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BS: Favorite 50s Cars Thread....

Bobert 02 Jul 11 - 11:05 PM
katlaughing 02 Jul 11 - 11:16 PM
Bobert 02 Jul 11 - 11:25 PM
katlaughing 02 Jul 11 - 11:41 PM
catspaw49 02 Jul 11 - 11:48 PM
catspaw49 02 Jul 11 - 11:50 PM
Jack the Sailor 03 Jul 11 - 12:58 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 03 Jul 11 - 02:52 AM
ragdall 03 Jul 11 - 02:56 AM
Richard Bridge 03 Jul 11 - 03:47 AM
Bobert 03 Jul 11 - 08:21 AM
Abdul The Bul Bul 03 Jul 11 - 10:17 AM
bobad 03 Jul 11 - 10:27 AM
josepp 03 Jul 11 - 10:30 AM
John on the Sunset Coast 03 Jul 11 - 10:39 AM
number 6 03 Jul 11 - 10:53 AM
kendall 03 Jul 11 - 11:18 AM
Richard Bridge 03 Jul 11 - 02:13 PM
Phot 03 Jul 11 - 08:30 PM
bobad 03 Jul 11 - 08:33 PM
Jack the Sailor 03 Jul 11 - 08:53 PM
Richard Bridge 03 Jul 11 - 09:03 PM
Max Johnson 04 Jul 11 - 09:22 AM
Fortunato 04 Jul 11 - 09:47 AM
GUEST,OldNicKilby 04 Jul 11 - 10:20 AM
Fortunato 04 Jul 11 - 10:50 AM
Richard Bridge 04 Jul 11 - 11:37 AM
GUEST,OldNicKilby 04 Jul 11 - 11:45 AM
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Richard Bridge 04 Jul 11 - 12:58 PM
GUEST,number 6 04 Jul 11 - 01:09 PM
Bill D 04 Jul 11 - 01:13 PM
IvanB 04 Jul 11 - 02:27 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 04 Jul 11 - 03:52 PM
GUEST,OldNicKilby 05 Jul 11 - 09:32 AM
Richard Bridge 05 Jul 11 - 09:58 AM
Rusty Dobro 05 Jul 11 - 11:57 AM
Little Hawk 05 Jul 11 - 01:50 PM
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Bobert 06 Jul 11 - 09:30 AM
Richard Bridge 06 Jul 11 - 10:05 AM
catspaw49 06 Jul 11 - 11:16 AM
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Subject: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 11:05 PM

Lotta us come up in the same era and there's something (to me) about 50s USA cars that is cooler than cars since then...

For me its a toss up between:

'50 Ford Coupe or 53" Studebaker Coupe...

Yours???

B~


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From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 11:16 PM

I loved my parents' '53 Studebaker, but I was really too young to get into the 50s cars much. Now, if ya wanna talk 60s...first love is a 1963 Ford Galaxy convertible!

I did have an oil-guzzler of a 1953 Dodge with a beautiful chrome ram's head on the hood. Mom and dad bought it, for fifty bucks, for my brother and I to share when I was 16...it was the same age as I and it was like driving a tank. Took more oil than gas and was totally unreliable, but I did have a soft spot for it. Took the hood ornament when it died. Lost the hood ornament in one move too many and would love to have one, again, with or without the car attached, esp. as my sun sign is a ram.:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 11:25 PM

Hey, oil and gas was cheap back then, kat...

Yeah, '53 Dodge was a tank... Did it have that weird automatic transmission with a clutch, too??? If so, I drove one of them way back...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 11:41 PM

Yes! We bought the oil in five gallon drums!


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From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 11:48 PM

1957 was a beautiful year across the board. Generally two or three years of a car had some similarity but '57 was very much a "one-off" year from almost every manufacturer including Packard and Studebaker. There was a similar appearance to all the makes in the GM lines and sure enough that carried over into the "one-off" looks in '57.

Although the '57 Chevy is best remembered and known, Pontiac, Olds, and Buick had a great look....even Caddy!   The Studebaker Golden Hawk in that time was a classic and let's not forget the '57 Corvette FI "Fuelie".

The early 50's was filled with rather monstrous and clunky looking cars. The styling studios took over by '57 but went over the edge by 1959.


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From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 11:50 PM

Let me finish that post......

Remember cars in the late 50's and those freakin' fins? Pretty soon the stylists got so involved with bigger and swoopier that they forgot what the thing actually was.....a car. More chrome, higher fins, bullet shaped doo-dads everywhere front and rear................I agree with someone who was thinking about the '59 Cadillac.

Can you imagine all the corporate big guys, the engineers, the marketing reseach folks, the stylists and designers, the guys on the line.......EVERYBODY at Cadillac is standing out front as the first '59 model rolls off the line. Sky high fins, bullet taillights, bullets in the grille and trunk fascia, chrome everywhere....a monument to American excess. It stops in the middle of the group and there is nothing but complete silence. Then, from the midst of the crowd comes a small voice..........My gawd, what have we done?


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 12:58 AM

Never drove one, but this would be it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 02:52 AM

'59 Ford Galaxy convertible - red and white two-tone with black convertible top


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: ragdall
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 02:56 AM

'53-'55 Corvette C1, two door convertible, powder blue with the white side panels.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 03:47 AM

Rover 105S was nice. And there's STILL something about a Morris Minor if you have the patience: by today's standards speed was not a virtue.

Jaguars - the 3.4 and 3.8 saloons and the Marks 7, 8, and 9 - and the XK series

Riley Pathfinder and Wolseley 6/80 and 6/90

TR series Triumphs and all big Healeys (there were various other versions eg with Alvis engines until the tie-up with Austin produced teh Austin-Healeys). Come to that, anything by Alvis.

Anything by Allard (the best being the J2X) or Bristol

Anything by Tornado Cars

Anything by Facel Vega (apart from their brakes)

Mercedes 300SL

Anything by Rolls-Royce or Bentley.

Oooh, lots of toys. I feel better now!


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 08:21 AM

Yeah, Spawz... I recall the Mad magazine cartoons of the times and the artists always took the fins, which BTW I never liked, and exaggerated them even more...

I reckon we could have a discussion on which cars had the most hideous fins... My choice would be between the 57 Desoto and the 57 Chrysler Imperial tho the 59 Caddie would also break into the top 3...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 10:17 AM

Around 1970 my boss had a gullwing Merc and I had a Wolseley 4/44. MMmm red leather and Walnut.
Al


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: bobad
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 10:27 AM

Had to Google "gullwing merc", here in North America merc refers to Mercury, a Ford marque.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: josepp
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 10:30 AM

Not too keen on the 50s. 40s cars are the coolest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 10:39 AM

Not that I ever drove or owned any of these--

'57 Lincoln Continental Mark II
'58 Corvette
'50 Plymouth - This one I did own-It was the first car that was mine and only mine - other than that it was pretty mundane.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: number 6
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 10:53 AM

1959 volvo PV544

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: kendall
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 11:18 AM

1958 Chevy Bel Air was the first new car I ever owned. Go like a scalded hog but rusted out too soon.
Liked my '47 DeSoto better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 02:13 PM

Yep, I should have mentioned teh PV544.

And HOW could I forget the Citroen big 6 and DS?

And the Lancia Flaminia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Phot
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 08:30 PM

The coolest era of cars ever..........

Ok, so the 67 vette, in white at the Alton show was pretty cool(Fully dressed engine, Eldelbrok inlets, headers, Holley 4 barrel, Mallorey dizzy). Ok, is ten years out of the period, but Fiona loved the Austin Healy 3000 Mk3, in black.........I fear classic black convertables could be an addiction.

Series 1 Landy, 1.6, the best ever!

Wassail! Chris


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From: bobad
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 08:33 PM

1950s MG TD


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 08:53 PM

The Astin Martin DB4 was made in the 1950s


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 09:03 PM

I was lucky enough to do a classic driving day at a race track not long ago and a DB4 Vantage was one of the cars I drove. It was a wallowing elephant with a crap turn-in. Ponderous and not very quick. 3.4 Jag (the original "bankrobber special") and E type and (lucky me) D type all much better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Max Johnson
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 09:22 AM

After the tired old Jags, Triumphs, MGs, Austin Healy's etc...

The Austin A90 Atlantic sports coupe. First produced in 1949, but not on sale until 1950.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Fortunato
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 09:47 AM

I like the 1956 Ford Crown Victoria in baby blue, for cruising around the drive-in.

Or the 1958 Eldorado Convertible in red with white interior.

But, frankly, my Electric Blue C-5 Corvette is my favorite.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: GUEST,OldNicKilby
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 10:20 AM

I am enjoying driving a 1950 Daimler Consort at the moment that I have had for over 22 years. Not fast but it really does feel good with the smell of Leather and the Walnut Dash and the Pre-selector Clutch. It is lovely having to think about the way I drive and anticipate what is coming up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Fortunato
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 10:50 AM

Guest, OldNicKilby,

what is a pre-selector clutch?


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 11:37 AM

I used to drive a single decker coach at university that had a pre-selector box. Yep, anticipation was the name of the game.

For an MG, I'd have wanted the A twin-cam.

I definitely would NOT have wanted an A90 - but the Daimler Dart was launched in 1959 and they were LOVELY. As was the Majestic Major.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: GUEST,OldNicKilby
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 11:45 AM

Quite simple really, you decide what the next gear you will want to be in , select it and then when you are ready to change gear you depress the clutch pedal. I have my doubts as to whether Richard, like me ,could actually get into a Daimler Dart. However the Daimler Barker Sports is another matter


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Max Johnson
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 12:36 PM

I wouldn't much want to drive an A90 for long, no. But they look great.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 12:58 PM

Getting OUT of a Dart was easy: drive over bump fast (which opened both doors) then turn corner and fall out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 01:09 PM

"Pre-selector Clutch"

Geeeeesh.

now that sounds like quite a contraption.

Is it for those who don't want to drive a manual shift or an automatic?

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 01:13 PM

My choice for several years...because I could afford it... was '56 VW bus....but it had a '59 engine! It also had a 'spare' gas tank- right under the driver's seat... 2 gallons you could access by flipping a lever...or by turning the bus over.


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From: IvanB
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 02:27 PM

Our family had a '50 chevy 4-door that had 200,000 miles on it by 1955, when my stepdad rebuilt the engine. He also decided to have it repainted by a friend of his who would do it at his home for a fraction of the cost a body shop or professional paint shop would have charged.

I don't remember what the bottom color was called, it was sort of an orange-brown. The top, I remember well: the color he chose was "Siesta Creme," almost an ivory. Well, the friend dawdled and dawdled. Every week my stepdad went to see him and a few pieces of masking tape had been added or a panel sanded or the like. Finally about three months later, home came the car, with a top of "FIESTA creme" (a light but still bright yellow).

Shortly after, my parents bought our third car, so the chevy became mine to use. My friends loved the fact that I now had wheels to cart them around, but that didn't stop them from naming it "Ivan's Shitbrindle Chevy."

Nothing like a muscle car or even particularly attractive (especially after the paint job), but I loved having transportation and I have my stepdad to thank for the fact that it got another 120,000 miles on it before it died. Ironically, I drove it to the car dealer to trade in on something else and left it running because getting it started again was iffy by then. They quoted me a trade-in which I figured was quite a bit higher than it was worth and I found something I liked. We signed the papers and I paid the difference. When we went out to pull the old chevy into the lot, the engine had died and nothing they could do would get it started again. Dunno if it ever ran again, probably they junked it.


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From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 03:52 PM

Lincoln Continental Mark II- I think that was the one with vertical teeth on the front bumper. Went fishing with a friend who had one, and the bumper got stuck on a rock in the road (or path, he drove it into situations that the car was not built to handle). Still, it was a beautiful road car.

I had a Caddie I loved- an early 50s, forget the exact year. I was in a new city in my first job, and found a car lot not far from our rented house. I said I needed a car, and the owner said he had just got the Caddie, and it drove perfectly, but it hadn't been to a mechanic for the usual checkup. He offered it to me for $500, and I took it. I guess I was lucky- I drove it for about five years without any problems, until I could afford a new car. And then I bought a year-old Caddie that also was excellent.

The worst car I had was the Olds 442, which I got from a GM mechanic- OK on paved roads, and 0-60 mph in 5 seconds, but the suspension was deadly and it skated on dirt and gravel roads that were always corderoyed in Alberta. Very prone to rust as well. I was glad to get rid of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: GUEST,OldNicKilby
Date: 05 Jul 11 - 09:32 AM

Hello No 6 It is a quite amazing bit of engineering. It is possible to leave the gearbox in 3 rd or Top and drive away from the kerb without any judder or Kangaroo juice whatsoever. This is what it is rumoured thst the 'Oldies did. In fact I met an Old Duck in Oxford who told me that "Yer never need ter change gear"
P S I have worked out what I am doing wrong to get the phantom posts


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Jul 11 - 09:58 AM

Come to think of it, I quite liked the 4 litre Humber Super Snipe


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From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 05 Jul 11 - 11:57 AM

That last GUEST was me. My cookie is obviously as reliable as an Austin A35.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 11 - 01:50 PM

The humble VW beetle is my favorite 50s car. I also remember the Morris Minor with fondness.


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From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 09:07 AM

I liked the Morris Minor too, the one I had was a bit of an old banger and had Mickey Mouse on the side. It was a lovely car with manual indicators really cute, it was always hit and miss not knowing if it would last the whole journey so eventually it had to go. Fun though.


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From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 09:30 AM

Semiphores = manual indicators...

Morris Minors were cute but they also had the dreaded Lucas Electrics spaghetti (wiring) which meant nothing electrical ever worked correctly at any given time... lol...

BV~


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 10:05 AM

I don't know what you did to Morris Minors in the USA Bobert, but over here in the UK they were immensely reliable, once alternators had replaced dynamos and associated voltage control gubbins, and indeed once modern indicators had replaced trafficators (or semaphore indicators). I had several, most of which went a bit faster than Mr Issigonis intended, and some of which had commensurate brakes and/or supsension, and only ever had two intractable electrical problems. One turned out to be a high resistance in the distributor earth so the contact breaker spring got hot and melted the contact breaker heel so that contact breaker gap gradually vanished. Melted plastic was a sure-fire indicator that some thing was getting too hot, but it took me some time to figure out what and why! The other was when a slightly loose coil clamp allowed vibration, which wore through the aluminium casing of the coil, so the oil (which conducted heat away from the windings) leaked out, so the windings heated up in use until the internal resistance defeated the spark. Let it cool down and it would go again. I HATE intermittent faults, they always hide when you are looking for them.


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From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 11:16 AM

Geeziz, what a load of shit! Maybe y'all just sent the fucked up crap to us but we all damn well knew that Joe Lucas said not to go out after dark! Finding mysterious reasons why Joe put the shits to Brit car owners was a pretty good income for our shop but a real pain in the ass for the poor sap who had one.........including myself!



Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: GUEST,Jon Dudley
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 12:16 PM

Borgward Isabella, VW Beetle, Volvo Amazon (just gets in I think), Jowett Javelin, Citroen DS and 'Traction', Citroen 2CV, Daimler Dart, Daimler Majestic Major, Chevrolet BelAir, Hudson Hornet, Bristol 400, Mini (just), Alvis, Frazer-Nash TT Replica, Bentley Continental, Bugatti 101, Ferrari 250GT etc, etc,


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: bobad
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 12:21 PM

Volvo Amazon was known as a 122S in North America. I owned two of them, a 1964 and a 1965. They were my favorite car of all that I have owned.


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From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 12:54 PM

The Borgward was another fine piece of absolute revenge that ya'll put on us here in the US... Not only was it junk but it was so ugly that it'd make a freight train jump tracks and take a dirt road... That's ugly... Citroens??? No prettier...


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From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 01:23 PM

For whatever the Brits sent over Bobertz, the French were the ones that presented the absolute epitome of CRAP to our shores. Peugeot was at least sometimes driveable but Citroens just blew whales across the board. Citroen screams, "I'm just SOOOOOOOO fuckin' FRENCH!!!" to which most of us replied, "Yes and you're a COMPLETE piece of fuckin' SHIT!!!" When they bought Maserati and shipped us the SM it was the greatest example of failure to polish a turd the world has ever known.

Renault? Please........While the original R5's gave us at least some soupcon of delight, the second version arrived being too damn French in many ways and that stupid name, LeCar, was better translated LePoop. Most Renault models were very predictable and reliable however..........at 50,000 miles they fell apart.

Then there's Simca. Imagine if you will, the most vile, stinking, corn infused, pile of turds you could ever be exposed to. Better to spend your life in a small box with 20 pounds of that shit than to own and drive a Simca.   Even Yugo is better!!!!!


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 05:01 PM

Borgward Isabella, particularly the coupe, were rather tasty and did well on the track.

The rear engined Renaults and Simcas came in some very brisk versions - the R8 Gordini and Abarth, and the Simca 2000 Abarth (a 2 litre lump hanging off the back of a rear engined family car!!) but in a cross wind trying for the top speed was a bad case of "nearer my God to thee". Some had overheating problems to the extent of being "designed" to have the bonnet (at the back, being rear engined) to stay 4 inches open. The NSU TTS and TYP1200 also rear engined, produced over 100 bhp (naturally aspirated) out of 996 and 1200 cc respectively, but the TTS was a grandstanding road car as it would not come off the line without over 3000 rpm on the clock before you tried to engage the clutch. I'd have guessed them as 60s however.


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From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 05:37 PM

Gotta agree with Spawzer on them French Pig-rots... Butt ugly and useless...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: bobad
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 05:43 PM

As the Car Talk boys say when it comes to French cars; "The French copy no one and no one copies the French."


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Subject: RE: BS: Favoite 50s Cars Thread....
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 06:54 PM

Not sure why you're down on the 203 or 403 Peugeots. Both had excellent reliability records in Europe - including the slightly odd worm drive back axles.


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