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Richard from Liverpool 10 Nov 12 - 03:54 PM
Richard from Liverpool 06 Dec 12 - 01:00 PM
Richard from Liverpool 24 Dec 12 - 04:09 PM
GUEST,Fred McCormick 25 Dec 12 - 07:24 AM
Richard from Liverpool 03 Jan 13 - 07:29 PM
GUEST 04 Jan 13 - 06:36 AM
GUEST,Yvonne 04 Jan 13 - 11:39 AM
Richard from Liverpool 05 Jan 13 - 02:52 PM
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Subject: RE: A Liverpool Folk Song a Week
From: Richard from Liverpool
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 03:54 PM

Surely I've run out of Liverpool songs, you ask? No! There's still a barrel to be well and truly scraped. These were the October 2012 scrapings:

Week 56: Ranzo
Week 57: The Battle of the Boiling Water
Week 58: Buckets of the Mersey


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Subject: RE: A Liverpool Folk Song a Week
From: Richard from Liverpool
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 01:00 PM

3 more for the month of November:

Week 59: My Johnny Has Gone For a Soldier
Week 60: The Cruise of the Calabar
Week 61: O Scottie Road


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Subject: RE: A Liverpool Folk Song a Week
From: Richard from Liverpool
Date: 24 Dec 12 - 04:09 PM

Two seasonally appropriate songs for the month of December:

Week 62: The World Was In Darkness
Week 63: Birkenhead Wassail Song

Happy Christmas, and see you next year!


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Subject: RE: A Liverpool Folk Song a Week
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 25 Dec 12 - 07:24 AM

Now there's a thing. I've lived on the Wirral for most of my life and have long taken an interest in the history and folklore of the place. It's not an overly explored area, but there's several books which contain commentaries on pace egging and souling and such, and I've had a description of a May Queen ceremony from my mother, who used to live in Birkenhead. But this is the first I've heard of a Birkenhead Wassail Song!

Richard. Do you have any idea whereabouts in Birkenhead the song was collected? Also, whether Mrs Haigh and Miss Kelk were actually from Birkenhead, or had they moved there from some other part of the country and brought the song with them?


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Subject: RE: A Liverpool Folk Song a Week
From: Richard from Liverpool
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 07:29 PM

Hiya Fred

Was good to see you in The Belvedere earlier today! Matthew Edwards (who it was also good to see in The Belvedere earlier today!) has passed on what he has found out about the ladies the song was collected from, and I've updated the post on the blog.

http://aliverpoolfolksongaweek.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/63-birkenhead-wassail-song.html


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Subject: RE: A Liverpool Folk Song a Week
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 06:36 AM

Hi Richard and Matthew. Yeahh. Good session.

The bit below should have been added to the blog, but as I'm having signing in problems, this is probably the next best place. I've got Green Blade interested in learning the song by the way.

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Thanks Matthew. As you say there's precious little chance of finding out where it originated. We have no tradition of wassailing on the Wirrral that I ever came across. In fact there's damn all in the way of apple trees in this part of the world.

Therefore, I presumed at first that the two ladies must have moved here from some other part of the country and brought it with them.

Evidently not, although how it came into the hands of "child waits" is a bit of a mystery.

However, and bear in mind that I'm no expert on wassailing, but there are other apple treeless parts of the country where wassailing songs have been collected. EG South Yorkshire. There, I suspect the songs would have formed part of house visiting customs.

Could it be that Birkenhead saw an influx of people from such a place, and did they bring their wassailing/house visiting custom with them? If so it must have happened very early on in the town's history. In fact, Birkenhead, as an industrial town instead of a collection of hamlets, only dates from 1815 and industrial development would have been later still. As the sisters didn't hear it until about 1880/1890, that doesn't leave much time for the custom to have arrived, become established and then presumably to have passed from being an adult custom to one performed by children.

BTW., I haven't had much chance to get my head round the text yet. But am I hearing interesting parallels with the Cheshire Souling Song?
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Subject: RE: A Liverpool Folk Song a Week
From: GUEST,Yvonne
Date: 04 Jan 13 - 11:39 AM

Was good to hear you sing it on Thursday, Richard. Sorry I didn't get chance to have a word but have been listening to a lot of your songs. I have really enjoyed them. Hope to see you again at The Belvedere.

Yvonne


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Subject: RE: A Liverpool Folk Song a Week
From: Richard from Liverpool
Date: 05 Jan 13 - 02:52 PM

I'm heading back down south again tomorrow, so sadly won't be at the Belvedere or any other sessions for a couple of months. But looking forward to my next return home.


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