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BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama

Don Firth 23 Feb 14 - 03:15 PM
Stilly River Sage 23 Feb 14 - 12:07 PM
Sawzaw 23 Feb 14 - 11:07 AM
Don Firth 21 Feb 14 - 10:12 PM
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GUEST 21 Feb 14 - 04:11 PM
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Jack the Sailor 21 Feb 14 - 03:26 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 21 Feb 14 - 02:02 PM
GUEST 21 Feb 14 - 12:33 AM
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Big Al Whittle 17 Feb 14 - 11:33 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 03:15 PM

Granted, hydropower, especially when it dams rivers like the Columbia, is a mixed blessing. Among other things, it cuts off the usual salmon spawning grounds, unless adequate fish ladders or other bypasses are constructed (and I believe such provisions have been made on the Columbia).

The Colville tribe definitely took a hit with the building of the Grand Coulee dam. But at the same time, the resultant reservoir provided the water to turn an otherwise pretty unproductive prairie east of the Cascades into highly productive farmland, orchards, and vineyards. But as I say, not an unmixed blessing.

A big hassle right now is the move on the coal industry to run coal trains through the Puget Sound area to ship vast quantities of the stuff to China! For one thing, they can't be bothered to pull tarps over the uncovered gondola coal cars, so clouds of coal dust blow off as the trains roll by and drift out and around wherever the trains run. Right through a couple of cities! Black lung disease, anybody!??

Then, the ultimate destination of the coal:   China!

Here is the result of all that coal that China burns to produce electrical power:    CLICKY #1. And CLICKY #2.

And this is not at dusk, it's during the DAY!

On its worst day, smog in Los Angeles runs about 93 parts per million.

In Beijing, it characteristically runs about 700+!!

If you want to see a sunrise or a sunset in Beijing, you can watch a tape they play on television ….

And given the prevailing winds, jet stream and all, and given a bit of time, we get it right back here!!

So with due apologies to the Colville indian tribe and to the Columbia River salmon, I'm glad that when I turn on the electric heater on a chilly day, I'm not requiring that someone throw another shovelful of coal into the hopper.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 12:07 PM

It's no surprise that carbon capture and storage (CSS) isn't happening, it is mostly a pipe dream by the coal industry as part of their suggestion that there is such a thing as "clean coal."
DOE's Carbon Sequestration Program is focused on geologic storage of captured CO2 that would otherwise be emitted to the atmosphere. Applied research is being conducted to develop and test different approaches to CCS. Technology testing and development through the Regional Carbon Sequestration Partnership (RCSP) Initiative and other entities will be instrumental to the commercial deployment of CCS. DOE's vision is to fully understand the available CCS options, cost factors, environmental implications, and technological options.


Don, the trouble with damming rivers in the PNW is that it clobbers cultures that were dependent upon the fish and seasonal flooding of those rivers and it submerged a lot of good agricultural land along the shorlines. The Colville reservation is one where the former fishing culture now gets their salmon in cans from the USDA. Not a happy outcome.

There aren't votes to impeach Obama, this thread was another bit of vitriol started by Songwronger. Has it run it's course?

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 11:07 AM

Hydro power is what percentage?
On average, 37% of the electricity to recharge the plug ins is produced by burning coal.

Where I live, by paying extra, you can opt in to 100% wind power. You still get the same mixture of sources but it makes you "feel good" just like the other so called environmentally friendly "feel good" activities. Like Gasohol.

Will the world build 1,200 new coal plants?
Brad Plumer Washington Post

Climate scientists have sometimes warned that it could prove impossible to avoid high levels of global warming unless the world stops building new coal-fired plants. But that's not a simple proposition. Across the globe, there are at least 1,199 coal plants now on the drawing board, according to a new report from the World Resources Institute.

Many of these proposed new plants are in China and India, which account for 76 percent of proposed capacity. Turkey and Russia also have big plans. And a growing number of coal plants are being proposed for developing countries such as Cambodia, Guatemala and Uzbekistan, nations that are looking to cut-rate sources of energy to fuel economic growth.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 10:12 PM

Grand Coulee dam, Bonneville dam, Ross dam, Snake River dam, McNary dam, etc.

Hydro power up here in the Pacific Northwest. Not only do the dams provide electrical power here, but we wind up selling electrical power to other states, such as California. Also, the dams provide irrigation for farmland, and orchards and vineyards in Washington and Oregon.

Rainfall and snowfall provide lots of water. We swim in it, fish in it, ski on it, and eventually light our houses and power our electric cars with it.

Non-polluting. No CCS required.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 04:57 PM

There is no CCS being done. It is not known if it will ever be done.
There are only approx 28,000 plug in electric cars in the US.

If you have other facts, please present them instead of your talking points and vicious ad hominem attacks.

"If we had" does not point to a fact.
"CCS could be done" is not a fact until it is being done.
Actually the use of "if" and "could" indicate things that have not happened and therefore are not of any substance.

And where are any facts to support your talking point about the deficit "was" cut in half?


Carbon Capture and Storage is a losing propositon as it is estimated to require an additional 30% to 40% of the plant's electrical output to accomplish this task. In addition, coal plants already utilize 12 to 15% of their produced energy to clean their emissions (precipitators for ash, SO2 & NOX removal for the bad GHG gasses); and they still produce volumes of GHG gasses.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 04:11 PM

Yours was a hypothetical.
If we had the electric cars, we could also do CSS.
You were dismissing the concept.
And you got caught.
You don't understand the actual issues, you repeat talking points.
You had to Google CSS didn't you?!
Of course you did.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 03:45 PM

Kindly inform this asshole where CCS IS being performed?

Also any evidence that Obama cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term in office.

Where are the million plug in cars?


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 03:26 PM

If the impeaching party has less than 60 % of the Senate, the House vote is meaningless. as are over 40 votes to defund the ACA.


Songwronger just uses news items as an excuse to tell all he doesn't like the President.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 02:02 PM

What an idiotic thread. Caution- mental defectives at work.

Any president may be impeached by a hostile House of Representatives, but the trial is conducted in the Senate. If the president (or other government official) has a friendly majority in the Senate, the House vote is meaningless.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 12:33 AM

"what is the major source of the electricity to charge these mythical cars? Coal which is creates more pollution and C02 than gasoline."

But it is generated at a centralized location where CCS can be performed (try chasing millions of cars around with hoses), and the night time charging provides energy saving load balancing. Don't spew talking points on subjects you know nothing about asshole.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 12:26 AM

At Monday's news conference, President ***** angrily denied that he is using unchecked or dictatorial powers. But how else can you characterize his behavior? What tyrant hasn't claimed the need to use extra legal powers to protect the motherland or fatherland from some threat? How much Orwellian doublespeak can this coun-try tolerate?


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 01:37 PM

Its Nuclear where I live.
and more and more coal plants are being replaced by natural gas and renewable sources.

You get points for trying though.
At least you are giving a 2008 response to a 2008 speech.

Did President Obama to get to implement all of the policies with regards to energy? If the carbon tax had passed. That vision would probably be a reality.

Also,

"We'll commit ourselves" isn't the same as saying "This will happen or Sawzaw will get to say "I told you so."


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 12:38 PM

2008 "First, we'll commit ourselves to getting one million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrid cars on our roads within six years. And we'll make sure these cars are built not in Japan, not in China, but right here in the United States of America." And the crowd cheers.

what is the major source of the electricity to charge these mythical cars? Coal which is creates more pollution and C02 than gasoline.
Sierra Club: "A caveat to consider is that when coal plants supply the majority of the power in a given area, electric vehicles may emit more CO2 and SO2 pollution than hybrid electric vehicles."
In 2012, the United States generated about 4,054 billion kilowatthours of electricity. About 68% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuel. 37% from coal

A moot point because there are only 1an estimated 28,806 EVs in the US as of 6 November 2013, Slightly short of the 1 million Mr Obama's is committed to.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 12:03 PM

"We're going to punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends"

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"

"I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow* when you could afford it."

*benzoylmethylecgonine AKA Coke, Cocaine

Should Bush be impeached?:
"Not because he is a now-dry alcoholic, cocaine user, slow to learn, messianic born-again beanwad and a pseudo-Christo fascist, but because he broke the law, lied and has lost the people's trust as well as having besmirched the good name of America around the globe."


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 05:41 PM

The buttercup wasn't directed at you--or anyone else for that matter--Elmore. Improper use of an old expression for which I apologize.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Greg F.
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 12:08 PM

The House also has the votes to deny climate change and support creationism.

The Repubs are a bunch of fundagelical morons; have been for decades.

This is NEWS?


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 11:33 AM

its not the fact that Obama is being criticised - or abused even. its the nature of the abuse that is discomfiting - it sounds racist and scary.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Elmore
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 10:37 AM

buttercup?


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 09:10 AM

There will always be people who don't like the president for one reason or other, some reasons justified and others not. Hence the Secret Service. That said, just because a person is elected to an office doesn't mean that s/he's automatically worthy of respect; nor is the office. Respect comes with accomplishment. There was little worthy of respect in Bush's reign, and many people think not much worthy of respect in Obama's reign. Suck it up, buttercup. Such is life.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Elmore
Date: 17 Feb 14 - 08:50 AM

The President has been treated with disrespect by all sorts of politicians, talk show hosts, and know nothings since he first took office. Couldn't be racial prejudice, could it?


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Feb 14 - 02:38 PM

"just call it I don't like Mr Obama."

It would be very nice, more honest and much less impolite if he did.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Feb 14 - 02:21 PM

this is a weird thread.
maybe you should just call it I don't like Mr Obama.
If he were guilty of half the things you say, he would be in jail. The United Nations would insist on his removal and the US's suspension from the UN.

and do you really think there is some question about his citizenship?

god knows we've had crooks and murderers as prime minister, and before that as kings of England. I don't think we ever had one that gave every appearance of being a decent human being (like Mr Obama does) at the same as being a villain.

focus! songwronger - if you've got something to say , say it! not a bullshit connection to an obvious gang of bullshitters.
And before that ....SERIOUSLY, do you think he's not American?


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 10:05 PM

"Today I'm pledging to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term in office."

And he did. Look it up asshole.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 10:42 AM

The thread title is old news and it is disrespectful of the Office of the President and therefor impolite. Furthermore, it is apparent that the purpose of this thread is to express hatred for the President by the original poster.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 09:53 AM

I have spent time tracking down various posts cut and pasted by Songwronger. I might have some sympathy with those he chooses to use as support for his ideas had those same people been after George Bush with the same fervor. But whoa, such is not the case. Subsequently, I have come to think 'thou doth protest too much' Songwronger. You have an agenda I do not share.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Elmore
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 01:08 AM

SW gets his information from some schmuck named Dr. Robert Owens who writes for the Conservative Action Alert, a rag that wouldn't even make good toilet paper. Check it out.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 10:14 PM

Don't get your hopes up, Bunky. It'll get about as far as the nearest waste basket.

Where it belongs.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Songwronger
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 09:57 PM

Bombshell: National Black Republican Association Files Articles of Impeachment Against Barack Obama (aka Barry Soetoro)

A conservative black citizens group, the National Black Republican Association (NBRA), has filed detailed articles of impeachment against Barack Obama, calling for his removal from office over the National Security Agency spying program, the prosecution of whistleblowers, wiretapping journalists, his torture program and the cover-up of Benghazi.

Though the group associates itself with Republicans, many of the articles referenced deal with activities that the Obama administration has engaged in with the full support of establishment Republicans, such as the NSA spying programs, illegal torture and treatment of whistleblowers like Edward Snowden.

"We, black American citizens, in order to free ourselves and our fellow citizens from governmental tyranny do herewith submit these Articles of Impeachment to Congress for the removal of President Barack H. Obama, aka, Barry Soetoro, from office for his attack on liberty and commission of egregious acts of despotism that constitute high crimes and misdemeanors," the articles begin....

ARTICLE 1

He has covered up, delayed, impeded and obstructed the investigation of the Benghazi Battle.

ARTICLE 3

He has authorized and permitted the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, a division of the Justice Department, to conduct Operation Fast and Furious...

ARTICLE 4

He has authorized and permitted confidential income tax returns information from the Internal Revenue Service to be provided to unauthorized individuals, organizations and agencies.

ARTICLE 5

He has caused investigations and audits to be initiated or conducted by the Internal Revenue Service in a discriminatory manner...

ARTICLE 6

He has (1) authorized and permitted the National Security Agency to conduct or continue electronic surveillance of over 300 million average Americans...

ARTICLE 7

He has authorized and permitted the Department of Justice to wiretap and secretly obtain two months of telephone and e-mail records of Fox News Reporter James Rosen and over one hundred Associated Press journalists....

ARTICLE 8

He has thwarted Congress by (1) failing to enforce all or parts of laws duly enacted by Congress, including the Defense of Marriage Act, the No Child Left Behind Act, and the Affordable Care Act...

ARTICLE 10

He has intimidated whistleblowers and brought twice as many prosecutions against whistleblowers as all prior presidents combined. Egregiously, while refusing to prosecute anyone for actual torture, he prosecuted former Central Intelligence Agency employee John Kiriakou for disclosing the torture program....

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/08/bombshell-national-black-republican-association-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-barack-o


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 10:36 AM

Back to thrashing in the grip of a multitude of virulent delusions, ShitWringer.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Elmore
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 10:25 AM

Failure to fulfill a campaign pledge is not an impeachable offense.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 11:17 PM

"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child.

That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic."

Hmmmmm $9t to $17T? Number 44 has added $8 trillion dollars by his lonesome in only 5 years. Is that unpatriotic?

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 14 Feb 2014 at 03:44:25 AM GMT is:
$ 17,261,737,813,647.09

The estimated population of the United States is 317,637,292
so each citizen's share of this debt is $54,344.18. Why that's 180% increase ain't it?

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$2.38 billion per day since September 30, 2012!

"Today I'm pledging to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term in office."


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Songwronger
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 08:17 PM

Obama has run guns to Mexico and assisted in the murder of thousands in the Mexican drug war.

Obama has used the IRS to harrass political opponents. This was one of the charges that brought Nixon down. And they didn't have real proof on Nixon. Tons of proof on Obama.

The NSA spy network. Unconstitutional but embraced and expanded by Obama, the "law professor."

Torture, drone murders of babies abroad, drone murders of American citizens, starving of American children with cuts to social programming (genocide), robbing millions of Americans of health insurance while he knowingly lied about it.

Lots of charges. Take your pick.

What's lacking is the initiation of the proceedings. Apparently no one in our one-party fascist political system is willing to kick things off, but Barr will. Pretty sad when you have to look to a scumbag like Barr to do the right thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: kendall
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 04:35 PM

They may have the votes, now, all they need is charges.

High crimes and misdemeanors.What has he done that qualifies?

Being black, no
Being a democrat, no
Being forced to change his mind on a few things, no

What's left?


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 04:01 PM

What a guy! Instead of calling him a flip-flopper, I guess one might admire his willingness to learn as he goes along.

From Wikipedia- and there's lots more there:

"He (Bob Barr) authored and sponsored the Defense of Marriage Act, a law enacted in 1996 which states that only marriages that are between a man and a woman can be federally recognized, and individual states may choose not to recognize a same-sex marriage performed in another state.[53] At the 2008 Libertarian National Convention, he apologized for the part of the Defense of Marriage Act which prevents the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages.[54]...He now supports same-sex marriage,[55] opposes the Federal Marriage Amendment, contending it is a violation of states' rights,[56] and supports the Respect for Marriage Act, which would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act.[57]

Terrorism
He voted for the first USA PATRIOT Act,[58] but only after his amendments adding "sunset clauses" were added to the final bill.[59]...He now publicly regrets[34] his Patriot Act vote.[61] ]

Controversies over Barr's personal conduct
In 1999, during Clinton's impeachment trial(which he led, Eb comment), Hustler publisher Larry Flynt offered money to anyone who could provide evidence that a prominent Republican had engaged in an extramarital affair. According to the American Journalism Review,[74] investigators for Flynt said that Barr was "guilty of king-size hypocrisy". In accordance with his public offer: Flynt subsequently paid a sum of money to Gail Barr after she had made a sworn affidavit.[14] Investigators reported that Barr invoked a legal privilege during his 1985 divorce proceeding, so he could refuse to answer questions on whether he'd cheated on his second wife with the woman who is now his third."[75]

In the 2004 presidential election, Barr left the Republican Party and publicly endorsed[82] the Libertarian Party presidential nominee Michael Badnarik.[83] ... Following his statement that he would not challenge the Republican incumbent in the 2012 primary race for Georgia's 14th congressional district, he subsequently indicated his return to the Republican Party...

In Congress, Barr's strong stance against medical marijuana put him at odds with marijuana policy reformers such as the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP). Despite this historic antagonism, in March 2007, Barr reversed his stance on medical marijuana[89] and began lobbying on behalf of MPP.[90][91] This new partnership saw Barr working to repeal his very own "Barr Amendment"[88] – the amendment[89] that overturned a voter-approved medical marijuana initiative in Washington, D.C.[90] and bars consideration of similar initiatives.[92]

On November 4, 2008 (as a presidential candidate), Barr received 523,686 votes, 0.4% of the national vote[133]


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: GUEST,jts
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 01:58 PM

I think Oprah will be the choice!

Biden Winfrey 2016!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Elmore
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 01:52 PM

Joe Biden will make an excellent president after Bob Barr forces President Obama out of the White House. Perhaps Joe will name Michelle as his Vice President.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Wesley S
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 10:16 AM

From 2011:

Bob Barr to Aid Jean-Claude 'Baby Doc' Duvalier in Haiti

CNN reports that

A former U.S. congressman was among a group of American attorneys accompanying former Haitian dictator Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier as he spoke in the country's capital Friday.

Former Republican Congressman Bob Barr said he is not serving as Duvalier's attorney, but is in Port-au-Prince to consult, assist and be Duvalier's voice to the international community.

Barr represented Georgia's 7th District in the U. S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003, and was the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee in 2008. He currently practices law and runs a consulting firm based in Atlanta.

According to Channel 11 in Atlanta,

Jean Claude "Baby Doc' Duvalier has returned to the country after 25 years of exile.

The Duvalier family ruled Haiti as their own personal fiefdom for 30 years.

They did so with a secret police force and all the tools the dictatorship could muster against its impoverished citizens

Four days ago "Baby Doc", the son of "Papa Doc", returned to Port Au Prince from exile in France.

He is now facing human rights abuse charges and needs some good representation. Enter Marger and Barr.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 08:35 AM

thrashing in the grip of a virulent delusion

ShitWringer's in good company, then, with the majority of Republicans in the House.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 08:08 AM

This brings to mind a scene from The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot! Don't talk."


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Amos
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 11:17 PM

SOngwronger, how do you ever find out when you are thrashing int he grip of a virulent delusion? WOuld it be possible to compare your predictions with actual events and noticing that they never match, discover a clue to the restoration of your sanity?

I surely hope so.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 10:52 PM

Isn't Barr the whacko who built a diorama in his backyard that proved that Hilary murdered Vince Foster? Sounds like your kind of guy, Wrongo.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Songwronger
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 10:38 PM

Bob Barr is campaigning for a return to the House of Representatives. He initiated the impeachment of Bill Clinton. I don't like Barr, but it looks like it'll take a fascist to get rid of a fascist:

ALEX JONES: I think what you're hinting at is if we put you back into Congress, you are going to start investigating bringing charges of impeachment up in the House?

BOB BARR: Alex, I was with some folks just recently and pulled out of a file in my office the House resolution, the House resolution that I introduced on November fifth of 1997 that was the very first official inquiry of impeachment filed against Bill Clinton and that was mine. And at the time I think I had 18 co-sponsors was all, in November of 1997. And what I did is I took that document, figuratively kind of dusted it off, added a little bit of language to it and darned if it doesn't sound pretty good with Barack Obama's name in there.

JONES: Oh man. So I think it's safe to say when you get back in Congress, the evidence is already there, you're going to start looking at the inquiry to begin looking for co-sponsors for indicting the president in the House, and I guess he will be tried in the Senate?

BARR: I think it really has come to that. It's not something I like to say. When I left the House before after we impeached Clinton, you know, my hope was we wouldn't have to go through that process again. But we do. Mr. President, you are not above the law.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/01/29/bob_barr_is_ready_to_impeach_another_president.html

Obama recently told French President Hollande, "That's the good thing as a president, I can do whatever I want." He's wrong about that. If Barr has his way, Obama will be impeached. The Senate might vote to convict him too, because he's so toxic right now. The important thing about the whole affair wouldn't be the simple removal of flunky Obama, but the exposure of the banking crimes he helped perpetrate against the American people. And the gun-running murders in Mexico, and the use of the IRS to target political opponents, and so on. Once all of that is revealed, the U.S. government can begin to right itself.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Sep 13 - 12:10 AM

Aw, heck...an administration of apes is really what's needed to clean up Washington and end these stupid wars. Chimps are smart, so put them in charge of the decision-making. Orangutans are fastidious perfectionists who love Nature, so put them in charge of the environment and the economy. Use the Gorillas and Baboons for security....you'd hardly notice the difference from the way it is at present! ;-D And the monkeys? Well, they could serve as the clerical workers and could also fill out the press corps. Monkeys LOVE asking questions. Imagine the scrum when Chongo meets the press.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 Sep 13 - 10:56 PM

Nurse. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Songwronger
Date: 04 Sep 13 - 10:30 PM

Yes, Chongo, there is a Satan Clause.

If Obama goes down, Biden will go with him. And the new president would be fascist Speaker of the House John Boehner.

Obama's some kind of Bill Ayers / Charles Manson Communist who uses fascist tactics to accomplish his agenda, but Boehner is a certified fascist. America would fall to the Hitlerites instead of the Hitler Lites, but whattayougonnado?

Obama needs to be impeached. Get rid of the backdoor fascists and then face the ones coming in the front door.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Sep 13 - 01:00 AM

Okay, say Obama gets impeached. Successfully.

Then we have Biden as president.

Further major screwups follow. A call is made to impeach Biden!

And it succeeds.

Then what?

Okay then we get some other flunky to take Biden's place.

Further screwups occur.

A call is made to impeach whoever replaced Biden!

Total confusion!

But wait! A saviour steps forward at this time of constitutional crisis! Chongo Chimp announces that HE will take over, disband both the Democratic and Republican parties and make them illegal!!!!!!!!

Hundreds of millions of grateful citizens pour into the streets at this incredibly good news and appoint Chongo the first American Ape Emperor for Life by acclamation!!!!!!!!!!!

Bananas drop by 5 cents a pound!

Mangos aren't allowed into the stores until they are actually RIPE! Jubilation greets this incredible news.

Chongo declares an end to all USA military interventions in any and all foreign nations and starts closing down all USA military bases in foreign lands. Drone strikes cease. The Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines come home....and start doing what they are really there for...protecting the USA itself instead of invading, terrorizing, and fucking up other countries on behalf of big energy corporations.

Chongo shuts down the largest banks, ends fractional reserve lending, nationalizes those banks, and puts the dollar back on the gold and silver standard.

At this point several attempts are made by mysterious persons to assassinate Chongo. They all fail. Chongo promptly arrests 9,000 of the richest bankers and billionares in the USA and sends them to work harvesting bananas in Costa Rica, slaving in the jungle heat for a dollar a day, just like the locals do.

Things start to quiet down stateside....except on Mudcat Cafe, where the same old battles and personal vendettas rage on....and on...and on.

Ah well....even Chongo doesn't have the answer to EVERYTHING! ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Songwronger
Date: 03 Sep 13 - 11:57 PM

Black American citizens file "Articles of Impeachment" against Obama

The National Black Republican Association (NBRA) based in Sarasota, FL, headed by Chairman Frances Rice, filed Articles of Impeachment against President Barack Obama with the following language:

"We, black American citizens, in order to free ourselves and our fellow citizens from governmental tyranny, do herewith submit these Articles of Impeachment to Congress for the removal of President Barack H. Obama, aka, Barry Soetoro, from office for his attack on liberty and commission of egregious acts of despotism that constitute high crimes and misdemeanors."

ARTICLE 1

He has covered up, delayed, impeded and obstructed the investigation of the Benghazi Battle.

ARTICLE 3

He has authorized and permitted the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, a division of the Justice Department, to conduct Operation Fast and Furious, wherein guns were sold to Mexican drug trafficking organizations...

ARTICLE 4

He has authorized and permitted confidential income tax returns information from the Internal Revenue Service to be provided to unauthorized individuals, organizations and agencies....

ARTICLE 6

He has authorized and permitted the National Security Agency to conduct or continue electronic surveillance of over 300 million average Americans...

ARTICLE 7

He has authorized and permitted the Department of Justice to wiretap and secretly obtain two months of telephone and e-mail records of Fox News Reporter James Rosen...

http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2013/08/13/black-american-citizens-file-articles-of-impeachment-against-obama/


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Sep 13 - 04:56 PM

The French say they will back Obama and the U.S. if Congress gives the okay for military action.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: Elmore
Date: 03 Sep 13 - 10:43 AM

So,first Congress is going to support the President on Syria (which they will), then they're going to impeach him? Not likely.


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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Sep 13 - 03:59 AM

Sorry Don, but I think SW may be right here.

Mr Obama appears to be ramping up the MO for an attack on Syria to gain the support of right wing Republicans like McCain, to carry the vote in Congress.
He now seems to be promoting himself as a "war leader" to get back some personal credibility. If this is indeed the case, then Mr Obama is not what you and others imagined him to be.

It was supposed to be very limited strikes as a punishment for using chemical weapons(not yet proven), now it begins to feel like all out war, or at least "regime change"

Very dangerous territory!


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