

The Robins got the tequila worm in dramatic fashion. Most exciting game yet. Will the Greeks stoic away the game or will it Costa them?

Yeah it's lame. But it not whether you win or lose, it's how...


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 02:42 PM

Hi

Just watched Mexico v Holland ( or Nether Regions !! lol ).

Great match played in stifling heat. Mexico looked to have it sewn up, leading 1-0 with Holland struggling with the heat. Don't know what was served in that second drinks stop !!! But the Dutch started to press and after several corners (all wasted) they scored a great goal by Schneider. Then in injury time Robben was awarded a penalty. He had been refused at least two that were far more worth a penalty than this. Probably the ref thought it was time to poor guy got one.

Is it a co-incidence that the Dutch Manager is coming to manage my team, Manchester United. Who of course ,excluding a short period by Moyes was Sir Alex Ferguson. Alex as any football enthusiast will know, was very adept at gaining very late victories.

I look forward to this season under Louis van Gaal, and hope after last year's debacle it will be worth my season ticket.

But for the rest of the World cup I will be shouting for Holland. ( Though I think a South American team will win it.

Cheers

Mike van L2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 03:30 PM

I will root for the Dutch simply because I love to watch some of the players. Robben, as I have posted before, simply amazes me. Van Persie too. There are others. Just like at least several on the German team AND I get to play Schweinsteiger!!! when the Germans are playing.

Lot's of great football left and I shall enjoy it all.

BTW... you DO know the Dutch rule the world eh? There have been Mudcat threads discussing the sneaky Dutch and their very secretive Manatee Brigade which they use to enforce their grip and enslave those who underestimate them. They even have wooden shoes! Beware The Dutch!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 03:31 PM

Mexico were robbed by a Dutch diver & a silly referee who let himself be taken in. Boo!

Just off to watch Costa Coffee play Aphrodite Taverna.

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 03:47 PM

Dutch diver & a silly referee. Dutch diver & a silly referee.
Dutch diver & a silly referee. Dutch diver & a silly referee.
Dutch diver & a silly referee. Dutch diver & a silly referee.
Dutch diver & a silly referee. Dutch diver & a silly referee.
Dutch diver & a silly referee. Dutch diver & a silly referee.
Dutch diver & a silly referee. Dutch diver & a silly referee.
Dutch diver & a silly referee. Dutch diver & a silly referee.
Dutch diver & a silly referee. Dutch diver & a silly referee.
Dutch diver & a silly referee. Dutch diver & a silly referee.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 07:14 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 09:33 PM

Should be held in HOLLYWOOD all actors try AUSSIE RULES,OR RUGBY


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 01:20 AM

Costa Rica got through and good luck to them. Greece were the technical better side and must be asking themselves how they didn't win in open play.

Costa Rica had passion and worked well at dispossessing. How far they can run their luck ? We'll see against The Netherlands who are a class side with some excellent players. They have still got their best to show.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 02:03 AM

Costa Rica deserved that win; CR played a man down for near an hour, and Greece could not put them away. I intensely dislike kicks as a way to settle a well played match, so I did not stick around for the shoot-out. Ditto with Brazil/Chile. I much prefer sudden death play on the pitch. Playing that long, in that weather, sudden death might become more than a description of overtime.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 04:05 AM

I still think, as have suggested before, that both extra time & shootouts should be abolished. If match drawn at 90 minutes, then the team which has conceded fewer free kicks [omitting for offside] should be declared winner. If there is a tie on these, then it might be reasonable to proceed straight to a shootout: but only then.

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 06:51 AM

France? Germany? I shall cheer for both.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 12:35 PM

Sponsor's adverts around the playing field - some contain short mottoes or statements, mostly in English. Macdonald's "I'm Lovin' it" is one; the Portuguese translation showed up at one game I watched- "amor multo todo isso."

Any others?

Hope Costa Rica makes it to the next round.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 01:04 PM

Valbueno can sure go and jump for his size! Exceptional so far today.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 02:03 PM

Man of the match for me? Valbuena. Man!!! that little guy is fun to watch.

Yobo must be absolutely heartbroken.

Right, must get some ales from the fridge downstairs in prep for Schweinsteiger!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,gnuonlaptop
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 06:23 PM

First of all, allow me to praise the Brazilian cameramen.... camerapersons?... for the excellent choices of shots of the fans. At least one of them not only likes taking shots of gorgeous womenz but womenz who are jumping up and down. Jumping up and down womenz is one of my favourite things. Yes, that is crass. Deal with it. I don't care.

Secondly, could we at least have sudden death overtime?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,gnuonlaptop
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 06:32 PM

Oh baby. Seconds! What a finish!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Professor Gerald Lambeau, Fields Medal Winne
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 07:43 PM

USA 3 Belgium 1.

Belgium's goal will be an own goal scored by Michael Bradley in an errant clearing attempt.

USA scorers will be Dempsey (2) and Zusi.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Jun 14 - 09:33 PM

In watching the game today, gnu, I kept seeing "Schweinsteiger!!!" Bad as an ear worm. lol

What time is Tuesday's USA-Belgium match? Earlier I had read that it was 3:00 pm EST, which would make it 11:00 am for us in Alaska. Today, ESPN says that it's 12noon EST. So which is it?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: michaelr
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 01:23 AM

Germany had to labor mightily to get the win over Algeria. Which is what they're good at - laboring mightily. Similar to the US, most of whose wins in their international history have been from being scored on first.

That said, I don't expect France to be much of a problem for Germany. Belgium will be the test for the US side. Those guys are bigger and brawnier than them. Argentina should be able to beat Switzerland because of Messi, but you never know - he's had some off games lately.

On the other side, I'm rooting for Columbia - they've been playing better Brazilian-style football in this tournament than the host side.
And Costa Rica could just keep surprising everyone - I would not want to call that one.

All in all, it's been a more exciting World Cup than the last two, if not more. I'm enjoying it.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 02:03 AM

I meant to say that one source said the match would be at 3:00 pm EST while today ESPN says it is at 4:00 pm EST, which is 12 noon in Alaska.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 08:24 AM

USA at 5PM AST. AST = EST - 1. So, 4 PM EST. The earlier game is 1 PM AST = 12 PM EST.

Here ya go https://www.google.ca/search?q=world+cup+schedule&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&gfe_rd=cr&ei=sMOiU-2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 11:39 AM

Hi

I thought that Germany had to work extremely hard to go through.
Algeria made some fantastic counter attacking moves but just lacked the skill and prowess of a goal scorer.
I never felt that Germany would lose as they had most of the control of the game. They made lots of chances - Mueller missed at least three chances he would normally take.

I think that Algeria were getting more tired as 90 minutes approached and was confident that extra time would see off the gallant Algerians.

In tonight's games I think Argentina will be too hot to handle for Switzerland. Belgium I feel have not yet produced the form that I expected of them. They have some really fine players and maybe tonight they will show what they can do - I am expecting them to win.

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 11:50 AM

Hi

I agree with Michael and Gnu and others who don't like penalties to decide a game. I am with them but I am not sure what the answer is.

We have experimented with " a golden goal " but it did not work. It can take too long a time to score a winner.

I don't think that corners or fouls will work either because it will cause problems. I think it will make fouls & corners to have too much importance attached to them. We have seen in this World Championship how referees are constantly ducking decisions to give anything in the penalty area. Many decisions are not given in the penalty area that would have been made in other areas of the pitch.

So love em or hate em I think that penalties will be still the best for the game.

And... it makes for more drama which FIFA likes as it draws in more viewers.

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 12:29 PM

It's on at 4 PM ET (Eastern Time).

There is no place in the USA on AT (Atlantic Time), which is an hour ahead of ET. Gnu gets it at 5 his time, we get it at 4.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 12:47 PM

Thanks, gnu. Thanks, Jeri. That means that we in Alaska get it at 12 noon. A friend is coming over to watch at 11:00, I'll give him a call.

I just turned on the television and Argentina-Switzerland have been at it for 45 minutes.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,gnuonlaptop
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 12:51 PM

Actually, it's ADST here now and I know that because it's over 40H here. EC has issued a heat warning and that would never happen during AST. But I have cold beer and air conditioning.

How's about them yodellers eh? I think they have outplayed Argentina so far. A pleasant surprise. Very exciting stuff.

GO USA!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 01:09 PM

I was at Old Songs Festival last weekend, and there was a Brazilian music group on stage Friday night. The lead singer said the one actual Brazilian member was listening to the game on headphones, and asked what the score was. (It was 1/1 at the time.) Who could blame a guy?

I'm not a soccer fan, (I know, "for shame, for shame"), but I may peek into this.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,gnuonlaptop
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 02:12 PM

WOW!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,g
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 02:37 PM

What a game! Now, I gots ta clean me smelts. Fish fry before the next game.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 03:46 PM

g? How did I get 'g' off the laptop?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,gnuonlaptop
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 04:06 PM

Bradley has run 38 km so far in the cup? More than any other player? How do they know this stuff?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 05:51 PM

Belgium's class has shown through in the second half but the tenacity and commitment of USA in this match has been stunning.

Tim Howard shows how an average team such as Everton can hold its own in the premiership.

Jurgen the German must feel somewhat proud. Anyway, here comes extra time.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,gnuonlaptop
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 06:34 PM

Well done, USA and well done Belgium. That was a heck of a game.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 06:34 PM

Probably the best game of the tournament yet. USA don't go out by losing, they just happened to come second.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 07:27 PM

Well said, Musket. I am near hoarse. Being a bachelor living alone in my own house, I get to yell very loudly at errant play and poor reffing (though I found the reffing much better in the last game than other games). Some may think such behaviour is odd but those have not played sports at a high level.

I must say, I find it odd that some strikes are taken upon first touch when a second touch for a proper strike with the ball 'settled' for spin and position is available. The presence of mind and field vision seems lacking among these lads while most are well experienced. Perhaps my experience playing other sports simply doesn't apply. Only time I ever played 'soccer' was with a basketball on the street and got my nose broken... wasn't much of a header! I speak from playing squash (yellow dot - the most demanding sport in the world save warfare), hockey, Yankee football and others. I do NOT know if settling and changing ball spin is even possible in football. It just seems to me that it should be because of the way the ball is made???

In any case, another great day of entertainment.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jul 14 - 01:28 AM

Like England v Italy, on which I commented favourably above in this particular, another almost entirely clean and gentlemanly game, altho ultimately so excitingly knife-edge: very few free kicks, no serious fouls, only one or two bits of garment-grabbing* that I recall ~~ it's still possible, one is glad to see.

~M~

*(A BTW -- I observe that shirts don't get grabbed so much these days as the elastic of the shorts -- perhaps on the basis that a player will stop running if he fears his shorts are liable to come down! This technique seems to me to have taken over just the last few days. Anyone else noticed this?)


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Jul 14 - 01:31 AM

That was a great game. I had expected to be painfully aware of the USA team's flaws in commitment and execution but instead, it was just a great game. I thought the Belgians played more aggressively but that the US team had outstanding defense. And not just Tim Howard, although he was a joy to watch. It was a heart pounder, for sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Jul 14 - 03:53 AM

US...."played for the shirts" tremendous effort and a hell of a lot of skill.
GREAT!......there IS a stereotype!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Stu
Date: 02 Jul 14 - 06:55 AM

Congratulations to the USA . . . a great game and I loved the fact they never gave up. As for Tim Howard - he was mighty. Thrilling stuff and a game I'll remember for years. Also brilliant were the fans. Apart from the England fans the USA fans seemed to be the only ones chanting at all. Get 'em singing!

Anyone who says the US doesn't 'get' football now is talking squarely out of their arse. Welcome to the club - you're in with honours ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Jul 14 - 09:58 AM

After the game was over, and the combination pride/disappointment faded a bit, I realized just how few fouls there were in such a hard-fought game!

I never 'quite' understood why so many games feature almost interminable rough play and careless or intentional fouls. ( Years ago, I watched a team...Croatia, I believe... attempt to win by battering their opponent senseless.)

USA & Belgium proved it is possible to play hard and still refrain from stupid stuff.

The US is indeed working toward better awareness & competence in international play. We DO have way too many other sports that usurp TV time, and that have more timeouts for commercials. 45 minutes without trying to SELL something? Unheard of!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 02 Jul 14 - 02:35 PM

Hi

I agree with the majority here who found this to be a great match in all aspects of entertaining, exciting and skilful football.

I agree with Michael about the game mirroring England v Italy in respect of clean play and sportsmanship. Credit to both USA and Belgium for providing this showpiece in this World Theatre.

I found myself not wishing either side to lose but I was glad that it was won in extra time and not have to go to penalties. Nor would I have liked to have seen it decided on corners.

For me in chorus with others here I would pick out Tim Howard as the Man of the Match. Of course it came as no surprise to me as I have watched him many times when he played for Manchester United. He was excellent when he was at United but he has improved as he has matured and now must be one of the best in the World.

After the second goal by another Everton player Lukaku I thought USA were dead and buried. Not a bit of it; they took a real deep breath and they went for it. Fantastic. Belgium buckled and I know they were very glad to hear the final whistle go.

Another USA player that took my eye was Michael Bradley. I can't understand some of the criticisms that have been mentioned here. Last night he was a great leader and led from the front. Fantastic engine a a great distributor of the ball.

I hope there will be more games like this.

One thing is certain; USA can be proud of it's team and I am sure they will get even better.

I sure hope so. We need more teams like this.

Belgium of course go forward and I wish them well in the next round. I think they will be hard to beat....but not many will come as close to doing so as the USA.

Regards

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jul 14 - 06:58 PM

"Anyone who says the US doesn't 'get' football now is talking squarely out of their arse. Welcome to the club - you're in with honours ;-)"

Said it for 8 years. Watch out. When the Yanks really get into it, they get into it. Fact is, they will be better next time. That's just the way they do shit.

Will football even come close to Yankee football in the US? Hahahahahahaa!. NO way. And that is not just from what Bill D said... "The US is indeed working toward better awareness & competence in international play. We DO have way too many other sports that usurp TV time, and that have more timeouts for commercials. 45 minutes without trying to SELL something? Unheard of!"

I have said it many times in this forum... Yankee football is as much of a game of chess as it is a game of physical prowess. I watch many sports. Yankee football is, by far, the best of all to watch because of the intricacy of the game and the physical demands which far exceed those of even rugby or squash (both of which which I have a passion for). I find it odd that so many crap on it for whatever reasons and haven't taken the time to learn what they are crapping on.

Finally... Friday? I have to wait until Friday? Oh, this sucks!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Jul 14 - 09:09 PM

One aspect of watching futbol/football/soccer is that you cannot take your eyes off for a minute. Watching other sports makes me sleepy- not so, futbol/football/soccer.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 03 Jul 14 - 05:20 AM

Hi Ebbie

<" One aspect of watching futbol/football/soccer is that you cannot take your eyes off for a minute. Watching other sports makes me sleepy- not so, futbol/football/soccer ">

Not if you had watched Manchester United last year...lol
And no I am not being facetious... I am a Man U supporter of long standing and for my sins I am still a season ticket member. They had a bad year but we all hope that the new manager can galvanise the club into it's former glory.

Regards

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 03 Jul 14 - 05:26 AM

The chess analogy from Gnu is interesting.

That's why I love a four / five day test match as opposed to one day or Clapton forbid, 20/20 when watching cricket.

Now I have either retired or taken a break, (haven't decided which yet) I have time over the summer to get to Headingly (a niece and her cricket mad husband live 5 mins walk from the ground) or Trent Bridge, (my son lives a 20 min train away from the ground.)

So no need to stay sober then...


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Stu
Date: 03 Jul 14 - 05:29 AM

Roy Keane has come to the Villa as assistant manager but I'm not suer how I feel about that. I find Keane a tad too confrontational for my liking, but that's what Villa need at the moment. He's passionate about the game and if he can kindle some fire in the Villa youngsters we might stay up next season. Such ambition.

Looking forward to Friday, although I might nip out for a tune.


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