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BS: 'Gay marriage' question

GUEST,Guest from Sanity 21 Feb 13 - 02:22 PM
akenaton 21 Feb 13 - 02:25 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 21 Feb 13 - 02:42 PM
Don Firth 21 Feb 13 - 06:53 PM
Steve Shaw 21 Feb 13 - 07:10 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 21 Feb 13 - 10:56 PM
Don Firth 22 Feb 13 - 01:03 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 22 Feb 13 - 01:10 AM
Don Firth 22 Feb 13 - 01:20 AM
GUEST,Guest fron Sanity 22 Feb 13 - 03:12 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 22 Feb 13 - 09:05 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 22 Feb 13 - 09:15 AM
frogprince 22 Feb 13 - 11:10 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 22 Feb 13 - 12:10 PM
frogprince 22 Feb 13 - 12:36 PM
Don Firth 22 Feb 13 - 01:54 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 02:22 PM

Well, the rebuttals came from those who said I was in error in saying homosexuality were being taught in our public schools, and that straight parents did not want that...to which Firth took exception to ONE website that ran the story..accusing 'World Net Daily' of being a 'Conservative website'...HE, as usual, did NOT address my statement that indicated that homosexuality being taught in the schools were an infringement of the rights of those who didn't agree with it...RIGHT?
That being said, amidst the 'denials'...maybe by re-phrasing the key words on the search engine, we can prove ONCE AGAIN, that Don IS in fact in error again....
Goofball lists more than amply demonstrates the type of people and organizations
Look closely, there are 'so-called liberal' sites saying what I am saying...not what you dizzily allege. What else is new???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 02:25 PM

Children should be made aware of the risk factor associated with male to male sex (44 times more likely to be infected by hiv than heteros}
I have no doubt that this figure will never be mentioned, as the vast majority of the population are quite unaware, so well has it been concealed to date.

No, our children will be taugh about "equality", "discrimination" and "homophobia"


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 02:42 PM

Akenaton: "No, our children will be taugh about "equality", "discrimination" and "homophobia"

The so-called liberals' don't give a rat's ass about the children, on this or virtually any other matter...they just use them to argue that their idiotic agendas are about 'protecting them'..blah blah blah...any EVERY time you hear, "..It's for the children.." from ANY of them, you KNOW the subject is horse shit. From Hillary, to Obama to any of them who are looking to bilk the public for more wasteful, corrupt spending, that using that 'tug on the heart strings' argument, will work the emotional side...when logic and truthfulness would never work!!
True Story!!

GfS

P.S. Just look at the deficit and the cost of the bills left to the next generation....if there is one! Think they gave a shit about that??..BOTH PARTIES!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 06:53 PM

Goofball, if you ever got around to reading what people actually write (instead of dividing your already flawed attention by trying to figure out some snotty comeback while you're reading), you might have noticed that I singled out a couple of items on your list, then invited others to do their own survey so they could get an idea of where you seek support for your prejudices.

I am quite familiar with WND because, as I said, I get IT and a number of other Right Wing newsletters in my daily e-mail so I get more than just one viewpoint on the news.

I know that you get your basic opinions on this issue out of your fear of your own genes, and this powers your irrational hatred of homosexuals to the point where you can't see that they are human beings too and deserving of rights. Most normal heterosexuals don't really care one way or the other, as long as someone else's sexual choices don't impinge on them, and this Gay Marriage issue does NOT.

And as far as "teaching homosexuality in schools" is concerned, any good high school health class teaches all aspects of health education including a few weeks on sex education. With some kids, their parents are often so ignorant and so inhibited themselves that high school Health Ed is the ONLY sex education they get. And it should cover the matter of responsibility along with health issues. And that includes the fact that there is such a thing as same-sex orientation within a certain percentage of people.

This (contrary to the beliefs of some very ignorant people) does not "teach homosexuality" in the sense of urging them to become homosexual, which is what people like Goofball and Ake seem to be trying to imply.

Believe me, by the time kids get to school, they already know something about sex. What the sex part of health education classes teach is accurate knowledge and thoughtful responsibility.

At least that's what they should be teaching, assuming competent teachers and no interference from stiff-necked busybodies.

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Liberals don't care about children? You ARE a feckles, lying jackass, Goofball!

When it comes to biased opinions and blind stupidity, Goofball, YOU take the Gold Medal And when it comes to dealing with proven facts, you wouldn't know a proven fact if it bit you on the ass.

But with those genes you're so afraid of, in spite of yourself, you might just enjoy being bitten on the ass.

"Harlequin" indeed! You're the only clown around here.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 07:10 PM

Well said, Don. If our resident homophobics (Guffo and akenaton) were to get their way, and "children were not 'taught homosexuality' in school", then children would be "taught homosexuality" anyway, probably in ways that these two dumbos would approve of far less. In fact, that's how it was always done, remember?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 10:56 PM

Don the Froth: "Believe me, by the time kids get to school, they already know something about sex. What the sex part of health education classes teach is accurate knowledge and thoughtful responsibility."

Believe me??? YOU??..When did YOU EVER send your kid to school????? From What you've said, when he was growing up, the Ol'Lady wouldn't let you near him!

Don Froth: "Liberals don't care about children? You ARE a feckles, lying jackass, Goofball!"

Well, You're a 'so-called liberal'.....see my above comment!

If you knew what you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't be acting like such a hypocritical, pedantic nut job.

I raised my kids..AND helped kids who, like yours, deal with self absorbed 'absent parents'!
YOU have NO RIGHT, due to your lack of concern about your own child, to even offer an opinion..let alone such a lame one as you puked out!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 01:03 AM

Goofball, you know absolutely NOTHING about what you're blathering on about. And you know NOTHING about my life, so give it a rest before you make an even bigger ass of yourself than you already have.

Do you understand the concept of living in different parts of the country, Goofball? That was the situation that existed at the time, and there was nothing that could be done about it. There was no neglect or "lack of concern." Circumstances were such that it was impossible for us all to be together, so we had to make sacrifices for the good of all concerned, and there were very good reasons for the decisions that we made. But not only do YOU not understand, you are incapable of understanding anything like that. You're too selfish and ignorant to understand.

So just shut the hell up about something of which you are totally ignorant before you commit suicide with the same weapon that Samson used against the Philistines.

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I went to school and I knew a whole bunch of other kids who were going to school too. We talked a lot, so along with knowing what I knew, I pretty much knew what they knew, too. Kids DO talk to each other, you know.

At an early age, I had "the talk" with my father. But from what a lot of my school chums thought, their parents were not as well-informed as mine were. Both my father and my mother were health professionals. There was nothing about sex that the high school Health Ed teacher said that I didn't already know, but I knew that some kids were learning it for the first time.

Or maybe you don't know. Maybe other kids didn't talk to you. Judging from the way you carry on here, I can certainly understand why.

But then, maybe you didn't go to school at all. Maybe you were raised in a Dumpster by giant rats and never had a chance to go to school. That would certainly explain a lot.

Or perhaps you're living in a closet. Even to yourself.

Don Firth

P. S. The name "Firth," for those who haven't figured it out, is a Scottish place name.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 01:10 AM

Firth: "I went to school and I knew a whole bunch of other kids who were going to school too. We talked a lot, so along with knowing what I knew, I pretty much knew what they knew, too. Kids DO talk to each other, you know."

Oh!!..No wonder how you became such an 'expert'!!
..BUT..You didn't marry, are shacking up with another person you horns-waggled, was the sperm donor for a child you didn't bother to be a father to, have a couple of homosexual buddies who..."We talked a lot, so along with knowing what I knew, I pretty much knew what they knew, too."....and now you've become an authority on raising children, expound on the virtues of homosexual 'marriage', and promote others to blindly accept your WORD that you even have the foggiest idea about ANY of it!!
Would you take guitar lessons from someone who never even picked up a guitar????????????????????????????????????????..!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 01:20 AM

Dig yourself deeper Goofus.

Like I said, you're incapable of understanding generosity and self-sacrifice in the face of impossible circumstances.

And you more than demonstrate what a really nasty person you are.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest fron Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 03:12 AM

I'm 'nasty'???
Naw..I raised my kids who have done VERY well...and what do you base your whole trip on??...Firth: "I went to school and I knew a whole bunch of other kids who were going to school too. We talked a lot, so along with knowing what I knew, I pretty much knew what they knew, too. Kids DO talk to each other, you know."

Not really interested in much of ANYTHING you have to say about marriage, or who should raise kids or your great experiences in life that have given you such great expertise in ANYTHING related.
Stick to Beethoven. The rest is just jabbering crap..and nasty??...at least I'm not damaging people's lives who believe what I'm talking about!
Can you say as much??..NO!!

Give it a rest. You've been flushed out.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 09:05 AM

""Come on, I don't need another one of your uneducated, biased opinions, concocted out of thin air....try posting an answer to a question or at least SOMETHING based on PROVEN FACTS.....but you can't do that(and you never even question yourselves as to why?), instead of your silly idiot-logue indoctrinations.""

Oooh! We really got stuck into a nerve, didn't we music man?

So, come on, we don't need another one of your uneducated, biased opinions, concocted out of thin air....try posting an answer to a question or at least SOMETHING based on scientifically PROVEN FACTS.....but you can't do that (and you never even question yourself as to why?), instead of your silly idiot-logue pseudo intelligent, pseudo sciaentific crap.

As to answering your questions, if you ever manage to construct one which is comprehensible, pertinent and intelligent, it might be worth the bother.

Even two out of the three might warrant consideration.

Oh yes, you might try coherence when posting, and possibly something which is readable to those whose first language is English?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 09:15 AM

""I raised my kids..AND helped kids who, like yours, deal with self absorbed 'absent parents'!
YOU have NO RIGHT, due to your lack of concern about your own child, to even offer an opinion..let alone such a lame one as you puked out!
""

Wh the F**K do you think you are you supercilious arsehole. How dare , hiding behind a ridiculous, and certainly inaccurate Guest pseudonym, tell a memberb what and whether he has a right to post on this forum.

If you don't like what is posted here, there's always the door, and I hope it hits you in the arse on the way out and knocks you into the gutter, where you belong.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 11:10 AM

"are shacking up with another person you horns-waggled,"

gfs, just a thought; if you are ever stupid enough to say things that filthy, low down, and unjustifiable to anyone who is actually within physical reach, you are f**kin' lucky to be alive.



















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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 12:10 PM

What's a 'memberb'?

frogprince: ".."are shacking up with another person you horns-waggled,"

gfs, just a thought; if you are ever stupid enough to say things that filthy, low down, and unjustifiable"

I didn't say it was "filthy, low down, and unjustifiable"...you did.


(It was part of my 'tools of the trade' to get to the bottom line truth...Oh, and I did warn him!)...

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Feb 13 - 07:12 PM

"........So let's not shit each other...(..and Don, keep your blindly ignorant opinions to yourself on this one...do yourself a favor..trust me!)"


I've been called every hateful name in the book by him, every time he wants to avoid the kernel of the topic. Sometimes the truth comes out 'pleasantly'...sometimes it's a baseball bat between the eyes...but the truth SHOULD come out........it did!

GfS

P.S. I think it would serve everyone well, to lay off on the baseless accusations of 'homophobia' and 'bigotry'..don't you?
Akenaton is LONG overdue for an apology, too!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 12:36 PM

Okay, gfs; since you've established what you consider to be an acceptable and "justifiable" level of discussion here...

Which came first; the time when your mother did the traveling evangelist hustle, or the period when she did the stage act with the pony in Tijuana?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 01:54 PM

Yes, it's true that I know, as friends and acquaintances, a number of gay men, most of whom are in stable relationships with other men. At least three couples I know, who have been together for years, are taking advantage of Washington State's new same-sex marriage law.

Interestingly enough, most of them are attorneys. One is a State Legislator, and one is a music teacher and choir director in a nearby church. He plays the piano beautifully and could easily make a concert career for himself, but says that although he loves playing classical piano music, he doesn't want to "go on the road," which is what a concert career would require. And one of them is a talented published writer who is a member of the writers' group that meets for mutual critique in Barbara's and my apartment once a month.

Each and every one of these individual "gay" men is more of a man than Goofball will ever be.

Goofball says of me that "You didn't marry, are shacking up with another person you horns-waggled (sic), was the sperm donor for a child you didn't bother to be a father to, have a couple of homosexual buddies . . ." and blithers on and on in similar fashion.

I have been married—to the same woman—for thirty-six years. I am not and never have been "shacked up" with anyone. And as to the other circumstance he bloviates about, he would never understand the dynamics involved, and I will NOT try to explain it to him because he doesn't have the capacity to understand concepts like love and sacrificing oneself for the greater good, and all he does with anything I tell him about myself is turn it into an elaborate fiction for the purpose of denigrating me. All he wants to do is trash me.

I will no longer engage this creature in discussion. Trying to argue with him is is merely lowering myself by getting down to wrestle in filth with a swine.

Anything I have to say on the subject to same-sex marriage, I have already said, and those of knowledge and intelligence can judge for themselves. There is no point in endlessly repeating it, trying to drum it into the head of someone with a vested interest in avoiding the truth.

Let him stew in his own fetid juices.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 03:21 PM

"It was part of my 'tools of the trade' to get to the bottom line truth" gfs

"at least I'm not damaging people's lives who believe what I'm talking about!" gfs

If anyone has come to you, in an emotionally vulnerable state, for counselling, and you have supposedly "gotten to the bottom line truth" with them in anything remotely like the way you claim to think you have done here, there can be little doubt that you have done significant damage to some lives.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 03:42 PM

Don Firth: "I will no longer engage this creature in discussion."

Promise??

frogprince: "If anyone has come to you, in an emotionally vulnerable state, for counselling, and you have supposedly "gotten to the bottom line truth" with them in anything remotely like the way you claim to think you have done here, there can be little doubt that you have done significant damage to some lives."

'Biased Assumptions', by their very nature, are false from the beginning.

Getting to the truth, and establishing a point of perception based on actual reality, is the foundation on which one may think and assimilate objectively. How one handles it, is one thing, how it's presented is another....what is necessary to get to the truth, is just necessary...the rest is just thinking it though..and welcoming the right and deeper questions.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 04:01 PM

Nothin' wrong with getting to the truth, gfs; it's just that imagining a bunch of sick crap about people and attempting to rub their noses in it, which is what you have been doing, has nothing whatever to do with getting at the truth.

Would you like to try "getting at some truth" concerning my wife? You just tried to drag Don Firth's wife into your garbage, not just on the basis of imagined facts but in disregard of facts which have been mentioned here any number of times.

If you actually think you've been "getting at truth" around here, you are seriously disconnected from reality. If you just think it's fun to accuse people of anything vile that you can make up, you have a personality disorder severe enough to make you contempable.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 07:12 PM

""I've been called every hateful name in the book by him, every time he wants to avoid the kernel of the topic.""

LIAR! You have deliberately targetted him, and twisted out of all recognition what he posted about his private life, completely altering what he said and using it in the filthiest attack on a member I can recall having seen on the Mudcat.

You are a disgrace to humanity and a perfect example of the fact that some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them.

In addition to your having thrown of the microscopic veneer of decency which disguised you true nature, you have lied repeatedly about the authorship of comments which came from your PC, and about your qualification to offer counselling.

You are in fact the individual most qualified to receive counselling of all who inhabit this forum.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 12:32 AM

DonT: """I've been called every hateful name in the book by him, every time he wants to avoid the kernel of the topic."

LIAR!"

Are you for real??? Go back to our first 'encounter'....even other people came in and were pointing it out to him...and it's been that way ever since....it's a standard 'so-called' liberal tactic..call someone a name with bad connotations of 'hate' and blah blah...problem is it just escalates...and the reason I stand out, they way I do, with the satirical insults, is..well...frankly, mine are a bit wittier!
Some others, on here, are just sorta frothier and more frantic...arm waving, running around in circles, like one shoe is nailed to the floor, flinging spittle, from uncontrollable jowl flapping.

frogprince, Hey, Don and I have discussed his wife, (though he didn't say they were married before, just living together), and went on to extoll her virtues. we've discussed other things, personal to him, as well. I'm not going to go into any further, than to say, our dialogue was on familiar territory,...take a big breath, and relax.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 04:54 PM

Frogprince and Don T., Goofball and I have NOT discussed my wife. But I believe the first time I mentioned her on this website, I said, "my wife, Barbara, a woman of infinite resource and sagacity" (the "infinite resource and sagacity" line from one of Rudyard Kipling's Just So Stories). I would never discuss my wife with someone like Goofball, nor would I ever discuss anything about my personal life with him, because I know he will twist it into some totally unrecognizable bit of pornographic fiction and try to use it to denigrate me.

He is perhaps unaware that through his IP address (every computer on the internet has one, and it is traceable in the same way that a telephone number is traceable) I could have an attorney get the necessary subpoenas, find his true identity, and then sue him for libel and slander until he has nothing left but a pair of dirty socks with a hole in one toe and a stupid smile on his face.

A few more smart remarks out of him and I'm going to give it some serious consideration.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 08:10 PM

"Hey, Don and I have discussed his wife, (though he didn't say they were married before, just living together"

Don Firth never discussed his wife here with anyone, at least on this thread. But he made incidental mention of her a minimum of seven times on the thread. A minimum of three times (Sept.12, Oct.12,Dec. 11) He made it explicit that they are long-married and still together.

Now, go spread out on a mud puddle like a good little blob of scum.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 08:15 PM

None of which, of course, excludes the possibility that Don Firth's wife is a transgendered person whom Don has lived with since before the surgery...


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 08:20 PM

..which, come to think of it, explains why they don't have children together....


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 10:59 PM

Well, simply, it just didn't happen.

Probably the reason we didn't have any children is because we are different species. Although we met here in Seattle, Barbara was born in Nebraska and I was born in Southern California.

But Goofball would probably like this explanation better:   Actually we did have children, at least in a sense. Barbara popped one out every year. We ate them.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 08:23 PM

What a pity that course of action never occurred to Goofie's mother.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 08:54 PM

'Tis indeed a pity. But even if it had occurred to her, her gag reflex probably prevented it.

I guess I can understand that.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 01:34 PM

Myself and a few of the regular musicians who come over have been laughing our asses off at the 'responses'. Lot's of drooling blather sounding so officious, but hilariously lame, preadolescence, with not ONE fact, to back up a 'position(?)...par for the course, considering this in depth, scientific, accumulation of input,I went to school and I knew a whole bunch of other kids who were going to school too. We talked a lot, so along with knowing what I knew, I pretty much knew what they knew, too. Kids DO talk to each other, you know."

Now the co-sponsors of lame jabbering, console each other, with platitudes amounting to, "Oh, that buckshot in the ass didn't really hurt that much, Goofus, (BTW that''s MISTER Goofus, to you) is so 'mean and nasty'..when in reality, it was a self inflicted shot in the ass!!

Just reading reading the 'conciliatory' remarks, we've been howling!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: frogprince
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 02:34 PM

That's remarkable, gfs. How did you find a whole group of people who all:

1. Believe that any opinion that any of them holds trumps anything that has been discovered by scientific inquiry?

2. Believe that the reason that they are all homosexual is that they all made conscious decisions to be that way?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 02:53 PM

"...lame, preadolescence, with not ONE fact, to back up a 'position'...."

The "counsellor" is doing self-analysis?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 03:36 PM

Don, I've been letting myself "bite" here again too. Let's face it: either there is no coherent mind there to actually communicate with at all, or gfs has absolutely no motive here except to keep yanking people's chains. The thread appeared to have died an overdue death a while back, until it (gfs, that is) couldn't take the lack of attention and started babbling again. Let's stop the whole futile business. It may be a little bit interesting to see how many time gfs tries to start it up again, or if he ever really gives up, but there just isn't any point in heaven or hell in bothering to reply to this crap.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 03:53 PM

Ageed! No more.

Froggy, Don T., let's go have a beer.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 06:33 PM

More hilarious 'proof'.
Can't some of you just present either a 'legal' or medical, or scientific...or ANYTHING that backs up WHY homosexual marriage is such a urgent, Civil Rights necessity???...other than SOME homosexuals (and political 'activists') might get their feelings hurt, by not being taken seriously???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 09:30 PM

Here's a question(that probably will not be answered)....

Is bi-sexuality:

1.___Homosexuality?

2.___Genetic?

3.___Behavioral?

4.___Immoral?

5.___Moral

6.___Results of promiscuity?

7.___All of the above?

8.___None of the above?

9.___Answerable, but...,,, ?

See ya' later.....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 09:43 PM

Hey phony counselor, why don't you go discuss it with your phony musician friends (Cecil and lansing?), or be a phony luminary musician and phony composer of songs and movie scores, and go play them for one of your phony audiences that always seems to have tears streaming down their faces.

Real people are sick to death of you.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: akenaton
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 03:12 AM

Well I think Sanity makes some salient points, but as you are unable to answer, you resort to ignorant and childish name calling. this does your cause no good at all.

This is a serious topic and should be discussed as such; how homosexuality is perceived in our society is going to make a huge difference to not only the societal template, but to the future health and life expectancy of hundreds of thousands of young human males
One thing has already been proved,that self-regulation is no longer an option for the majority of young homosexuals.
If they have not been frightened into regulating their sexual behavior by now, they never will.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 08:47 AM

""other than SOME homosexuals (and political 'activists') might get their feelings hurt, by not being taken seriously???""

Aww shut your face Goofie!

You can stay in the closet if you like it in there.

Gay marriage will happen, whatever you think about it, and the world will be a little fairer.

I hope you choke on that thought.

Now I'll join Don F and Froggie for that beer.

Get a life!

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 09:01 AM

Well I think Sanity makes some salient points, but as you are unable to answer, you resort to ignorant and childish name calling. this does your cause no good at all.

You've done your share of that too Ake, but the world's not quite ready for another Pharaoh directing the lives of others in his preferred course.

So we'll leave you and Insanitary to moan to each other about it, and go enjoy some beer and real music.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 10:50 AM

Gay marriage will happen, whatever you think about it, and the world will be a little fairer.

It is already happening. Nothing GfS or Ake can do or say will have any impact on that.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Wesley S
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 12:10 PM

"This is a serious topic and should be discussed as such;"

I've learned over the years that once a topic at the Mudcat goes over 1,000 posts it has long since stopped being a serious topic of discussion. At this point it's just a pissing contest between some folks who don't like each other for a variety of reasons.

Carry on......


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 12:26 PM

KB in Iowa: "It is already happening. Nothing GfS or Ake can do or say will have any impact on that."

KB is obviously correct...however, this emotional hot button topic does not have to pull everybody into it...especially when its premise, is based on bad science with political activism to promote it.
There are a lot of 'accepted' ideas running around, out there in 'policy-land' that are based on fraudulent reasoning...drones, NDAA, Citizens United, homeland security, the Patriot Act, the banks holding onto the 'bailout' money...most of them promoted by the 'so-called' liberal left..but not all.
The gutting of our Constitution's amendments has, and is being, in full swing...but then, the 'activists'(?), use it to promote 'equality' to whatever cause they want to push...not realizing that if you gut it, you have nothing to stand on.
As far as a lot of you, you are just toting the 'party line'...but the same party has, and is, destroying the premise of what you also claim you have as a tool. This is absolute nonsense..in EVERY sense of the word!

AND...

Akenaton: "Well I think Sanity makes some salient points, but as you are unable to answer, you resort to ignorant and childish name calling. This does your cause no good at all.
This is a serious topic and should be discussed as such; how homosexuality is perceived in our society is going to make a huge difference to not only the societal template, but to the future health and life expectancy of hundreds of thousands of young human males."

While this is an indisputable FACT, the banal behavior of the asinine, tactics, only add more proof that the promoters have NOTHING valid to say...except if they say it loud enough, and gather a FEW, who scream and bitch enough, they mistakenly think they are making a false premise a true fact!
In the real world, this is called DELUSION!...but isn't that the point, goal and objective of an ongoing rolling propaganda machine??
Meanwhile, as the basis of societal structure is being attacked, and worn down, the phony agenda of the puppet masters at the top, is being implemented every day we live.

OH, and by the way, the FAILURE to even answer any of the questions, or even address the topic in them IS and SHOULD be ALL the proof anyone needs, to arrive at the conclusion, that a FEW on here, are just blowhards full of shit!....otherwise they wouldn't want to risk being held accountable for their deluded opinions.
So what about bi-sexuality??.....see the choices in the other post..or come up with your own.
...unless your rap is just that....a rap!

GfS

P.S...Akenaton: "Well I think Sanity makes some salient points, but as you are unable to answer, you resort to ignorant and childish name calling."


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Wesley S
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 12:32 PM

.....and the pissing continues.........


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 01:06 PM

Drink up!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 01:32 PM

DonT: "Aww shut your face Goofie!..and,TIA: "Hey phony counselor..."

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 12:00 AM

.....and as per instructed.........which matches the response!


...even though the results of bad science will probably pass...

Hi, Ake!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:27 AM

I notice that one of the more vocal opponents of gay marriage, the Scottish head Catholic bloke, who only the other week spoke of gay sex being an abomination before his God yadda yadda, has stepped down, won't be at the Vatican gig and his title of bigot of the year given by Stonewall is now superceded by hypocrite and rapist of the year.

Abusing young priests using your position to intimidate them is rape isn't it?

Just makes you wonder how many more bigots have skeletons in their cupboard that would explain their illogical stance?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: akenaton
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 12:42 PM

Ian....As i said on the other thread, the priesthood is full of homosexuals.

If Cardinal O'Brien is guilty of "inappropriate conduct" I would not be surprised....just as I was not surprised by the abuse of mainly youths and young men in the recent "Priest abuse cases".
Extreme promiscuity appears to be part and parcel of the lifestyle, and the priethood seems a suitable niche for such people.
That being said, this looks like a classic sting, as the cardinal refutes the allegations and is "taking legal advice"....the timing would suggest that this sting has been carefully planned to derail the church's opposition to homosexual "marriage"

This has no effect on my stance on the issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:39 PM

I thought the "lifestyle" of priests was that they are requited by Ecclesiastical Law to be celibate. Being celibate does not mean just not having sex with women, it means not having sex of any kind.

How can this alleged "sting" derail the church's opposition to homosexual marriage?

It's a whole different issue.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:57 PM

"...Is bi-sexuality:..."

Some of all those, I'd guess. Genetic in part perhaps-- that is hard to establish...but I knew at least two guys years ago who used bi-sexuality to ummm... enhance... life. They were FAR different from those who were simply attracted to only men, as they could 'take it, or leave it alone'. Some men KNOW they are 'different' long before any societal influence or peer pressures.


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