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GUEST,999 26 Nov 12 - 11:08 PM
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Subject: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 11:08 PM

I need drugs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 11:11 PM

Allow me to rephrase that.

I would like drugs. I thought he was American.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: olddude
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 11:12 PM

He is from Canada, just looked it up Bruce ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 11:16 PM

Dan, I thought he was American. Wasn't like I ever BLAMED y'all for it, but to find out he's from here, awwwwwwwwwwwrrrrgggh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 11:33 PM

lol


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 11:35 PM

I feel yer pain, man. It is a flippin' dissgrace, eh? The younger grils in this town are nuts abowt him too. That really flippin' creeps me out, eh?

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:15 AM

you poor man!!!
O! niner, ain't it a cryin bleedin shame?

like Shane, "I feel yer pain, man."
well, I'm off to ...

keep on pickin'
dennis

workin up an Advent/Xmas set for the old folks home. hang in there 999; better days are comin soon :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: number 6
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:27 AM

Who give's a rat's ass what he is, or where he is from.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:40 AM

Oh well, youse guys, cheer up...

At least no one can say that Honey Boo Boo is your fault.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:50 AM

thanks, frogprince. You cheered me up!
dennis


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:59 AM

Yeah, I hear he's replaced aging Bruce Murdoch as Canada's Teen Idol...

It was bound to happen, sooner or later.

Us old folks still like Bruce, though. He speaks our language.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 05:33 AM

While he may not be a "middle aged folkie's "cup of tea" , Bieber sold 15 million albums before his 18th birthday. On YouTube, his song "Baby ft. Ludacris has 805,804,019 hits", so someone is watching, globally (while it has 3,220,235 dislikes, IMO, a small # compared to the total number of views).

Canadian singer-song writer, Gordon Lightfoot sold 10 million records in his career since the 60's.

I am not saying Bieber is better than Lightfoot. But, the success for this young fellow is not too shabby.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 05:42 AM

I suspect Canadian Shania Twain's album sales, most likely tripled (or greater) Bieber's.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 06:02 AM

My apologies Bruce. I mean, like, somehow I feel responsible for this trauma..........A large cyber doobie coming your way.



Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 06:23 AM

Justin Bieber!!!
Teen Idol


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 06:26 AM

He's in good company
Good company


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 07:58 AM

If you perform bad, or need to leave early, why not a purge-distraction?


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 08:49 AM

It's natural to assume that Bieber is American since he's successful and sells lots of records....


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 08:53 AM

American=Success
=(:-( D)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 09:12 AM

It's a lie! Bieber is not Canadian! In order to be Canadian, one must be born in Canada. Being expectorated doesn't count! Phlegm has no nationality!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Becca72
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 09:55 AM

The reason Bieber's YouTube vid has so many hits is because it's being viewed by 12 year old girls and they watch it over and over and over and over and over...


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 10:45 AM

Bruce......Listen, we have been friends for quite awhile and I hate seeing you in such distress. How about we give you back Jim Carrey? Go ahead....take him......it will be okay, I promise...............Plus he hasn't done jackshit lately....
Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 11:57 AM

I was talking to Jim last week, Spaw. Jim Carrey, that is, not James Kirk. (I haven't been in touch with Shatner since late last August.)

Anyway, Jim Carrey said he's been a bit letdown lately by your low performance output too. "He peaked back around 1992, and it's been downhill ever since," were his exact words.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 11:58 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. There's downright mean and then there's cruel and unusual. And don't you even consider sending Shatner back. Even friendship has limits.

I just looked at 20 seconds of one of JB's Youtube videos. He has received 87 MILLION hits on it. Jaysus, who knew?

Shania had a paltry 33 million on 'From This Moment', which is imo a good song.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:03 PM

I'd blame Stephen Harper, Bruce, he's bringing Canada into line with the rest of the planet, so he probably ordered The Bieber Boy to be promoted by his Merry Band of Canadian 'Dumb 'Em ALL Down' Corporate Bastards..


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:15 PM

I flippin' agree! It is ALL Harper's fault!!! That fliphead is responsible for every flippin' thing that goes wrong in this cuntry, includin' the fact that I ain't been laid in....well...a fair while now...and I can't get no good dope arownd here neether unlest I grow it myself! I may be, like, just a pond on the flippin' chessbored of life in Canada, but even I know a plane and obvius fact when it is stairin' me right in the flippin' face!

HARPER HAS GOT TO, LIKE, GO!!!!!!!!! And soon, eh?

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Musket
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:19 PM

OK, having heard people on the telly mention Justin Bieber, I had been curious to see who he is. My curiosity went up a notch when I saw this thread, for no other reason than I had been going to find out.

So I did.

Thanks 999, I may now have credibility when speaking to my niece's children.

(And there was me thinking Canada began and ended with Neil Young, Randy Bachmann and The Clumsy Lovers......)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:36 PM

It doesn't end there! We also have Joni Mitchell, Ian & Sylvia Tyson, Leonard Cohen, most of the members of The Band, the Guess Who, Gordon Lightfoot, Buffy Sainte-Marie (who was born in Alberta but has dual American-Canadian citizenship), Paul Anka (shudder!), Celine Dionne, Shania Twain, Rush, Alanis Morrisette, and many more...

See this list:

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artists-canadian.html

Further to that, we have Lynn Miles, an Ottawa area folksinger who is not all that famous, but I think she's the finest songwriter (and one of the very finest singers) in Canada...or anywhere. Look her up on Youtube and see. Lynn was Alanis' vocal coach, by the way, when Alanis was a teenager.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:45 PM

Oh, poor ickle fellow. Y oo all so howwid to him! I can hear him crying all the way to the bank. Why, my stepdaughter loves him ~~ so yah-sux-bu 2 all u wotters!.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:46 PM

... and RANKERS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:55 PM

"Buffy Sainte-Marie (who was born in Alberta but has dual American-Canadian citizenship)"

Close, LH. She was born in Saskatchewan.

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Musket, they will be in awe if you walk in one day doing a JB song.

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MtheGM, LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 01:40 PM

""American=Success""


I suspect most of the successful british singers/groups are actually USDAers in drag:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 02:18 PM

Beeber a Canuck? Unfortunately.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 02:54 PM

"Justin Bieber is Canadian"

Are there any other plastic products made up there?


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:11 PM

Uh, yeah, Frogprince.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:15 PM

froggy. Monte Hall... he used to have this game with three doors, I hear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:23 PM

Harper's Hair

Stephen Harper wears his hair
With pride and vanity
He pays for that with money grabbed
From folks like you and me
His head is clad with plastic strands
Which daily are re-raked
To hid the fact his policies are
Pretty much half-baked

The End


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:28 PM

The Canadian Music industry has long been very good at giving America what it wants.

From Guy Lombardo, Paul Anka, The Guess Who, Rush, BTO, Alanis Morrisette, Shania, Celene, Sarah, Byan Adams, BNL, Buble and others mentioned here and even more not mentioned, there is usually a Canadian or three near the top of the US charts. As a Canadian I have never felt any specific obligation to prefer them, like them or even listen to them.

As an ambassador of Canada and Canadian music, Canada could do worse than a clean cut kid who can sing, write and dance. You don't have to like Beiber, you don't have to crap on him either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:37 PM

What's to crap on. The kid gets millions of hits on Youtube and he's making a fortune. Good for him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:40 PM

In defense of Bieber he is a good hockey player. I don't care for any of the modern music including his, but check this video out and it may make some folks prouder to claim him.
A look at the deeper Bieber


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:44 PM

I'm pretty sure the Leafs goalie let that one in! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:00 PM

I have never heard him sing. Didn't know he wrote music or puked on stage. Seems like a cool guy for such a pup.

Oh, as far as $ being success, Jim Carrie just might be considered a success as well. >;-)

As for Shania... ooo me knees is weak. And even moreso for Terri Clark.

I can seriously say I don't really dislike any Canuck actors or singers or... well, Celine Dionne does grate on me nerves.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:05 PM

Brian Adams, Avril Lavigne and Sarah McLachlan (a Nova Scotian) are also Canadian jewels.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:15 PM

Oh yeah! In other fields, Jim Carey, Dan Ackroyd, Matthew Perry, Eugene Levy, Leslie Neilson, Catherine O'Hara, Chief Dan George, Gordon Pinsent, Robert Joy and Cirque de Puree


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:22 PM

All those folks are great with me Jack as was the other list, except for maybe Lombardo but even he was a fine boat racer. So if you don't mind (LOL....or even if you do) I'll be crappin' on the Bieber Boy just for the hell of it. Also I think he looks like a dick......not even a hard-on.......just a dick with goofy hair..............


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:31 PM

I could name many more but a teen heart-throb from the past that set the girls screaming was Bobby Curtola. My wife and I had the pleasure of meeting and talking with him years later in Las Vegas. I found him to be friendly and gratious and he sang Fortune Teller for my wife on our annivesary. On his break he joined us at our table and it is a treasured memory!
Denny Doherty is another great one that comes to mind!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:33 PM

Now if he could "sing, write and dance"...


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:33 PM

Spaw... ya wanna talk hair? We gotta a guy up here with "hair". And he truly deserves a LOTTA hits... in the arse. He was born in Ontario too. Hmmmmm


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:34 PM

That pic was JB with Harper's hair.

The kid does good work by helping others, and that young fellow who got the Toronto shirt will remember that for a long time. OK, so I prefer JB.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:52 PM

I prefer
Terri.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 06:05 PM

S'all good. As they say in Georgia.

Spaw I expect nothing less of you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 06:10 PM

Here ya go, Gnu.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 06:33 PM

I can't think of a better thing ta do, 9.

Sorry, that's a very crass thing to say. My apologies to all with good manners and no sex drive.

9... she kinda reminds me a bit of someone I useta know. >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 09:45 PM

In my mind there's a wierd connection between Gordon Lightfoot and Justin Bieber—neither of them is Aboriginal. When I first heard Lightfoot's name (circa 1965) I, like many others, assumed that with a name like that he had to be First Nations. Turns out no, of course. I first heard of Justin on the Gian Ghomesshi show a few years back when Elvira Kurt was talking him up as a lesbian cult hero, a status he enjoyed because he looked so darn tomboy cute. Only I heard his name wrong and I thought, "Justin Beaver, eh? That's so cool, an Indian kid from Ontario hitting the big time."


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,DDT
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 10:05 PM

Can't stand any of the Canadian artists. Sorry, but it had to be said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 10:12 PM

We can't stand you either Guest DDT! Is not DDT pure poison?
I know, I know, don't feed the trolls but shit is shit and that had to be said as well!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 03:34 AM

Also posted in the "Thread name game"

BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)

Are we going to have a whole string of threads stating the bloody obvious about the nationality of famous persons? :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Musket
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 03:48 AM

I thought I'd do a list of British people worth knowing, but a link to the electoral register is just laziness on my part.

I'll get me etc


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 10:27 AM

Musket, I know all seventeen of 'em :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: meself
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 11:20 AM

Henry the VIIIth - was he British?


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: bobad
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 11:27 AM

It's official, Canada has lost its cool factor


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 11:41 AM

"Henry the VIIIth - was he British?" His dad was Welsh and Henry VIII was born in England. So, yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 11:54 AM

""Are we going to have a whole string of threads stating the bloody obvious about the nationality of famous persons? :) ""

Why not, IMO, it is less annoying than some of the crap people constantly debate (aka, endlessly) like religion, Israel-Palestine conflicts,USA politics, and the follies of British Prime Ministers and USA Presidents, yada-yada)

"If you don't happen to like it, pass it by"
:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: meself
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 01:29 PM

What about Elizabeth I - was she British II?


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 01:33 PM

Benny Hill, Maggie Thatcher, Tony Blair, the best comedic minds of their generation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 02:10 PM

How about Russia? I suggest Nikita Krushchev, Vladimir Putin, Boris Pasternak, Valeri Kharlamov, Yvan Kojedub, Alexander Pokryshkin, and Mikhail Gorbachev just to get things rolling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 02:50 PM

British (in no order), Oliver Cromwell, Conrad Black, Alfred Hitchcock, Friar Tuck, Basil and Sybil Fawlty, Boy George-George Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 04:02 PM

Oliver Twist, David Copperfield, Mary Poppins, Dr. Who.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 04:07 PM

"What about Elizabeth I - was she British II?"

By residency, yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 04:07 PM

Dr. Who?

The Guess Who were Canadians.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 04:38 PM

Tarzan, Welshmen, Eloi, Morlocks


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 05:03 PM

Canada Goose - Canadian?


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 05:10 PM

Oops... as 9 pointed out to me, #1 was a Brit. I was thinking about #2.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 05:12 PM

Liz II was born in England. That's enough for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: CET
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 06:40 PM

I am kind of flabbergasted to learn that there are people who didn't know that JB was Canadian. I have never listened to a single song of his, but I knew he was a Canuck as soon as he became famous.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 06:46 PM

CET, I really didn't know. Flabbergasted, stunned as me arse, uninformed, all the aforementioned. That's me. However, while doubting I'll ever become a fan, it makes one proud to be Canadian.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 07:28 PM

God is Canadian


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 07:34 PM

Good thing for my keyboard I wasn't drinking beer when I watched that, Ed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 07:39 PM

Alanis Morissette had some great lines in that movie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 08:28 PM

LOL!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 08:35 PM

The movie, BTW, is "Dogma", and is one of my all-time favorites.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:20 AM

Alanis definitely did a good job in that role in that movie.

The way Kevin Smith sees, God, she was damned near perfect.

If he makes a sequel, admit it, Justin Beiber would be equally as good for exactly the same reason. Or Sarah Mclaughlin in her day, or Joni Mitchell in hers. There is a calm confident dignity with which Canadian super celebrities comport themselves which make them suitable for that part.

Let's call the role "Laid Back God."

BTW Morgan Freeman has it too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:48 AM

Other than The Band,have any Canadians ever had any real soul? And they had to borrow it from Levon.
Kind of a whitebread, Anne Murray kind of a place.
Do Canadians hambone?
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Charmion
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 06:05 AM

We have our own kind of cool, Mr Krinkle -- more blues than soul.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 06:23 AM

Rockabilly Ronniw Hawkins, who became a Canadian in 1964, was "the mam' who brought drummer Levon to Canada with his band the Hawkes, which later "morphed" into the Band. This paved the road for the likes of Canadian "blue-eyed soul" singer Burton Cummings. Few bands could hold their own with the Beatles, in their peak, like "the Guess Who" did.


Ronnie and Levon

Ronnie and Levon




True, HK, Canadians are not significant in the roots of black-gospel soul music. But, lets not forget the influence of producer, composer, singer, songwriter, and arranger David Foster, on some of the most successful musical artists in the world, including Bryan Adams, Christina Aguilera, Air Supply, All-4-One, Andrea Bocelli, Boz Scaggs, Toni Braxton, Michael Bublé, Mariah Carey, Charice, Cher, Chicago, Destiny's Child, Neil Diamond, Céline Dion, Earth Wind and Fire, Gloria Estefan, Jackie Evancho, Josh Groban, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Chaka Khan, Beyoncé Knowles, Kenny Loggins, Madonna, Nsync, Prince,Kenny Rogers, Seal, Barbra Streisand, Donna Summer, Tamia, The Tubes and Shania Twain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 06:28 AM

Hank Snow. Now he was a real stampeder.
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 06:53 AM

And now I know one person who's responsible for so much bad, overproduced music.
And it figures a Canadian is guilty.
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 06:56 AM

Nova Scotian Hank Snow has "been everywhere man". He gave "Elvis" hisa start by having him as his opening act on the Grand Ole Opry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 07:04 AM

Why so "grumple", this morning Henry.

There is easy-accessible music for everyone's taste. Some like gravely-harsh whisky, while others prefer the smooth and glitsy-complex kind. Many like it all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 07:09 AM

I'm only kidding. Canadians make as good a music as anyone else.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 07:26 AM

I know that Henry, I'm just carrying on :)

<(=+~~~)<^>


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 07:30 AM

Canada is a whiter country than Amerika. Your music hasn't been sullied by so many ethnic impurities. So Canadian music appeals to white people more than our own bastardized musics.
Or that's my perception.
Were The Carpenters Canadian?
If they weren't, they should have been.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 07:41 AM

There are music differences based on countries or origin, stimulated by differences in cultural and social make-up. But, I suspect most folk see music and musicians as being international in nature, with all contributing to its richness. Those boundries are getting less and less complex (I suspect there is a mix of benefits and losses from that). Big music, that once was the only player in town before the internet and new technology, is complex - even for the seasoned artist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 07:48 AM

I do not believe the carpenters were Canadian.

What I find interesting is the music hotspots in Canada, (especially in Cape breton and Newfoundland, (that have Celtic-Irish traditional music roots).

What I also find encouraging is the broad influence that a few people have had on music - such as some of the names I brought up (Hawkins, Foster, Lanois).


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 07:58 AM

I'd like to travel around there. I've been there once.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 08:06 AM

Influencial Prince Edward Island singer/songwriter Gene MacLellan (RIP)- who penned many of Anne Murray's songs sumed it up in this song:


Gene MacLellan


Gene MacLellan

Gene is a good look-up on youtube, if you like this kind of folksy music.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 11:07 AM

Canada is a wonderful country, Henry. The only thing I don't like about it is...it's a bit too far north...too long a winter. We've always had more than our fair share of great musicians here, and I expect that will continue. There's something about the vastness of this land and the relatively small population in a huge expanse of land that brings out the poet in people, I think. So many of our finest musicians have come from the small towns and rural areas, but they all end up going to the big city in order to have a successful career.

I remember the Canada of my youth. Boy, how I loved it! It's changed radically since then, seems at times to have lost its sense of identity with the huge influx of immigrants from all over the world coming in, but all in all, it's still a great place.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 11:23 AM

I liked what I saw. And I only
saw a tiny bit.
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 11:42 AM

And the Can Con laws Hawk. Don't forget the Can Con laws.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: meself
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 11:42 AM

"Canada is a whiter country than Amerika. Your music hasn't been sullied by so many ethnic impurities. So Canadian music appeals to white people more than our own bastardized musics."

Isn't Mudcat wonderful? A person can make such statements and seemingly retain the unqualified respect of other members!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 11:50 AM

Well it's true. You folks give it a Pat Boone kind of treatment and make it palatable for mass consumption by the middle class. The Real Music scares people too much.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 11:55 AM

"Your music hasn't been sullied by so many ethnic impurities."

What horseshit!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: meself
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:01 PM

That's more like it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:04 PM

But it's true. We've got everything mixed into the pot here. African,Latin,Celtic, Scotch Irish,Asian, you name it. Canada has remained mostly English, French and Aboriginal.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:09 PM

If you got any mojo up there, you got it second hand from us.
Like the whole British Blues thing. What do Brits know about the blues? It's silly.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:12 PM

""I remember the Canada of my youth. Boy, how I loved it! It's changed radically since then, seems at times to have lost its sense of identity with the huge influx of immigrants from all over the world coming in""

That is true for aome areas of Canada, and not so true for others. The Maritimes and Newfoundland has not really changed that much and immigration has not had that much of an impact-yet, that is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:15 PM

I think I would get tired of being cold. And wet.
=(:-( o)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:21 PM

"Canada has remained mostly English, French and Aboriginal."

You are going from strength to strength. The Montreal metropolitan area has a population of close to 3.8 million people from damned near every country in the world. Took me a moment to recall that Oscar Peterson was Black or that Edith Butler is Acadian. We tend to ignore colour or race especially when it comes to music or the arts. Your ethnicity means little. It's yer chops that count.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:28 PM

"I think I would get tired of being cold. And wet."

It whets your artistic skills.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:30 PM

I've been to Montreal.
Another big city.
Ethnicity has an effect on music. It pollutes and cross pollinates. Hybridizes.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:48 PM

The major centres such as Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver are like international melting pots now, and you can find every kind of ethnic influence in their music. That has had a big effect on the whole country through the mass media.

Toronto used to be a "white English culture" city, but not any more. When I was a kid, Toronto seemed like a bastion of English and Scottish culture with a good deal of Irish influence there as well. There were plenty of other ethnic neighborhoods downtown, of course...the Portuguese, the Chinese, the Italians, the Greeks, etc...but the city overall seemed like an Anglo-Saxon society. It's not at all like that now. As a matter of fact, I think caucasians are now outnumbered by other races in the city of Toronto. There's been a diaspora of middle class whites out of Toronto to the smaller outlying cities and country towns to the north, the east and the west of Toronto. This has caused cities like Barrie, Newmarket, and Orillia to grow very rapidly in the past few decades, and in those cities you find the predominantly white-English culture that you used to find in Toronto when I was a child.

Now, as Ed says, the East Coast culture hasn't changed all that much, aside from the collapse of the Fishery.

I agree, Henry, that the multi-ethnic contributions add a lot to the vitality of music. On the other hand, it's kind of neat when you have a long established musical culture with its own set of traditions such as the maritime music of the East Coast in Canada and Maine. Either situation can produce some excellent music.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 12:57 PM

One day I may visit. I drove through Toronto. Big place.
If I was younger I'd think about emigrating for a while.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 01:03 PM

Toronto's a huge place now, the traffic is terrible, the city streets are full of trash and graffiti, and there are homeless and panhandlers all over the place downtown. What a sad deterioration in what was once a clean and beautiful city!

I used to love it back in the 60s and early 70s. I go there now only when I have no choice about the matter, and I get back out as soon as possible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Charmion
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 04:30 PM

I like Lower Town in Ottawa just the way it is: about as ethnically mixed up as you can get in a neighbourhood 10 blocks square. We have Orthodox Jews strolling to shul through a housing development full of Somali families, and it doesn't get much more diverse than that.

But Hawk is right about traffic: it's nuts, especially since City Council is trying to do something about our century-old sewer system. Bus transit just doesn't fit into a major construction site on an arterial road.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 04:46 PM

Ottawa is a pretty neat town. It's a lot smaller than Toronto, and it has the French-English thing going as well as the multinational thing that results from all the diplomatic connections to the federal government. Lots of great restaurants and interesting sights to see in Ottawa.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 04:58 PM

Odd that people who don't know shit about about Canada or The Big Smoke or OOH LA LA! or The Maritimes or The Granite Planet can make definitive statements about them... about their peoples... about their music... about their culture.

I've been to most (never west of Ontario but ALWAYS wanted to visit) and all I can say is, people are people, no matter where you go.

"Canada has remained mostly English, French and Aboriginal." I don't need to travel anymore to know that is shite. I can watch it in my living room. We now have TV here!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 06:00 PM

Henry Krinkle: "I think I would get tired of being cold. And wet."

Well, so much for the sex change operation....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Charmion
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 07:48 PM

Hawk, Ottawa's diversity has almost nothing to do with diplomats. This town has three, count 'em, three universities and a very large community college -- much more important for attracting a multinational population. The federal government's hiring practices tend to favour certain minorities, also, although Public Service workplace culture still has -- as they say -- a ways to go.

Most important of all, Ottawa is largely recession-proof, so there are lots of jobs in the service sector, especially retail. Go to any department store around here, and you will find that the majority of sales staff on the floor are new Canadians or first-generation Canucks. Lots and lots of young women in hijabs work at Wal-Mart and Loblaws.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 08:16 PM

When I lived in Ottawa I met a lot of refugees from Lebanon, Iran and other places. It seems as to it is a bit of and entry point for people fleeing from trouble.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 08:58 PM

Sounds like a good place for me.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 09:11 PM

The Sandusky trial admitted 69 hours of tapes into evidence.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 12:12 AM

We in the UK have our own cross to bear, it's boy band called One Direction.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 12:34 AM

& prince Harry, & the Spice girls being part of the establishment (gives great hope to all the other hacks with little talent) & Benny Hill & Sasha Barron Cohen & that BBC guy who diddled all the kids.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 12:50 AM

Thanks for the additional info, Charmion. It seemed like a very cosmopolitan place to me, but still not a huge place...like Toronto. I figured that might have had a good deal to do with the federal government being there, and all the additional jobs that are available in a country's capital city. I liked it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Charmion
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:06 AM

Ottawa is, indeed, a fine place, though I must admit it's frickin' cold and wet right about now. But, to return to the original topic, let us not forget that Canada has something of a track record in cranking out teen sensations. Remember Paul Anka?

The New Yorker ran a fascinating article about the Bieber business last summer. It conveyed a strong impression of a hard-working young man with heavy responsibilities, who loves his mother and does his best in a difficult business. He came across as genuinely nice and very talented, if immature. That last characteristic seemed mostly an effect of having been so thoroughly commodified at such a young age.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:20 AM

A bit of background on Justin's family.


Pattie Mallette


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Charmion
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 08:09 AM

Here's the New Yorker story

The story is a profile of Scooter Braun, the promoter who found JB on YouTube and groomed him for stardom. Can you spell Svengali, boys and girls?


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: frogprince
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 09:08 AM

"Canada is a whiter country than Amerika. Your music hasn't been sullied by so many ethnic impurities"

But you probably wouldn/t like it, Heinrich; So far as I know, you wouldn't be able to find a KKK chapter to join.

I've been about to think "well, at least sometimes Henry posts something that is just innocuous dumb fun"; then you dump mental feces like this here again. I have no power to make you go away, and I wouldn't want to have that power. But I truly wish you would go away.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 02:14 PM

=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Charmion
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 02:31 PM

Mr Krinkle, please satisfy my idle curiosity: What do you mean when you type =(:-( ))?


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 02:48 PM

It is my personal emoticon. A monquis(        French for monkey)head with a Mohawk haircut. Why a Mohawk? Why Henry Krinkle?Why a monquis?
You have a mystery on your hands.
=(:-( D)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 03:43 PM

S'matter, Hank? Too swelled up with troll pride to speak? Can't at least apologize for a mental slip showing your true character?

Did I ever tell you I don't like you?

Oh, yeah, I did. More than once.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 03:59 PM

Be polite.
If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.
=(:-( X)


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 04:13 PM

Hank... to say nothing about your written words, posted for all to read for eternity, which display your aberrant and abhorrent behaviour and personality is to allow them to stink up the air without asking you to keep your vile shit to yourself.

Yer a fookin idiot at BEST. And that IS the nicest thing I can say about you at this moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 04:21 PM

You've a screw loose.
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:09 PM

Screw loose, Hank? Your words are written in the records forever. Not just your last transgression, all of them. For anyone and everyone to read... forever. You screwed yourself, troll boy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:35 PM

Yo... troll boy...

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From:Henry Krinkle - PM
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 09:20 PM

I voted for them because I believe in them.
You voted for Prez al-Obama because he's half negro.
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Keep diggin. Yer doin a great job so far letting everyone know who you really are.

Are you really that stunned as me arse? No wonder people don't invite you over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 06:48 PM

You be quiet.
You curse and threaten.
You behave inappropriately.
Be respectful of Mudcat.
Govern yourself.
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 07:04 PM

If you would do that of which you speak, Hank, you might get some respect but I doubt that anyone would respect someone who posts such racist, inane shit and trolls ad infinitum.

I have never threatened you. Curse? Yeah, to wit... fuck you you ignorant piece of trash. Crawl back under yer rock. Trash like you have come and gone and also have been ejected from this website when it was deemed necessary for the benefit of all readers and contributers. It takes a lot of trash to get ejected but I think yer well on yer way.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 09:03 PM

This is a "Pat Boone kind of treatment?" CLICKY.

The tall galoot with the long hair who's playing guitar is My nephew, Rob Baker, my older sister's son.

Over the years, he and the group, The Tragically Hip, have won just about every Canadian music award there is.

Pat Boone? I don't think so.

Apart from this, if I ever get confused about the REAL Canada, I manage to reorient myself by watching an episode or two of—Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 30 Nov 12 - 09:30 PM

Good one, Don.

I was taking a small sip during the RG Show and barely held back a guffaw that would have fried my keyboard. It backfired up my nasal passages and sonamabitch it cleared my nose. No more sinus trouble. No more sinus.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 12:38 AM

Be polite.
If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.
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You've a screw loose.
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Don't these two consecutive posts say it all?

He is a troll and a hypocrite, Please ignore the hypocrite, stop feeding the troll.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 12:43 AM

Hi Jack.
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 12:52 AM

gnu needs help.
Help him Jack.
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Mooh
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 02:03 PM

Just took a drive down to Long & McQuade Music in Stratford this morning to get a new pair of headphones. Stratford is the fabled home town of JB.

No sign of him there, but I wasn't looking for him, in fact I didn't even think of him.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Mooh
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 02:09 PM

Oh yeah, and my cover band's soundman is a third or fourth cousin of JB, though they've never met. A sax player I used to play with was in the JB movie I am led to believe. Even worse, many of my younger students want to learn JB songs. Gotta hand it to JB (and Taylor Swift), he's inadvertently sold a lot of guitars to kids, and at least that's good for business even if it's not good for my sanity.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 07:37 PM

Don... cool. If you can get tickets, I hope you take full adavntage. That clip of The 100th sucks unless you know the song. The Hip are like U2 on 10X steroids. Their music is amazing. I, like most Mudcatters, I am assuming of course, prefer folk, trad and blues but The Hip are one of those bands that just kinda reach out and grab you by the booboo.

May I be so bold as to link to a tune they did years before Katrina did her nasty and terrible tragedy on NO?
Here it is, I hope it's okay. Lotta bad memories but, this IS The Hip.

Yo, Hank. I may well need help. Assholes are to my left and right everyday everywhere I go and I can sidestep them for the most part. You keep gettin right in my face and in my freinds' faces. You even get in the face of all humankind when you post your crap on the internut. Don't matter if you make any funnies anymore... I ain't laughin again. Fuck off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Dec 12 - 10:39 PM

Cranky Hank heed your own words.

Be polite.
If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 02 Dec 12 - 03:34 AM

I agree with Gnu, people are people where ever. I haven't been to Canada yet but I am looking forward to seeing the country and the people for myself. Lots of countries or cities have areas that aren't so good so I would rather go with an open mind than take notice of disparaging comments.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 03:40 PM

What a snort!

After mentioning above that Rob Baker, guitarist with the Tragically Hip. is my nephew (son of my older sister, Mary), yesterday my younger sister, Pat, called, and told me that she just got a call from Rob. He was in town! The Tragically Hip is in Seattle to do a gig, and while he's here he wanted to get together with us all.

So yesterday, Pat and Barbara picked him up at the hotel, and the four of us spent the day together. I hadn't seen Rob in about twelve years and he looks the same. Tall, slim, good-looking guy with beard and mustache and very long hair (CLICKY). I'd forgotten how deep his voice is. Low baritone or bass, maybe.

And I'd forgotten what a really bright, intelligent person he is!

We sat around in our living room and talked about all kinds of things, mostly music. The Hip has performed for audiences as large as 150,000 people. I, on the other hand, did most of my singing in coffee houses and house concerts, with some fairly big concerts (largest crowd I sang for was 6,000, at one of the Seattle Center Hootenannies in 1963). Rob commented that when singing for huge audiences, there is this great, anonymous sea of faces, and you just go out on stage and do it. But he felt that it was much more intimidating to sing for smaller audiences, such as a house concert.

Also, in addition to working with the Hip, Rob's got a few individual projects going. We talked a lot about home recording studios, equipment, mics, software and such. I picked up a lot of excellent information!

Great conversation!

Later, the four of us adjourned to the dining room and scarfed down a couple of pizzas we'd sent out for, then about five p.m. or so, Pat and Barbara drove him to the gig site to get ready for the performance.

Most enjoyable get-together!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 05:53 PM

Don, cool. I know most people say they don't get "star struck" but when ya meet up with someone of this talent, well, it just happens. Now, I know people will kinda look with a cocked eye at what I just said but, fact is, this guy is a star to millions. Yes, average guy who struck it lucky but, he is a star and there is something fascinating about that. Do I admire such people. No. Do I appreciate his conribution to The Hip. Hell yes!

Most peeps in this Blues and Folk site don't know The Hip and may not not to know them. But, they are goooood at what they do.

You have an extremely talented nephew, Don. His geetar work is hard to praise adequately. I would simply say it's amazing. You have every right to be proud of him... and then some.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 06:20 PM

Did you teach him any guitar? Do you jam with him?
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 06:21 PM

"The Hip and may not not to know them."

My guess would be... not care to know them but I am open to suggestions. YMMV


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 06:49 PM

I've run into a few people who were doing the "big star, prima donna" sort of thing, oftentimes when they were not all that well-known, or, for that matter, talented. But Rob comes on like a regular guy who's just very happy to be able to do what he loves to do and be free to keep doing it.

I think his quote at the top of the "Kickass Canadians" interview that I linked to above (here it is again) pretty well says it:

"Getting to make a living out of your own creativity. . . .   You can't really ask for much more than that."

Amen to that!!

And he doesn't just confine himself to music. We did talk a bit of politics and we pretty well see eye-to-eye. I think, as a private citizen, he's been quietly active in a number of good causes.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 07:07 PM

Great song! Perfect vocal performance for the song. Addictive guitar riffs!

OH CANADA!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 07:13 PM

Sorry, much better version!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 07:14 PM

Thanks, Don. Interesting article.

I put together a CD years ago of "fun tunes" and sent it to a bunch of Mudcatters. It contained a variety of music genres and one tune was the studio of the Hip tune I linked to above, "NO Is Sinking". I also included other Canucks, such as Bruce Cockburn, Kim Mitchell interspersed with stuff like King Crimson's "Elephant Talk" to a CARA fiddle tune featuring Mudcatter David Oakley... Oaks (see carsmusic.com - them Irish lads are GOOD!). I got comments. I felt compelled to say that The Hip are like U2 on steroids. Seemed appropriately "Canuck". When you quoted "Kickass Canadians", it reminded me of that.

30 years... and still "all for one and one for all"! That's hip in my books!

Thanks for sharing, Don.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 07:54 PM

JtS... last link not available in Canada! Hahahaha. But, the link I and you posted above is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 07:57 PM

You have it on CD. It is the CD version.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 08:00 PM

Oh. Did I send that CD to CC too?


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 08:07 PM

I don't know, but you have your own copy right?


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: gnu
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 08:48 PM

JtS. It's Saturday night and I am live. Don't confuse me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 11:19 PM

"Did you teach him any guitar? Do you jam with him?"

Fair question from Henry, so I'll answer it.

Well, Rob was born in Kingston, Ontario, and that's where he lives now, with wife and kids. I live in Seattle. My sister, Mary (Rob's mother) told me once in a phone conversation (probably called at Christmas or some such) that Robbie, teenager at the time, was teaching himself to play the guitar.

Actually, Rob and I have seen each other only twice, due to the fact that we live on practically opposite sides of the continent. The first time we met was when Rob came to Seattle with the Hip to do a concert about ten or twelve years ago, and since his time was limited, we spent about an hour getting acquainted. This time, we were able to spend more time together, a few more hours before he had to hit the stage.

We've never had a chance to sit down with a couple of hot guitars and jam. It would be interesting to see what might come out. Our styles are quite different and sometimes some interesting stuff can emerge.

I'd love to give it a whack!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 12:40 AM

We want to hear it.
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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 12:22 AM

I don't go out of my way looking for Bieber's music, but he has a good voice and seems to have a legitimate talent. Growing up in the media glare is difficult - that'll be the real trick.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: PHJim
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 01:09 PM

I hope no one's posted this already: Two Canadian Icons


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: PHJim
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 01:13 PM

He has provided some good material to a few folks:   James Earl Jones does Justin Bieber


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Subject: RE: BS: Justin Bieber is Canadian.
From: PHJim
Date: 10 Dec 12 - 02:35 PM

Henry Krinkle - "If you got any mojo up there, you got it second hand from us.
Like the whole British Blues thing. What do Brits know about the blues? It's silly.
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I've never heard you play Henry. Think you could have taught John Mayall, Alex Korner, Peter Greene, Rick Fines, Jeff Healy, Ken Whiteley, Dave Mowatt, Jim Bowskill, Jackie Washington, Mose Scarlett, Carlos delJunco... how to play the blues?


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