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BS: Canthere be TWO?

JohnInKansas 18 Dec 12 - 05:15 PM
Newport Boy 18 Dec 12 - 05:37 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 18 Dec 12 - 07:53 PM
GUEST,999 18 Dec 12 - 07:56 PM
gnu 18 Dec 12 - 08:08 PM
Bobert 18 Dec 12 - 08:08 PM
Rapparee 18 Dec 12 - 08:27 PM
Bill D 18 Dec 12 - 08:35 PM
JohnInKansas 18 Dec 12 - 10:57 PM
GUEST,999 19 Dec 12 - 08:50 AM
Pete Jennings 19 Dec 12 - 09:44 AM
KB in Iowa 19 Dec 12 - 12:42 PM
Bill D 19 Dec 12 - 01:00 PM
JohnInKansas 19 Dec 12 - 02:05 PM
KB in Iowa 19 Dec 12 - 02:52 PM
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Subject: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 05:15 PM

The CERN Laboratory, where scientists have been searching for the Higgs Boson that the "Standard Model of Physics" predicts must exist, have released the news that they have found it - - TWICE.

In other words, instead of finding the one "ultimate GOD Particle" they may have found TWO of them.

If true, this will likely mean lots of new theories will be produced to explain it. It is also quite likely that the apparent existence of two separate particle, both previously unseen, could be an artifact of instrument inaccuracies that will be quietly resolved.

It may be expected that both scientists and anti-science radicals will attempt to make much of this, but we should keep in mind that uncertainties are just one form of the discoveries that keep science going on in good health.

For those who think they might want "all the facts" there are two links provided by my newsletter:

One Higgs, or TWO? - a UK "newspaper" report.

ATLAS Higgs Results: One Or Two Higgs ? - an "unofficial blog post by a CERN scientist.

There may be much excitement. Don't panic. Carry a towel. Pass the time until this little flap is resolved by visiting the site where they promise you can "watch the world not come to an end."

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: Newport Boy
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 05:37 PM

A more sober summary here

Phil


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 07:53 PM

So? Maybe they are the female half and the male half.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 07:56 PM

Two to one there's another particle/moment involved.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: gnu
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 08:08 PM

9... a three way?


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 08:08 PM

Maybe two women Gods???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 08:27 PM

Christ and Anti-Christ particles? What if there are three? Will that be the Anti-Anti-Christ particle?

Why shouldn't there be more than one sort? Quarks come in several varieties. And don't forget the anti-Higgs boson might very well exist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 08:35 PM

The slightly smaller one is Higgs Jr.... a minor particle in training...


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 10:57 PM

After a careful check of my Dictionary of Ancient Deities, I find no mention of a "Higgs." This suggests that calling it a "God particle" may slightly overstate - or misrepresent - it's importance.

One the other hand, the other >10,000 deities listed, previously (and some currently still) worshipped, do imply that we have made sort of a habit of creating (and discarding) such beings pretty much at will, so perhaps with dissemination of a few skillfully crafted myths we could have one better than one(s?) we now have.

Being a bit too old for wandering around deserts and suffering deprivations of food and and sleep and blisters on my feet or other psychotropic influences, perhaps someone can suggest a proper hallucinogen so I might more easily "hear Higgs speak to me" like the old prophets could do. (?)

(Correspondence by PM or other private means is probably advisable for anyone who has some really good stuff.)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 08:50 AM

John, lick the fourteenth * in this sentence:

**********************************. Not only will you hear Higgs speak,

but he'll do so in color.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 09:44 AM

LOL!


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 12:42 PM

How many God particles can dance on the head of a pin?


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 01:00 PM

256,92110


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 02:05 PM

But only for a very short time.

The Higgs decays so rapidly that only the particles produced when it comes apart can be seen, so the only actual "observations" that can made are more like "Higgs was here."

Maybe its real name should be the Kilroy?

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 02:52 PM

The Kilroy Particle - I like it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: Bert
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 05:52 PM

...an artifact of instrument inaccuracies that will be quietly resolved... Can I use this on my guitar?


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 07:04 PM

CERN has responded to the recent newsrag stories, with the promise that Definitive announcement on Higgs boson possible in March

This latest announcement indicates that "officially" CERN has no sense of humor at all, but I guess when someone claims your new $10,000,000,000 toy has a squeaky axle it's not too unreasonable to be a little defensive.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Canthere be TWO?
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 07:20 PM

"The $10 billion Large Hadron Collider,....., will shut down for about two years in February to allow a doubling of its power and its capacity to probe cosmic mysteries."


Oh my...they will then have to explain, (IF it still works at double power), what those new particles are! The history of science is full of instances of...."hmmm..look at this!"


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