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Australian gun control

kendall 24 Jan 13 - 02:28 PM
kendall 25 Jan 13 - 09:39 AM
Pete Jennings 25 Jan 13 - 09:44 AM
GUEST,999 25 Jan 13 - 09:55 AM
kendall 25 Jan 13 - 10:36 AM
ragdall 25 Jan 13 - 11:01 AM
GUEST,999 25 Jan 13 - 11:02 AM
Sandra in Sydney 25 Jan 13 - 10:47 PM
kendall 26 Jan 13 - 06:19 AM
Sandra in Sydney 26 Jan 13 - 07:48 AM
Stringsinger 26 Jan 13 - 09:35 AM
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GUEST,999 26 Jan 13 - 06:19 PM
kendall 26 Jan 13 - 07:54 PM
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Shimbo Darktree 27 Jan 13 - 12:12 AM
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Subject: Australian gun control
From: kendall
Date: 24 Jan 13 - 02:28 PM

All you folks in OZ, what do you think of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=fGaDAThOHhA


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: kendall
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 09:39 AM

What, no one interested in NRA lies?


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 09:44 AM

At 2.08 there's a Member of Parliament called Graham Gunn!


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: GUEST,999
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 09:55 AM

"What, no one interested in NRA lies?"

I'm sure many people are; however, you addressed the thread to Australians.


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: kendall
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 10:36 AM

Not really. I'd like to know if there is any truth to this. It looks like old news to me that was debunked some time ago.


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: ragdall
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 11:01 AM

Video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=fGaDAThOHhA


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: GUEST,999
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 11:02 AM

"WesternVoices7 1 month ago
The Zionists are deliberately destroying all Western countries! They immigrated into our nations & then secretly declared war upon us!
They conspired to take control of our nation's infrastructure through carefully orchestrated acts of TREASON! They became our Bankers, Politicians & media owners. Their goal is to obliterate the middle class!!
For a FREE informative BOOKLET & video on the Zionist-engineered INTENTIONAL destruction of Western civilization go to:"


That is the opening post on the video you linked which is on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPntqND_fgs


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 10:47 PM

I'm having a lot of trouble finding Australian sources, most are from US. I've looked on Govt sites (ABS -Recorded Crime - Victims - 2011 (latest edition)) & NSW (state) Recorded Crime Stats, Sept 12 (latest edition) but can't find enough info. I'll check with friends who subscribe to news sites to see if I can find a good article

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NSW gun crime halves, but drive-bys soar (Nov 12) A report has found the level of gun crime has halved in New South Wales since 1995, but there has been a big increase in drive-by shootings.

The Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research has found the overall drop in gun crime has been driven by a dramatic fall in the number of armed robberies.

That has been put down to the heroin drought, improvements in security and the use of bank cards.

But the bureau's director Dr Don Weatherburn says the number of drive-by shootings has more than doubled.

"It is a headache and I think it's a matter of concern to some extent because it swamps the good news as far as gun crime's concerned," he said.

"I doubt whether many people are aware that the total number of gun crimes has declined by half since 1995.

"People have short memories and forget what a scourge armed robbery was. It's not now anything like what it was."

The number of shooting murders has also fallen from 29 in 1995 to 11 last year.
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Search on 'gun' on Aust Broadcasting Commission website

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Police worry over gun crime - Sydney Interview on Sydney-based current affairs prtogram
TONY EASTLEY: Sydney has a growing reputation for gun crime that is worrying police as well as the public.

A spike in shootings has highlighted the problem of illegal weapons and more importantly the attitude that some people have to using them, often to settle petty disputes over money and property.

Three men have been shot since the weekend and eight have died in shootings in the last five months.

The acting police commissioner in New South Wales, Nick Kaldas, is speaking here to AM's Simon Santow.

SIMON SANTOW: Nick Kaldas, the long-term trend is for gun crime to be going down but it seems that in recent times it hasn't been the case.

NICK KALDAS: You certainly get spikes on a short-term basis but the bottom line is it is definitely trending downwards in the longer term.

But we also accept that that is not something of great comfort to the community. One shooting incident is too many. One shooting up of a house is too many. And we're not taking our eye off the ball. We're obviously watching as closely as we can and working very hard at catching those responsible and dealing with it. (read on)

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I tried a google search on 'gun control australia' & found this site which (strangely enough) has been hacked

guncontrol.org.au/
Organization dedicated to gun control in Australia. Articles, press releases, and a list of published books with summaries.

so I looked them up on Wikepedia (only as accurate as the person posting, so I don't normally use it) - wikipedia on Gun Control Australia (organisation)

Snopes on Australian Guns - MIXTURE OF TRUE AND FALSE INFORMATION

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lecture on Uses & Abuses of Crime Statistics Don Weatherburn Director of state Bureau of Crime Statistics & Research - 31 mins


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jan 13 - 06:19 AM

Thank you very much.I have a friend who believes everything the National rifle assassination says.


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 26 Jan 13 - 07:48 AM

what the eye expects it sees - I read you reply twice before I saw what you typed.


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: Stringsinger
Date: 26 Jan 13 - 09:35 AM

The Aussies will never fix the gun problem in their country until they do something
about the drought that is drying up Australia. (The desertification of Australia).


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jan 13 - 12:13 PM

"Do something about the drought"? How?


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Jan 13 - 06:19 PM

"The Aussies will never fix the gun problem in their country until they do something about the drought that is drying up Australia. (The desertification of Australia)."

What?


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jan 13 - 07:54 PM

This planet was never designed for our benefit. We are squatters at best. Climate change is real and it will get worse.


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Jan 13 - 08:21 PM

'I think elected officials should wear uniforms, you know, like NASCAR drivers, so we could identify their corporate sponsors.'

I tripped over that on the www


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: Shimbo Darktree
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 12:12 AM

Here in Australia, we have no time to worry about gun control, and no need to, for the following reasons:

1. We are very busy trying to find an intelligent person and a politician in the same body, preferably with only one face.

2. The method of dealing with gun ownership in Australia in some states has been a huge success ... and it is simple. The government buys back your firearms for at least double what you paid for them (OK ... this is an exaggeration, but it does happen on occasions). Then you go out and buy another, and pocket the difference.

3. Only shotguns are really effective in Australia, because we can catch bullets in our teeth.

I have read some of what the NRA say - I get regular updates from a lapsed Catter whether I want them or not. (I hope she's lapsed, or I am now in deep trouble!) They seem no different from any strong fanatic organisation in any country. We have people with blinkered vision in Australia, too - they meet in a building called Parliament House, and are so prolific, there is such a place in every capital city.

Shimbo


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: Shimbo Darktree
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 01:34 AM

OK ... I've had a look at youtube now. There are several personal opinions given in the video, all on the same side of the question, of course. There are a number of alleged statistics given, all without reference to their source - and I doubt some of them. I personally have not met anyone who feels they suffered terribly from the gun buy-back. I also understood, perhaps wrongly, that you could obtain a licence to keep a gun collection if you met certain criteria.

I don't feel it is less safe living in Australia because of reduced gun ownership. I learned to shoot as a child, both privately and in a school cadet unit. I owned rifles when I was younger, although I haven't for many years. I make these points to indicate that I have handled firearms, and could still do so (if they are old enough!). But even with a houseful of guns, I doubt whether it would help me in the case of an unexpected home invasion. Bit like being a black belt at martial arts - not all that helpful if you are attacked without warning. Am I a pacifist? Yes and no - I have no sympathy with any harm, including death, incurred by someone who invades one's home with an obvious illegal intent. You are entitled to feel safe somewhere.

And that is my speech for the month.

Shimbo.


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 09:18 AM

Great posts, Shimbo. It isn't often I start the day with a good laugh. Thanks, mate.


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: freda underhill
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 02:37 AM

I've previously published info from the Australian Bureau of Statistics which demonstrated a reduced murder rate after the gun buy-backs in Australia. Here is a recent article on impact of gun buybacks in Australia which confirms the reduction.

Shooters in Australia are becoming politicised and we now have a Shooters and Fishers party in NSW which holds the balance of power. They have negotiated with government that licensed shooters can hunt in national parks, putting at risk the lives of bushwalkers and native animals.

Here is an article about the head of the NSW Game Council,
who was suspended this week for trespass and illegal hunting methods.


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Subject: RE: Australian gun control
From: freda underhill
Date: 29 Jan 13 - 12:40 AM

and re the link, I think it's full of @*%$etc

:-D


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