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Little Hawk 15 Nov 11 - 06:16 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 15 Nov 11 - 06:38 PM
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Subject: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 06:16 PM

Why do people continue to put up with broadcasts of this prissy and patently offensive sport, Tiddlywinks? Why are tiny amounts of money wasted in funding such a tawdry and decadent spectacle? Has anyone given consideration to how it affects public morals and downgrades people's respect for the sanctity of life? Why would pimply middle class dweebs from the suburbs let themselves be suckered into hunkering down at a kitchen table and playing Tiddlywinks for hours on end just to entertain a cretinous mob of salivating spectators?

Or...2 or three bored relatives and a Poodle...as the case may be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 06:38 PM

The favorite shipboard game of the crews of the ships of Christopher Columbus during the long voyages to discover new lands.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 06:39 PM

The Poodle doesn't play anymore, so it's all down to the relatives


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 06:45 PM

Well, but the Poodle watches, surely?

I bet it's hard to play accurately on a rough day at sea. Still, a true aficionado doesn't let a little bad weather get in the way of squapping a wink or two.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 06:48 PM

I believe this thread should start off with a little abuse. I know, its music below the BS beltline. But, here it goes.

Beware, abuse!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:05 PM

I remember once driving along a corduroyed logging road attempting to play tiddlywinks....


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:09 PM

Oh come on Ed, let's Be Nice


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:46 PM

I thought the Poodle was there so the assistant coach would have someone to sodomize.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:05 AM

Defensive coordinator???

He looks pretty offensive to me!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:15 AM

That's a cute song by Lily. She sort of reminds me of Veronica Rutledge. Very perky and bright. Not a girl who would waste her time watching the Tiddlywinks Playoffs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:54 AM

The following video clip should make it quite plain how awful and culturally destructive Tiddlywinks is, as it exposes some hardcore Tiddlywinksters up to their usual dastardly behaviour. Very nasty! These are NOT people you want marrying your daughters! Or even talking to them, for that matter.

Ultimate Tiddlywinks!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 01:09 AM

A very skilful game, excellent for one's co-ordination. How can anyone knock it?!

My first wife's most brilliant contemporary at Newnham College, Cambridge, an Oz girl called Eleanor Reille, who got a double **d First in English, thought herself honoured to marry the captain of the University Tiddlywinks Team against Oxford. [True].

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Paul Burke
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 02:04 AM

Tiddlywinks League is a real man's game. Tiddlywinks Union is for wimps. They wear body armour for American Tiddlywinks.

What's this word "jejeune"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 02:18 AM

It is actually correctly spelt 'jejune' = immature; but sometimes spelt as above thru confusion with 'jeune', French for young.

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:46 AM

Ah but there are tiddlers, and there are winkers. Which one are you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:54 AM

☞nudge-nudge☜

〠wink-wink〠

☺~M~☺


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: David C. Carter
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:54 AM

One can easily tell who the"winkers"are:They wear jampot glasses!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: David C. Carter
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:15 AM

Are we talking Bare Knuckle Tiddlywinks?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Will Fly
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:39 AM

Cage fighting tiddlywinks for me...


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 07:03 AM

Why not? It get's the family together, away from the tv, doesn't require batteries and can be quite entertaining especially if you have had one or three.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 09:10 AM

Pound-for-pound, who was the best tiddlywink player, of all time?

I know this may stimulate agressive debate, and even personal attacks, and the, tit-for-tat, throwing of personal laundry items at the victims of the contrary-mind. But, bring it on, winkers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 09:13 AM

""Yo 'suttinly am de mos' contrary-minded specimen ob de chicken fambly dat I eber seed," observed Washington, breathing heavily, for his run had winded him."
Lost on the Moon Or, in Quest of the Field of Diamonds


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 09:21 AM

""The trouble with the contrary-minded is they have an established habit of resistance."" from, Nerves and Common Sense


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 09:58 AM

Dora Field-Mouse (later Dame Dora Field-Mouse) was considered be quite the spark in tiddlywinks circles in the late 19th to early 20th century (the usual suspects, will want to indulge themselves in the 1945 definition of what is tiddlywinks, and whether tiddlywinks as we know it existed before this date, but let's not, for once.
Miss Field-Mouse is, perhaps best remembered for the controversisl, but very bold, for it's time, the Field-Mouse Maneuver, which was in effect a no win situation, and the only way a person could win was by cheating. (this was later adapted by the writers of a 20th and 21st century television and film science fiction series).


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:28 AM

He he he you really want some action, try pick-up-sticks! Remember how completely pointy those were? Tiddlywinks was (were?) for wimps!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:37 AM

I wonder if the previous poster has ever played tiddlywinks, with manhole covers? (Mervyn Harris who worked at the Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch coal mine in Cwm Rhondda, South Wales)was considered by many to be the all-time master in the particular branch of the game) Wimps you say?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:38 AM

It's the silly name that gives this great and skilful game its faintly ludicrous air, leading to misconceived manifestations like this silly thread.

If only they had thought to call it connivati parvi from the start!

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:40 AM

BTNG ~ It's your punctuational crassness that gives me my laughs. What is that otiose bracket doing in the middle of your last post?

Be ashamed.

Be very ashamed...

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:48 AM

The modernization of the game has resulted in high-tech recognition for some. Whether to break up an otherwise dreary day or prompt deeper philosophical reflections, one must admit that the game has a history.


'Lilla Estelle Appleton, a century ago, submitted a dissertation to the faculty of the Graduate School of the Arts and Literature (University of Chicago) in candidacy for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy, entitled "A Comparative study of the play activities of adult savages and civilized children - an investigation of the scientific basis of education".

She had this to say about the education of the day:

"For example, there are no highly specialized finger plays at all comparable, in delicacy of movement, to piano playing, or even to the simple modern games of "crockonole" or "tiddledywinks," plays in which the result sought is dependent upon the perfect control of the small muscles of the fingers, the rest of the body being comparatively quiescent."'

###################################################

'Tiddlywinks Perversions... The Only Way to Have Fun!

Perversions are variations on the traditional tournament game. Just about anything goes!

Sunshine's remarkable tome, Alleghany Airlines Book Club Presents is the source authority for all winks perversions'

#################################################

It is self-evident that changes of that nature deserve to be stricken from the internet which of course was not available due to lack of computers in the late 1800s.

However, the real problem was the dearth of squidgers when the game was passed by word of mouth in the 1800s.

"Players use a "squidger", a disk usually made from plastic to move a wink into flight by pressing down on one side of the wink."

Plastics which were discovered and developed in the 1880s allowed for improvements to the game, but new technologies have given the advantage to modern players, thus showing BTNG's post to have both a veracity but also a certain short-sightedness regarding the 1945 definition.

With respect, we must not allow these modern societies and rule changers to slap the face of traditional tiddlywinks, for there there be dragons.

Clive Oswald Barcouth


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 10:52 AM

if you think it's crass, themn I am proud to be crass, MtheGM it is an honour to be considered crass...oh and please stop ruining a fun thread, by your off topic remarks


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 11:25 AM

OK, then, if not for wimps, it's still outete, jetre, and effune.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 11:41 AM

Bee-dubya-ell, any of that with the Poodle could have serious consequences!

My grandma taught me Tiddlywinks and I taught it to my grandson. Still love and we ain't none a'us wimps!:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:02 PM

Coo-ee. Hullo, Bumface The Nogood Gashlycrumbtiny!!!

'N tara-well, Your Crassness...


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:06 PM

you are sad, MtheGM...very sad...go away


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:14 PM

☹ ☹ ☹ ☹ ☹ ☹ ☹ ☹ ☹ ☹


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:21 PM

stop wrecking a fun thread!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:24 PM

☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 01:07 PM

I'm glad to finally see some serious, substantive and open discussion of this so-called "sport". It's about time that the exploitation of suburban nerds by the Tiddlywink franchise had the light of public scrutiny shone brightly upon it in no uncertain terms. I trust that we can, in this way, move forward to a more enlightened society which looks askance on practices such as "squapping a wink", especially before mid-morning tea!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 01:15 PM

for information on tiddlywinks in Canada, please get in touch with the Rev. Ernest Bucket at CNTWA (Canada National Tiddlywinks Association) head office Moose's Ear, Saskatchewan


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 01:26 PM

Really? Gosh, I wonder if he's related to Hyacinth Bucket?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 01:49 PM

second cousin ten times removed (meaning he has been removed for unlawful loitering)

for those wondering the Rev's last name is pronounced bouquet


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 02:22 PM

Wasn't Dame Dora reaped in 1900?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: gnu
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 02:29 PM

Little known fact... the game originated as a gambling game in bars where the object was to get coins in a shot glass. Success won a drink on the opponent. When I have related the aforegoing previously, I was met, at times, with doubt but I can prove it. Ya'd have to be drunk to come up with such a silly-ass game... am I right, people?

Now... who the fuck came up with crokinole, and jumping jacks and... and why? I suspect hard liquor again. Or, all could have simply been an attempt to create indoor games for children to be occupied with in foul weather. Of course, when played by adults, gotta be hard liquor involed eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 03:10 PM

Ahhh the much publicised 1900 "Reaping" incident, I believe it took place in Battersea Park and involved....no wait that was some thing else altogether...I know it involved an exchange of monies, something about keeping quiet about the whole thing till the child was of a legal age and could tiddle its own wink, at least that's how it was translated in the French press of the day


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 03:27 PM

Ernest Bucket is related to Dropintha, his niece once removed (and twice shy).

However, this jocularity is somewhat disheartening. You lot--the regular ne'er-do-wells in whose company I am privileged to place myself--are avoiding the crux of the matter:

##################################

No one has yet mentioned the potential for tiddlywinks to solve the problem of war. Armies would be of equal number, and troops would play their opposition in sudden death (pardon the turn of phrase) games. The winner of the war would be decided by total point counts. We could work out a handicapping system, something functional yet simple. There is real potential in this and I hope you'll take the idea seriously.

About the empty space after "crux of the matter", I forgot what I was gonna say.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: JennieG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:06 PM

Many sports have been rocked by scandals of some sort......sexual misconduct of the players, players taking bribes, players throwing games (and sometimes even throwing their opponents). Is there a possibility that such unsportsman and unsportswoman-like behaviour will tarnish the good name of the gentle pastime of Tiddlywinks? I, for one, would not like to see the game brought into disrepute.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:00 PM

'Jeer if joyful, detested un-keen wit.'

Says it all realy.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:03 PM

Yes, Dropintha has been described as being one or two bricks shy of load, not unlike some I could mention, she did however possess a keen sense of humour, unlike some I could mention


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:44 PM

I think it's "Dropinthia", isn't it? "Dropintha" just doesn't sound right to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:54 PM

"I, for one, would not like to see the game brought into disrepute."

I agree JennieG. Houses of, OK, but NOT tiddlywinks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:06 PM

Dropinthia", isn't it? "Dropintha

apparently she would sign both names on cheques, that was what got her into trouble with her bookmaker in the first place (betting on the outcome at the Tiddlywink Worlds in 1912).


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:15 PM

Since Tiddlywinks was a Victorian era game, I feel compelled to lead you to a Victorian era cartoon:
Victorian side saddle


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:19 PM

Get my drift:

A bit of side saddle history


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 06:29 PM

Tuips for the woman, from the Victorian era:
Vapours and Hysteric Fits.
Some of the Symptoms are, a Thumping at the Heart, a Croaking of the Guts and a Fulness of the Stomach. She has a great Heaviness and Dijection of Spirit, and a Cloud seems to hang upon all her Senses. She is continually out of Humor, she knows not Why, and out of Order, she knows not Where. In the first place I would have her Stomach cleansed with a vomit of Indian Physic.
The rest of the cure can be preformed by an exact Observation of the following Rules: -
Endeavor to preserve a Cheerful spirit, putting the best Construction on Everybodys Words and Behavior.
Plunge three mornings every week into cold water, which will rouse the Sluggish Spirits surprisingly. Stir Nimbly about your affairs.
I forbid all sorts of Drams which will rise the Spirits only to sink them, nor do I allow one Pinch of Snuff or one drop of Bohea Tea, which makes people very Lumpish and Miserable. Nor must she eat one morsel of Beef which inclines People too much to Hang themselves. She must suffer none of the Disturbances and Disappointments of an Empty world to prey upon her Mind or ruffle her sweet Temper. She must be cheerful in Spite of a Churlish Husband or Cloudy Weather.

Hints for Gentlewoman at Table.
A Gentlewoman being at table abroad or at home must observe to keep her Body straight, and lean not by any means with her Elbows, or by ravenous Gesture discover a voracious appetite; talk not when you have Meat in your Mouth; do not smack like a Pig nor venture to eat spoonmeat so hot that the Tears stand in your Eyes, which his as unseemly as the Gentlewoman who pretended to have as little Stomach as she had Mouth, and therefore would not swallow her Peas by Spoonful, but took them one by one and cut them in two before she would eat them. It is very uncomely to drink so large a Draught that your Breath is almost gone, and are forced to blow strongly to recover yourself, throwing down your Liquor as into a Funnel is an Action fitter for a Juggler than a Gentlewoman. In carving at your own Table distribute the best Pieces first, and it will appear very comely and decent to use a Fork, so touch no piece of Meat without it.

To Extinguish Fire in the Female Dresses
So many fatal Accidents arise from light Dresses catching Fire no Manual for Females is complete without the following cautions.
1st. Let every Female mind be impressed that Flame tends always upward: that she will burn more rapidly if upright than if laid on the Floor.
2nd. Give instant alarm by screaming or pulling the Bell, (which is usually near the fire-place), but if possible avoid opening the door.
3rd. The Alarm should be given while the Female is rolling in the rug, tearing off the burnt clothes, or turning her clothes over her head.
4th. A Man may quickly strip off his coat and wrap it around a Female.
5th. If the Victim cannot save herself entire, let her protect her bosom and the face by crossing her hands and arms over these parts.
6th. A Piece of green or scarlet-baize called a Fire-extinguisher should be in universal Use in Sitting-Rooms and Nurseries, and its Name and use known, although it serve as a Table or Piano-forte Cover.
7th. Let the injured Person have cold Water plentifully pored over them if they cannot be immersed in water till Medical Advice is obtained.
source


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 11:23 PM

"effete, jejune, outre.." Yes, once I thought the same. I took tiddlywinks to be a game for pantywaists and mollycoddles. But LH's link (above) shows the game played by tough dudes indeed.

So tough, in fact, that they can't spell 'brief.'


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 01:18 AM

Scary, isn't it? Tiddlywinks has gone gangsta!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 08:33 AM

Not really, LH. I thought the guys in your video were pretty cute.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 10:20 AM

tiddlywinks went gangsta the moment Matilda "Throckers" Leaper-Fox entered the picture


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:04 AM

I saw that picture, and there was a lot of winking. Good job I wasn't tiddly


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:05 AM

Oh and, BTW, do a search for The Winking Song by Ivor Biggun, aka Doc Cox


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:46 AM

Rogue Tiddlywinks: secret U.S. Army film footage


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 05:52 PM

Don't be silly, BTNG, those aren't tiddlywinks, those are rogue hubcaps. Well, two hubcaps glued together.

I'm afraid, very afraid. I saw one of those just last week in my own neighborhood, propped up against a tree.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 06:09 PM

That's exactly what the army wants you to believe...think hub caps...stupid civilians couldn't even begin to conceive of the idea of tiddlywinks 100 feet across, and the size of the pot....welllll, about the size of the Capitol Dome turned upside down.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 09:01 PM

Sunshine, you're squopped out. If you think you're potting out, but you're just rabbit-bashing. Remember, fiat vincs ruat cælum.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 09:21 PM

That frisbie's not so shabby


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 09:36 PM

""Tiddlywinks 100 feet across, and the size of the pot!""


"That's why I always carry an extra pair of underpants."


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 09:36 PM

fiat vincs ruat cælum · let winks be played, though the heavens crumble

Indeed!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 04:16 AM

Canine tiddlywinks


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 04:35 AM

I was a tiddlywinks fan back in the old rough and tumble days, but I haven't watched a tournament since they started disqualifying players for trying to intentionally put opponents' eyes out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 07:30 AM

We used to play Tiddlywinks where I grew up. But, we later stoped because we could'nt get enough hay to feed the horses.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 07:34 AM

Starbucks beware


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 09:49 AM

We played Tiddlywinks when I was but a tad, but one by one we had to sell the winks to make ends meet and eventually all we had was tiddly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 10:15 AM

"We used to play Tiddlywinks where I grew up. But, we later stoped because we could'nt get enough hay to feed the horses."

Hay, no tiddly. Has a nice ring to it. Might make a catchy song intro.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 10:34 AM

(Tiddly Pom)
The more it goes
(Tiddly Pom)
The more it goes
(Tiddly Pom)
On snowing.

And nobody knows
(Tiddly Pom)
How cold my toes
(Tiddly Pom)
How cold my toes
(Tiddly Pom)
Are growing.

The more it snows
(Tiddly Pom)
The more it goes
(Tiddly Pom)
The more it goes
(Tiddly Pom)
On snowing.

And nobody knows
(Tiddly Pom)
How gold my toes
(Tiddly Pom)
How cold my toes
(Tiddly Pom)
Are growing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: BTNG
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 10:42 AM

"If you think you're potting out"

we tried potting out once, but got nicked and charged with possession with intent to traffic.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 12:45 PM

"I first realised I was a winker when I completed a double-squop at my first competition and saw that wink drop in the pot winning me the competition and scooping me the prize of 35 pence. From then on I couldn't go a day without ploinking my tiddly in a pot," Russell told Winking World, the official journal of the English Tiddlywinks Association."

When he was almost the 2008 tiddlywinks world champ.

His story can be read here and it's a story worth reading, imo. It is a tale filled with wit, political intrigue and one man's insightful observations. Here's to you Russell Brand. It should be mentioned that he is an Englishman.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 03:52 PM

This guy plays tiddlywinks


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 06:49 PM

Trixy and tiddly


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 07:00 PM

It's the ennui' of the game I find seductive


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 09:25 PM

After we sold all of our winks we still had the urge to tiddly. We, however, lived in a VERY rough and tough neighborhood. For instance, babies where weaned straight to cheap whiskey and their older siblings stole hubcaps from moving cars. So we used manhole covers as winks and the basement of houses as a pot (roofs were never an obstacle). This added a new and exciting dimension, as sometimes you had to squidge off standing in the sewer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 09:58 PM

""their older siblings stole hubcaps from moving cars""

Luxury! The moving cars in our neighbourhood did'nt have hubcaps or wheels.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 08:12 AM

You guys are from the rich folks' yard. We didn't have cars.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 08:45 AM

We lived in an abandoned car, with no windows, motor, seats, wheels or hubcaps. But, we were evicted from the car. We were then forced to live under a volkswagen camper trunk lid, all forty of us kids. Yes, we did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 09:24 AM

Oh no you didn't!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 10:14 AM

Yes he did, 'cause he lived next door to the topless-bottomless-sideless cardboard box my family lived in. And the cars that hubcaps were stolen from were those which were driven by people with an income. The really tough kids also stole their wheels and tires as they passed by, spitting on us who had a negative income balance. When they'd do that we all ran out and stole the car's body and engine as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 10:45 AM

Wassn't no cars when I wuz a nipper. We stole the back wheels off'n these
All they had left was these


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 11:14 AM

That's the epitome of wussdom. Our bikes didn't have spokes. And some of the less well-off kids didn't even have seats.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 11:32 AM

Luxury, the wheels that we had, that were stolen before we got them, were square.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25831992@N03/2724551187/


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 12:36 PM

Geez...who could go for squapping a wink or two right now? Hmm?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 03:41 PM

What? No challengers?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 06:18 PM

No, I've just potted out. You lost.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 09:53 PM

Our winks were used banjo picks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Nov 11 - 10:08 PM

You were wealthy indeed. We used the pieces of teeth left on the floor after the usual fights.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 10:31 AM

All of our teeth rotted out, we could only afford one tooth brush for the entire family.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 11:24 AM

You were lucky... OUR toothbrush also had to do double-duty to scrub the chamber pot--- and the chamber pot was only a rusty hubcap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 01:00 PM

We could not afford a chamber pot. We free ranged.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 01:04 PM

Flood in the Lavatory.   by I P Squint


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: gnu
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 05:33 PM

Snow and pine needle soup with spruce gum for spice?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 05:44 PM

Many's the time all we had to eat was snow, and yellow snow at that. It wasn't very filling but it tasted terrible. I guess we were lucky to have it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 07:09 PM

We lived in a desert and ate yellow sand, and were happy to have it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 08:13 PM

We used to warm up eating the yellow snow when it was nice and fresh. People who lived in a desert were lucky because they could take turns standing in each others shade -- WE had cold and there was no hiding from it. I remember one time it warmed up to five kilometers below zero! We would have gone swimming if all the water wasn't frozen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 08:54 PM

The yellow sand was mostly sourced from camels, who do not relieve themselves frequently. We would track the humpy beasts accross the desert for months in the hot sun, without another morsel to eat. We shared the few yellow grains from the drifting sand storms, sifting the few atoms of water out of the yellow sand from the camel crap with our toothless mouths. The crap would be saved, to form into tiddly wink shaped pellets, that we used to suck on in the driest periods.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 11:12 PM

We WERE fortunate to have the occasional fire to warm us, but the flames always froze solid instantly. We used to use them for sword fighting over squidge-offs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 04:32 AM

Was Princess Diana a secret tiddly winker? Squidgygate


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 07:31 AM

We had water-tight compartments installed in our undies to collect water.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 07:48 AM

UNDIES?? Yu had undies. You were lucky, I said YOU WERE LUCKY!


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:06 AM

We often made our own yellow snow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:42 AM

Lucky, you think? The undies, as we liked to call 'em were made of splintery plywood, with the many nails pointing in. But, we did not complain, because we would be "punched in da head" if we did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 12:59 PM

Prickly undies huh. Do you think it might catch on?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 05:42 PM

""Prickly undies huh. Do you think it might catch on?""

I recall them catching on a few parts of me manhood and I have the scars to rember the occasion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 11:44 PM

I'd tell you guys how tough MY childhood was, but I wouldn't want to completely destroy your fragile ego structures and leave you lying on the ground in shock, helplessly vulnerable to savage attacks by carrion-eating chihauhaus.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 09:29 AM

Plywood? Ptooi! WHEN we had underwear (which wasn't often) it was made from discarded cactus plants and poison ivy leaves. My baby sister had nettles in her diaper (when she had one) to absorb the "bodily fluids." My first set of "real" underwear had been cut off a dead tramp ("Filthy Frank") and partially burned by the Health Department, but I was glad to get it so I could go to school (where I excelled in everything and, a poor but honest lad, reveled in learning and eventually -- and totally through my OWN efforts -- was eventually considered for Nobel Prizes in physics, peace, chemistry, economics, medicine and literature. When the call came I refused it because I couldn't spare the time from my research into vaccines for malaria, HIV, genetic surgery, ending poverty and unemployment, bringing the nations of the Middle East together, and writing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 05:11 PM

Which is better, a nod or a wink?


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 11:43 AM

The last GUEST was me. I had to pawn my cookie but I've got it back now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 11:52 AM

I'm relieved that it was you, Rap. I don't think the world could survive another one like you... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: Ed T
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 01:36 PM

We only got to wear nettle diapers on special occasions, like when the witch doctor came over to remove and examine at our entrails to predict the weather. He always put them back, but sometimes deposited them in the wrong place. My liver is still under my left knee, which does give me a noticible limp. As a side effect, it seems to have contributed to our birth control, as I limply go about my manly tasks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tiddlywinks: effete, jejeune, outre!
From: GUEST,Wilfred Penifere
Date: 24 Nov 11 - 12:23 PM

Tiddlywinks is a wonderful game, a game for real men. I was the reigning champion of my entire district for 5 years. There are few in England who can squap a wink better than I.


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