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BS: World Cup

gnu 24 Jun 14 - 02:04 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jun 14 - 02:04 PM

BTW... how does one get away with biting an opponent in front of millions of viewers? It was recorded by many cameras at different angles! He's been suspended before for this. Suarez should be banned from playing any sports for life. Absolutely shocking!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: G-Force
Date: 24 Jun 14 - 02:21 PM

Well done England? A squad worth about 550 million Pounds, and only two goals and one point to show for 270 minutes of football. Costa Rica are worth about one-eighteenth of that and top the group.

I don't blame Hodgson particularly, although some things could be better. We just need some defenders who can stay awake and some strikers who can kick straight.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 24 Jun 14 - 03:18 PM

We went to the Tesco superstore today and were a bit miffed to find the whole place festooned with Greek flags. Why? As you probably know, my husband is from Ivory Coast and was rather disappointed to see this, as his country play Greece this evening. It's a bit thick of Tesco to side with one team like this. Surprising really. Obviously one expects England flags to be displayed as they're selling various items (or were!) for England fans, but to go all out for blooming Greece and not mention the other team....grrr!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 24 Jun 14 - 03:28 PM

Suarez definitely DID bite again. I've just watched the replays. His victim had teeth-marks on his shoulder, I saw them clearly. This man should be banned for life. 'Three bites and you're out'. Hopefully the authorities and powers-that-be will act after watching it again, and ban him from ever playing football any more.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 24 Jun 14 - 03:46 PM

Eliza -- Has your Tesco by any chance got a Greek manager? I can otherwise think of no reason why an English store should particularly favour either Greece or Ivory Coast. Seems rather a bizarre thing for Tesco to have done either way.

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 24 Jun 14 - 05:23 PM

I agree Michael. Even if the manager were Greek (subjunctive!) one couldn't condone such bias. I wanted to ask at the Customer Service desk, but there was a bit of a queue, and we'd just bought an enormous tub of ice-cream which was going to melt if we didn't hurry home. Maybe, to be fair, they feature a different country each day and it just happened to be Greece today. It's puzzling though.

What do people think about the biting incident? Surprised there aren't more comments.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 04:15 AM

Simple Eliza. Nothing newsworthy.

He is on the pitch and it's a while since he last bit anyone. Just a matter of time really....

The reaction of the Uruguay press was interesting though. He didn't bite him and the witch hunt is being orchestrated by the British press who forget that they won 1966 through a dubious goal....

And then Mrs Musket wonders why I am fascinated with international football.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 04:23 AM

Apparently he said, "It's just one of those things that happens on the pitch." !!! (Like bear-baiting or lion taming perhaps? As if all players get bitten regularly!) What astonished me is that he appeared to be a bit miffed that he'd hurt his teeth in the attack. If one goes around biting people, one can hardly complain that one's teeth hurt afterwards! If this has happened in the street, it would I think be classed as ABH, an arrestable offence with a possibly custodial sentence.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 06:59 AM

Hi

So England did just manage to one point....

Some of the young players did play quite well....but as individuals. The whole team ( quite naturally in the circumstances ) looked disjointed and some of the players looked as if they didn't want to receive the ball...reminds me a little of Man United last season.

We badly need two central defenders who can organise and control the defence. Also we haven't any midfielders who can turn defence to attack and run box to box.

On the positive side I thought Shaw had an excellent second half and Jones and Smalling looked a little safer than the previous incumbants.

AS for Suarez....Surely he must be given a long suspension if not stopped from playing again.

3 times is 3 times too many.

cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 10:30 AM

FIFA bit him today! He may get suspended for 24.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 11:00 AM

It's such a strange thing to do. One can imagine a chap pushing, shoving, even giving someone a clump, but biting? Weird! I just hope the children and young people don't take this up as a craze. They often copy what they see on TV. Teeth marks galore!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 01:04 PM

It's a Yank invention. Mike Tyson started the craze. The video of him biting a chunk out of Evanader Hollyfield's ear in a World Heavyweight Boxing championship is on the net, I would expect. But he only bit someone twice. The present ass has a hat trick.

Now... 24 matches? Not enough. Send him off for good. The press sickens me with that BS about the biting stems from childhood humiliation. Screw that. He's either a man or he is mentally unbalanced and dangerous.

And that elbow to the short ribs of the Nigerian keeper just now? That should have been a red card BUT I saw it on slo-mo from different cameras and the reffing staff doesn't have that luxury.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 01:46 PM

The Uruguay-Italy game was interesting, as it was played as a contact sport. (I have a sore arm and have been sleeping in my adjustable chair in front of the TV, thus have been watching some of the games).

Except for a few calls (one I thought accidental contact brought a card), the referee let play continue despite many uncalled for hits from behind, or a palm to the back of the head.

I wondered if some enmity had been left over from league games in which some of the players might have participated.

I find FIFA football (soccer) a dull game, but when played as a contact sport like the Uruguay-Italy match, I might even become a fan.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 01:51 PM

I might add that Suarez took a few good hits from behind before the biting incident.
The 'bite' left no more than a small red mark; some ugly hits will go unpunished because the referee ignored or did not see them.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 03:25 PM

Apologies in advance. Just emailed to me...

A seven year old boy was at the centre of a courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with the child custody law and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree possible. The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried out that they also beat him. After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him. After two recesses to check legal references and confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the England Football team, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone.

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 03:48 PM

DtG... Hahahahahahaaaaa!

Q... I think Canucks should show the world how it's done. $1... lay down Blue Lines and fuck the existing silly offside rule. #2... body checks should be allowed. Now, that's a manly man's game. #3... any pussy that dives or whines about bullshit gets 2 minutes for delay of game.

Seriously, that false emoting of being hard done by all the weenin pansies makes it hard to watch sometimes. Yes, there is a lot of fighting in hockey, too much for my liking, but I'd rather see that than the bullshit acting that goes on in football every 5 minutes. It's embarrassing!

There... THAT oughta draw a crowd. >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 06:23 PM

Performance of the competition? How about Dominguez, the Ecuador goalkeeper tonight. Had to dive to save one shot. Otherwise it just looked as if shot was fired straight at him, which bespeaks some of the best goalkeeping anticipation I have seen in 70+ years of watching football [& playing -- as a goalkeeper! tho maybe not quite of World Cup class].

Anyone nominate a better goalkeeping display? Or another candidate for Man of the Tournament?

OK -- I know: it isn't over till it's over. Till then...

BTW -- reminded [by England inter alia] of one of my favourite pieces of Charles Schulz'"Peanuts" dialogue between [who else?!] Charlie Brown & Lucy van Pelt --

"Winning isn't everything."
"Maybe. But losing isn't anything!"

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: banjoman
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 06:08 AM

Just a couple of thoughts which this thread has provoked:
Rooney (despite the club he plays for) is the victim of a lot of negative reporting by the press. I have no doubt that he, and most of the England squad give of their best even if its not good enough. I think that if asked to play in goal he would, just to pull on the England shirt.
Steven Gerrard still has a lot to contribute to England and Liverpool even if he is slowing down a bit. Don't retire just yet.
Suarez - a long ban from international football and a requirement to wear a gum shield whenever he steps onto a football pitch. I am interested in how Liverpool FC see his future at Anfield.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MikeL2
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 01:47 PM

hi

So Suarez has been dealt with !!! 4 months from partaking in anything linked to football. Plus 12 games ban on playing in International games. This means he cannot play for the rest of the World Cup. If he is still in the English Premier League he will miss the first 14 matches of the season.

There is an appeal facility and it is said that he will appeal. If the appeal process takes any time to come up with a decision, Suarez WILL be able to play until the appeal process comes to a decision.

I think the punishment is too lenient given the World stage he was playing on plus his past history of biting.

Just watching tonight's games. Portugal v Ghana is far more exciting, to me Germany & USA look as if they are settling to qualify as if the present scores hold ( Port 2-1 & Germany 1-0) they will both qualify.

After today the real games start with the knockouts. No more tactical results. You either win or you are out. There will some great games.

I still fancy Germany or Argentina   but hey once the knockout stage starts anyone can win it.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Stu
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 02:41 PM

Congrats to the USA for getting into the next round! Result!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 02:55 PM

A one-game ban would have been sufficient punishment for Suarez; I fail to see why he should suffer when hits from behind go unchecked.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 03:09 PM

Oh come on Q, surely sinking one's teeth into a player is a bit weird to say the least, especially as he's done it twice before. It isn't in the same category as other types of foul. It just can't be acceptable on any terms whatsoever. The man has a psychological problem that needs addressing before he should be allowed near a another match.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 03:43 PM

Considering that Suarez had to bite through cloth to get at the flesh he must have bitten hard to pass the actual teeth marks.

If this were a murder mystery Forensics would be able to identify the biter by the marks.

WTH I consider this act as despicable as Mike Tyson's ear bite.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 06:36 PM

"I am interested in how Liverpool FC see his future at Anfield."

If they had any footballs, they would dismiss him.

BTW, CBC's This Is That had a piece on kids playing 'soccer' without any balls today. It was good. Prior, they had a piece on new fees at Canada Parks. Hilarious stuff. Now.... This Is That is NOT The Irrelevant Show or The Debaters or The Vinyl Café or Laugh out Loud or..., but it can often be quite funny.

Just type in cbc.ca and follow yer nose. Trust me. It's worth it. Enjoy.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Professor Gerald Lambeau
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 08:11 PM

World Cup thoughts.

1) Suarez is a horse-teethed, homosexual vampire.
2) Three attempted shots ain't gonna cut for the U.S. team. And they simply have to maintain possession of the ball much better.
3) Michael Bradley is "Mr. Giveaway".


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 08:22 PM

The main impression of the USA/Germany match that I came away with was that Germany was much more solid, they read the field better, placed themselves better, were more unflappable. That said, I enjoyed it.

Now, the next game for the US is with Belgium. I watched South Korea/Belgium today. I rooted for the Koreans- they're cute. :) And man, some of those men from Belgium are HUGE. But there, again, it seemed to me that Belgium was more savvy, less tentative. And some of the footwork on both sides was marvelous. I am in awe.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 08:40 PM

I won the Field's Medal by proving that 2011 is a sexy prime.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: michaelr
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 08:58 PM

Bradley hasn't done well at all in the US games. If he's the best Klinsmann has for a midfield playmaker, I doubt they'll last past the round of 16.

Suarez is apparently insane and should be banned for life.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 09:10 PM

Just posted a response to a post on FB....

"....if Germany have anything special up their sleeves, they were keeping it well hidden this evening."

I agree. ~180 touches in the first 20 or so minutes? My thoughts? I know this may sound odd but it seemed to me as if Germany was practicing. Standoffish and then playing dangerously close with intricate set plays and meticulous footwork. Call me crazy but it just seemed to 'add up' as the game progressed.

I played Schweinsteiger!!! by myself today. That's where the first person to scream his name out loudly when he gets a touch gets to not take a large swig of ale but all others must. Since I was the only one playing, I changed the rules to a sip if I missed a touch before the announcer said his name. Just something about that name eh?

Schweinsteiger!!! Ya gotta say it really fast if ya wanna play.

But... Argentina? Wow. Not the same (older) educated savvy as Germany but WOW! There are so many that could win that I am now understanding earlier posts about the open possibilities. Of course, 'on any given Sunday' (Yankee football reference) but I had three teams pegged from near the start... Argentina, Germany & France. Now, recall, I dunno squat about football so don't tell me I duuno squat about football as that is a given so my pegs are loose... fer now. Argentina?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 03:14 AM

Question: What does 'steiger' mean? I'm assuming that it has something to do with catching or slaughtering?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 03:23 AM

It's a Rod of some kind?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 03:26 AM

'steigen' means to mount or climb onto. 'Steiger' is therefore someone who 'gets on top of'. 'Schweinsteiger' was the person whose job it was to get on top of the pig and hold it securely while it was having its throat cut.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 03:28 AM

Musket LOL!!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 12:24 PM

It's just fun to quickly and loudly blurt it out in a "fierce" German accent. I started doing it and the lads I watch the game with (used to, that is) started doing it. Of course, if one says it before the touch is made, one must take a swig and be chastised by the others. Just chastised; no card.

Childish? Yes. Why do you ask?

Gee... a whole day without football. I have no excuse to avoid yard work and maintenance. Hmmm... maybe it's too hot. I'll bet it is. Even if it isn't hot at the moment, it's only gonna get hotter until this evening. I guess I'll have to listen to some podcasts of The Irrelevant Show at CBC Radio so as to keep my fair Irich skin out of the sun's deadly rays.

Bored? Yes. Why do you ask?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 12:58 PM

An amusing aside. According to a political newsletter I receive in my e-mail this morning:

Ann Coulter, the darling of the arch-conservatives (long, blonde hair, eyes like a rattlesnake) maintains that the World Cup is a deep, dark plot by Obama and the Democrats to distract Americans from noticing how Obama and his stooges are systematically destroying the country by turning it into a Liberal dictatorship.

("Liberal dictatorship......!??")

She hates, loathes, and despises soccer. Why?

"It's foreign!"

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Rog Peek
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 02:17 PM

Forgive me if someone has already posted this:

Rooney says to Hodgson, "I'm not sure if I'm better on the left, the right, or in the middle". Hodgson says, "for God's sake Wayne, just pick a seat and get on the plane".

Rog


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 02:25 PM

The a World Cup is a plot by an American President? Not bad. Who was the President in 1930?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 02:41 PM

Coulter went on to imply that because there is no individual winner it's a socialist game.

I suspect that she is pulling legs, big time. Although I am not sure she has a working sense of humo(u)r.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 04:30 PM

Bloody hell, you guys take baseball, American football and basketball seriously. Did McCarthy know these games existed? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 04:46 PM

McCarthy? Who he?

One thing about organized sports that I am always forcibly reminded of: they are modern day versions of gladiators and the days when losers could be put to death. We even speak the same jargon. I suppose that it is an improvement. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Jim McLean
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 05:25 PM

Someone said that Wayne Roomey should wipe his tears away with his pay packet.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 08:15 PM

Rog Peek... hahahahaa! Good one!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 12:28 PM

Brazil V Chile is a good match up to yet.

Just saying..


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: michaelr
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 03:03 PM

Brazil are through, as they must, though not from much creditable effort in this match. They looked disjointed, showing no sign of the famous Samba style that made football "the beautiful game". Boy, do I miss the Brazilian side from, say, 12 or 16 years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 06:03 PM

Agreed. Still, it was entertaining. All in all, a good day of football although the second game fell flat at about 25 minutes to go.

As for Brazil, I am kinda glad on behalf of their fans they 'shot out' but I will be surprised if they survive much longer. Then again, who knows eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 09:19 PM

Tip from a racing man who played amateur football.....Costa Rica....good odds.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 06:57 AM

From Big Al on FB... "download available of LOUIS SUAREZ'S GREATEST MOMENTS - just 3 megabites!"


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 06:58 AM

Hi

Brazil v Chile was an exciting game though not a classic in football. I think the final result was just about right because I felt that Brazil were very slightly the better team.

They had a last minute fright when Chile hit the bar with the goalkeeper completely beaten.

The Brazil keeper made two really good saves from the penalty shootout and the last Chile penalty hit the post and all of Brazil breathed a huge sigh of relief.

The Colombia v Uruguay game was not so good and with Colombia going two up they tried to play safe and close down the game. Uruguay did attack a lot in the last few minutes but it was all desperate stuff and they never looked like scoring.

With regards to Uruguay, strange about the differing treatment of Suarez, who has been been made into a hero for getting sent off for biting. Compare the reaction with the England fans with David Beckham who got sent off by a very dubious ( and not in any way dangerous ) action. He was castigated and made a scapegoat by the England fans as an excuse for England going out.

" Funny old game" Makes you think......1111???

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 12:00 PM

I have just come the pop shop where I found out the bastards at NB Liquor (government) have raised the price of a 12 pack! It went up yesterday. Canada Day is Tuesday. Sneaky cheeky ^&(%^*&^!!! No way I am paying $24.50 for 12 beers. I bought the 30 pack on sale. I may take up chewing gum when the sale is over.

I shall be cheering the Nether Regions and Costa Rica (or Greece depending on sportsmanship). Got lotsa beer anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 12:23 PM

200!!gooooaaaaaaallllllllllll!!!


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