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BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2

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Subject: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 06:28 PM

It's time to start this thread as I need to email friends not on Facebook and who don't regularly check Mudcat on where to find updates while Tom and I are in Boston.

Tonight I trim Tom's beard, cut it way back under his chin and on his neck and so he can shave there (for the first time in YEARS). This time the incision will be through his neck rather than accessing the area via his throat. We head to Boston by train early on Wednesday -- first to Mass Eye & Ear for a CT scan, then up to 1 Bowdoin Square to see Dr. Zeitels, then to Beacon House, affiliated with Mass General, where we'll be staying for a week.

Thursday morning (Dec. 2) Tom will have surgery at Mass General -- he'll be awake during this surgery (though probably on some serious relaxation drugs) while Dr. Z installs a Gore-Tex flap and then tunes it ("like a guitar string"). Tom has to be awake so he can respond -- we don't want him sounding like Wayne Newton! And, since it's Gore-Tex and weatherproof, that means Tom will be able to sing in the rain, right?

The schlepping is complicated by the fact that I sprained my right knee last Sunday at work. Spent most of Monday at Lee Urgent Care. Woke up Tuesday with an annoying side effect of the med. Spent most of Tuesday sorting that out. A couple nights of poor sleeping -- have to sleep on my back (not my normal position), almost sitting up and with two pillows propping my knee. Wednesday was better and Wednesday night I actually was able to sleep on my side -- except then I hobbled around all Thanksgiving. Sigh. Haven't yet worked out the right combo of meds so I can get to sleep, stay asleep, and not wake up way too early. I was back to work today, but I'm not looking forward to all the walking I'll have to do in Boston despite knee brace and cane. Wednesday I'll have to carry our gear for the week, since Tom can't. Beacon House is steeply up Beacon Hill -- uphill from the hospital, Whole Foods, restaurants, etcet. There's a shuttle between Beacon House and the hospital, but at limited times.

Not sure if there's a computer at Beacon House from which I can update this thread. If there isn't, I'll call Jeri or Sinsull and have them update things.

Tom will spend Thursday night in the hospital. Then for 48 hours he can't utter a sound. For the next 2-3 weeks, he can only speak as loud as for someone less than an arm's length away to hear. And he'll be back on a low acid reflux diet -- no caffeine, no alcohol, no carbonation, no citrus, no tomatoes, no onions & peppers...no nothin'. The accommodations are kitchenette, so at least I can lay in provisions from Whole Foods -- rotisserie chicken, frozen meat loaf & mashed potatoes, mac & cheese, etc. We have to stick close to the hospital for 4-6 days in case of any bleeding or problems. Sutures should come out about 6 days after surgery.

I'm hoping we can come home the following Wednesday (Dec. 8th) if not before. I'm sure I'll run out of paid time off. Don't know yet if Tom will need further procedures or voice therapy or what. But who knows, maybe he'll have a voice by Christmas...

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 06:40 PM

Fingers crossed here, Linn and Tom. May the surgery go well, the healing be swift and the outcome WONDERFUL.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: jacqui.c
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:17 PM

Here's hoping for the best possible outcome.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: gnu
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:49 PM

Mw too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: gnu
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:50 PM

You kow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: GUEST,Bob Frost
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:52 PM

Lots of White Light on both of you. Safe trip and a successful procedure!


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: kendall
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 08:33 PM

I am watching you old buddy, one day it will be my turn. The best of luck to you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 09:04 PM

Love, Light, and Healing Energy sent to you, both.

Linn, I have been having to bring in all of our groceries since Rog broke his heel. I have a neat pull cart, which folds almost flat, in which I load them from the car and pull it behind me to the house. I'm sure you know what I mean as I learned about them when I lived back there. Probably too late for you to find one, but it might be helpful if you can at some point. Sorry to hear about your knee!

love and hugs,

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Nancy King
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 09:12 PM

Hope all goes well! Keeping you both in my thoughts...


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 11:32 PM

Don't know what I can say to you two at this point except what so many others around here are feeling as well. If there is anything at all to the power of good thoughts (and I know there is) than you go into this with a powerful force behind you. I wish you all the best.......You have all the "good thought wattage" my pissant transmitter can produce. I'm expecting nothing but the best outcome.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: ragdall
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 11:50 PM

Sending good thoughts to both of you for a successful procedure and timely recovery for Tom and thorough mending for your knee, Linn.

rags


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 01:10 AM

me too

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 07:37 AM

Glad I have an appointment with my knee doc this morning ("before work" -- should I be able to get there). I think I re-sprained the knee last night. After posting this, etc. I went to stand up from the chair and must have moved just slightly wrong. More pain than last week. More difficulty walking. Tom will have to drive me as I know I can't safely drive.

What a pain! (Literally and figuratively.)

Unless the doctor can work some kind of magic, I don't see how I can possibly go to Boston with Tom.

Right now I have to call my boss and disturb his day off.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 08:57 AM

Linn-

The knee sounds frustrating, to say the least. I sure wish I lived closer so I could be of some direct help.

Best of luck for you both!

Charley Noble and JudyB


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: kendall
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 11:10 AM

Linn if I could swap ailments with you, I would do it in a heart beat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: gnu
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 02:29 PM

SOP! Linn... Hope yer doin okay.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 05:38 PM

You might be able to get more rest in Boston, if you don't walk around a lot. Elevators, not stairs, no wood stove, cooking not needed, and it will likely feel better by the time you come home. Let me know what I can do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 05:49 PM

Linn, can you hire or borrow a mobility scooter to use while you knee is mending?

Best wishes and speedy recovery to you both.

Love Tam


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 06:13 PM

I will be thinking of you on Thursday, Tom. The beginning of the end, I think.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 06:18 PM

I just tried to call and wish you both well but either Magic Jack or your phone refused to cooperate. Maybe tomorrow night.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: ranger1
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 06:54 PM

Good thoughts from me and J-boy. I have the next two days off, if you need anything, please don't hesitate to call. You're not that far away.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 05:47 AM

Slept well last night -- knee doc actually gave me meds that work, at least for the night.

Yeah, I'll prolly get more walking rest in Boston then I would at work or home -- except for Wednesday and Thursday. Last time in Boston, BEFORE the sprain, when we just had to get from North Station to Dr. Z's and back, I was in agony by the time I got home. Knee doc said (a week later) that I'd "over done it". The pain then was after I got home, not while walking.

Right now I'm in the worst pain I've ever been in -- while moving or at rest. Sitting actually seems to be best,

The pain is worse than when I broke my arm (well, then it was initial shock and then good drugs; didn't get my brain back for over a month) and worse than the kidney stone I had over 20 years ago. And it's with each step.

And Thursday night I'll have to get back to Beacon House alone, as Tom will be spending the night at Mass General.

Builds character...(but I thought I was enough of a character already!).

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 06:01 AM

I hope you get some corticosteroids or NSAIDs for your knee.
Stress, change of season, overdoing it...things always feel worse when we feel close to panic.

I bet a trillion dollars that Tom can yell a blue streak by summer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 10:05 AM

Cortisone shot wore off in two weeks. Lined up for the 3 consecutive synovial fluid supplementation injections (not Synvisc; different brand) to hold off knee replacement until a) life simmers down a bit and b) maybe I can afford to take 6 weeks off from work for the rehab.

Aspirin works better than most meds for me. And I've finally got a pain med that works for night time. Capsaicin cream and Aspercreme also help. For the sprain, I'm still icing.

The thing is, at best, I'm not only going to be "overdoing it" by necessity for the next couple days, but it will also be painful, no matter what I do to make it better. I'll cope. We're travelling very light because we have to schlep. After Friday, I won't have to spend much time walking or on my feet -- but I need to keep moving so I don't seize up. Totally exercise-free isn't a good idea, either.

It would be nice if the timing were different on this, but it's not, so I'll do what I've gotta do and it'll be okay.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 02:00 PM

Spoke with Tom last night. He is looking forward to getting this over with and hoping for lots of good drugs to help him through the awake surgery.
Here's to steady hands and a voice at Christmas.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Slag
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 03:21 PM

My best to you both. What a struggle! Prayers all around.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 03:33 PM

Received training on how to properly operate cat bowls, where the good wood is, and funny door tricks.

I asked Tom if Helium would affect Goretex vocal chords the same way it affects the biological ones. Tom didn't know. Now that I've thought about it, I'd have to say he'd still sound like a chipmunk, because Helium doesn't affect the chords at all, but the way sound vibrations travel through Helium vs. air. I don't think it's a great idea to experiment though. Air, including oxygen, is important.

Good journey!


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 03:46 PM

My best to you both. May Tom have a successful surgery, and a full and complete recovery. But you should see if you can get some outside help during that period. Being a care giver is very stressful, the more so if you have your own limitations...so think of yourself, too.

God Bless you both. Have terrific holidays, whichever they may be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: maeve
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 09:17 PM

Thanks for lending a hand again, Jeri.
Love to Tom and Linn.

Maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 07:44 AM

Tom, if I could give you one gift it would be the ability to shout MERRY CHRISTMAS.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 09:22 AM

What Kendall said. Everything crossed for the best possible result.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: GUEST, Bat Goddess in Boston
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 04:55 PM

Okay! We're here at Beacon House. Tom's just back from exploring the Beacon Hill neighborhood -- their are several small grocery stores, a liquor and "fine foods" store and a pizza place that has non-tomato-based sauces so Tom can eat.

Got an early train because we needed to be at Mass Eye & Ear for a CT scan at 9. My knee behaved much better than I'd anticipated. I'm slow, but wasn't in any real discomfort. The Salvation Army bell ringer at North Station, who had a wonderful voice, was singing Christmas songs -- "Rudolf" and others. Got a Partners shuttle without too much of a wait and got to ME&EI early, got the scan done early, and had them call a cab to get us to Dr. Z's. Got there early, too, but, even though Sonny got us into an exam room early, didn't see Dr. Z until the scheduled time when he came in when he came in with the other doctor who was gearing up for Kendall's scoping requirements. Straightened them out -- this is Tom Hall, not Kendall Morse. Tom's from NH, Kendall's from Maine -- there's a difference.

Anywho, Tom had to run through another battery of vocal screenings, which gave us something to do until the lidocaine from the scoping wore off.

So we ate lunch again across from Bowdoin Square at Gourmet Cafe, that great little Italian hole-in-the-wall with the freshest sub rolls in the world.

Then got a cab to Beacon House -- only a few blocks, but straight up hill.

Tom's surgery is scheduled for 3 pm tomorrow, but he has to be there at noon and it could take place earlier. He'll be spending tomorrow night at Mass General and he may not be subject to the speaking restrictions that he's been expecting.

Dr. Zeitels hadn't heard that Gore-Tex is used for some guitar strings, but he said he wasn't surprised.

We'll take the shuttle down to the hospital and back for supper in about an hour.

Thanks for all your good wishes, etc.!

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 05:01 PM

Be thinking of you both tomorrow.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 05:06 PM

I'm glad your knee is cooperating. Will go staff the cats tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: GUEST,Steve Smith
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 06:01 PM

Linn,

I have a spare laptop I can bring you if you need it - let me know - I'll bring it to you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: gnu
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 06:16 PM

Good to hear about the knee. That was worrisome given the "venue". Hope it holds up. Looking for more good news... best to both of youse.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: SussexCarole
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 06:27 PM

Just caught up with this news....All our best to you both

Hugs   Carole & Andrew x


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: GUEST, Bat Goddess in Boston
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 06:57 PM

Houston, we have a problem...

Turns out they've discontinued the morning and evening shuttles to and from Mass General. Which basically means we have to pay for cabs. The streets up to Beacon House are seriously steep -- neither of our knees can hack it.

Ach. Nothing ever goes smoothly.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: GUEST,Rombo
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 09:37 PM

Thoughts and prayers are with you bothere there in Boston~!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Crowhugger
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 09:53 PM

All best wishes for a wonderful result!


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 02:38 AM

Did they say why they discontinued the shuttles? Really sux.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: mouldy
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 02:46 AM

Oh I really hope this all goes well, as it's 2nd December here!
I hope you have the shuttle problem sorted.

Thinking of you both.
Andrea x


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: GUEST, Bat Goddess in Boston
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 07:21 AM

Well, my knee behaved beautifully all day -- decided to hurt all night. Pain med again did not work. Took a benedryl to sleep, but that didn't work as well as it usually does. Funny thing, just about quarter of five, the knee decided to stop hurting. Just like it decided to START at 9 pm. Go figure.

Tom is curmudging. I've been awake since 4:00 or earlier. Watched out the window at shuttle time, to verify, and it did not appear. Told Tom to call MGH -- they should send a shuttle to collect him for surgery (or any other appointment).

Of course, the other reason he's curmudging is no coffee, no food, and his surgery isn't until this afternoon. Oh, did I say no coffee? And then there's the no coffee thing. (How do you people get so dependent on brown stuff in cups?)

Steve, thanks for the offer, but we're travelling extremely light. A laptop would be waaaaay over our load limit. Even with the bare necessities, it was REALLY nice to get our gear into the room yesterday afternoon after schlepping all over hell 'n gone.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: kendall
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 07:52 AM

Tom, do you have any details on exactly what he is going to plant in your throat? And how?


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 07:56 AM

Came to this thread late but know that I'm sending light and love and caffeinated thoughts you-wards today. Beacon Hill is actually lovely - I hope you get a chance to look around some!


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Charley Noble
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 08:43 AM

Linn and Tom-

We are wrapping up your caffeinated Christmas recovery package as this message is posted. Hope you have some way of grinding up coffee beans. Otherwise you'll have to use your teeth.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 09:10 AM

He can't have coffee, Charlie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: maeve
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 09:18 AM

From Linn's post, upthread:
"And he'll be back on a low acid reflux diet -- no caffeine, no alcohol, no carbonation, no citrus, no tomatoes, no onions & peppers...no nothin'"


I think a bundle of fifties would be acceptable though, Charlie...

I'll get me barn coat.

Maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: kendall
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 09:57 AM

No coffee? is that what I have to look forward to? Is this such a good idea? Got to think this over.

"And enterprises of great pith and moment become sicklied over with the pale cast of thought and lose the name of action." W.S. of course)


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Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon: Voice Restoration, Part 2
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 10:22 AM

W.S. really?   Willie Scarpalino said that? No shit? Doesn't sound like him...........

Spaw


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