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Subject: Dave Van Ronk
From: Lonesome Dave
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 12:41 PM

Would like recommendations for the essential two or three Van Ronk CDs.


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 02:12 PM

Lonesome,
I am a huge DVR fan. My favorites are:

"Inside Dave Van Ronk" - This is a compilation of two albums from the early 60's - has both blues and folk. 25 songs including Cocaine Blues, You've Been a Good Old Wagon, He Was a Friend of Mine, House Carpenter, Brian O'Lynne, Fair and Tender Ladies, etc.

"Sunday Street" - Just plain one of my favorites.

"Somebody Else, Not Me" - I think they got the name wrong on the CD Cover - Someone Else, Not Me. The CD is worth the price of this song, but has plenty of others as well.

"Going Back to Brooklyn" - Check out Garden State Stomp. After I heard him perform this song, someone yelled out "What Exit" - great NJ humor.

I have every vinyl, tape, and CD I have been able to find. Let me know if you have any questions about any other DVR material.

DW


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 02:14 PM

To WyoWoman, if you raed this thread, I haven't forgotten your tape. I have one side done. Will send soon.
DW


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 03:14 PM

Hey dwd........Great advice...If I were to pick only one, it would be the compilation set...I had that stuff on vinyl....the only thing you miss out on is "watching" DVR perform, which was a gas in itself!!!

...and dwd, sorry you missed your N.C. trip. We need to meet on the road on one of your sojourns...do you go I-77?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Stewie
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 06:43 PM

I reckon Dave Van Ronk 'The Folkways Years 1959-61 Smithsonian/Folkways CD SF 40041 is essential to any Van Ronk collection. The compilation is by Van Ronk himself and Kip Lornell. It has an excellent insert with reflections by Van Ronk, an essay by Lornell and extensive notes on the songs. I love his rendition of Bessie Smith's 'Black Mountain Blues'.

Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Van Ronk Fanatic
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 09:19 AM

Does anyone have any solid back/ground knowledge of the Supposed Jugband lp from about 1958 with Van Ronk & Sam Charters? I think it's on Lyrichord (this is NOT the 64 Mercury Jugstompers lp) Does this lp exist (the lyrichord one) has anyone seen it? Does anyone have a copy??????


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: KOKO( jkokosinski@yahoo.com )
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 03:04 PM

I have a CD called "Dave Van Ronk: Blues Collection" which seems to be a couple of older shows. He does songs like "Jesus Met the Woman at the Well," "Statesboro Blues" and "Babe, Let Me Lay it On You," which is the same music as "Babe, Let me Follow You Down." I saw him up in NY state early this year. I really enjoyed his show. He's an excellent guitar player and a great entertainer. Does anyone have any info on DVR NY/NJ-Area gigs?

Jeff


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 03:30 PM

This is the best DVR site I have found:

www.culcom.net/~shadow/

enjoy
DW


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 03:32 PM

Oops. Should read:

www.culcom.net/~shadow1/


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Lonesome Dave
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 06:47 PM

Thanks for your input. What about the one titled A Chrestomathy?


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 09:05 PM

I have a DVR LP called Dave Van Ronk and the Ragtime Jug Stompers. I can't dig it out to see if Sam Charters is on it. Lonesome Dave, it is not part of the 'essential' DVR collection, though it is a nice album, DVR does not dominate it, it truly is a group effort.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Peter T.
Date: 12 Oct 99 - 10:16 AM

There is a Dave Van Ronk Concert Video, available from Stefan Grossman, which I was privileged to see last week (borrowed from Rick Fielding). Best thing on it was his acappella version of Joni Mitchell's "Song To A Seagull".
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Easy Rider
Date: 12 Oct 99 - 11:24 AM

I'm also a big Dave Van Ronk fan.

My favorite album is "In the Tradition", with the Red Onion Jazz Band. Half the tracks are just him; half are him with the band. They're all great.

I play "The St Louis Tickle" and "Green Rocky Road", and I'm going to learn more, from his video, when I get around to it.

I've been looking for TAB to "Bad Dream Blues" for a long, long time. Does anybody have that song? Does anybody want to transcribe it?

EZR


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 13 Oct 99 - 05:26 AM

The 6 tape audio lession from Stefan Grossman's Guitar workshop are a wonderfully complete set of ramblings by DVR. Oh, and you get to learn about 20 aongs note by note, fret by fret, string by string, along the way.
DW


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: jhenderson
Date: 13 Oct 99 - 12:25 PM

L.Dave asked about A Chrestomathy.

We have it and enjoy it. It is a greatest hits compilation (although it is missing quite a number of songs I would have included). Here now is the however: Since Dave has played in so many different kinds of genres, the juxtaposition of some of the songs can be ear-perturbing, and of all the ways to hear Dave Van Ronk, the way I prefer is just Dave and a guitar. If there was more of just that, I would enjoy the CD more.

jhenderson


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Easy Rider
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 08:38 AM

I just found out about a book of Dave Van Ronk tablature, called "Guitar Stylings of Dave Van Ronk", published by Mel Bay. The trouble is,


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Easy Rider
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 08:41 AM

I just found out about a book of Dave Van Ronk tablature, called "Guitar Stylings of Dave Van Ronk", published by Mel Bay. The trouble is, it just went OUT OF PRINT last December. I think it has the song, "Come Back Baby", in it, which I have been dying to learn for about thirty years.

Does anybody out there have this book? Can you make a copy of "Come Back Baby" for me? Please?

Thanx, EZR


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 09:16 AM

EZR,
Check your messages.
dw


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Easy Rider
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 11:24 AM

Sorry for the stuttering, above.

dwditty, Thanx much. I sent you a response email.


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Art Thieme
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 04:20 PM

Dave VanRonk-Folksinger on Prestige was my all-time favorite LP. If it's on CD, you won't go wrong.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Lucius
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 07:51 PM

I have this scratchy tape of DVR that I have to replace. I think the name is "Whistling in the Dark", or something like that. Tunes like Two Sleepy People; Wrap Your Troubles in Dreams. Dave Van Ronk swings!!

Lucius


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Stewie
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 07:56 PM

Art, it has been reissued on CD under the title 'Inside Dave Van Ronk' which has 2 LPs on a single CD: 'Folksinger'/'Inside'. The reference is Fantasy FCD 24710-2. I bought mine several years ago, so I don't know whether it's still available. Great stuff, particularly his version of 'Poor Lazarus'.

Cheers, Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 08:08 PM

For those of you who don't know, DVR is my very own musical hero. Here is a cool site I referred to above (before I knew how to do the blue clicky). I aksed Dave about this site when I saw him a few months ago. He remembered doing an interview in Chicago. All he said was, Nice fella. For more: "Dave Van Ronk Unauthorized

dw


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: bflat
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 08:29 PM

I own "To All My Friends In Far-Fung Places" a two-CD set with 28 songs. I think it offers a wide swath of his talent. When I had the pleasure of meeting him at the Turning Point in Piermont, NY and we spoke of the CD he said I paid "too much." It was a premium for a $100.00 contribution to a local radio station. Well worth the donation, honestly.

bflat


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: GUEST,alan@alandenise.freeserve.co.uk
Date: 19 Sep 00 - 08:50 PM

Love dave Van Ronk. One of the first guitar pieces i learned was Bad Dream Blues off the Blues project. And Green Green Rocky Road. Does anybody have a set of lyrics for Fanin Street Blues by Leadbelly


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: LDave
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 07:30 PM

Was really surprised to see this thread revived. The guy who does the DVR web page has just released a video on Paul Geremia, which is well worth purchasing. Unfortunately there is no instructional material but there is lots of concert footage. DVR gives a testamonial to Pauls' guitar playing. IMHO Paul Geremia is one of the all time greats and deserves much wider attention.


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 07:44 PM

Lonesome,
I second that emotion. Paul Geremia, as Mbo would say, rules!!!

dw


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Easy Rider
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 09:52 PM

I revived this thread. It was due time to talk about him again, and I was looking for that out of print DVR book.

I wholeheartedly agree, about Paul Geremia. He is one of the GREATS. I drove all the way up to Saratoga to see him, Xmas 1998, and I've seen him at the Bottom Line since. I asked him if he would do a tutorial video for Stefan Grossman, but he didn't want to talk about it. Someone should start a Paul Geremia thread and revive it once in awhile, like this DVR thread.


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 03:56 PM

Speaking of PAUL GEREMIA...

dw


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 03:59 PM

Hey Tiger,
We've got a busy schedule coming up. Paul Geremia 10/14 in Branford, CT, Bromberg 10/16 Troy, NY...ROAD TRIP!!!!!

dw


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 04:11 PM

Aw, what the heck. Might as well throw Roy Book Binder's link in HERE as well.

dw


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: dwditty
Date: 22 Sep 00 - 02:07 PM

And yet another that I want to inlcude in this group:

GEOFF MULDAUR

dw


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: JeffK
Date: 24 Sep 00 - 11:10 PM

OK, I'm new here, but I'm the guy who has the Dave Van Ronk Page at http://www.culcom.net/~shadow1 But I'm especially glad to see all the interest in Paul Geremia. If you have ANY interest in his music, you really have to check out my friend Geoff Mosher's page on him at http://php.indiana.edu/~gmosher/j201/Introduction.html Video clips, interview clips, great page! I had no part in it, so I'm tooting his horn, not my own! But, he got the video clips etc from the footage we shot for the video documentary we did on Paul, "Truth is on the Streets." There's a link about it here: http://culcom.net/~shadow1/Truth.htm If you're interested in the video, let us know, we can get you a copy. Glad to be here at mudcat, at any rate...seems there's some good stuff going on here.

Jeff

p.s. we're working on other documentaries now. Have filmed quite a bit for one on Roy Book Binder, and are currently editing one on Peter Keane...anyone heard of him? He's great!


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Subject: Paul Geremia film
From: JeffK
Date: 24 Sep 00 - 11:13 PM

Originally posted this in the 'Dave Van Ronk' thread, but why not start one with Paul's name on it?

OK, I'm new here, but I'm the guy who has the Dave Van Ronk Page at http://www.culcom.net/~shadow1 But I'm especially glad to see all the interest in Paul Geremia. If you have ANY interest in his music, you really have to check out my friend Geoff Mosher's page on him at http://php.indiana.edu/~gmosher/j201/Introduction.html Video clips, interview clips, great page! I had no part in it, so I'm tooting his horn, not my own! If you want to email him about it, let me know and I'll send his address...I don't think it's on the page, though I could be wrong. But, he got the video clips etc from the footage we shot for the video documentary we did on Paul, "Truth is on the Streets." There's a link about it here: http://culcom.net/~shadow1/Truth.htm If you're interested in the video, let us know, we can get you a copy. Glad to be here at mudcat, at any rate...seems there's some good stuff going on here.

Jeff

p.s. we're working on other documentaries now. Have filmed quite a bit for one on Roy Book Binder, and are currently editing one on Peter Keane...anyone heard of him? He's great!


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: hanleys
Date: 18 May 07 - 12:56 AM

Sorry to bring back a thread that's sat docile for about 7 years, but I recently have gotten more and more into DVR's music, and was curious as to how to play some of his songs. If anyone could supply tabs for the songs "Come Back Baby," "Pastures of Plenty," "Fixin' To Die," and "Stackerlee" it'd be much appreciated.


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 May 07 - 04:36 AM

stackerlee[stagolee]try drop d tuning or standard.Stefan GrossmanHAS it in one of his tab books,Fixing to Die was originally recorded by Bukka White,must also be in tab,[probably in an open tuning]


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 18 May 07 - 08:07 AM

http://www.chordmelody.com/newpage8.htm has some Dave Van Ronk teaching CD's and a DVD. They don't have the particular songs you want, but could help you with his style. They all have TAB booklets accompanying them.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk
From: hanleys
Date: 19 May 07 - 07:40 AM

From what I can tell, Dave's version differs from Booker's. Also, I realized that there were tab books, but I happen to be broke for the time being...hence the asking for them on here.


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