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GUEST,henryp 19 Aug 11 - 02:48 PM
GUEST,Patsy 19 Aug 11 - 07:21 AM
Tootler 18 Aug 11 - 02:33 PM
Tootler 18 Aug 11 - 02:32 PM
Steve Shaw 18 Aug 11 - 12:41 PM
Will Fly 18 Aug 11 - 04:36 AM
Steve Shaw 17 Aug 11 - 07:10 PM
JohnB 17 Aug 11 - 05:42 PM
The Sandman 18 Aug 11 - 03:58 PM
Will Fly 18 Aug 11 - 02:10 PM
melodeonboy 18 Aug 11 - 01:53 PM
Will Fly 18 Aug 11 - 01:51 PM
GUEST,Tim 18 Aug 11 - 01:00 PM
Tig 14 Aug 11 - 06:58 PM
GUEST,oracle 14 Aug 11 - 06:22 PM
GUEST,SteveGF 14 Aug 11 - 05:49 PM
Noreen 14 Aug 11 - 05:40 PM
Tootler 14 Aug 11 - 05:23 PM
nutty 14 Aug 11 - 05:09 PM
GUEST,henryp 14 Aug 11 - 06:02 AM
GUEST,henryp 10 Aug 11 - 06:12 PM
GUEST,tam 10 Aug 11 - 05:42 PM
GUEST,Jon 09 Aug 11 - 02:28 PM
GUEST,henryp 09 Aug 11 - 12:16 PM
GUEST 09 Aug 11 - 11:31 AM
Newport Boy 08 Aug 11 - 10:58 AM
GUEST,Alan 08 Aug 11 - 05:55 AM
Joe Nicholson 07 Aug 11 - 06:59 PM
GUEST,henryp 07 Aug 11 - 12:45 PM
GUEST,Azoic 07 Aug 11 - 09:57 AM
Valmai Goodyear 07 Aug 11 - 05:05 AM
GUEST,henryp 07 Aug 11 - 04:51 AM
Peter K (Fionn) 06 Aug 11 - 08:58 PM
GUEST,Guest, Paul 06 Aug 11 - 05:14 PM
GUEST,Joe 06 Aug 11 - 08:07 AM
George Papavgeris 05 Aug 11 - 10:38 PM
GUEST,henryp 05 Aug 11 - 08:37 PM
GUEST,Don 05 Aug 11 - 08:07 PM
GUEST,Azoic 04 Aug 11 - 12:09 PM
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GUEST,Tim 04 Aug 11 - 09:45 AM
GUEST,henryp 04 Aug 11 - 06:26 AM
GUEST,Julie 04 Aug 11 - 03:35 AM
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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 02:48 PM

See The Wilsons at the Albert Hall on Youtube;
href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00jv8fc">http://www.bbc.co.uk


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 19 Aug 11 - 07:21 AM

This was excellent I thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing and was rounded off well with the following program all about Clog dancing.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Tootler
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 02:33 PM

Sorry 'bout the empty post. Hit the wrong button!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Tootler
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 02:32 PM


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 12:41 PM

Yep, there you go.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Will Fly
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 04:36 AM

Sorry to hear it was less than satisfying for you, Steve - but beauty, of course, is in the ear of the beholder.

Interesting comment on June Tabor. I've never found her singing depressing. Intense, yes, and very moving. Still, different strokes, etc.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Aug 11 - 07:10 PM

Yikes. I was totally underwhelmed by the whole thing. June "I'm a folk singer and I'm here to depress you" Tabor indeed sang well, but what a grim start to what should have been an upbeat event. I can't think that Percy would have been very impressed. The whole place lit up with Kathryn Tickell's band every time they appeared (which wasn't often enough or long enough). The orchestral playing was routine (the conductor seemed at times to be doing little more than keeping the beat) and there are far better versions of Grainger's music on CD, and I shouldn't be saying that about a live performance. And we were regaled with Drunken bloody Sailor and Shallow bloody Brown. It was a concert for the folkie in-crowd only. Which will shrivel all the more if that's the best representation of ourselves we can come up with. Heavy, man. Jeez, we even had regulation finger in ear. Wot an advert!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: JohnB
Date: 17 Aug 11 - 05:42 PM

Absolutely BRILLIANT, just watched the I player link above.
Anyone who is rejected by BBC's Iplayer should try a programme called Expat Shield, that is how I just watched it in Canada.
JohnB.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 03:58 PM

I had the privilege of watching it with my good friends Steve and Chris Wilson, briLliant.June Tabor singing Green Bushes was excellent, she did it better than even I could have done


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Will Fly
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 02:10 PM

It's a superb band, isn't it? The only thing that grated - and it's just the teensiest, weensiest of grates - was the pickup on the guitar. It had that rather plasticky timbre that spoils the acoustic sound of the instrument. But that's a minor caveat - he's a great performer.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: melodeonboy
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 01:53 PM

I confess to not finding it easy to fully appreciate classical musicians performing folk music (no matter how well it's played!). That aside, what a great step forward to have such wonderful ambassadors of folk music - Tickell, Tabor and the Wilsons - taking part in the Proms. And such excellent performances!

It's a while since I've seen Tickell's band. Blimey, they're good!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Will Fly
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 01:51 PM

Excellent - just caught it on iPlayer!

Greg Stevens - more versions of Shallow Brown to add to your collection! :-)


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Tim
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 01:00 PM

Excellent!!!!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Tig
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 06:58 PM

A great prom. Even the Wilson's scrubbed up well and performed brilliantly - although I think I prefer them 'live' :-)

If there were more programmes like this I am certain I would go back to listening to the radio.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,oracle
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 06:22 PM

Didn't really believe the 5 star reviews (Guardian, FT, etc) but, having just watched it - yeh, that was just 'something else'. If the BEEB are listening, give us all more of this!
Kath Tickell's vision and her band's performance was fantastic. She obviously loves Grainger and her choice of NE collaberators couldn't have been better - June Tabor (an adopted northerner I believe) was superb, The Wilson Family, as has been said, surely deserve the Albert Hall stage to themselves one of these days, the Northern Sinfonia were terrific and the BBC Singers were a perfect compliment - all brought together by the 'easy', laid back conductor John Harle. This was a Proms to be savoured again, and again and, with a bit of luck again - next year.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,SteveGF
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 05:49 PM

F*****g Brilliant! Loved the whole thing, but the NE element was outstanding.

Oh and the clogging programme was very good as well.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Noreen
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 05:40 PM

BBC iPlayer BBC_Proms_2011_Kathryn_Tickell_and_Friends


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Tootler
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 05:23 PM

Excellent.

I enjoyed it more than when I listened on the radio.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: nutty
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 05:09 PM

Watching the performance on TV was even more enjoyable than listening to it.
Congratulations to all concerned. Please BBC can we have more?


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 06:02 AM

Reminder; BBC4 TV Prom 25 Grainger 7.00pm Sunday evening.

Then on BBC iplayer for seven days.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 06:12 PM

Correction! Radio Times gives the BBC4 TV broadcast as 7.00pm BST on Sunday 14 August. BST, British Summer Time, is one hour ahead of GMT, Greenwich Mean Time.

You can find very comprehensive programme notes via a link on the BBC Prom 25 site.

It's followed at 8.10pm by a repeat of Come Clog Dancing - Treasures of English Folk Dance.

BBC4 TV often has music on Friday nights. On Friday 19 August there is an evening devoted to Demis Roussos and Exotic Pop then at 11.20pm Nana Mouskouri at the BBC.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,tam
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 05:42 PM

Just missed it, but set the recorder for saturday.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 02:28 PM

Thanks!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 12:16 PM

It's still there! You've probably got until 10.15pm.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 11:31 AM

Missed the radio version, so we'll have to wait for sunday!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Newport Boy
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 10:58 AM

Guest azoic - Register & PM me and I may be able to help.

Phil


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Alan
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 05:55 AM

We saw the Wilsons at a Concert fundraiser for the RSPB Barnsley yesterday afternoon - 'Brilliant' can't wait to see thier proms performance on the tele sunday.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 06:59 PM

I listened to it this afternoon on the i-player thingy it was great. We shall be with the Wilsons this weekend at Saltburn. Can't wait.

Joe nicholson


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 12:45 PM

Azoic, I doubt that it will be released as a CD.

It's going to be broadcast on BBC4 TV at 7.30pm BST on Sunday 14 August, so you've got a little longer to make some arrangements to watch or record it. You could even arrange a trip here.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Azoic
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 09:57 AM

How likely is it that this BBC Prom show will ever be released on CD?


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 05:05 AM

I'm very excited about this, so apologies for a very early announcement. The Wilsons are doing an all-day workshop and evening performance at the Lewes Saturday Folk Club on Saturday 21st. July next year. The workshop will be on minining songs and the songs of Graeme Miles.

Valmai (Lewes)


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 04:51 AM

It must be very difficult for a controversial leader to make such a large investment in a small, backward and debt-ridden country. How do think David Cameron should begin?


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 08:58 PM

Was at last night's Royal Albert Hall prom (5 Aug): an electrifying performance of Mahler's 2nd Symphony (Resurrection) by the Simon Bolivar Symphony Orchestra - a product of Venezuela's extraordinary experiment in working for social change through music. The programme, El Sistema, has 250,000 students actively engaged in pre-school orchestras (4-6 age group), 90 children's orchestras (7-16), 135 symphony orchestras (16-20) and 30 professional adult orchestras. Threequarters of those involved are living below the poverty line.

Under their conductor Gustavo Dudamel the Simon Bolivar SO, which was originally a youth orchestra, has become truly worldclass, as might be confirmed by anyone who saw tonight's broadcast (6 Aug) on BBC2 of last night's performance. Dudamel, who is also musical director of the LA Phil, has extended the Venezuela scheme into the USA and is supporting its implementation in Sweden, Scotland and England.

El Sistema must go down as a major item on the plus side for Hugo Chavez's sometimes controversial stint in office.

Sorry for drifting a little from the subject, if not the title, of this thread.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Guest, Paul
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 05:14 PM

Only available till 1147 pm BST Tuesday, 90 minutes, really good as many already noted:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012wzss/BBC_Proms_2011_Prom_25_Grainger/


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Joe
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 08:07 AM

Well said George couldn't agree you more, the Wilsons were tremendous!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 10:38 PM

Wonderful concert. Not only were the individual participants excellent, it was brilliantly put together. Tabor's singing knee-tremling for me as always, Tickell's playing (and her band's) and arrangements superb, the BBC singers made a decent fist of Shallow Brown (of course they could never come close tothe pathos Tabor imparts, but I liked their bass soloist nevertheless) and the Sinfonia proved a lot more versatile than I would have given them credit for before I heard them. But the revelation for me were the Wilsons, I have never heard them sing better and more closely - perhaps the absence of banter helped? (just a tease, Mike!). But seriously, the Wilsons on the night could have substituted for the BBC singers on anything, I felt.

Can't wait for the 14th August


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 08:37 PM

Azoic - I can only suggest that you google 'BBC iplayer abroad' and try one of the offers there. Perhaps someone else will have some personal experience.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Don
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 08:07 PM

Just listened again on the bbc iplayer. What a great concert!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Azoic
Date: 04 Aug 11 - 12:09 PM

Apparently this show is "not available in your area".I am in Oregon.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 04 Aug 11 - 11:46 AM

My comments, on an earlier thread related to this one, still stand. Now that the Beeb et al have heard them, perhaps it isn't too fancifull to imagine The Wilson Family finishing off 'The Last Night' with Miners Lifeguard?


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 04 Aug 11 - 11:09 AM

We've had this conversation before. General opinion is that you will be able to listen to the BBC Radio 3 broadcast on the BBC iplayer - it's BBC Prom 25 Grainger. See if it works - you've still got six days left. If it does work, you should also be able to hear the Cambridge Folk Festival Highlights on BBC Radio 2. However, you will need a specific program to watch the TV broadcast of the Prom.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Azoic
Date: 04 Aug 11 - 10:50 AM

I am guessing that it will not be possible to hear this archived audio stream here in the US?


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: nutty
Date: 04 Aug 11 - 10:41 AM

Today's Guardian Review ......

Prom 25: Northern Sinfonia/Kathryn Tickell Band/BBC Singers – review
Royal Albert Hall, London

Guy Dammann    guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 3 August 2011 14.25 BST

It doesn't take long to fall in love with Percy Grainger. An hour should do it, especially when, as here, the 50th anniversary of the Australian composer and arranger was celebrated in a manner only the Proms could pull off. The excellent Northern Sinfonia, resident ensemble of the Sage Gateshead, occupied half the stage, leaving the rest to Northumbrian piper Kathryn Tickell, the evening's curator, her four-man ensemble, five a cappella brothers from Teeside called the Wilson Family, and the BBC Singers who, as Tickell explained, just happened to be in the area.
Then June Tabor took to the stage to sing Green Bushes unaccompanied.
The hall suddenly felt quite empty. As if sculpted from the earth, Tabor's voice resonates with ancient calm, both consoling and unmanning its listener. Like many great folk songs, Green Bushes expresses neither joy nor sadness, but something far more immanent. Tabor's voice is like that, too. It just is.
Green Bushes and Shallow Brown, which Tabor sung later to similarly devastating effect, is of course not by Grainger, but he collected both songs along with hundreds of others. The magic of this late-night Prom came from hearing the folk arrangements alongside more traditional settings. What emerged was the unrestrained daring of Grainger's ear, and the profound musical respect for the material, attending to the wandering ambiguities and stark realities of the originals. There is nothing patronising about his "use" of folk songs, because they are so clearly born of love.
Grainger fantasised about bringing together diverse forces for his Scotch Strathspey and Reel, including deep-sea sailors "miraculously endowed with the gift of polyphonic improvisation". The Wilson Family and their less hirsute partners in the BBC Singers possess this gift, and their combination with the orchestra for Grainger's exuberant concoction, conducted by the saxophonist John Harle, made for a wonderful finale.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 11 - 10:22 AM

Todays Gaurdian - Review Excellent! makes you feel good to be part of the Folk scene!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Tim
Date: 04 Aug 11 - 09:45 AM

My comment above "Absolutely Brilliant!" was not meant as a comment about June Tabor in isolation, but more the nights performances as a whole. I would absolutely agree with the comments of Julie and henryp, the Wilsons performance was fantastic and more deserving of more time. It would be well worth the journey north to the Sage to see again. Well done to all involved!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 04 Aug 11 - 06:26 AM

Excellent concert! Don't forget - you can watch this concert on BBC4 at 7.30pm on Sunday 14 August.

With so many performers from the north-east, perhaps this concert could be repeated at the Sage in Gateshead. The Wilsons deserved more time - they could stand in for the BBC Singers.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Julie
Date: 04 Aug 11 - 03:35 AM

The whole performance was fantastic, a great mix between the traditional styles of the Wilsons, June and Kathryn's band to that of the BBC singers and the Northern Synfonia. But the hightlight of the night for us was the finale, the Scotch Strathspey and Reel with singing from Wilsons and the BBC singers. The Wilsons gave an outstanding performance of the Bay of Mexico earlier in the night, and showed the BBC singers a thing or two in the Strathspey. In all a fantastic concert well done to everyone.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: Tootler
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 06:26 PM

I agree with the comments above.

I'm not a fan of June Tabor, but I too thought she sang extremely well. I thought Kathryn Tickell's arrangements were very good too. Compared well with Grainger's orchestral arrangements, some of which went on a bit, especially Green Bushes.

I was also pleased to hear that the audience sounded enthusiastic.


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Tim
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 05:05 PM

Absolutely Brilliant!


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Subject: RE: BBC Proms
From: GUEST,Shubalki
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 10:39 AM

beautiful preformance


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