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BS: World Cup

MGM·Lion 16 Jul 14 - 06:47 AM
Nigel Parsons 16 Jul 14 - 05:39 AM
Musket 15 Jul 14 - 09:00 AM
Richard Bridge 15 Jul 14 - 08:08 AM
Musket 15 Jul 14 - 06:36 AM
GUEST,MikeL2 15 Jul 14 - 06:14 AM
Musket 15 Jul 14 - 04:52 AM
GUEST,MikeL2 15 Jul 14 - 04:41 AM
Big Al Whittle 15 Jul 14 - 04:11 AM
Big Al Whittle 14 Jul 14 - 04:13 PM
MikeL2 14 Jul 14 - 03:22 PM
MikeL2 14 Jul 14 - 03:02 PM
MikeL2 14 Jul 14 - 02:48 PM
Musket 14 Jul 14 - 02:34 PM
Big Al Whittle 14 Jul 14 - 01:22 PM
Musket 14 Jul 14 - 12:22 PM
Bill D 14 Jul 14 - 11:39 AM
GUEST,MikeL2 14 Jul 14 - 11:18 AM
GUEST,MikeL2 14 Jul 14 - 11:03 AM
Bonzo3legs 14 Jul 14 - 09:56 AM
Bonzo3legs 14 Jul 14 - 09:18 AM
GUEST,Grishka 14 Jul 14 - 05:49 AM
Ebbie 14 Jul 14 - 04:12 AM
Musket 14 Jul 14 - 04:02 AM
Ebbie 14 Jul 14 - 04:02 AM
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Musket 13 Jul 14 - 07:31 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Jul 14 - 06:47 AM

Have just scrolled back thru thread. I note that I have been backing Germany thruout, so can take some satisfaction. But must particularly congratulate MikeL2, who predicted either Germany or Argentina on 26 June. Now that really was prescient. Well done!

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 16 Jul 14 - 05:39 AM

Refresh - for thread name game!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 15 Jul 14 - 09:00 AM

Do you know Bridge, that's the first post you have published on the subject of football without prefixing it with "association."

Well done.





No football, no cricket, not interested in Tour de France....

Might have to go to a folk club instead. That's novel this month....


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Jul 14 - 08:08 AM

400


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 15 Jul 14 - 06:36 AM

But I enjoy eton it all the same...


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 15 Jul 14 - 06:14 AM

Hi Musket

.......but it turned out to be a mess...lol

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 15 Jul 14 - 04:52 AM

They tried building a wall there once, to be fair...


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 15 Jul 14 - 04:41 AM

Hi Al

<"well not really. you've got a government that blethers on about how important sport is to the nation. then sells off school playing fields.">

I agree ....but I bet they are not selling off the playing fields at Eton !!!

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Jul 14 - 04:11 AM

I bet its good craic in Germany right now. Lucy Ward is touring there -lucky little sod!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 04:13 PM

well not really. you've got a government that blethers on about how important sport is to the nation. then sells off school playing fields.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 03:22 PM

Hi

This thing about trying to build teams from non-national players is rife.

An interesting one is Adnan Januzaj. As a 16 year old he became a Manchester United player having previously played for a Belgian team having been born there. His parents are Kosovo/Albanian descent.

Last year at 19 was picked to play in United's first team and shows great promise.

Januzaj is eligible to represent Belgium through birth and passport, Albania through his ethnic Albanian heritage, Turkey through his grandparents, and Serbia due to the disputed status of his parents' homeland of Kosovo. He is also eligible to represent Kosovo in international football; although Kosovo does not at this time have a FIFA-affiliated senior team.

All these Countries want Januzaj to represent them. Plus England were making overtures for him to qualify on residential grounds.
He eventually chose Belgium and was selected to go with their team this year to the World Cup. he was only used as a substitute but his manager says that he was taken as much for the experience as a squad player.

It was reported that he has received death threats from fans of teams that he turned down.

Gets complicated don't it ???

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 03:02 PM

Hi Al

<" six of the German team were Bayern Munich. imagine a top rate premier division team with that many nationals....that's the lesson England should learn, but won't">

You may be interested to learn that Man United had 7 players to play for England in ( I think 2001). Liverpool had 6 in June of this year !!

So maybe it's not how many but how good they are??

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 02:48 PM

Hi Musket

What you in a bar!!!!! Now I know there is something wrong...lol

I see England have picked Simon Kerrigan for the next Test. Kerrigan of course was savaged by the Australians last year when he was hit for ) for 53 off eight overs on the first day. He was taken off and not used for the rest of the series. I have seen him in a couple of games this year and he does not look like England class to me. But we are woefully short of spin bowlers.

See you in the bar...lol
Hic

Regards

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 02:34 PM

Aye, Dorchester signed a Welsh bloke last season...


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 01:22 PM

six of the German team were Bayern Munich. imagine a top rate premier division team with that many nationals....

that's the lesson England should learn, but won't.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 12:22 PM

The post was sent yesterday...... From my iPhone in the bar of The Trent Bridge Inn.... I didn't check it had posted, I was getting the beers in!

Weird!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 11:39 AM

"... many successful sportspersons are suspected of having opted for their nationality just to optimize their success..."

As in the Japanese speed skater who was dropped from his team, and moved to Russia and obtained citizenship... and proceeded to make the Japanese regret their decision.

The major US sports... football, baseball, basketball... are ALL about teams trying to buy a winning team. At least the World Cup has some semblance of National Pride...even with the odd mix one gets in the US and European teams.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 11:18 AM

Hi Bonzo

<" At least I understand the offside rule now! >"

It's easy. You watch for the linesman and when his flag goes up....it's not off side.

Or Es Fácil. Miras Por El juez de línea y CUANDO Sube su bandera .... No es lateral a la Salida.

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 11:03 AM

Hi Musket

<" In the meantime, I'm at Trent Bridge today to see India bat for a draw.">

Your message is dated today 14th July.....but the Test Match finished yesterday. Or am I in a time warp....would not be unusual ..lol

You were right India did bat for a draw and got it.

Cheers Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 09:56 AM

Shame that the usual rent-a-mob scum in Buenos Aires riot in a way that makes even the Croydon riot of 2011 seem like a Sunday School outing!!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 09:18 AM

At least I understand the offside rule now!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 05:49 AM

In sports between nations, there is a perception of "actual" nationality (Bill's message of 13 Jul 14 - 05:48 PM) which has little to do with ethnic background. The point is that many successful sportspersons are suspected of having opted for their nationality just to optimize their success or income. National officials often encourage this practice, although it effectively diminishes the identification of citizens with their national team, the raison d'être of such tournaments.

Fortunately, excessive "symbolic patriotism" seems to be slowly decreasing, even in Latin America.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 04:12 AM

By the way, today I happened upon a match between the Seattle Sounders and the Portland Timbers. To my great surprise I saw Clint Dempsey! I don't know why I was so surprised but I think I just kind of assumed that the USA team that played at FIFA was an actual entity.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 04:02 AM

Roll on Euro '16!

Qualifying matches start soon...

In the meantime, I'm at Trent Bridge today to see India bat for a draw.

You can't get enough sport... German Grand Prix next weekend...


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 04:02 AM

I thought it was a hard fought match. I enjoyed it.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 03:30 AM

The best thing about the World Cup: it`s over! :0P


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 07:52 PM

bobad... always the voice of reason. Me? Schweinsteiger!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: bobad
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 06:58 PM

Mesut Özil? ....Born: October 15, 1988 (age 25), Gelsenkirchen, Germany
Nationality: German

Jerome Boateng?....Born: September 3, 1988 (age 25), West Berlin
Nationality: West German, German

Shkodran Mustafi?....Born: April 17, 1992 (age 22), Bad Hersfeld, Germany
Nationality: German

Sami Kedhira?....Born: April 4, 1987 (age 27), Stuttgart, Germany
Nationality: West German, Tunisian, German

Miroslav (typical German Polish first name) Klose?....Born: June 9, 1978 (age 36), Opole, Poland
Nationality: German

Lukas Podolski (typical German Polish last name)?....Born: June 4, 1985 (age 29), Gliwice, Poland
Nationality: Polish, German


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 06:39 PM

Well.... a number of the German players had German names.... anyway, Schweinsteiger is the one I saw the most, as he seemed to be the one getting his shins kicked the most....


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: michaelr
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 06:19 PM

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 06:16 PM

I suppose that rather spectacular goal made them worthy winners. To be fair, they were the most consistent team there.

I just wish I believed that when I put money on Argentina.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 06:14 PM

Surprised that Germans have Polish names? This is what Europe looked like a bare hundred years ago.. No Poland (though many Poles.. and Ukrainians, and Czechs and Slovaks and... was it Woodrow Wilson who sadly admitted that he had not realised that there were so many small nations?


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 06:01 PM

Showpiece? Condemned out of their own mouths. A horrible, dreary game, thankfully someone managed to score a goal before the TV centred manufactured drama of penalties. South American football exposed as a sham, if the Argentinian players had been half as assiduous about kicking the ball as they did their oppoents' shins they might have done a bit better. Thnk the Lord that that's that for two years.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MudGuard
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 05:59 PM

> Interestingly, it seemed that most of the German team were actually German.

Mesut Özil?
Jerome Boateng?
Shkodran Mustafi?
Sami Kedhira?
Miroslav (typical German Polish first name) Klose?
Lukas Podolski (typical German Polish last name)?

...


But yes, OUR team has won!!!

MudGuard (happy and a little bit drunk ...)


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 05:57 PM

I would have ceased watching had it gone to kicks.
I didn't care who won, just wanted my moneys worth. Got it. Am happy.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 05:48 PM

Interestingly, it seemed that most of the German team were actually German.

And at least it was a good goal, and not luck in shootouts...


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Guest Over the bar
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 05:43 PM

German the masters, brilliant World Cup winners.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 05:38 PM

Schweinsteiger!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 02:48 PM

Here is the answer to the 'time' question. Turn on the TV now.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 12:00 PM

"Your love was dust in an old man's cup"--Leonard Cohen

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 11:58 AM

Ragdall, I have found it mainly on ESPN on cable. There has been another tv channel that broadcast a few of the matches. The commentary usually starts a half hour before the game.

MichaeltheGM, I did look up ADT and didn't find a clear answer, probably because of the 'A', which to me denotes Alaska. Thanks, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: ragdall
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 11:07 AM

Ebbie,
According to my guide on the cable, it starts about 15 minutes before that. Maybe that 15 minutes is when the coverage starts with the analysts? The start is 11:45 in BC, so 10:45 in Alaska. Is an American channel covering it, or are you able to watch on CBC?

rags


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Musket
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 07:31 AM

Yes, I suppose you are...


Argentina v Germany. Col Blimp doesn't know when to cheer....


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 06:34 AM

Ebbie

Atlantic Daylight Time

Found just by googling Wikipedia ADT, & scrolling down till I found the one that obviously fitted the case. Simple really.

luv

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 06:20 AM

Es fútbol. Se gana y se pierde. Lamentable la actuación del equipo de Brasil. Pero más lamentable es el abucheo y la tremenda presión de los locales a un equipo que llega -aunque inmerecidamente- al cuarto puesto. Es una pena.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 02:45 AM

"3 days ago ... [DATEBOOK] The World Cup concludes with the Argentina-Germany final on Sunday (3 pm ET kickoff)."

Assuming this info that I gleaned from World Cup Schedule is correct, I'll turn on my tv at 11 o'clock, Alaska time.

(gnu, I don't know what "ADT" is?)


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jul 14 - 10:09 PM

Troll.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jul 14 - 08:10 PM

Yes, I've found it to be quite a good ploy, especially when I'm having to deal with football-illiterates such as your rather sozzled self. Jayz, I know I could be doing you a mighty disservice, calling you sozzled, but just look at the recent evidence:

In sports years he is. Do the maths girlie man. And suck it up a notch. Fuck me! Play some hockey on the pond in Canada and see where your girlie ass ends up ya pussy.

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jul 14 - 07:45 PM

And you stay sober so you can insult other people at will. Twit.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jul 14 - 07:27 PM

Have another vat of freezing cold yankee "beer", minnow. :-)


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