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BS: New Royal Yacht...!

Big Al Whittle 21 Nov 11 - 07:31 PM
GUEST,Bluesman 21 Nov 11 - 07:39 PM
BTNG 21 Nov 11 - 09:45 PM
GUEST,mark-s(on the road) 21 Nov 11 - 10:04 PM
Joe Offer 22 Nov 11 - 03:21 AM
Wolfhound person 22 Nov 11 - 03:54 AM
MGM·Lion 22 Nov 11 - 04:21 AM
GUEST,Owen Bennett 22 Nov 11 - 05:38 AM
Big Al Whittle 22 Nov 11 - 06:15 AM
theleveller 22 Nov 11 - 06:27 AM
MGM·Lion 22 Nov 11 - 07:32 AM
GUEST,leeneia 22 Nov 11 - 09:38 AM
BTNG 22 Nov 11 - 09:55 AM
BTNG 22 Nov 11 - 09:58 AM
GUEST,Owen Bennett 22 Nov 11 - 10:31 AM
Charley Noble 22 Nov 11 - 10:52 AM
BTNG 22 Nov 11 - 11:00 AM
Big Mick 22 Nov 11 - 11:41 AM
MGM·Lion 22 Nov 11 - 12:04 PM
BTNG 22 Nov 11 - 12:28 PM
BTNG 22 Nov 11 - 12:29 PM
Joe Offer 22 Nov 11 - 12:31 PM
Jack the Sailor 22 Nov 11 - 12:35 PM
GUEST,Eb 22 Nov 11 - 12:48 PM
BTNG 22 Nov 11 - 01:12 PM
GUEST,Eliza 22 Nov 11 - 01:28 PM
Jack the Sailor 22 Nov 11 - 01:29 PM
BTNG 22 Nov 11 - 01:33 PM
GUEST,Eliza 22 Nov 11 - 01:38 PM
Jack the Sailor 22 Nov 11 - 01:40 PM
GUEST,Eliza 22 Nov 11 - 01:43 PM
GUEST,Eliza 22 Nov 11 - 01:52 PM
BTNG 22 Nov 11 - 02:07 PM
gnu 22 Nov 11 - 03:12 PM
BTNG 22 Nov 11 - 03:27 PM
GUEST,Jon 22 Nov 11 - 03:45 PM
Jack the Sailor 22 Nov 11 - 04:00 PM
Stilly River Sage 22 Nov 11 - 04:12 PM
JennieG 22 Nov 11 - 04:34 PM
Big Al Whittle 22 Nov 11 - 05:37 PM
GUEST,JTS 22 Nov 11 - 11:16 PM
JennieG 22 Nov 11 - 11:34 PM
Jack the Sailor 23 Nov 11 - 12:06 AM
Joe Offer 23 Nov 11 - 01:58 AM
JennieG 23 Nov 11 - 03:08 AM
GUEST,Eliza 23 Nov 11 - 05:22 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 23 Nov 11 - 05:45 AM
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Subject: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 07:31 PM

Apparently there is a campaign to buy the Queen a new royal yacht.

She could sell the Van Dycks to the National Gallery, then we could all see them when we wanted. That would buy her a new yacht, and we would all get something out of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 07:39 PM

Bless her. Maybe they could come back in three years when they get an education ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:45 PM

Education isn't a common thing among certain families, I mean they go to school and all, but they have this genetic incapability to actually learn. It's very common among the inbred and those who support and vote Conservative.

Al, maybe sell of some of her real estate holdings that should bring in a few quid! (thinks: "I wonder Balmoral and the surrounding land is worth?") :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,mark-s(on the road)
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 10:04 PM

Can I get a ticket good for a cruse? Or did it get lost in the mail with my invitation to the royal wedding?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 03:21 AM

Royal yachts are a fascinating anachronism, perhaps, but anachronisms can be fun. Apparently, The Royal Yacht Britannia was decommissioned in 1997 and is open to tourists in Edinburgh. Admission is £11.00, £9.50 for us old folks over 60. I didn't find a cruise schedule - too bad.

Wikipedia has a List of Royal Yachts of the United Kingdom. and a fascinating article on Royal yachts in general.

The Daily Mail has an interesting article on the Britannia.

We tourists find all this monarchy stuff very entertaining.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Wolfhound person
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 03:54 AM

You don't have to pay for it, Joe.

Paws


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 04:21 AM

On the contrary, Paws ~~ Joe has just shown that he did pay for it, by paying the £9.50 concessions entry fee for the old one. Big tourist attraction; bet it makes a lot of money.

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Owen Bennett
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 05:38 AM

"Education isn't a common thing among certain families, I mean they go to school and all" reading that statement BTNG, we are able to see that.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 06:15 AM

How much do you bet MGM? I bet you'd have a few takers on that one.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: theleveller
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 06:27 AM

No need for a new royal yacht - for a number of years since she gave up Britannia old Lizzie has chartered this for a week:

Hebridean Princess


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 07:32 AM

I don't actually ever bet, Al. It's a killer ~~ a compulsive betting man left a widow close to me destitute in her old age.

I don't drink or smoke either. How can anyone be such a boring old fart!

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 09:38 AM

Michael, Michael, you're not a boring old fart. You're an interesting old fart.

Never mind the yacht. How are the twins faring? I haven't heard a word since the initial announcement.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 09:55 AM

Owen Bennett or whoever you really are, I was making a point...and there nothing wrong with the sentence as it stands, and it is a truism


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 09:58 AM

What is with the Americans facination with thing royal, I mean they won they're country by disavowing the monarchy in the first place. What's the matter, you want back in? *LOL* Bit late!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Owen Bennett
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 10:31 AM

Indeed BTNG, we also won two a couple of wars for you, and Britain never bothered to pay us back for World War One or Two!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 10:52 AM

I've always been fond of HMY Mary: click here for Model PIX!

Although I heard she came to a sorry end.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 11:00 AM

sorry you really do need to read your history, before making idiotic statements like that the lend lease loan was repaid:

Payment was to be stretched out over 50 annual payments, starting in 1951 and with five years of deferred payments, at 2% interest.[27] The final payment of $83.3 million (£42.5 million), due on 31 December 2006 (repayment having been deferred in the allowed five years), was made on 29 December 2006 (the last working day of the year). After this final payment Britain's Economic Secretary to the Treasury, Ed Balls, formally thanked the U.S. for its wartime support.

As to World War I, the US stayed out of it till 1917. The American presence made little or no difference to the final outcome.

It should also be noted that the US were not the only country loan the UK money for reconstruction, Canada also did, and they were repaid as well, so...the UK owes you nothing.

by the by Bennett, who's "we"?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 11:41 AM

First off, Owen Bennett, let us make it clear that you are speaking only for yourself. You do not represent "Americans"

Mick takes off his member hat and puts on his moderator hat

Please remember to stay on topic. Several posts above border on personal attack and argument. It is not necessary to be disagreeable when in disagreement. No more personal jabs allowed.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 12:04 PM

"Michael, Michael, you're not a boring old fart. You're an interesting old fart."
.,,.
Gee, thanks, Leeneia.

BLUSH BLUSH


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 12:28 PM

yup that's right

all the best

BTNG


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 12:29 PM

ooops...I mean, yes, total waste of British taxpayers money, old Queenie wants a new boat, let her buy it herself. *LOL*


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 12:31 PM

Is the initiative to get the taxpayers to pay for a new yacht, or is the yacht going to be donated?
Has anybody seen news stories about this new yacht?
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 12:35 PM

It seems to me that the "prestige" of traveling on the Royal Yacht, and the amount of time the Royals actually spend on it could pay for at least the use of a cruise ship. People pay thousands of dollars to ride on a boat with the likes of "The Barenaked Ladies" and "Glen Beck" How much more would they spend to sail with royalty?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Eb
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 12:48 PM

Hard about

From the other room my little daughter at play called to me: Mommy, do royalty ever marry mortals?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 01:12 PM

Indeed who would fork over the estimated £80m for the cost of a replacement royal "yacht"?
source of that figure, by the way was that esteemed rag the Daily Stale (err..Mail)

'ave you ever seen the like before?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 01:28 PM

According to the Daily Mail (who initiated the campaign to build a new Royal Yacht on 12th November this year, and designed a blueprint of it) the 80 million pounds would be funded by 'donations from individuals and corporations'. It would, they say, earn its keep by being chartered by various organisations. If these 'individuals and corporations' have 80 million pounds to spend, would it not be better to use the money to generate employment for the young? Or any other charitable/beneficial enterprise? And why let the Queen use it? What does she propose to contribute financially? (Nothing, I bet!)


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 01:29 PM

£80m, That is peanuts!


Cowboy's stadium 1.2 billion Keep in mind that a football stadium is built to host only about 12 home games per year.

You could get a big chunk of dough just for the naming rights. Then\, there would be the private suites, £1,000 meals at the royal table. You could

Breaking news on Anderson Cooper everywhere....Prince Harry, just arrived in New York aboard the Royal Yacht Royal Bank of Scotland. He will be speaking at the UN and doing some shopping.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 01:33 PM

well go ahead, Jack, contribute. It seems Eliza and myself won't be getting an invite anytime soon, for being unpatriotic and NOT contributing


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 01:38 PM

Well, 80 million pounds would probably fund a few daycare centres for old and disabled folk. Or some schemes for helping youngsters to obtain qualifications for jobs. Or affordable first-homes for young couples. etc etc. Anything is better than a great big boat for HM to swan around in!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 01:40 PM

You do not seem to realize the valuable contribution I am giving right here on this thread. I am suggesting that the Crown commercialize the whole thing. I am sure that you have heard the argument that the Royals are worth the tax dollars spent because of the tourism money generated. I am simply suggesting that it be taken one step further and run like a US sports franchise.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 01:43 PM

By the way, I see that the on-the-night total for the Children-in-Need event was 26 million. If these wealthy boat contributors would instead donate to that very worthy cause, they might do some good. 80 million would be only too gratefully received.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 01:52 PM

I see what you're getting at , Jack. But would Her Maj be prepared to appear in this commercial enterprise? No-one would pay to board the Royal Yacht unless the 'Royal' was present. She already makes a mint by charging an arm and a leg to visit a few State rooms of Buck Palace. But a mere boat would need some incentive to command £1000 entry tickets. Maybe the corgis...? Be photographed wearing Princess Beatrice's weird Wedding Hat? Free tupperware cereal boxes...?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 02:07 PM

Social needs must come before fluffy toys for H.M. and no excuses.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: gnu
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 03:12 PM

"we also won two a couple of wars for you"

Ahhh, you watched the news reels?

Read some history books instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: BTNG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 03:27 PM

I aleadt explained to ermmmm....our noted colleague..."Bennett", that lend lease and reconstruction loans have long been repaid both to the U.s and to Canada. It's all on the net, "Bennett".


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 03:45 PM

I quite like the idea of sending them off on cruises for wealthy tourists.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 04:00 PM

There are so many Royals and they are always going somewhere. Obviously they could charge more for Liz's grand kids than Anne's.

You could have a petting zoo! Liz's corgi's! Anne's horses, Camila's tampons!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 04:12 PM

Eb - cute line! It didn't go unnoticed!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: JennieG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 04:34 PM

When I was 8YO or so I was determined that when I grew up I would become queen......I remember a friend saying to me quite seriously (8YO girls can be very serious) that there hadn't been a Queen Jennifer before so it was possible I could become queen.

So.....when I become queen (I'm still waiting) and buy the new Royal Yacht, you are all invited to the inaugural Mudcat Royal Yacht Shindig. Tiaras optional. Royal Yacht Shanty Singing will begin at 5pm.

Cheers
JennieG.....Queen Jennifer to the rest of the world


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 05:37 PM

When you're Queen Jennifer, can I have that gig where I stand behind you with a wig on, opening the door?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 11:16 PM

I'm voting for Eliza for Queen. She promised to give us tiaras as party favors on her Royal Yacht cruise.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: JennieG
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 11:34 PM

For sure, Al, you can have the gig with the wig! JTS, I already own a tiara....a gen-u-ine 1960s rhinestone tiara. It is very pretty, even if the diamonds aren't real. Perhaps Eliza and I could reign jointly? But I'm not sharing my tiara, she will have to supply her own.

Do we have any suggestions for Royal Yacht Shanties? All suggestion welcome, either known or composed-on-the-spot shanties. May Gawd bless all those who sail in....sorry, on.....her.

Cheers, and a regal wave to youse all,
Queen Jennifer


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 12:06 AM

We are the Royals and we're strangers to toils
cruising along on our yacht
We're richer than Midas, our subjects are not!
Cruising along on our yacht.
The Yankees can stay if they're able to pay.
Cruising along on our yacht.
We love to sow off the stuff that we got
Cruising along on our yacht.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 01:58 AM

Gee, wouldn't 80 million pounds help an ailing British shipyard? Or is the yacht to be built in China?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: JennieG
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 03:08 AM

LOL, Jack.....very good!

Cheers
Queen Jennifer


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 05:22 AM

LOL! I have SEVERAL million-pound tiaras of my own, thank you Queen Jennifer! As to the throne, if it's going to be a joint one, please make it very wide. (I'm rather broad on the beam)
This enterprise is beginning to look good, you know. Lovely sea shanties by Mudcatters, viewing Camilla's tampons, free tiaras, petting zoo, cabaret by HM every night and no doubt lashings and lashings of... champagne! (apologies to Enid Blyton) People would pay oodles of dosh. It could go on worldwide cruises to pick up Mudcat passengers from all over. Build it now!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 05:45 AM

""Owen Bennett or whoever you really are, I was making a point...and there nothing wrong with the sentence as it stands, and it is a truism""

Not so much a truism, as a completely ridiculous pejorative slur on a large proportion of the population, born, one supposes out of envy.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 05:54 AM

""Indeed BTNG, we also won two a couple of wars for you, and Britain never bothered to pay us back for World War One or Two!""

You arrived very late, and only when you were directly attacked, as a little research will show.

A little further research will elicit the information that the last of Britain's war debt was paid on Tuesday January 4th 2007.

An apology for the blatant lie might be in order?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 06:09 AM

""Gee, wouldn't 80 million pounds help an ailing British shipyard? Or is the yacht to be built in China?""

I don't think this lot are interested in common sense Joe. They're too busy scoring cheap points.

Anyway, thus far there is nothing to indicate that this is anything more than a myth generated by the Daily Snail to sell a few more copies.

Still it's given our more prominent anti royals another opportunity to spout their usual half truths and inaccuracies.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Royal Yacht...!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 07:15 AM

Cheap points!! Cheap indeed! That was my best tampon joke!


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