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BS: Obamacare = Genocide

GUEST 08 Oct 13 - 07:59 PM
Andrez 07 Oct 13 - 11:46 PM
Don Firth 07 Oct 13 - 11:22 PM
Songwronger 07 Oct 13 - 10:38 PM
Bobert 07 Oct 13 - 08:29 PM
Don Firth 07 Oct 13 - 08:26 PM
Songwronger 07 Oct 13 - 08:02 PM
Bobert 07 Oct 13 - 07:11 PM
Songwronger 07 Oct 13 - 06:41 PM
Songwronger 10 Sep 13 - 11:59 PM
Songwronger 06 Jun 13 - 07:05 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 01 Apr 13 - 01:48 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 01 Apr 13 - 01:28 PM
Jack the Sailor 01 Apr 13 - 02:03 AM
Ebbie 01 Apr 13 - 01:43 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 31 Mar 13 - 08:30 PM
Ebbie 31 Mar 13 - 06:48 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 31 Mar 13 - 05:59 PM
Joe Offer 31 Mar 13 - 04:58 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 31 Mar 13 - 03:56 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 31 Mar 13 - 01:49 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 31 Mar 13 - 01:48 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 31 Mar 13 - 01:46 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 31 Mar 13 - 01:29 PM
Don Firth 30 Mar 13 - 06:34 PM
cujimmy 30 Mar 13 - 06:07 PM
Greg F. 30 Mar 13 - 05:23 PM
Don Firth 30 Mar 13 - 01:54 PM
Jack the Sailor 30 Mar 13 - 01:29 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 30 Mar 13 - 03:03 AM
Jack the Sailor 29 Mar 13 - 09:52 PM
Don Firth 29 Mar 13 - 09:50 PM
Ebbie 29 Mar 13 - 09:34 PM
Songwronger 29 Mar 13 - 09:32 PM
Don Firth 29 Mar 13 - 06:13 PM
Jack the Sailor 29 Mar 13 - 04:54 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 29 Mar 13 - 03:49 PM
Greg F. 29 Mar 13 - 09:50 AM
Bobert 29 Mar 13 - 09:10 AM
GUEST,TIA 29 Mar 13 - 01:18 AM
GUEST,TIA 29 Mar 13 - 01:13 AM
Jack the Sailor 28 Mar 13 - 11:57 PM
Jack the Sailor 28 Mar 13 - 11:52 PM
Jack the Sailor 28 Mar 13 - 11:51 PM
GUEST 28 Mar 13 - 11:19 PM
Songwronger 28 Mar 13 - 11:06 PM
GUEST,TIA 28 Mar 13 - 11:02 PM
GUEST 28 Mar 13 - 10:51 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Oct 13 - 07:59 PM

To argue with this waste of space is like playing a violin in front of an Ox.
A recent poll indicates that many people were asked which was better, Obama Care or the Affordable health care act. They all said The affordable care act. SAME THING, STUPID!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Andrez
Date: 07 Oct 13 - 11:46 PM

DF and others tempted to engage with the author of this thread. Please do us a favour and simply stop engaging with him and let this waste of a space thread die a sad and unlamented death. Please!

Cheers,

Andre


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Oct 13 - 11:22 PM

When that happens, Songwronger, I will apologize.

But until it does, see what you can do about a brain transplant, okay?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Songwronger
Date: 07 Oct 13 - 10:38 PM

Firth and Bobert at their cogent best. The apex of liberal debate.

So, have you geezers done the math yet on Obamacare? You HAVE to buy health insurance now, so what's it going to cost you? Will you be eating dog food this time next year because of the "Affordable Care Act?" I hope so. That Obamadope has put both of you in a sound sleep. You need some dog food and cold water showers in the winter to wake you up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Oct 13 - 08:29 PM

You have Ronald Reagan to thank for folks like the wrongman, Don... There were times when these delusional mentally ill people were getting treatment where they belonged... No more... They are out bothering sane people...

Oh well???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Oct 13 - 08:26 PM

JAYSUS!!

Nurse, take him back to his padded cell!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Songwronger
Date: 07 Oct 13 - 08:02 PM

Exactly. The details of humanity's extinction bore "liberals." Obama's a fascist working to undo the legacy of FDR and LBJ, and you just wish he'd get it done. Go ahead and kill people off for "the good of the planet" or whatever insane reason you have for justifying fascism.

Obama is working with the Tea Party. Repeat. Obama is working with the Tea Party. They both want the same thing, to reduce retirement incomes and healthcare so that the poor die off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Oct 13 - 07:11 PM

((( yawn )))


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Songwronger
Date: 07 Oct 13 - 06:41 PM

US budget and debt talks to focus on cutting Social Security, Medicare

...Spokesmen for the Obama administration and congressional Republicans indicated Sunday they were preparing to shift the focus of the ongoing Washington budget and debt discussions to the major entitlement programs, Social Security and Medicare.

Both the Democrats and the Republicans are using the partial shutdown of federal government operations and the looming October 17 deadline for raising the federal debt ceiling, to create a crisis atmosphere to justify cuts that are overwhelmingly opposed by the American people....

...Neither party proposes even the slightest incursion into the wealth of the financial aristocracy. Both of them blame the dismal fiscal projections for the federal budget on "demographic" factors. In other words, working people are living too long, a "problem" which can only be resolved by raising the retirement age or, as a consequence of cuts in healthcare and living standards more generally, engineering a reduction in life expectancy.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/07/budg-o07.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Songwronger
Date: 10 Sep 13 - 11:59 PM

Obamacare is turning America into a land of part-time jobs. People are suffering on account of it. From another forum:

I just received a letter from my job stating that no one will be working more than 30 hours a week.

I normally worked 48-52 hours per week generating 40 hours of regular pay, and 8-12 hours of overtime. Each hour I work averages an ADDITIONAL $11.25 in tips.

This means each week I will now be losing (20)(11.25) + (10)(10.50) + (10)(16.25) dollars per week.

I will now be losing an average of $492.50 per week.

This is nearly $2,000 per month.

Almost $24,000 a year ($23,640)

I can no longer afford my own private healthcare coverage --- thanks to Obamacare.

I will also have to find a second job, and DROP two classes at Stony Brook University.

So now I will make less money, work more hours, and it will take longer to complete my degree.

My life has been ruined by the parasites.

Obamacare just ruined my life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Songwronger
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 07:05 PM

From the World Socialist Website:

US health reform to slash care, leave millions uninsured

With the full implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) less than seven months away, mounting evidence demonstrates that the health care reform signed into law by President Barack Obama in 2010 will result in deep cutbacks in medical care, while raising costs for the vast majority of ordinary Americans.

At the same time, millions of the uninsured who were promised health coverage will be left out in the cold altogether. While working families and the poor face an uncertain future as far as their health care is concerned, private insurance companies are gearing up for steep increases in premiums as the medical benefits provided under their policies shrink.

The Obama administration's health care overhaul will also reduce reimbursements to Medicare by more than $700 billion over 10 years, forcing drastic cutbacks to medical services and treatments for millions of American seniors that rely on the government program....

...individuals in about 90 percent of US states would likely face "significant premium increases." Based on responses from 17 insurance companies, the report estimates that individuals purchasing coverage on the individual market could face average premium increases of nearly 100 percent, with potential increases of 400 percent....

All the major players in the overhaul of the health care system—the corporations and health care industry, the Democratic Party and their supporters in the trade unions—have perpetrated what can only be called a conspiracy against the American people. They have attempted to pass off as a reform legislation that will reduce care and benefits and leave millions of people uninsured and impoverished.

Any nominally progressive component of the legislation has been long-since ripped away, leaving behind a contorted patchwork of rules and regulations that serve one main purpose: to slash costs for the government and corporations and boost the profits of the privately owned health care corporations, which already rake in $200 billion a year in profits.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 01:48 PM

Correction, (First paragraph, second line): "....the article said it was don't...", should read, "the article said it was DOESN'T..."

Sorry...

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 01:28 PM

I thought that rather amusing....but I don't recall seeing monkeys or chimp, (Chongo may be exempt), carrying wallets..and the article said it was don't sometimes for 'boom-boom'....my original statement said, ".....AND the only species on the planet who uses money to eat and stay alive!"

Now, if there were 'pimp-chimps' who controlled the money, or bananas for a fee, maybe they would have a series of high tech clubs to beat down the competition, to enforce the law of banana distribution...then, the competition would need their own set to not be bullied unnecessarily ...then the 'pimp-chimps' would want to take them all away from the peasant chimps....hmmm, sounds familiar, doesn't it???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 02:03 AM

Here ya go Ebbie. Animal Barter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 01:43 AM

Like birds, for instance. Many breeds.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 08:30 PM

Like who???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 06:48 PM

Man may be the only species who uses money for advancement but there are many, many species who use their own form of barter. We are not alone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 05:59 PM

Here's one for ya', Joe....man is the only species on the planet who uses guns.....AND the only species on the planet who uses money to eat and stay alive!
I suppose when the need for one goes, the other will, too, as long as there will be the manipulators at the top, who just must have a piece of everybody's action!!
Everybody's fighting over the way money is handled....no wonder the manipulators at the top want everyone disarmed!
As for me, I just play music....and type stuff on here!

Regards...and Happy Resurrection Day!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 04:58 PM

Well, let's see if we can make good use of Songwronger's logic:

He says that giving people the opportunity to obtain contraceptives is genocide.

What about allowing them the opportunity to own guns?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 03:56 PM

What's the matter??..Nobody wants to touch this one with a ten foot modem???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 01:49 PM

typo..'usually'

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 01:48 PM

They usiually do...by the way, to get this piece of crap passed, this bill is being very quietly slipped into the Democratic Budget proposal!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 01:46 PM

Obama sell us out again.
Why am I not surprised?
I'm sure our Obama supporters can justify it.
They can justify most anything if they put their pretty little heads to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 01:29 PM

Now I know I ruffle some feathers, of the phony left from the bogus notion that today's 'so-called liberals' are not really wolves, in sheep's clothing, and really are more fascist than they would ever admit....but:
Looky at what the corporate, 'so-called liberals' have been doing..

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Mar 13 - 06:34 PM

From a book review:
The theme of John Brunner's 1969 Hugo Award winning novel, Stand on Zanzibar is overpopulation and its projected consequences. The title refers to an early twentieth-century claim that the world's population could fit onto the Isle of Wight – which has an area of 381 square kilometres (147 sq mi) – if they were all standing upright. Brunner remarked that the growing world population now required a larger island; the 3.5 billion people living in 1968 could stand together on the Isle of Man (area 572 square kilometres (221 sq mi)), while the 7 billion people who he (correctly) projected would be alive in 2010 would need to stand on Zanzibar (area 1,554 square kilometres (600 sq mi)).

Throughout the book, the image of the entire human race standing shoulder-to-shoulder on a small island is a metaphor for an increasingly overcrowded world.
THIS is the world that Songwronger would impose on US!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: cujimmy
Date: 30 Mar 13 - 06:07 PM

Here's a wee song which explains things perfectly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8fheDIG_RA


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Greg F.
Date: 30 Mar 13 - 05:23 PM

Kinda like the guy in "Summertime Blues".


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Mar 13 - 01:54 PM

If Songwronger genuinely feels like he has a legitimate complaint, why is he whining and moaning here on Mudcat?

Why doesn't he take his complaint directly to the United Nations?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Mar 13 - 01:29 PM

Ditto troll.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 30 Mar 13 - 03:03 AM

I approve Songwronger's message.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 09:52 PM

That's a very progressive hospital you live in Songrwonger, allowing you access to the internet in your condition. Call Nurse Ratchet. She'll give you something to calm you down.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 09:50 PM

INSANE!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 09:34 PM

pppffffttttt


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Songwronger
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 09:32 PM

Finally, something we can all agree on. Intent to destroy.

Of course, most of you will blame it on the "other party," but again, Obamacare is a construct of both major parties and all branches of the federal government.

Obama and his predecessors in the oval office have shown an undeniable intent to destroy the nation. As have congress and the supreme court. Obamacare is a continuation of the intentional destruction of America by its lawmakers.

That was easy.

So now we have the fact that birth control has been imposed on America via the Obamacare tax, and the fact that the perpetrators of the tax have demonstrated an intent to destroy the nation. Obamacare still = Genocide.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 06:13 PM

Jack's got it about right.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 04:54 PM

The middle class is in trouble no matter what the government does. It has been shrinking since the 1960's. In the 50's one working man's income could support a middle class family.

The oil shocks under Nixon and Carter and the burden from Vietnam both in terms of taxation and confidence put the middle class under serious stress. Then there was competition from Japan, corporate globalization, Aging baby boomers, decline in interest in science education. Etc, etc...

I think that the Democrats want to do all that is feasible in the modern world economy to protect the middle class. But global factors may lead to diminished returns at this point.

The GOP plans of austerity and providing tax breaks to people who are not spending the added disposable income in this economy and who are investing it elsewhere, and also to decline to invest in infrastructure and education are insane.

I give the Democrats a "D" grade say 60 out of a hundred

I give the GOP less than zero, say minus 30.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 03:49 PM

The intent to destroy the middle and working classes has been apparent to me ever since the dark days of Ronald Reagan.
I wish I could be as complacently unaware of these things as you are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 09:50 AM

But much more importantly, does Genocare = Obamacide?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 09:10 AM

This thread is beginning to remind me of a saying from the 60s: "What if they called for a war and no one showed up?"

Yes, it's easy to get sucked into these delusional and mindless hate threads of Songwronger but what makes for 200+ posts are the folks who bother to take it upon themselves to participate in his insanity...

I am also reminded of something that a clinical psychologist once told me, "You can't reason with the insane"...

Think I'll just make this my last post here...

Bye...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 01:18 AM

Guest -
It makes it difficult to have a conversation when people are anonymous.
Songwronger played the Hitler Card.
I was not talking to you (whoever you might be).
I actually totally agree with your 28 Mar 13 - 10:17 PM post.
I have seen it too.
Up close.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 01:13 AM

Hahaha
Okay guest. Now you win. Hitler never happened.
My mother-in-law will be so pleased to learn that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Mar 13 - 11:57 PM

with intent to destroy,

Aren't we done here.

Until Mr. Songwronger and NB can prove the "intent to destroy," lease ignore them.

They have wasted enough time already because of their poor reading and comprehension skills. Right?"

Thanks Don Firth for the actual text, not edited by person or person's unnamed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Mar 13 - 11:52 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Mar 13 - 11:51 PM

with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,
with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,
with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,
with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,
with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,
with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,
with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,
with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 13 - 11:19 PM

TIA, that is a most disgusting thing to say. You win. Hitler never happened. Goodbye.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: Songwronger
Date: 28 Mar 13 - 11:06 PM

See, you liberals are trapped in a cult of personality. You think I'm talking about Obama. I'm not. I'm talking about ObamaCARE. Obamacare is a construct of both parties and all branches of our government. It bears Obama's name, but I am not talking about Obama.

And yes, Obamacare is forcing birth control on me and my national group. Through the use of forced taxes to be spent on birth control, said birth control is being IMPOSED on us as a national group. None of the gibberations I've read here can refute that. The equation remains intact. Obamacare = Genocide.

Goosestep back to school, kids. I know third graders who understand what's under discussion here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 28 Mar 13 - 11:02 PM

Nice try
Everyone knows you did
You tried to do it with "deniability" but we are not stupid
You lose


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 13 - 10:51 PM

You mentioned Hitler, TIA, not me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 28 Mar 13 - 10:25 PM

Playing the Hitler Card=Knowing you've lost the argument


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Subject: RE: BS: Obamacare = Genocide
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 13 - 10:17 PM

TV's done most of that.

Sixty-five years ago the world still had enough propensity for shame to consider it might be found out. The camps from eight years earlier were a scar on the body of nations. Now, we do the same damned thing and don't care.

like a man without a home
like a dog without a bone
like a kid without a phone

lost

As a child I looked at pictures of people dumped in piles, heaps of bones, human cruelty propagated by political philosophies. Years later, when I thought we'd become better as a world, I saw the killing fields, and then yet again the Rwandans mass-murdering other Rwandans and a world doing fuck all about it. Politicians like Clinton 'letting it go'. Good people arguing a few years back that "why should a blow job be a big deal" when bigger things were at stake, and so many of us agreeing.

Fact One: We, the people of this earth, are being exterminated.
Fact two: We, the people of this earth are doing fuck all about it.

We will die happy with no regard for our children. We're way beyond that.

Obama does not equal genocide. We do, and we allow it to happen.


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