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Subject: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:07 PM

Got an email from the Airmiles. If I sign up for the quittin smoking in New Brunswick campaign I get 150 Airmiles. 140 gets a $20 grocery coupon at Sobeys. So, after 40 years a smokin (it's actually 54 years + on accounta I started with second hand smoke when I was 5 days old), I guess I have no choice but to quit.

Gonna be rough but I want that $20 + ten airmiles. I spend more than that in one day on smokes but THIS is free money eh... can't pass up free money eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: maeve
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:15 PM

TL and I wish you every success, gnu.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: number 6
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:29 PM

Good luck gnu ... and I hope you succeed.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: frogprince
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:31 PM

Yah, right, ya lilly livered junkie; now way you'll have the guts to quit. Them little cancer sticks have got more will power than you'll ever have!




(Hope that makes him pissed off enough to prove he can really do it.)


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ed T
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:31 PM

Why buy groceries? 150 Air miles may get you an all inclusive flight from the Moncton airport to the Scoudouc Airfield, (aka Scoudouc Raceway, or Dragway)for a nostalgic wheel smok'in.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:35 PM

Go for it Gnu. It's not what they give you. Just think you will have that saving evryday everyday.

Just think, 31 days of not smoking will give you an extra $620.

12 months will give you $7440.

Make you think eh!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:39 PM

Back in 1994, a beautiful woman told me that quitting smoking would improve my love life, so I quit after almost 30 years of cigarettes. It didn't improve my chances with her, but it DID improve my love life quite soon after that.

Sex is one of the better motivators....

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:47 PM

Too much information Joe :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: frogprince
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:53 PM

I used to smoke after making love, but then I learned to do it a little slower.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 26 May 11 - 05:55 PM

"but it DID improve my love life quite soon after that.
"

Obviously, better than Viagra then!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 May 11 - 06:00 PM

I stopped, hoping to be fitter. Somebody swapped the i for an a though!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 May 11 - 06:10 PM

Well, I should hope! The local fire dept. is properly tired of coming over to put you out...extinguish you...er...cut off the oxygen supply and cool you down until combustion stops.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: J-boy
Date: 26 May 11 - 06:55 PM

Good luck gnu. Have you thought of tryng an e-cigarette? That's how my brother quit. Gonna try one myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ed T
Date: 26 May 11 - 06:57 PM

""Oxygen is Not Flammable

Unlike some other gases and chemicals, oxygen is not flammable. It is classified as an accelerator, meaning that if there is a fire and oxygen is present, the fire will burn. The more oxygen, the larger the fire and the faster it will spread. We are used to seeing fires burn in an atmosphere containing about 21 percent oxygen. This is the atmosphere in which most materials are tested for safety, such as the covering of the chair in the above story. But when oxygen is flowing near such material, the material absorbs the oxygen and becomes more susceptible to burning. The clothing and hair of a person on oxygen contains a higher concentration of oxygen than that of a person not on oxygen.

Knowing this, one should use the "five foot rule" and stay at least this distance away from sources of sparks and flames, including lit "smokes". So, keep your concentrator, and store both liquid and compressed oxygen containers, at least five feet from any source of flames or spark.""

"" Smoker denied O2 benefits

Nova Scota 2004. Nova Scotia's Health Department said it would no longer provide an asthma sufferer funds to rent a concentrator and equipment for back up oxygen. The reason: A homecare worker caught him smoking, which is against the rules.

After being caught smoking, Vernon Hughes, 59, a former three-pack a day smoker who can't afford to pay for his own equipment, promised the Nova Scotia's Health Department that he wouldn't smoke anymore. The department didn't budge, saying there is no guarantee he'll live up to that promise. The no smoking rule is in place as a safety measure and explained fully to beneficiaries.""


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 May 11 - 07:50 PM

No, not really. Of course, I quit smoking during a siege of pneumonia. My wife suggested it.

"How are you feeling?"
"Can't wait to get over this and smoke my pipe again!"
"Well, it'll be a long wait 'cause you ain't gonna smoke anymore." "WHAT?!?!"
"And neither am I. We're quitting, right now!"
"Ah, okay..."


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Charley Noble
Date: 26 May 11 - 08:47 PM

gnu-

Yes, it would be nice to have you around for a few more years. But it will be devastating for the international tobacco cartel. Have you considered their interest in your decision?

Charley Noble, who just never became addicted (Hey, I tried!)


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 May 11 - 10:55 PM

Take up snoose...dribble on your shirt.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 May 11 - 11:30 PM

I agree with the advice Joe Offer was given. A relationship/sex with a smoker is just unthinkable. Keeping it out of the house (relationship) and oozing the toxins from smoking in a clinch (sex) are just SOOOO unappealing.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 May 11 - 11:36 PM

I think it quite brave of Joe to have shared that and it should give others hope/motivation.:-) Thanks, Joe!

Good luck, gnu. My Rog quit by using Chantix for about 6 weeks. Stress at work almost caused a relapse.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 May 11 - 12:12 AM

gnu, go read some of the previous about quitting; strangely enough they are not only cheering but cheerful.

The one phrase that worked for me: The fact that it will be difficult to quit is not the point; the point is that I don't want to be a smoker any more.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 27 May 11 - 07:37 AM

fingers crossed for you, gnu - perhaps if you cross your fingers, too, you won't be able to hold a cigarette!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 May 11 - 07:41 AM

But Joe, he's given up sex too.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 27 May 11 - 08:18 AM

Gee... thanks for the encouragement! I suppose it could actually happen.

Hehehe... one of the questions in the telecon for signing up and getting my "starter kit" was regarding what my worst triggers were in past attempts to quit. I said the worst was when people would ask me about how I was doing. Shortly thereafter, the lady said she would be phoning me in about two weeks to see how I am doing.

She also wanted me to see my doc to discuss quitting. I dunno what province she is in but you ain't gonna get an appointment in two weeks for that around here.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 May 11 - 08:32 AM

So? Make the appointment, for whenever.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 May 11 - 09:01 AM

gnu,
You can't be thin and smoke free and still be a folkie. There arer ules you know.
heh heh
Congratulations and spend that $20 wisely.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 27 May 11 - 09:35 AM

Lord, I love fags! I quit in 2000; rollies, which seriously messed up my metabolism; my weight shot up, and my asthma went haywire, but heaven knows how it would have been if I hadn't. Back then, even buying Drum off the boat, I was spending about £7.50 a week on fags, so that's nigh on seven and a half grand spent on better things... Hmmm, wish I'd been sensible & saved it up now.

Still love fags though; I love the whole smoking culture. These days pubs smell of BO, stale beer and air freshener. And it breaks my heart to see old soldiers forced to smoke in the bitter cold outside the ex-servicemen's club.



1.       To-bacco's but an Indian weed,
       Grows green at morn, cut down at eve
       It shows our de-cay,
       We are but clay;
       Think of this when you smoke to-bacco!

2.       The pipe that is so lily white,
       Wherein so many take delight,
       It's broken with a touch,
       Man's life is such
       Think of this when you take tobacco!

3.       The pipe that is so foul within,
       It shows man's soul is stained with sin
       It doth require
       To be purred with fire;
       Think of this when you smoke tobacco!

4.       The dust that from the pipe doth fall,
       It shows we are nothing but dust at all
       For we came from the dust,
       And return we must;
       Think of this when you smoke tobacco!

5.       The ashes that are left behind,
       Do serve to put us all in mind
       That unto dust
       Return we must;
       Think of this when you take tobacco!

6.       The smoke that does so high ascend,
       Shows that man's life must have an end
       The vapor's gone,
       Man's life is done;
       Think of this when you take tobacco!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 May 11 - 09:44 AM

Look, dude. You can do it. It's no worse than getting a vasectomy with a sledge hammer -- pain will gradually subside. But you CAN do it. In fact, you WILL do it or I visit Moncton.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: topical tom
Date: 27 May 11 - 10:25 AM

Good luck, Gnu! I was fortunate enough to be able to quit cold turkey in 1970 and have never regretted it since. I was smoking up to two packs a day when I quit so there is hope.You can and will do it, I'm sure!"...Puff, puff, puff until you smoke yourself to death..." NOT!!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: alanabit
Date: 27 May 11 - 11:05 AM

I am told that the physical dependence wears off quickly when the nicotene has left the body. That happens within forty-eight hours to a week. So I have often pondered on why people relapse into the habit again. One reason is obviously social pressure. Other people worry about putting on a lot of weight. I think though that for many it is a mask for a nervous habit. So I have wondered whether finding another simple, but harmless toy to fidget with could be a help to some people giving up? This is mere speculation on my part, but I would say that most people I know have a visible nervous habit - and those who don't usually smoke. Can anyone take that line of thought anywhere?
Good luck Gnu!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Amos
Date: 27 May 11 - 11:18 AM

It is possible but it ain't easy; your whole metabolism has a spanner thrown into the works after years in a groove. To answer the issue about why persistence, there are two different kinds of triggers involved--the behavioral triggers and the chemical ones. Men seem to find the chemical triggers the biggest hurdle; women, the behvioral ones, especially social behaviors (phone calls, dinner parties, etc.)

So give 'em hell, man. Always recall that "urges pass". I found Commit tablets helped a lot. Or try an e-cig if you must put something in your mouth and suck on it.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 May 11 - 11:25 AM

After awhile when I quit, I carried a 'worry stone'. It was a wooden knot I had picked up in the woods weeks before. Small enough that it fit into the palm of my hand and with a slightly raised ridged swirl, it was tactile and organic. Later someone gave me an amethyst etched with a dragonfly form.

I gather that you posted with tongue slightly in cheek, gnu. But try it- you might be surprised.

In Juneau, Alaska, a pack of ciggies these days is around $8.00. Were I still a smoker I would be in a constant state of fury.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 27 May 11 - 11:43 AM

Gnu, you need to consult a lawyer on this deal. Evidently you are not aware of the legal principle of "Habet panis et edet". That's "panis" with an A, repeat, A. In other words,"have the loaf and eat" or, as we say in English, "you can have your cake and eat it too"--you get the Airmiles for SIGNING UP, not for actually quitting. So sign up! Repeatedly! Keep signing up until you have enough Airmiles for a flight to Havana, where ripe cigars can be plucked at will from the heavily laden boughs of the panatella trees.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 May 11 - 02:31 PM

Or to any cancer hospital/long term care facility and see the people with the oxygen tanks, or the people coughing their lungs up, or the people who have had to have their cancerous jaws removed, or who have to use "burp speech" through the hole in their throat, or....

You've done harder things, you can do this. Why, just admitting you play the b*****n takes far more courage than simply quitting tobacco!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 27 May 11 - 02:54 PM

Well, I was just after the Airmiles but maybe... maybe... we'll see. I am seriously considering starting to stop next week.

Kinda sets be back... the posts of encouragement. Thanks again.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 May 11 - 03:04 PM

What I did, gnu, is on Wednesday teling everybody that I was going to quit on Sunday. That week I let myself smoke as much as I liked, even though I had to buy several more packs to get me through.

Sunday night I washed all the ash trays and put them in the cupboard, threw my half-smoked pack in the fire and went to bed.

Didn't feel good about anything for about three days and after that I started admiring myself for having quit.

That's been a bit more than 33 years ago. I still like the smell of cigarette smoke outdoors, but not too close up. Indoors I can't stand it at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 27 May 11 - 03:13 PM

What I did 35 years ago Gnu, when normally smoking 50 a day, was, go to a party and refused to smoke all night. When I woke up with a hangover, my first thought was a fag. I almost gave in, but managed to make myself realise that I had gone all night without one. So I didn't. A few months later I had a fag. However, instead of saying I failed and going back on them, I said ugh, that was crap and I don't want another. so i stopped again and never smoked again.

It's called self will and if you have it, you will succeed. If not carry on smoking because you will not do it.

You have to want to stop smoking, not wish you could stop.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 27 May 11 - 03:47 PM

Great stories and encouragement. Sorry to keep saying that, but I DO appreciate it... the advice is certainly going to be helpful.

So... let's just see how I do if I do do what I need to do. I may not post to this thread again for a while... for a reason I gave above. Although, if I get REAL squirrely, I might post and it might be inane. Of course, I suppose youse might not be able to see any difference.

Thanks all.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 27 May 11 - 07:44 PM

I can't speak for such an act (never saw the appeal in smoking), but I wish you well fine sir.

A bit of negative re-enforcement should help right? I tend to force myself into press ups. Geeks don't like press ups. At all.

Either that or female contact. WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: JennieG
Date: 27 May 11 - 08:52 PM

Gnu, just think of the loonies you will save by not buying the demon weed.......why, before you know it you would have enough saved for a trip to Oz!

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: maeve
Date: 27 May 11 - 09:07 PM

A trip to Oz, visits to Maine, canal boat cruises...

Maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 27 May 11 - 09:16 PM

Dunno if I wanna go to Oz. Just got an e with a bunch of pics of some lads what got a BIG croc, cut it it up and found someone inside. The warning said the pics were graphic but I didn't know what I was gonna see... if I had any inkling I wouldn't have opened it. And ye got them funny spiders... and them deadly snakes... and no Steve Irwin to save me anymore.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Donuel
Date: 27 May 11 - 09:51 PM

Look at it this way...
Cigarettes are supposed to kill you.

You are alive.

Therefore

THEY DID NOT WORK!


Why buy stuff that does not work?


Quitting should center on not buying them. Not smoking takes care of itself.

I ran a quit smoking clinic for 15 years and contributed to the American lung cancer assoc. quit smoking program named /Let Go of smoking


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 May 11 - 11:11 PM

If not Oz, perhaps you could save enough to get to Getaway this year. And next, and next....


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: J-boy
Date: 28 May 11 - 01:09 AM

Yes! If you and I withhold enough money from the motherfucking tobacco cartels we can afford to attend a Pats game at Gillette. There will be an NFL season. There must be.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: JennieG
Date: 28 May 11 - 02:08 AM

Gnu, I hate to disillusion you...but the average Ozzie never sees a croc unless they go to a reptile park, and snakes are more scared of us than we are of them. As for the spiders - well yes, some of them can kill you with one glance, but with a few simple precautions (like, don't leave your boots outside overnight) you will be fine. At least we don't have bears....now they will eat you!

Just keep saving those loonies and toonies......don't give them to the baccy companies, put them in your own pocket.

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 May 11 - 03:38 AM

Recently reported Dutch research has found that the elimination of smoking in public places has eliminated the pervasive smell of smoke, along with a coincident reduction in the "active participation" of patrons in public places (with pubs and bars specifically mentioned).

The conclusion reported was that the smoke masked other odors that now are apparent in the environs, and some of those others are sufficiently unpleasant to have an inhibiting effect on the pleasures of the people.

In particular, the report mentioned that many have now "suddenly" discovered that -

        PEOPLE STINK!

(Also mentioned was the odor of stale beer/ale.)

Research is in process on "replacement odors" for use in appropriately and more pleasurably masking the newly observed annoyances.

Further reports to be expected.

Individual research is encouraged.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 May 11 - 11:43 AM

Well, first we have to verify the Dutch findings in other countries. I'd like a grant, just a few million US dollars, to do that. I'll visit all sorts of places and conduct research by asking random people to first sniff various fragrances ranging from roses to skatoles, rate them on a scale of one to ten, and then take them into a non-smoking pub and rate the odors in there on the same scale. This will, of course, staying the pubs throughout their business hours and on random occasions. This will be checked by direct and indirect instrument olfactometry and the mean, median, and high/low ranges will be presented.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 May 11 - 11:57 AM

I can vouch for the fact that people stink. When I quit smoking my olfactory faculties roared back to an almost unbearable level. Eventually it went back to a normal level- or I got used to it - but for awhile I had to stay upwind and away from a great many people.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 28 May 11 - 12:49 PM

So, you moved waaaayUP to Alaska to get as far away from Spaw as possible?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 May 11 - 01:21 PM

A report of the Dutch research is at The Body Odd.

A possible "defect" in the research reported is that the principal method involved interviewing club patrons who were mostly "twenty-something" young adults. Due to the "raging hormones" factor, the test population quite possibly is more prone to excretion of a variety of "bad smells," what with all that pheromone broadcasting, and a tendency toward "athletic exhibitions" in lieu of dancing.

(An adjunct study is perhaps needed for my generation, to determine whether an effective noise ordinance would have a similar negative effect by making normal "body sounds" less easily masked.)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 28 May 11 - 01:54 PM

I smoked for 47 years. Four years after I quit I developed cancer.
You can tell yourself "I have to quit" all you want, but it will never happen until you say "I want to quit".

Smoking cost me tens of thousands of dollars, my vocal cords and my lungs. Doctor says I have emphysema now.

I've examined many tombstones for their humorous epitaphs and I have never seen one that said, "I wish I hadn't quit smoking."
My one regret is that I ever started in the first place.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 May 11 - 03:15 PM

Dat's true woids from Da Maine Man!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 28 May 11 - 05:27 PM

Right... tomorrow. I bought the patch today even tho I am supposed to cut down and talk to a doc or pharmacist and go on the four week course first according to the lass I spoke on the phone with.

Kendall's post means a lot to me as we share a common, ahhh, thing. And, I got an e from a dear old friend a few hours ago who quit over 15 years ago... he has just started his second round of chemo for lung cancer. Never met a nicer guy in my life... always laughing, always just such a great guy. One of those guys ya just wanted ta be around on accounta ya knew he was gonna make ya laugh just because he was laughing.

Kendall... to hear about the emphysema is a blow to all who know you including me. I hope you weather this storm well my friend.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 May 11 - 07:05 PM

Good on ya, gnu!

It can be done. I started smoking when I was seventeen and smoked like a chimney for thirty years. I tried to quit several times and found that Day 3 was the hard one to get past. That was the day my mind generally disconnected, by body turned into a robot, I bought a pack of cigarettes, and lit up. Along about the third marvelous drag, I suddenly became furious at myself, muttered a lot, and then kept on smoking.

I tried all sorts of over-the-counter drugstore products, chewed great wads of chewing gum until I endangered my teeth, and all that, but to little effect.

I read a very good book on quitting smoking (can't remember the title—something brilliant like, "How to Quit Smoking," I think— and I don't have it anymore—gave it to someone in need) that suggested several methods, but one data point that stuck with me was the comment that in hospitals and clinics, when trying to get addicts off hard drugs such as heroin, blood tests showed that after three weeks—twenty-one days—all traces of the drug were out of the person's body and essentially the body was clean, so any return to taking the drug was a matter of choice!

So if you could hold out for twenty-one days, you're off the stuff.

And although nicotine is powerfully addictive, it is not as powerful as heroin.

With that twenty-one day goal to shoot at, I started my own program, NOT following the usual advice ("The ONLY way it can be done is cold turkey!").

I tapered off.

But I have to admit, I had a lot of help. My wife does not smoke (never had) and second hand smoke really bothers her, so I decided not to smoke in our apartment. If I really felt like I needed a smoke, I went out on the porch or the balcony. And where I was working at the time (phone company operator—"One ringy-dingy, two ringy-dingies"), you couldn't smoke at the switchboard, so I could smoke only on breaks.

So I didn't smoke much at home, I smoked only on breaks at work, and my first cigarette in the morning was as I was driving to work, and unless I went out on the porch or we were at a party somewhere, my last cigarette for the day was when I was driving home from work.

I was actually down from about thirty butts a day to about six or seven.

One Sunday evening, John Dwyer hosted a Song Circle at his waterfront home west of Marysville, WA. About a dozen people gathered that afternoon for some serious loafing and to scarf down vast quantities of John's delicious barbequed ribs. Several of us were sitting out on his deck, enjoying the view of Puget Sound, the ssunshine, and the light breeze. Coincidentally, that happened to be my birthday.

John didn't smoke, and the rule was "No Smoking" in the house. If you wanted to smoke, go out on the deck. So as we sat there, a couple of people were smoking. I pulled out my pack to light up and noticed that I had only three left. I made a mental note to buy another pack from the machine when I got to work Monday morning.

Then, I said, "Hey, wait a minute!" My birthday. As auspicious an occasion as any. Since I had been planning on quitting, and since I was down to a half-dozen butts a day, I figured, "Do it, dammit! Just DO it!!"

So—I sat there that afternoon on John's deck and leisurely smoked my last three cigarettes. Then I gave my Bic butane lighter to a woman there who smoked, went inside, pigged out on barbequed ribs, and sang up a storm with a batch of other people until late in the evening.

When I got to work the following morning, I hung up my coat, went to the break room and had a cup of coffee, then went out and plugged in.

For the next week or so, I would find myself reaching into my—now empty—shirt pocket, just out of habit. From time to time there would be a slight twinge of a craving, but as long as I didn't dwell on it, it went away in a matter of a moment or two.

Twenty-one days pretty easy days later, no more twinges, and it never occurred to me to want to smoke again. I was OFF the damned things!

Two lovely side-effects:   in a few weeks, my singing voice sounded much clearer, and singing was actually easier;   and I no longer had to spend fifteen minutes every morning sitting on the edge of my bed coughing up a quart of phlegm!

That was thirty-three years ago.

IT CAN BE DONE. It's not exactly a picnic, but it's not that bad either. And the benefits are well worth any temporary discomfort.

Hang in there!

Don Firth

P. S. Here's a good question to contemplate:   If I played an expensive and irreplaceable clarinet, would it make sense to blow hot, tar-filled smoke through it about thirty times a day?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 May 11 - 07:05 PM

Good on ya, gnu!

It can be done. I started smoking when I was seventeen and smoked like a chimney for thirty years. I tried to quit several times and found that Day 3 was the hard one to get past. That was the day my mind generally disconnected, by body turned into a robot, I bought a pack of cigarettes, and lit up. Along about the third marvelous drag, I suddenly became furious at myself, muttered a lot, and then kept on smoking.

I tried all sorts of over-the-counter drugstore products, chewed great wads of chewing gum until I endangered my teeth, and all that, but to little effect.

I read a very good book on quitting smoking (can't remember the title—something brilliant like, "How to Quit Smoking," I think— and I don't have it anymore—gave it to someone in need) that suggested several methods, but one data point that stuck with me was the comment that in hospitals and clinics, when trying to get addicts off hard drugs such as heroin, blood tests showed that after three weeks—twenty-one days—all traces of the drug were out of the person's body and essentially the body was clean, so any return to taking the drug was a matter of choice!

So if you could hold out for twenty-one days, you're off the stuff.

And although nicotine is powerfully addictive, it is not as powerful as heroin.

With that twenty-one day goal to shoot at, I started my own program, NOT following the usual advice ("The ONLY way it can be done is cold turkey!").

I tapered off.

But I have to admit, I had a lot of help. My wife does not smoke (never had) and second hand smoke really bothers her, so I decided not to smoke in our apartment. If I really felt like I needed a smoke, I went out on the porch or the balcony. And where I was working at the time (phone company operator—"One ringy-dingy, two ringy-dingies"), you couldn't smoke at the switchboard, so I could smoke only on breaks.

So I didn't smoke much at home, I smoked only on breaks at work, and my first cigarette in the morning was as I was driving to work, and unless I went out on the porch or we were at a party somewhere, my last cigarette for the day was when I was driving home from work.

I was actually down from about thirty butts a day to about six or seven.

One Sunday evening, John Dwyer hosted a Song Circle at his waterfront home west of Marysville, WA. About a dozen people gathered that afternoon for some serious loafing and to scarf down vast quantities of John's delicious barbequed ribs. Several of us were sitting out on his deck, enjoying the view of Puget Sound, the ssunshine, and the light breeze. Coincidentally, that happened to be my birthday.

John didn't smoke, and the rule was "No Smoking" in the house. If you wanted to smoke, go out on the deck. So as we sat there, a couple of people were smoking. I pulled out my pack to light up and noticed that I had only three left. I made a mental note to buy another pack from the machine when I got to work Monday morning.

Then, I said, "Hey, wait a minute!" My birthday. As auspicious an occasion as any. Since I had been planning on quitting, and since I was down to a half-dozen butts a day, I figured, "Do it, dammit! Just DO it!!"

So—I sat there that afternoon on John's deck and leisurely smoked my last three cigarettes. Then I gave my Bic butane lighter to a woman there who smoked, went inside, pigged out on barbequed ribs, and sang up a storm with a batch of other people until late in the evening.

When I got to work the following morning, I hung up my coat, went to the break room and had a cup of coffee, then went out and plugged in.

For the next week or so, I would find myself reaching into my—now empty—shirt pocket, just out of habit. From time to time there would be a slight twinge of a craving, but as long as I didn't dwell on it, it went away in a matter of a moment or two.

Twenty-one days pretty easy days later, no more twinges, and it never occurred to me to want to smoke again. I was OFF the damned things!

Two lovely side-effects:   in a few weeks, my singing voice sounded much clearer, and singing was actually easier;   and I no longer had to spend fifteen minutes every morning sitting on the edge of my bed coughing up a quart of phlegm!

That was thirty-three years ago.

IT CAN BE DONE. It's not exactly a picnic, but it's not that bad either. And the benefits are well worth any temporary discomfort.

Hang in there!

Don Firth

P. S. Here's a good question to contemplate:   If I played an expensive and irreplaceable clarinet, would it make sense to blow hot, tar-filled smoke through it about thirty times a day?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 May 11 - 07:07 PM

OOPS!! Sorry to repeat myself.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 May 11 - 07:32 PM

I suppose most of us gain weight when we stop smoking. I think I weighed 145 pounds when I quit smoking in 1994, and now I weigh 200. I guess that smokers have addictive personalities, and the craving for tobacco may be replaced by a craving for food. I don't think of myself as an addictive eater, but I'd sure like to lose about thirty pounds....


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 28 May 11 - 07:34 PM

Thanks Don. Thanks all. Like I said. It just might happen.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: kendall
Date: 28 May 11 - 07:49 PM

When I quit in 1996 I weighed 196 pounds; I now weigh 185. I've heard many people say they put on weight when they quit smoking but I have to wonder if that is necessary.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 May 11 - 08:51 PM

Nicotine suppresses the appetite, which is one reason North Korean leaders encourage smoking, even in children.

But if you know that you can checkmate it.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 May 11 - 01:12 PM

The title of this thread is a misnomer. gnu does not have to quit smoking -- gnu HAD DAMNED WELL BETTER quite smoking.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 May 11 - 01:58 PM

Quite so. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 29 May 11 - 04:35 PM

Yeah. Well. I'll pick da bones outtin a dat fish and see if I can getter down me troat eh wah?

I can't even call the cessation clinics until the morrow to book me a seat for the 16 hour course that spans a month. I think I gotta go on the course to get my $20 and I am also kinda waiting to see the start kit they send me.

In any case, I am quite resigned to kicking myself in the ass but that's MY job. It ain't for anyone else, let alone da loikes a some Idahoan what tinks we dunno our spuds down home in da Merrytimes a Canada eh wah?

Alaskans kinda frighten me tho.

In any case, like I said, I will stop posting to this thread for at least a while if and when I do go for it. Until then, I'll keep making excuses for being such a wimp.

Again, thanks all. Your concern for someone you don't even know is touching, to say the least. Yer a good bunch.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 29 May 11 - 04:53 PM

I know, people are friendly. On the internet. THE INTERNET!.

I joined because you lot were friendly. That's right, it's all your fault I'm still here. I hope you're happy.

But seriously, we're all here and we'll have some prize for you. I might send you a pack of jaffa cakes.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 May 11 - 09:22 PM

I'm thinking about visiting NB next year -- probably St. John's since I'll be coming by boat, if I come there.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 May 11 - 08:33 AM

Gnu, a very easy solution, find a good hypnotist who specialises in helping people stop. One treatment and you won't even think about it again, you want feel liker doing it and you'll be able to sit round a table with smokers and not feel tempted.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 30 May 11 - 02:17 PM

Nobody wants to be caught red-handed with a smoking gnu...


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: GUEST,Kendall
Date: 30 May 11 - 02:40 PM

Idaho to NB in a boat? Better check your charts, Mate; there are some stretches of real shallow water.:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 30 May 11 - 03:34 PM

Kendall... and a map... St. John's isn't in NB. Ya GOTTA take a plane or a boat.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 May 11 - 03:41 PM

A plane or a boat? We have the same logistics. Some folks fault Juneau, Alaska for that- but I ask a rhetorical question: Have you tried driving to Hawaii?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 May 11 - 03:44 PM

Yes, Ebbie, I have, but I flooded the engine.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 May 11 - 12:20 AM

oh


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: J-boy
Date: 31 May 11 - 02:17 AM

Time for my fifth and final smoke of the day. Goodnight and God bless.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: GUEST,You don' wanna know
Date: 31 May 11 - 11:17 PM

If it feels good ... do it. "Whether or not it feels good, do it- you're hooked, right?

HAS TO QUIT? - come on "Nobody has to quit. At the late stages, there's no point at all in thinking you have to quit.


Why pretend ... you are a beast of burdern? "Right. You're hooked on smokes and smoking is what you do."


Tobacco is an awful weed, "Can't argue with that."
I LIKE IT. "Right."
It satisfies no normal need. "But "ABnormal? Ah!"
I LIKE IT. "Right"
It makes you pale it makes you lean "Never had to diet when I was a smoker."
Its the worst darn stuff I've ever seen. "And the best. Who cares about the side effects? They don't last all that long."
I LIKE IT. "Right."


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jun 11 - 07:27 AM

They say that pot is safer than tobbacco/
Have you tried smoking 40 joints a day as a substitute for cigarettes?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 05:37 PM

Missed that Don... Hahahahahaa... ahhh... well, I think I missed it?

Soooo... I got a follow up call from the smokin police. Apparently, they are gonna keep callin... next call is a week from today. It's a lot of pressure. I need a smoke.

But, I have a plan. I have arranged to have a very painful operation on Tuesday and quit smokin then and I will be on painkillers and can tell everyone to go fuck themselves if they bug my and blame it on the pain/killers. How's that for committment eh?

Hmmmm... the surgeon has been on maternity leave since November and I am the FIRST slice and dice she will have when she returns... I hope she hasn't gotten "rusty"... gee... I need a smoke.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 10:50 PM

Gary, whatever it is, I hope you slip right on through quickly and painlessly. Write, OK?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 10:53 PM

Ja, ve haf your address und ve know vhere your muther is und vhere de controls for her iron lung are! You VILL quit smoking!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 06:05 PM

It was turbinate reduction surgery... snippy-snippy up the nostrils on the septum. There's no pain. She said it would be painful on accouta she cauterizes the wounds. There was pain right after I woke up in recovery but the dilaudid took that away along with my sense of reality. Had I know it would make me looooopy, dizzy and nauseated and make me sweat I would have refused it... I did ask the nurse if it would make me loopy and dizzy and she said "No. You'll be fine."

I asked the nurse in the post recovery how long I would be loopy and she said "About an hour so you should feel better anytime now." An hour later, I asked another nurse the same question and she said "At least 4 hours." She gave me gravol. At three hours I almost fell as I got in the chair to be wheeled to the taxi. When I almost fell getting into a chair at the front door the nurse decided to stay with me until I got in the taxi.

An hour ago, the ceiling stopped falling and I could read. I'm still spacey but there isn't much pain. I guess they tell you it's gonna hurt in case it does... and it may yet... who nose?

Yes it was a long way to go for a nose joke eh?

Call me Rudolf eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: michaelr
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 08:12 PM

I've been smoking cigarettes for 40 years, and I've been sick of `em for more than 10.

A month ago, I got myself one of those electronic cigarette kits. Haven't bought any tobacco since. When I get the craving, I have a puff on the thing and I'm good. (On average, three times a day.)

It's got liquid nicotine inside which is vaporized via a battery. You inhale vapor - not smoke, tar, or carbon particles. I think I'm finally gonna kick this thing.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 11:48 PM

Keep us updated michaelr!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 11:49 PM

Do you get bad dreams with that michaelr?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 11:55 PM

Gnu, don't sneeze. I had a septum thing with "windows" put in for sinus drainage thing once, and you don't wanna sneeze or your whole head turns inside out.

Seriously, heal well and quickly!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: michaelr
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 01:06 AM

No bad dreams. No down side yet!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 01:57 AM

michaelr... the more info you can supply about your experiences the better... maybe even a new thread unless there is one already incorporating info about this device???


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: michaelr
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 02:21 PM

What can I say? It supplies pure nicotine in vapor form, so it services the addiction. I don't know if the craving will go away, but at least I don't inhale all that other crud. I haven't noticed any other effects.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 02:32 PM

I used nicotine chewing gum to help me quit, and normally I absolutely LOATHE gum.
It worked though, been stpped for over 20 years


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 03:14 PM

The gum gave me my first vocal cord polyp in less than two weeks.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: michaelr
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 03:30 PM

Here is the website for the product I'm using. Don't be fooled by the photo - there is NO smoke, and very little vapor.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 03:54 PM

Hmmm... John... perhaps the polyp was there and the gums simply "made me aware" it was there? Could be.

As for the gadget, "high blood pressure" might be a problem. Must read up on the patch in regard to that.

Anyway, I have cut way down and tomorrow even more. Stanley Cup final tonight and I grabbed some beer today so no guarantees once the game starts.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smoking
From: Beer
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 07:34 PM

I'm following this thread G. So you hang in there. Boston in 7
Ah!, maybe the Canucks in 8
ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 10:02 PM

It ain't over until the fat puck sings.

Although, it seems to me that Boston is digging harder in the corners and it's paying off... forcing Vancouver to dump out to get out of trouble. And Vancouver is dumping it into the corners too much instead of keeping control of it to the net. I really don't see any hope for the Canucks unless they change their strategy... like my old man used to say... PUT DAT PUCK ON DAT NET!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jul 11 - 01:56 PM

I have received word on a smoking cessation course. Two hours per week for 6 weeks starting in 9 days.

I can't wait for the instructor to ask, for the first time, "Any questions." I'm gonna say, "Yeah... when do we get a smoke break?" I wonder if they've heard that one before?

Anybody got any other good questions to ask?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smoking
From: Beer
Date: 17 Jul 11 - 02:53 PM

If I quit smoking and still smoke Pot, will the craving for cigarettes go away?

Or lets say the question goes like this. " I have not smoked cigarettes in nearly 10 years, if I smoke a joint, will I be hooked to cigarettes again"?

ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: ranger1
Date: 17 Jul 11 - 04:33 PM

Gnu, if you quit, maybe I can get J-boy to quit, too. Worth a try, anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jul 11 - 07:00 PM

Beer... not bad but it's a second session question, unless someone brings some pot to the first smoke break.

J-boy had better quit. The Pats need a decent QB. >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 11 - 09:42 PM

Ask if it's okay to chew or dip snoose as long as you don't smoke.

Spoken introduction:
Nicholas! Albert! Look, I don't know where they are, but I'd like you to meet
my two pals, my buddies, my two amigos. I'll tell you all about them - well...
------------------------------
I never gargled, I never gambled, I never smoked at all.
Until I met my two good amigos, Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.
Strange as it seems, I met in my dreams, Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.
Here's what they said to me, 'Use your head, just see your life is very, very dull"
Well, I never gargled, I never gambled, I never smoked at all.
Until I met my two good amigos, Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.
So I said to Nick, 'Nick tell me quick, what should a fellow do?'
He said to me, 'Boy, easy to see boy, you should try a cigarette or two.'
Well, I never gargled, I never gambled, I never smoked at all.
Until I met my two good amigos, Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.
So I lit a fag, and I took a drag, then to my great surprise,
I started to gasp, and coughed like a rasp,
And everything spun round before my eyes.
Well, I never gargled, I never gambled, I never smoked at all.
Until I met my two good amigos, Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.
So I said to Al, 'Al, be a pal, what do you really think?'
He said to me, 'Boy, easy to see boy, smoking's kid's stuff, pour yourself a drink.'
Well, I never gargled, I never gambled, I never smoked at all.
Until I met my two good amigos, Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.
So quick as a wink, I took a drink, swigged a glassful down.
First it seemed to hit me, then it turned around and bit me,
And everything went all spinning round.
Well, I never gargled, I never gambled, I never smoked at all.
Until I met my two good amigos, Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.
Well, here is the joke, when I awoke, it wasn't finished yet,
I noticed first a terrible thirst
And then a craving for a cigarette.
Well, I never gargled, I never gambled, I never smoked at all.
Until I met my two good amigos, Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.
Well, take my advice, this smoking is nice and the drinking is really lush.
As you can see, there's no change in me,
I'm still as pure as the driven slush.
Well, I never gargled, I never gambled, I never smoked at all.
Until I met my two good amigos, Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.
Nick Teen and Al K. Hall.


                                  --Rolf Harris


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 18 Jul 11 - 01:32 AM

I chain smoked but have been off the weed for nearly 35 years. If I didn't quit I doubt if I would still be here. It got so that coughing was my main exercise! Good luck gnu!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jul 11 - 08:28 AM

Where is all the money I was suppose to save?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Jul 11 - 08:37 AM

And so it goes!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Beer
Date: 18 Jul 11 - 08:58 AM

8:28 Guest was me Beer.
Lost my cookie . Sorry about that.
ad.


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Subject: Lyr Add: The 200-YEAR-OLD ALCOHOLIC (Clancy)
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 11 - 10:36 AM

THE TWO-HUNDRED YEAR OLD ALCOHOLIC

When I was eighty I started smoking
Took to drinking at eighty-five
At ninety I started courting
Thank God that I was alive
Ninety-five saw me in business
Determined to rake in a pile
At a hundred I made my first million
And I started living in style

Chorus:
Oh, it's never too late to start living
To get out and have some fun
The sun will be just as shiny in the morning
As the first day the world begun

Well I moved to an uptown penthouse
Used fifties to light my cigars
Developed a taste for fine champagne
Drove fast I-talian cars
But the doctor he give me a warning
And a lecture on right and wrong
If I didn't give up my sinful ways
I couldn't live very long

But I said to him...

Now I'm a two-hundred year old alcoholic
And the nicotine's caught up on me
But worst of all in this morning's mail
Got a suit for paternity
But I'm not really unhappy
'Cause maybe I'll have me a son
And his morning's will be just as shiny
As the first day the world begun.


               -Words and music by Liam Clancy


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: frogprince
Date: 18 Jul 11 - 12:23 PM

"Ask if it's okay to chew or dip snoose as long as you don't smoke."

Forgive me this, but I had a flashback. This goes back to an Ann Landers column, way, way back, I think before Eppie Whatwasername wrote the column for decades. The letter was from the concerned parents of a young man, regarding his choice of girlfriend and the relationship. The girl, "Julie", was well along in pregnancy, and his parents wanted them to get married, but the couple said they were "waiting to see if the baby was his". The kicker came at the end of the letter: "P.S., Julie doesn't drink or smoke".

No, it isn't an urban legend; I read it in the column, in the Austin (Minnesota) Daily Herald.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 11 - 06:37 PM

A friend of mine, a good member of the LDS Church, was asked why he ordered such wonderful (and large) desserts. His response was, "When you're Mormon you can't smoke and you can't drink. That leaves only two other things, and eating dessert you can do in public."


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 18 Jul 11 - 06:56 PM

Rap.... yer buddy is a cool dude. Of course, that begs a joke he wouldn't appreciate... in public. >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Maryrrf
Date: 18 Jul 11 - 10:45 PM

You definitely can do it Gnu. Many have (I did). It was hard but worth it. Just focus on getting through it one day at a time.   Keep a supply of apples, carrots, celery, etc. the kind of things that have crunch but few calories and maybe that will help with the weight gain, which is a possibility when you quit smoking, but it doesn't have to happen.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 08:51 AM

Smoking cigarettes is a completely daft way to get your nicotine. Kills you, and pollutes the place with fag ends, which can last for years.

Smoking a pipe is a lot better, and can make you look reliable and honest. But I'm always puzzled by why hardened nicotine addicts seem to ignore the much hallowed option of taking snuff. No hassles about non-smoking areas or having to go outside in a pub.

That's leaving aside the simplest option which is of course just to give up entirely. I do that because while I think for most people it in in fact a simple option, clearly for many people it isn't, presumably because their brains or bodies are wired in some different way.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 09:45 AM

Every time you light up, have a friend yell "GOD! HE'S ON FIRE!" and dump a bucket of water on you.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 09:54 AM

I suppose you'd be the first to volunteer?


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: frogprince
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 12:19 PM

"eating dessert you can do in public."
"You definitely can do it Gnu. Many have (I did). It was hard but worth it."
Nuts; I was thinkin' for a minute there that I could make that second quote look like a reference to what the guy indicated that you couldn't do in public.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Crowhugger
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 02:21 PM

Rapparee that's a great plan!

So how's it going these days, Gnu? Did you take that cessation course mentioned last month?

I admire your self control being able to cut down. Cutting down didn't work for me and my 2 packs a day addiction. In 2003 I made the decision to quit with the help of the patch. Main motivation: I finally chose to honour my husband's fear of a fire. Bonus motivation: We had a trip planned that included an 8 hour flight (=11 hours unable to smoke and I didn't want to be miserable for 9 or 10 of those hours), with an overnight non-smoking train ride and a lengthy bus ride into the mix. And I cannot abide nicotine gum!

Basically smoking became more guilt & nuisance than pleasure. Embarrassing truth be told though, if smoking became socially acceptable again I'm not sure I would remain a non-smoker. I think I would, out of respect for my husband and to save my lung capacity for singing. But there is something awfully powerful about tobacco. Cruel stuff. Maybe it's a good thing I couldn't cut down; if I could have I might still be smoking a few, outside the house, even up to half a pack per day just to enjoy it. Pathetic, I know!

Despite the occasional urges, it sure felt good when I hit the one-year mark tobacco-free. My blood pressure was borderline before I quit but I didn't need any medication to balance side effects of the patch.

The biggest tricks to minimize my suffering were all in my head:
1. distraction during an urge to smoke (a bucket of water dumped over me would have certainly been that, but I opted for drier ways)
2. trust that the urge would pass--these are rare now, but still do happen occasionally.

Keep us posted!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 03:15 PM

Whatcha wanta quit smokin' for, gnu? I been smokin' steady since the year 1925, I love it, and it ain't done me no harm. Smokin' makes you look suave and debonair, and that can help attract swanky dames. It also gives you somethin' to do with yer hands while you talk. You can break the ice by lightin' one up for her. Do I gotta tell you everything?

Watch a few old Bogart movies fer chrissake, notice how important a good smoke is to social interaction, and get with it.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 06:26 PM

Yeah, and it also pinpoints yer location at night, letting them get a shot at ya.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 01:06 AM

That is true, Rap. The thing is, there are times when you wanna smoke and times when you don't. You gotta judge each situation on its own requirements. I have fooled snipers more than once by puttin' a lit cigarette in the crack of a fence or the knothole of a tree, and stakin' out the scene from about 10 or 20 feet off to one side. They blast hell out of the cigarette and then I blast hell out of them. Works like a charm. You can use a hat that way too.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 10:13 AM

Unless they wait and see you lightin' up, and the end of the cig has to keep moving a little bit. Then blammo! brains in the drains.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 04:02 PM

Of course when you're a chimp you've got two extra hands to keep busy.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 04:10 PM

My uncle's buddy, a Lewey, got shot that way from the side by a sniper. Teeth all over the place. The lads were very concerned. BUT, all he had was a hole in both cheeks and cuts in the mouth... dentures... lucky man.

Doubt if he gave up smoking. Probably needed a smoke after that!


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: gnu
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 04:15 PM

Today (day two of 6 weekly two hour sessions) we had a pharmacist as a guest speaker. I was taken aback to hear that if you want to try the nicotene replacement products and, say, smoke two packs a day you should put on TWO patches to start. Or, you could put on one patch and use the gum, lozenges or inhaler to supplement one patch per day.

Glad I am taking the course because I am learning things I did not know.

I just may do this thing and almost started before today but now I am convinced I should finish the course first. Better armed, better able.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Janie
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 11:29 PM

Pullin' fer ya', gnu. If you make it, maybe I can too.


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Subject: RE: BS: gnu has to quit smokin
From: Beer
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 11:40 PM

I'm sure one of your worries is that you love "BUD" and smoke go together. RIGHT!!!! Well it was also an excuse for me as well. But you know.... I am just finishing a 6 pack of BUD and have been off the smoke for 10 years and i still can enjoy "me bud". So have no fear G. You can do it.
ad.
Your BUD.


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